ITT: We rant about horrible Gen 6 models/animations

>>28257820
We've don't that enough this week.


they really aren't that good though

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>>28257820
Capoiera bitch

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How it should always look

ITS NOT UNUSUAL

>>28257820
CAP

>>28257840
OI

>>28257843
ERA

>>28257820
That's actual kapoera, you know.

>>28257820
>Basic movement of capoeira
>Horrible

The 3D models have duller colors. Why?

But that's a great model.
Here let me summarize the entire thread for you
>Someone whining about Archeops, even though it gives it more personality
>90% of the thread will be winged flying types, followed by some retard saying "WHY DIDNT THEY USE AMIE MODELS???"

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>>28257820

>>28257866
>>28257859
you're both right, but I think op meant he should be spinning on his head. I'd prefer it as well

>>28257874
They went with a pastel color scheme in XY to mimic the older artwork.

>>28257840
HIT

>>28257857
MON

>>28257866
TOP

>>28257820
>he never played Tekken
>He never saw Wonderlust
>he never been to south america

>>28257889
>Undoing the things they've been doing for the last 10

Ok

>>28257886
But it does spin on its head.

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>>28257886
But he still does spin on his head, just not constantly like a retard.

>>28257859
>>28257866
If he jumped on his head when attacking it would be so much better

This ignores what really made Hitmontop Hitmontop

>>28257898
>based on a spinning top
>standing on its feet

>>28257916
Exactly, why can't it do it at all times

Same with amie versions of the sky models

I really hate capoiera. It looks so stupid.

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>Alpha Sapphire: It runs better than it flies. It takes off into the sky by running at a speed of 25 mph.
>Omega Ruby:They are intelligent and will cooperate to catch prey. From the ground, they use a running start to take flight.
>"It runs better than it flies"
>"they use a running start to take flight."
>literally no reason for it to be flying all the time.
>It would be much better off staying in the ground and only flying for certain attacks.
>Realistically it loses advantages for staying in the air all the time.
>It's animation has it flying all the time anyway.

Fuck sky battles.

>>28257924
He does retard

>>28257928
>based on a spinning top
>why even give it legs and arms if it just spins 24/7

>>28257923
Hey, that animation looks fine. Why is Op's shity short?

>>28257945
Also it looks like a fat fuck now

>>28257929
Because there's no point for it to always be on its head?

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>>28257923
>Hitmontop doesn't spin forever
>Pokemon world isn't a dream
>Pokemon world is real

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The model is fine, but I wish they'd kept him with his arms crossed.

>>28257886
I do too, personally. But let's be real here; Hitmontop has absolutely no reason to keep spinning on his head if he's not attacking.

>>28257924
But... he did. >>28257923

>>28257957
Those are ALL the attack animations

>>28257913
That's literally the reason GF gave for it anon, don't be dumb.
>>28257945
He was already flying constantly in his B/W sprite. The XY model just made it obvious that he's supposed to be bad at flying, like the dex states.

>>28257957
Because op's is just the idle animation.

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Floatzel using special attacks is... strange

>>28257924

Maybe you should actually play the games/look at all the animations before complaining about them.

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>>28257977
Ba du du ba du du BAW BAAAAAAW

>Has arms and legs
>Nothing to indicate it's always spinning
>People bitch it's ruined because it only spins to attack

It wouldn't even make sense if it perpetually spun, they'd be no way for it to go from idle to attacking without fucked up physics

>>28257945
Shut the fuck up, it's your fault for taking a joke Pokemon seriously. It belongs in the sky to show it struggles in the air. Eat my dick, you're wrong.

Pokemon Colosseum/XD Hitmontop doesn't spin forever though he's just perfectly balanced upside down on his head and only spins to attack. This should've been his model.
He only stands on his feet when he dies

>>28258000
>play games before complaining

That's the dumbest shit I ever heard

>>28257966
You know if I say that for flying models I'm being nitpicky though

it's been on its fucking head for almost 20 years why break the streak

Any Pokemon that glides in place. It looks really fucking stupid and doesnt make any sense. At least have them flap around like Staraptor.

>>28257966
Same reason literally every flying type shouldn't be flying constantly

>>28258018
To annoy you. Is it working?

>>28258015
>Only stand on his feet when he died

Then... Why have other appendages if you. Literally use them once, and it's when you die. His arms and legs may as well be pool noodles then, no need for actual hands and feet.

>>28257929

Because it doesn't do that all the time? It was only depicted on its head at all times in past games because the sprites were static or had minimal animation.

https://youtu.be/kkLEIS0SFUs?t=196

>mfw it's 2016 and we still don't got Pokemon actually hitting each other like Battle Revolution

>>28258038
"That's just the trouble with all you morons. You never want to discuss anything. That's the way you can always tell a moron. They never want to discuss anything intelligent"

-Salinger

>>28258012
Lol, stay mad faggot

>>28258046
He attacks with his hands and feet when he spins

>>28258048
Stadium 2 and Gale of Darkness and PBR would disagree

>>28258048
Dex even talks about it walking and shit

Idk why people hate it standing, it both matches the style of fighting it's based off and makes it seem like hes throwing himself at the opponent the same way you'd spin a top

>>28258053

Having to watch Pokemon running up to each other every turn to attack was a waste time and got annoying after a while.

>>28258109
>waaaa
Turn off battle animations like I know you already do you autistic faggot

>>28258055
"Pokemon makes for intelligent discussion"

-Idiot

>>28257916
When it attacks

>>28257945
>was already flying in Gen V
>"F-fuck Gen VI guys amiriteamirite? d-do I fit in yet?"

>>28257961

The models make EVERYTHING look shorter and fatter than it's supposed to be.

>>28258122
>Being this retarded

>>28258071

None of those games were made by GF. I'm pretty sure GF knows how their characters move and behave more than other developers.

>>28258122

PBR didn't have that option retard.

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There are only two 3d models I genuinely hate, and there of my favorite gen 1 pokemon (probably the only two I like from gen 1, desu)

Raichu and Vileplume.

They both just look too fucking fat in them. Alolan Raichu has replaced my love for the original with a better design (IMO) and a not chubby, hunched over look, so.. Yea, awesome.

>>28257978
Thank-you for being the one other person who noticed Watchog's arms

>>28258175
I mean these are the only game where people seem to be upset about this

Also those were all made by deprecate groups too

>>28258194
Raichu has always been fat and he's much skinnier in this model than he usually is.

>>28258160
>>was already flying in Gen V
Except it was flying correctly in that game so it wasn't a problem.

>>"F-fuck Gen VI guys amiriteamirite? d-do I fit in yet?"
I dunno man, you seem to be the one who's trying to fit in here.

>>28258046
I'm too lazy to post a picture of deoxys

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>>28258048

Even with BW's continuous animated sprites Hitmontop was on its head.

The models director of XY was just an idiot in general.

>>28258223
How does something that just started to evolve flight fly "correctly"?

>>28258223
It's a fat fuck now

>>28258222

Well yea, true, but in its sprites its not really fat in an ugly way. I think its the stance it has in the 3d model? all hunched over and shit like its out of breath.

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>>28258194
I'm disappointed with how Raichu looks, too. Stadium's Raichu model so much better to me. It didn't look like a derpy little hunchback, at least.

>>28258253
Not him but he does say minimal animation and we both know BW's animation couldn't handle him going from standing to spinning

Don't act like a moron just to try and call someone out

>>28258253

BW's animations were just sprite tweens. They couldn't animate it standing up and then go upside down, hence why on it's head the whole time.

>>28258295
>BW's animations were just sprite tweens

This has always been a shitty meme

>>28258255
Yeah, it didn't fit with the shitty flyer theme in Gen 5 but at least it looked good, gen 6's animation fits the theme but looks terrible as a result.
If it stayed of the ground and used it's shitty flying as an attacking animation, as the pokedex implies, it would be perfect.

>>28258304

Maybe tween is the wrong term, but they barely moved. Show me a single BW sprite that has a Pokemon actually changing it's position, and not just bouncing up and down or moving it's arms/legs.

>>28258314
>inefficiently flying by flapping it's wings super fast
>not fitting the shitty flyer theme

>>28257820
I really hope that rumour about new old-Gen models are true. As like, we got some great fucking amazing sprites on Gen V for Gen VI come with fucking terrible 3D.

Lucarios battle model bugs me.

I liked how the BW sprite constantly moved and swayed and dipped like it was actually ready to throw down and best some shit.

Then comes gen 6 and now it just.. stands there. The fug?

Listen here chucklefucks

The reason why no one has a problem with Gen V's Archeops sprite is that IT LOOKS GOOD. At the very least it looks cool. and makes it look slender and raptor-y and shit. It just looks good. Sprites were never meant to represent how the pokemon is actually fighting, just a representation of the pokemon itself.

The 3D sprite just makes it look goofy as fuck which okay, it might have been, but it's just not as appealing. And if it was meant to show how it actually fights it also fails because something that doesn't fly well but run would FIGHT ON THE FUCKING GROUND

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>>28258398
They definitely need to add more movement to Pokemon when they aren't using attacks, too many of them just stand there. Knowing Gamefreak it will take them 4 3D generations to do that

>>28258253
Hitmontop is a Capoeira fighter. Its standing in a typical Capoeira pose

>>28258355
Emolga

>>28257820
At least he's doing something. I hate that 90% of the models are just the Pokemon staring ahead while standing completely idle

>>28258253
That's only because the base frames in BW for the older Pokemon were directly rehashed from gen 4. They wouldn't bother to completely re-draw hitmontop of all Pokemon.

In fact, that sprite you posted is from DPP. His BW sprite uses the HGSS sprite.

>>28258286
You literally have autism. The Stadium model is objectively worse.

>>28257844
TO BE LOVED BY ANYONE>>28257857

>>28258446
some don't even have actual faint animations.

>>28258418
>Muh headcanon

>>28258418
So it should be a representation of a poorly flying pokemon.. While not depicting it's poor flight?

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>>28258468
>He doesn't like what I like he must have autism

You might be the autistic one here anon

>>28257820
Dude... It's one of the best! Capoeira master!

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>>28257922
Fucking this!
How can something with such a great art model have such a terrible 3D model?!

>>28257922
I really don't like Delphox but I'd hate it a lot less if this model wasn't so awful

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>>28257922
More like this

>>28258194
>raichu
>vileplume
>favorite gen 1 pokemon

are you me?

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>>28258483

Archeops being a poor flier is literaly ONE(1) of its characteristics

Don't get me wrong, showing it being a clumsy fuck while flying is okay, but it should be shown when it tried using a flying type move or something. There is zero reason why it would always be in the air when it cannot fucking mantain itself like that without huge effort, it should fight low in the ground and then Yoshi jump or some shit when the situation needs it to.

>>28258481

How is any of that headcanon, motherfucker?

>>28258468
>The model that has unique animations and a better pose is worse.
huh

>>28258586
It's in the air because of sky battles, regardless of whether you think it was worth it or not you already know the reason

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>>28257922

Dear god, you're right.

>Fucking stiff-ass pose that makes Delphox look like it has its stick up its arse
>Completely symmetrical
>Barely any motion

Thanks for drawing attention to this anon, now I can't unsee it.

>>28258592
>animations
Irrelevant when comparing models

>better pose
Nice meme

>>28258483
Not that anon, but it should just take off for certain moves. The clumsy flight could be used for the move fly and in sky battles. Just like the same argument people ITT made for hitmontop only flipping over to attack

Shut up nerds, just because he can't fly well doesn't mean he gave up on flying. He's trying his hardest to fly and it's a great animation.

>ITT: we prove once and for all that the people hating on the 3D animations are genwunner retards who haven't even seen the animations they whine about

>>28257945
That model is fantastic.

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>>28258194
RAICHU IS FAT

DEAL WITH IT FAT-SHAMER

>>28258685

Nobody is saying it should have given up on flying, I'm just saying it shouldn't try to do it all the time

Do you think professional swimmers spend all their time in water? Do you run EVERYWHERE?

>>28258754
then why should hitmontop stay on its head at all times

literally no difference between archeops gen 6 and gen 5 other than him having his legs in a different stance

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>>28258460

Not really. All it does is lower it's arms slightly when it lands, not really a position change like going from standing to sitting or turning around.

>>28258776
I wasn't in that discussion, Hitmontop doing a ginga works perfectly well for me since it does go back to spinning on its head for some attacks

>>28257978
The fact the preeovo of this guy is no longer in alert mode saddens me.

>>28258800
Tympol then

>>28258754
>>28258632

>>28258579
It's uses this pose when attacking.

>>28258586
>How is any of that headcanon, motherfucker?
>Gen V is better because it looks cooler and what I think it should look like
>Gen VI sucks because it's not what I want it to be

>>28258632
>>28258846

I know

I'm just still mad. I mean there are pokemon that should be able to take part but can't, yet the quasi non flight bird gets in

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>>28258828

It depresses me too. These guys get too much undeserved hate.

>>28258874

I believe the word you're looking for is "opinions", and I'm talking just the sprites.

>>28258882
I'd be fine with it if they built it into normal battles or something cool, but they put this huge restriction on what they could do for like 2 random missable trainers iirc

I appreciate the thought at least, don't know why they didn't do it for water types which would be a lot easier

>>28257820
>you put your right foot in
>you put your right foot out
>you put your right foot in
>and shake it all about

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This thing bugs me more than any of the others, although most of the animations could stand to be more animated

>>28257820
I just realized how much I don't care about Hitmontop. Like, I barely even recognize it as a Pokémon. Why is that?

>>28260300
It's a Generation 2 Pokemon. Most of them are just as out of place and boring.

>>28257840
>>28257857

Where the fuck does this 'capoiera' meme comes from? It's capoeira.

>>28258015

And in the anime he stands when idle and spins when attacking.

It's not like both options hadn't been done.

I think Hitmontops 3D idle animation is great. It actually shows off what his fighting style is based on: Capoeira. And he still stands on his head to attack for most of his moves. But what pisses me off is that his coolest animation being the double spin roundhouse kick is only used for ONE move: low sweep.

Literally all of them. Im super disapponted at how gen 6 handeld the 3D models. Theyre very boring and lifeless. Majority of them just stand there. Stadium, colloseum, XD, and battle revolution did a much better job at 3D models

inb4 xD meme

>>28258862
It should be the ready pose. Only pokemon I would accept a stiff standing straight pose from would be one whose dex entry talks about how invincible and unflinching they are.

>>28259247
I'm way more annoyed that it is standing on two legs, when it's model is clearly designed for a quadruped. Just look at it's fucking leg and body length/ratio.

>>28261654
You're 100% correct

>>28260460
>dude typos LOL XD

go somewhere

there are only about a dozen bad models from gen 6. everything else is either great tier or god tier.

debate me.

>>28257923
Is there somewhere you can get gifs like this of every Pokemon?

>>28262977
dubs of truth

If you think Archeops looks better animated as a retard, you have autism.

>>28263788

His dex entry talks about how he struggles to fly. The XY model is how it should have been from the start.

>>28258446
>some don't even have actual faint animations.

Which ones?

>>28263788
>>28263886
Not him but. Arechops has good animation, but it's got a shitty model

>>28264312
Swinub and Beldum are the ones that come to mind, there are definitely more though.

>>28257902
Looks like he's got 4 dicks

>>28257928
>based on a spinning top
That's not Baltoy

>>28264499
Oh god the fucking smoke/fire animations in these games are disgusting

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old Smeargle: tail in hand, whipping that shit around, ready to CREATE ART

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>>28264867
new Smeargle: durr I'm just gonna stand here boss!

>>28258223
It was a problem in Gen V because it's supposed to be a poor flier. They fixed in in Gen VI. Also
>unironically using "no u" as an argument

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Sky Battles were a mistake.

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Post gen 6 models that are good

>>28264867
just looks like he's jerkin' off

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>>28265179
Yet he's perfectly fine in Amie.

>>28265194
Holy shit I didn't even think about this. When I saw the shitty sky battle animations I thought, "why not have separate standing animations and only have the flight animations play in sky battles?" Then I thought "eh, they probably wouldn't want to go through the effort of making separate standing animations".

Except they fucking did. For amie. There is literally no excuse.

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>>28265187

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>>28265187
this drunk bastard

>>28265129
>>unironically using "no u" as an argument
>responding to a shitty post with a shitty comeback
Nothing wrong with that tbqh

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>>28257820
>>28257843
>>28258253
>casuals who never bother to actually do any research and observations beyond looking at the limited sprites

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>>28265187

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>>28265187

>>28257995
Sauce?

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>>28265187

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>>28265477
Best. Zumba class. Ever.