Rankings and SM predictiions

>>28240970


I...I...I agree with this.
I would maybe put Yellow and Emerald a rank higher but Im biased because nostalgia.
But yeah this works.

Swap ORAS and XY.

>>28240970
That's some good fucking taste OP.

Are you me?

>>28241119

This desu. X/Y was their first try as a full 3D game. I can't forgive them, and the region was fun to travel around.

ORAS is just disapointing as a Remake after FR/LG and HG/SS

>>28241087
I admit I just left Yellow with the others though I never played it. But thinking about it it's probably different enough from RB to deserve to be a tier higher.

I like Emerald a lot (it was actually the last Pokemon game I played before jumping into Gen 6 and it was great) but it still has a few things I'm not a big fan of.

>>28241119
No, lol

>>28240970
>this taste
I want to fuck you

>>28240970
I don't like Gen 6, but if this is supposed to be as objective as possible than you have to put XY at least C tier. I'd also put Platinum in S tier and SM in B tier

>>28240970
>B2W2
>S rank
>BW
>A rank

When will this meme end?

>>28240970
Move RS and FRLG down one level, and Platinum up one level.

>>28241188
It's not, because it's not a meme

>>28240970
Move BW to C and Emerald to D and you nailed it.

Well, that and SM prediction to B.

>>28240970
Move emerald to S and this is a 10/10 list

>>28241224
>D
Shit I meant B

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>>28240970

Trigger warning: superior opinions

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>>28241087
>>28241150
>>28241175
>>28241250
>tfw every time I post some ranking I get complimented on my top tier taste

>>28241158
>>28241184
I considered XY being higher, but I legitimately think it didnt do good in too many aspects both large and small. The region was Sinnoh tier tedious, the Kalos leaders dont leave thier gyms, coming off Johto and Unova where every leader did, the pacing was bad, with too much story pushed between the 7th and 8th gym, the region has nothing to do, didnt like most of the characters, the music felt generic (though not bad), dont like Megas, I honestly could go on. It was fine to play, but not something I can say did many things well.

>>28241279
>prediction thread

>>28241278
I was about to yell at shit taste

>>28241166
>I admit I just left Yellow with the others though I never played it.

/vp/ in a nutshell.

Am I retarded for liking all of them? I dunno man, I love every Pokemon game. At the end of the day each has its ups and downs but they're all equal to me.

>>28241329
Yellow is just RB with following Pikachu

>>28241329
I thought most of /vp/ shits on yellow
>shitting on extra giftmons is the current trend thanks to Lucario and Lati@s
>muh ashnime

>>28241280
Not perfect, but still the overall best ranking on /vp/

>>28241351
I don't want to derail this thread, but those were Pokemon you couldn't find in Gen 1. You can find any of those Pokemon yourself in X and Y

Also they're apart of plot points of the game.

>>28241280
XY are games put together with low quality glue and the least effort possible in the story, but they are better than DP and RBY: put them in Cbut don't you dare putting them any higher

>>28241338
And better sprites you fucking underage.

>>28241409
Yellow was my first game, I always forget that there are different sprites

>>28241338
>>28241409
and getting all starters you filthy plebs

>>28241338
>>28241421
>>28241431
And different teams

>>28240970
honestly anyone who puts gen 3 above gen 4 is a memefuck retard who should just quit playing the games

>>28241481
That's the same for all 3rd versions

They did do it first.

they still have Blue a shit team move sets, did they do that on purpose like for not being too strong? Lance Beam Bolted iirc

>>28241280

Still didn't explain why ORAS is that hight

>>28241280
Sinnoh is a great region desu, agree with your assessment of Kalos and XY though.

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>>28241279
>predictions

>>28241184
>>28241224
I'm not one of those retards sucking GF's dick when it comes to everything SM, but I'm still expecting to like it a lot. I am a bit more nervous though. Hoping SNorlax's crystal is just unusually strong, for instance.

>>28241278
I was about to complain too

>>28241396
I'd say XY are bad games put together well, and DP are good games put together badly, and so are fine together. Though I wouldnt be totally opposed to a C ranking

>>28241351
> the overall best ranking on /vp/

>>28240970
I enjoyed HGSS and BW2 but I don't really understand the massive praise they get.

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>>28241119
>>28241158
No no XY is in the right spot as is. C+ at best
>>28241280
Explained it better than I could. Yeah ORAS is somewhat of a step down compared to emerald but at least it actually felt like a more complete game with stuff to do on the side compared to XY.

>>28241510
Lance didn't just BoltBeam. He had Blizzard, Thunder and Fire Blast.

In the gen that has 90 Accuracy Blizzard.

>>28241557
I get that and all but there's still quite a few things that can go wrong.

Also I did damage calculations comparing Pancake to an approximation of the Normal Z-move, it appears that Snorlax's really is just abnormally strong after all.

Honestly X/Y should be higher, it's possibly one of my favorites behind black/white and black/white 2 and of course heart gold and soul silver.

>>28241613
I just remeber insane coverage

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>>28240970
You match my rankings pretty much to a T. Only thing is I'd probably do the aforementioned Emerald and Yellow (probably Platinum too) shift up a tier. Niceu taste.

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>>28241644
You remember well. Also that lv 62 Dragonite is pretty impressive, considering is Gen I

>good taste
>Barely any shitposting or people calling shit taste
this is a good thread

>>28241563
I just think they do the most things the best. Both of them are fully realised experiences. When it comes to story, region, overworld, music, characters, minigames, content and lore, those two games are in my top 3 for all of those.

>>28241517
Sinnoh is a fine region, but it's so TM heavy with marches and deep snow and has a Lumiose City but in Mountain form and has fog and slow surfing and layout that encourages a lot of back and fourth movement. My current second most tedious outside Kalos.

>>28241613
Oh, I know that things can go wrong, It's a very cautious A. I'm already apprehensive of how well the no gyms will be implemented, just how many collectibles we have now, or wasted Alolan Forms are being just Gen 1 only after Gen 1 got so many megas one Gen before. Good on Snorlax though.

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Oh boy,this is going to trigger /vp/'s autism.

I played G/S at least 10 times each so going through HG/SS felt so tedious.Same thing with Platinum.I have played Diamond many times and going through Sinnoh AGAIN felt more like chore than an adventure(also the Distortion world was shit).I haven't played the Gen 3 games many times,so playing ORAS wasn't tedious for me.

tl;dr I have played the originals/first versions so many times that playing the remakes/third version felt uninteresting.That's not the case with ORAS though.

I have give credit to XY.For a game that is incomplete it is very fun.At least in my opinion.

>>28241826
>HGSS on par with DP
You've gone and done it now, lad

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>>28241794
This thread has been fantastic, I should make them more often.

I actually have a few folders on my computer called "Pokemon World" and "Comparisons" that exist purely for discussion thread fuel.

>>28241826
This surely triggers me. Though you're admitting it's just you personally feeling this way due to your playstyle through they years. Still think separating "stuff you like" from "stuff that are good" could have let say, Platinum and HGSS be higher than their originals

>>28241864
As I said,I had a terrible experience with HG/SS.I was thinking to play them again,to see if I really dislike them.

>>28241826
This might the worst taste I've ever seen on /vp/ in my life.

I don't even know what to say

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>>28241826
...Everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to said opinions.

I certainly can't agree with XY being at the top of any best pokemon game list personally with the flaws that it has and the lack of content...

>>28241898
Would non ORAS Hoenn be considard Scott?

>>28241826
I don't agree with your taste, but I can respect your honesty. However this thread was supposed to be about an objective ranking of the pokemon games, not how every anon has enjoyed them

Yellow didn't bring anything particularly game changing. Nor did Crystal. Personally, I would rank those two in the same tier as their predecessors.

>>28241959
Oh,my bad.Well if I have to be objective,OP's order is the correct one.(mostly)

>>28241972
I actually disagree for Crystal, first story involving legendaries and extra storyline.

Not to mention the first battle facility and original animated sprites and move tutors.

And a lot more small things

>>28241913(me)
Sorry if I was rude

>>28241933
When I first posted this that came up, I'd say yeah, though unlike the others he was more about the facility rather than the evil team/legendary

>>28241972
Crystal additions:
>female playable character
>Battle Tower
>improved aesthetics (actual Ice at the Ice path)
>Buena's Password (setting the precedent for more minigames in each region)
>location names showing up as you enter them
>Eusine plot
>Ruins of Alph plot
>animated sprites

>>28242026
Ruins of Alph wasn't in GS? I'll be damned

>>28242025
This thread is chill, dont worry

>>28242026
It was , but the puzzles to get extra items wasnt, if I remember correctly

>>28241516
They had a lot of shit in them, and remaking RS was a bad idea, but they were more disappointing and bad, and I didnt want the great games they could have been to make cloud my judgement and make me rate them lower than the okay games they are

>>28242056
I replied to myself lol. Refer to the second part of >>28242056

>>28242056
They were in GS, but their only purpose was allowing to the player to catch all the Unown.
In Crystal you are rewarded for doing so and there are some more items to get in the Ruins after solving some puzzles

>>28242122
FUCKING CHRIST I mean the second part of >>28242099 fuck

and >>28242141

>>28242099
ORAS is a decent remake of decent games

Emerald>>>ORAS>RS personally

>>28242235
>>28242099

Meant to say disappointing *than bad, as in they werent bad. I agree with that ranking of Hoenn games. Though some parts were bad, like the entire Delta Episode

>>28242280
You seem to have good opinions, what are your thoughts on looker

>>28242367
He's fine, but is being put in too many games, almost like an easy out. Similar to how Cynthia was in 4 games in a row doing different things. I hope someone else can be brought back for once, or a new person made.

I mean, Looker is literally the only person from another region that made a single appearance in BOTH Kalos and Hoenn. where other games had cross regional appearances all the time

>>28242463
If I remember one of the leaks said both Looker AND Cynthia were already in SM which rubs me the wrong way.

But it also said Blue, Lance and AZ were there so I'm cool with it.

>>28242508
Yeah, even more of those two souns beyond excessive but at least we get those guys. Probably like one person chilling on each island after you win or something.

>>28242582
I was omitting Zinnia as well, anon. Her retard ass is coming along too.

>>28240970
I'd say B

>>28241909
I recently played them and I gotta say I didn't care for them. Pokémon availability was terrible, too many mons requiring evolution stones that aren't available until kanto except through mini game points redeemed on a certain day, the worst leveling curve in any Pokemon game. Its great that theres a fuckton of shit to do, but getting to the Elite 4 theb first time around is such a slog I almost never want to play them again. They were good like every Pokémon at least is, but they're probably my least favorite games from the last 10 years, DP included.

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>>28242594
Legitimately concerning, i was hoping everything Zinnia could be in one place so I can ignore it

>>28242635
Maybe she won't be so fucking trash this time is what I hope.

Still can't drag down the hype for me if it at least means a decent postgame boss

>>28242670
Maybe if you don't have to fight her with the best legendary in the game on your team

>>28242670
>>28242741
Not even that she's just not a good person. Even Lysandre felt bad for what he did. Zinnia had no remorse

>>28242741
in the front slot

with no opt out

and the oppurtunity to click dragon pulse 5 times and win

I wanted to let it faint but I hate Zinnia so much I just took the autowin. I really liked ORAS dialogue up till this point so it stung even harder.

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>>28242772
>mfw people say this makes up for the battle frontier

>>28241280
>every time I post some ranking I get complimented on my top tier taste

Because you have great taste ~desu

>>28242801
It really doesn't but I still enjoyed the game for the most part.

I'm more mad about no rematches. The one chance at Mega Probopass thrown down the drain for such a stupid. I was legitimately more mad that Probopass didn't get a mega in a Roxanne rematch than about the Frontier. Only recently have I become less mad about that.

>>28242848
ORAS are the first games to end a gen without rematches since ironically Emerald

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>>28242876
It stings especially harder because people around me keep telling me it deserves to be PU because popularmons deserve it first because it's precedence. Especially when the shit people thing deserve Megas are usually UU or really good in doubles like Milotic.

I've come to appreciate my jew's niche support paired with offensive Megas in doubles enough for some of the pain to go away but still.

>>28242948
I know what it feels like man.

I did get one in ORAS. Great things can happen to your shitmons too

>>28243000
Beedrill, Pidgeot or Lopunny?

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>>28242876
Wow. I could have found that funny, if the joke wasn't on us.

>>28242876
Actually ORAS had E4 rematches

>>28243014
altaria

9/10

Only one I'd disagree with is X/Y.

But that's purely my opinion, the complaints leveled against both games are completely fair.

>>28243354
>Altaria
At first I thought you didn't really know exactly how you felt since muh nostalgia backs the former two and you know exactly what backs Lopunny.

But damn anon, at least one of us got lucky.

>>28241612
>with stuff to do on the side compared to XY.

hardly. The post game is just as bad as XY. And ORAS is a fucking remake on top of that. XY was fine for all the new content it had to introduce.

>>28242769
Oh she is indeed terrible. Really bad character. Actually made the main game worse by "it was all a part of my plan for the evil team to do this" bullshit.

>>28242772
Yeah, the Delta Episode dialogue was so bad

>>28242841
>mfw

>>28243435
I like how even disagreements are civil in this thread

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>>28243463
>Actually made the main game worse by "it was all a part of my plan for the evil team to do this" bullshit.
THIS.

I actually really liked Maxie and Archie in these games, and then they pull shit like this. I let it slide because I really enjoyed the pre-DE dialogue but damn if it still doesn't make me mad

I also like this thread because people can express some apprehension with SM without being called a Genwunner and being shitposted to oblivion

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>>28242841
>mfw

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>>28243537
This thread is fucking GOAT. No one's being called genwunner or apologist or anything like those buzzwords from either sides.

Congrats OP, your taste is so god tier it created one of the most comfiest threads on /vp/

>>28241333
Yes some Pokemon games are objectively worse than others

>>28243463
>disagreements are civil

Yea, it's nice actually having discussions instead of arguements.

I'll post responses like my previous post, and in other threads still get ripped apart just because I have X/Y in my post.

>>28243578
I'm legit surprised the people who shitpost about Unova or Johto didn't flood here. Not people with different opinions, but the guys who say Johto is only for nostalgiafags and the whole mess that comes with Gen 5 shitposters.

>>28242965
Those are odd tiers to use as your ranking desu

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I'm not predicting S/M just yet.

>>28240970
Swith BW with BW2 and that chart's golden. I just happened to like the first games more.

>>28241333
Liking them all and them all being equal are very different. I like them all but that doesn't mean I don't definitely love HGSS and BW2 a lot more

>>28243680
>666 kilobytes
My guess is Johto doesn't do it for you. Which is fine. Even if its shit taste

>>28243723
I assume the story and pokedex? I personally think BW2 had the perfect Dex.

>>28243676
I'm kind of surprised too.

Either they overlooked this thread, or OP's taste is that good.

>>28240970
this is probably the best list I have seen thus far.

Can't comment on ORAS because they are the only games I haven't played.

>>28243733
>My guess is Johto doesn't do it for you. Which is fine. Even if its shit taste

Johto is what's shit.

>>28243733
Story had more impact, BW2 felt like a forced sequel story-wise. But that's not a big deal for me, the main reason I prefered BW1 was that until E4 all mons were Unova mons. I honestly think all Pokemon games should be like this, it makes things a lot more interesting that having pokemon which I can already recite the entire learnset from memory at that point.

>>28240970

I would''a maybe had Blue Red or Yellow higher on the list because nostalgia, but the list is agreeable

>>28241333
Also, nice trips

>>28243669
Exactly. Threads like these are why I love /vp/ which is why I make them

>>28243760
I know that how much you like Johto is what makes or breaks those games more than any other, people can hate Unova but still love Gen V, for instance. At least, much more so than the Johto games

>>28243763
Yeah, but that can't happen because no gen will introduce so much (and none should, desu)

I actually preferred the sequel's story. Liked the "two competing teams" thing and found it done better there than in Hoenn

>>28243826
>I know that how much you like Johto is what makes or breaks those games more than any other

Which is the sign of a shit game.

>>28243680
Honestly besides Johto those are some good tastes

also
>666

>>28240970
> Putting Red, Blue and Yellow at D
It's like putting The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari as a D film because it is old. For the time it was released, it was 10x more revolutionary than any game that came after it.

>>28243840
No? I don't get what you mean at all.

>>28243840
Please don't derail this thread, it's quite nice.

People have varying opinions.

I just find them comfy and full of life. Most charm in my opinion which is what I look for

>>28243862
>For the time it was released, it was 10x more revolutionary than any game that came after it.
ahahaha you aren't being serious, are you?

>>28243763
BW2's story was pretty bad, it's almost XY-tier to me. I also prefer BW - BW2 were very fun, but the characters (outside of Colress) and story annoyed the crap out of me. BW pulled those aspects off better for the most part.

Though gen 5 in general suffers from awkward dialogue that affects my enjoyment of the games.

>>28243862
I like the games anon, but they just had a lot of hype around them.

Very poor technical wise even compared to games of the time

>>28243914
They did get new translators for the game iirc, probably haven't found their groove.

Hugh's intro was a good sign of that

>>28243868
If all a video game has going for it is the setting, and nothing else in it can make up for it if you don't, then it's a shit game.

>>28243914
>tfw I actually really like Hugh as a character
If he was hunting down something like an Eevee people would've loved him. I actually liked that he was hunting down a Pokemon he could have easily replaced by going outside for a few minutes. It shows how much he cares about it being that exact same one.

I also like some of his sperg moments.

>>28243951
That's not what I said though. Its not "the only good thing in it is the setting" at all. Plus, it was that way for you, not necessarily everyone.

What I said was that the region is more important a factor for the Johto games. People who dislike the games usually dislike the region specifically as one if their biggest reasons. Doesn't mean that its the only good thing, but its something that ends up polarizing the opinions

>>28240970
I'd move emerald up to S rank, but otherwise really great taste.
And I may just be optimistic but i think sun and moon will be S tier as well.

>>28240970
Can someone tell me, with no troll intended why black and white 2 are so high?
I actually played regularly all those game expect those, but i played the rom hack only, so i never played the "normal" game. They where good but nothing special.

>>28244121
I think it's mostly because of the postgame.

>>28244121
Best postgame and most content out of any of the games, no genwun pandering

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>>28242801
This always irks me.

>>28243529
And this. I dont like using the phrase Mary Sue (especially after people use it badly for a certain /co/ related character) but Zinnia definitely is one. Just awful

>>28243895
Also acceptable taste

>>28243862
True, but later games in the series still hold up well after so long, so I cant not treat RBY the same way I'd treat the rest. Do they hold up now.

>>28244121
they just have a tonne of content, and a great region. And music. And characters.

>>28243991
I also think Hugh is the second best rival after Silver. He sets out on a mission unrelated to yours, goes through development, and succeeds, makes sure you are both strong enough to handle what's going on with regular battles and then sees you off to the league with a final fight before postgame

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>>28240970
BW2 and HG/SS S Rank? Ok.

>>28243991
Iirc it's his dead grandfather's Pokemon

>>28244308

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