/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon General

First for cutest partner is fennekin

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Second for biting dogs

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Third for cute art.

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Fourth for disgustingly broken

>>28223328
for a while i was thinking 'what the fuck i am looking at'
then i've realized that small thing is celebi and the rest clicked

>>28223456
It's actually a big-ass comic. I was considering posting the whole thing, but it's 20 pages (not counting the cover) and I don't think anyone would want twenty posts in here just dumping a translated comic-ized version of the intro to ItFoD, no matter how cool it is

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GAME HAS BEEN OUT ALMOST A YEAR AND I STILL DON'T FUCKING OWN IT
MY 3DS BROKE AND I CAN'T USE IT
FUCKING KILL ME

>>28224297
buy a new one

>>28224297
>get 2ds
>mod it

>>28224027
>I don't think anyone would want twenty posts in here just dumping a translated comic-ized version of the intro to ItFoD
Why not? It'd give us something to talk about and would keep the thread bumped.

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>>28224892
Fair enough. I might as well post some of it, anyway.

>>28224948
might want to spoiler this shit

Got through graduating from the guild. The ending was kind of sad, mostly because of the music that played along with it. Meowth didn't do much for me before, but I actually felt kind of bad for him during the whole scene.
I now have the option to switch leaders and bench myself and Meowth, but since the two of us are the strongest members of the team, I won't do that. Might make Meowth the leader though, since that was my original plan.

>>28225235
Everytime I play a PMD game I end up only using my starter and partner because I get attached to them so much.

>>28225479
It wasn't exactly that I grew attached to them, but more that the two evolve into a few of my favorite Pokemon in the series.
I'll give Special Episodes 2 and 5 a shot soon, I saved 2 for later since that one was apparently good. 1 was alright, but 3 and 4 didn't do much for me. I don't know Team Charm, and they didn't hit me as very memorable despite being the main characters in the episode. Sunflora and Loudred felt like non-characters in the story, and the SE didn't help them that much, whereas Bidoof already had more screentime than them to begin with, and the extra characterization works with him.

>tfw got a shiny drifloon
>tfw named it after the pmd drifblim that got my the Tight Belt

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>>28226043
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>>28226099
i deserved it for all the shit i went through in ZIS

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>tfw need to refinish super
>deus ex just came out
>ace attorney out in a week
fuck

>>28226128
Are you the guy who replied to my post from this morning on shiny hunt thread?

>>28226245
probably, dunno which one though

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>>28222863
tfw no minccino gf

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>>28226290
Yep

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This would've been cool if it unlocked right when you finish the postgame.

>>28226149
How is AA5? I only played the the first 4, and the two Investigations game. Trucy was cute and all, but I personally thought AA4 was still weak overall.

>>28226529
Dual Destinies is good. I would recommend it.
As well as Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright if you haven't played that.

Finished SE2. Igglybuff was surprisingly strong, I thought he'd be a glass cannon. I actually cried when Armaldo had to leave Iggly. Even though it was a lot shorter, I felt like this story was way better than the main plot, since I actually felt for the characters throughout most of it. Time to do Grovyle's.

>>28227454
If you thought Grovyle was flat or bland in the main story, the special episode redeems him a lot. His is also the longest of the 5.

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>>28224948
>tfw you remember you have to run errands almost as soon as you start posting a comic

>>28228366
spoiler it please, not everybody played that game. The plot is great don't fuck it up for people

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>>28228383
Fine, fine, if you say so.

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>>28228383
>posts the manga unspoilered not long after someone starts playing it for the first time
The absolute madman

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>>28228450
Ehh, crap, I'm not used to having to spoiler a zillion images. Sorry about the slipthrough.

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>>28228496

Got to Icicle Forest in SE5. Enjoying it a lot so far, and I hope something tops Temporal Tower's theme later, hearing it early on was pretty strange since it was the final dungeon theme in the main story.

Never really thought any of Sky's spoilers were too shocking, especially when the opening scene reveals that Grovyle's a goody-goody that travels with you. I'll still wait until I'm finished playing it before reading what's been posted ITT.

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>>28228561
The comic only covers the very introduction scene to SE5, so if you're already at Icicle Forest you've already seen this stuff, hah. I wonder if the person ever continued it? I'll check later, maybe.

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>>28228586

Best song in all of the PMD games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61oFE03ZFAY

>>28226025
>I don't know Team Charm
Of course you don't.

>>28228561
>especially when the opening scene
They fucked up.
I don't understand why they didn't do something like, having the original Time/Darkness one in its place and have the other one only unlock once you reach the postgame or something, it would have been way better.

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>>28228609
Non-spoilery, but I'm almost positive that the actual Special Episode didn't have nearly this many ellipsis. I think I based it more on how the dialogue boxes themselves were set up, though.

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>>28228670
You should at least look at this panel. It's probably one of my favorite bits of PMD fanart ever.

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>>28228561
>I hope something tops Temporal Tower's theme later
You'll be in for a treat. The plot gets even better once you finish that dungeon too, so look forward to that.

>>28228611
It's alright, but definitely not the best.

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>>28228793
And that's the last of 'em. Here's the source: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=34645726

Semi-related, but damn, I wish it were easier to find scans of PMD comics from across the pond. There's a lot of Comiket stuff I see pop up in the Pokedan tag that looks awesome.

>>28228818
So, are there more comics like this then? It's pretty cool

>>28228793
why aren't their eyes there
it would be really cute, those are some of the best choices

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>>28229058
No eyes is a common Japanese art cliche, they usually use it to add anonymity/mysteriousness to characters that usually don't show up in person.

Other examples with eyeless characters would be in games/VN with a self-insert, where their faces are usually covered or not drawn with eyes, since those are generally the most identifying feature of a character, and they want to leave it to player interpretation.
It can also be done at times just to make a character look creepy, dramatic, or upset.

I got done with SE5. Lots of dialogue, but it was all great. I felt sad when Grovyle and co. were dying, but them coming back killed the mood. What was up with that?

REMOVE FE

>>28229183
I guessed so, but I don't think it really works in this case since the author chose which Pokémon to use.

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>>28229431
So they can come back in the next games.

>>28229499
I guess you're kind of right. If there were canon starters or something, it'd probably be less weird.

>>28229431
I also did not like that part of the scene. I don't know why they couldn't just let Grovyle sacrifice himself like he wanted to.

>>28229618
Just like the link where yyou help an emolga save a dunsparce

the game is full of reference

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>>28229040
There are, but not any that I actually am able to post. Just little comiket blurbs that get posted on Pixiv for advertisement.

>>28229431
Personally I've never minded that, if only because it's another mild loose end that offers people the chance to pick it back up and imagine what happens on their own. It's part of the reason I like Explorers, it's always felt like it's the richest with... plot threads? Brainstorm fuel? Whatever you want to call it. I started writing a story about the idea of Grovyle and co. having to integrate back into mundane life after living in post-apoc for who knows how long, but the idea spiraled out of my hands. I'll probably try it again someday, though, when I can outline things better.

>>28229618
>nicknamed Poochyena
How

>>28229948
custom starter

Im curious. What do you guys think about the original mistery dungeon games?

>>28230112
as in non-pokemon mystery dungeon?

>>28230112
I personally haven't played any mystery dungeon (or any roguelikes/lites) outside of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

>>28230112
I'm a fan roguelikes and roguelites in general but the only other mystery dungeon game I've ever played is the etrian odyssey one

>>28230112
I've only played a few of the shiren games, and I can never get very far.

Fuck xD. I actually meant the Blue/Red Mistery dungeon games.

>>28230267
I only played blue but it's still my favorite PMD game to date. I liked the fact that you could visit your recruited pokemon on their little islands. The story is objectively the worst one but I still liked these games. May just be nostalgia tho

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>>28230267
>xD

>>28230112
I've been playing the original Shiren game recently, it's great.

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>>28229948
Custom starters. A guide on how to get them is in the OP.

>>28230112
Only MD I tried besides PMD is EMD, which isn't one of the originals. In spite of its flaws, one of the things I liked the most about it was that it stressed the importance of using different units. Whereas in PMD almost everyone plays the same in the end, EMD's unit classes give everyone a different function.
Found a 3DS cia download for Mystery Dungeon 2: Shiren the Wanderer, so I'll probably give that a try some time soon.

>>28230267
They're okay. A bit rough around the edges. I'd rather just play Sky or Super instead though.

>>28230267
It's pretty good and sadly underrated by most fans. It has a few things that were ironed out in Explorers, but it's not that hard to look past it and enjoy the rest of the game.

>>28230267
They're fine. not the greatest but I'm glad I played them otherwise I don't know if I'd be in this thread today.

>>28230405
>Found a 3DS cia download for Mystery Dungeon 2: Shiren the Wanderer, so I'll probably give that a try some time soon.
It'd only work on a New 3DS and if it's Nintendo's official release it's going to be in Japanese. If you have a New 3DS you're going to be fine, but the original 3DS can only play it trough BlargSnes, which slows the game down a little since the game saves after every turn. It's still playable, but you may find it a little annoying. There's a DS remake that uses the PMD DS engine, so you may play that instead if you want.

>>28230467
Yeah, I know it only works on a n3DS, and it's a custom/injected .cia file. Been playing some Earthbound and Breath of Fire 2 before, they were pretty good.

Also, on a slightly different note I tried playing SMD with both the New 3DS's processing power and the unmodded/regular 3DS's. Some parts of the game had pretty bad framerate issues, like the Voidlands Mega Tyranitar fight.

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>>28230561
I know it'd be half off topic for the general and completely off topic for the board, but it would be great if you posted about your experience. That is, if nobody's bothered by it. I don't know.

>>28230112
I've only ever played the DS Shiren game, and it's alright. I like the fact that you're able to walk back the way you came and "leave" the dungeon in case you get in over your head (something that Super could have stood to include, frankly). I didn't get far, though.

>>28230267
As for Rescue Team, it's been a long, long time since I last played it at all. My friend replayed it last year and ran into a lot of issues (mostly minor, but one major), but I've been having a PMD itch again and replaying RT just might be the way to scratch it.

>>28230628
If it's okay with the rest of the general, then I'd gladly talk about it, since it might help bring some new discussion beyond speculation and waifus.

I was able to successfully install the .cia file, but I'm only at the name selection screen right now, didn't actually play it yet. I can't think of a good name now that I'm playing as a human and not a shotadog

>>28230807
I just kept the official name, it feels kind of weird to do otherwise even though I guess you're supposed to.

>>28230850
Ended up calling him Ray. Finished the opening cutscene, and right now I'm just talking to the townspeople to get a better understanding on what to do in the game. Thankfully, since it's a VC game, I don't have to worry about quicksaving or anything of that nature.

Also forgot to post a download link, in case anyone else wants to try it out if they have a New 3DS.
https://mega.nz/#!l4gEkLBT!KA7S0EH3t7G4MhSUuJonEt9ywBGoMc_66uSNVmh-4rg

>>28231031
Nice, thank you for the link.
We are getting the pots equivalent in PMD at some point, are we?

Got to the Bamboo Forest Village. This game doesn't hold your hand like PMD does, I'm already stepping on pretty crazy traps, so now I've been trying to play it safe. I'd assume attacking spaces in front of me would reveal a trap like in PMD, right?
Also heard something about how meat's used to transform yourself and enemies. That sounds pretty cool.

>>28231474
iirc in the shiren series your weapons are gained from transforming enemies and then using them to attack?

>>28231474
>I'd assume attacking spaces in front of me would reveal a trap like in PMD, right?
Yep.

>Also heard something about how meat's used to transform yourself and enemies. That sounds pretty cool.
Here's a little advice, since there's this thing that might be confusing the original game doesn't even try to explain. If a wand has no uses left, you can use it one last time by throwing it.

>>28231529
You get weapons normally. You can transform the monster into meat though, and if someone eats said meat they become that enemy.

>>28232751
>nothing for ampharos

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>>28232830
>pre-super

>>28232864
still tho

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Why are they allowed to be so cute?

>>28228704
>not the best
WHAT COULD BE BETTER YOU FUCKING SHIT
Filename should be "persona mystery dungeon"

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>>28233864
Reminds me that I still need to see if I can download that Shiren mod for Necrodancer

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>GtI was shit
>"bro you gotta play SMD, its like a complete version of GtI!!!"
>hate SMD even more
I mean, in the same way that Phantom Pain is a complete version of Ground Zeroes, sure.

>>28234730
What didn't you like about it?
inb4 WHY IS IT HARD WHY CAN'T I RENAME RECRUITS WHY ARE MISSIONS SEMI-RANDOM INSTEAD OF FULLY RANDOM AND I EITHER DISLIKE THE FIRST OR THE SECOND PART OF THE STORY THAT MAKES THE WHOLE THING SHIT ALSO LE SALAMENCE xD

>>28235121
Not him but don't pull a strawman if someone doesn't like the game.

>>28235152
>I don't know what an inb4 is

>>28235155
I know what it means but all caps shit still comes off as it anyaways

>>28235166
>typing something in all caps prevents it from being what it is

>>28235121
If you're looking to get screencapped and get upvotes for your epic roasts, try /b/.

>>28235441
I just asked a question

>>28235464
And followed it up with bait? Yeah nice try mister "i dindu nuffins im a gud boi"

>>28235474
>having expectation is bait
can we please stop shitposting now

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>>28235506
>implying "WHY IS IT HARD WHY CAN'T I RENAME RECRUITS WHY ARE MISSIONS SEMI-RANDOM INSTEAD OF FULLY RANDOM AND I EITHER DISLIKE THE FIRST OR THE SECOND PART OF THE STORY THAT MAKES THE WHOLE THING SHIT ALSO LE SALAMENCE xD" isn't bait
That would require you to stop posting entirely

>>28235514
You see, it's all about the way I typed, I wasn't expecting you to take it like that.

>That would require you to stop posting entirely
You wouldn't know anyway

>look up my recruiting progress
>already more than one tenth done
I've spent about one and half a day already.
My average pace is one new recruit every ~55 minutes. This will crash severely by the end because fucking Wish Cave (to be ran for either Pokemon themself or the evolutionary items, depending on my luck)

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>>28234730
Hey now, I might dislike Super too, but comparing it to the GZPP situation isn't fair.

>someone wants /pmdg/ to die
I CAN'T ALLOW THIS

Question for you guys (no spoilers please)

Is there a level 1 dungeon in super?

>>28237602
There aren't any. Because, well, you start at level 5 now. So yeah, there's a bunch of them.

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Do I get any extra party members in Shiren? Doing fine with just myself, but it'd still be nice to go on an adventure with other people.

>>28235121
Everything you listed but the difficulty is a genuine problem with Super. Quit typing like a faggot.

>>28237602
It's Level 5 instead of 1 now. There are a few normal dungeons that have the level reset, and everything in Meowth's Theater resets your level and prevents you from bringing items. If you can bring items, the dungeons can be cheesed by bringing Hoopa's bottle, since his level doesn't reset.

>>28238147
>Everything you listed but the difficulty is a genuine problem with Super.
Okay, let's see.

>can't rename recruited Pokémon
It is an issue, but a very minor one. It's not something that ruins the entire game.

>missions are semi-random instead of fully random
The only actual problem I see with this is that they haven't made use of this feature to make said missions more interesting. It's pretty much the same as the other games, except now they have more dialogue, some references and are a finite number. Again, not something that can ruin the entire game like most of GtI's problem do.

>story
We're talking about the game itself, not the story featured in it, are we? Again, not something that can ruin the whole game, not even when coupled with the two "problems" above.

>Salamence early in the game
It's a choice. You're not forced to use it. Actually, you aren't forced to do its mission at all.

>Do I get any extra party members in Shiren?
You do, but I won't tell you how it works, it's better if you find out by yourself. Also don't expect to have any control over their behaviour.
What has your highest floor been so far? I just got to floor 18.

The Super discussion is boring, it's basically saying the same stuff over and over.

>>28238319
I think super is great but not for the same reason red/blue and time/dark/sky. It's more story oriented, everyone has a story while the older game were more exploration oriented. I like them all (beside GtI)

>>28238319
None of the flaws are game-breaking, but they do add up and make the game overall less enjoyable. Earlygame Salamence is what caused the break system to exist, and that's one of the most annoying features Super has. The complete lack of random missions means that once you've done all the normal ones, you'll never get to do anything else. It would've been nice to have randomized missions that give you rewards like in the past three games. Renaming is a minor issue, but it does make it a lot harder to personalize your team. Nicknaming wouldn't even be an issue lore-wise, since if you're close enough to connect and enter dungeons with them, it wouldn't be weird giving them a nickname. The story has no bearing on the game's actually plays, guess I should've said that too. I still hate the second half. It's awful.
It's all minor flaws that shouldn't even be in the game, and overall makes things less enjoyable. Hopefully the next game will fix them all.

As for Shiren, I take it the guy in the second town will be one of my party members, right? He calls me "bro" a lot, and asked me to give him some money.

>>28238537
>that's one of the most annoying features Super has
Yes. That's an actual problem with Super. The bad thing however is that it doesn't go away when you reach the postgame, which they could have done regardless, Salamence or not.

I disagree that they add up to make the whole experience less enjoyable, though I do think they should be fixed. And it's nothing like GtI is like that anon said.

>As for Shiren, I take it the guy in the second town will be one of my party members, right? He calls me "bro" a lot, and asked me to give him some money.
Yeah.
He's worse than escort missions from my experience.

>escort mission
>in the middle of a giant ass room
>an heliolisk enters the room
>start spamming razorwind
>too far for me to kill it
>one shots the pokemon I'm escorting

Why is this allowed

Do you guys prefer legendary pokemon bosses or normal pokemon bosses?

>>28239666
I think having normal pokemon boss in the story mode makes more sense. Legendaries should be post-game only

>>28238820
>escort mission
Super's unique dialogue only mildly saved them. The most unenjoyable part of every game.

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Only on about floor 10 or so in Shiren right now. Those fire enemies are pretty tough.

Also tried seeing what would happen if you tried to rescue a custom starter in Super. It seems fine, though I never tried rescuing anyone else so I have nothing to compare it to.

>>28241247
I got rescued by someone the other week when I got wrecked in the epilogue dungeons, it worked fine

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>>28244829
Grovyle is best husbando

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>>28241231
>i get to escort alakazam
>mfw his stats at lv. 1

>>28245328
>it uses teleport

hahahahah have fun

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>>28245373
If only there was a way to disable moves.

Taking a break from Shiren, don't exactly know how to backtrack. Apparently it's possible before reaching the 15th floor.

Maybe I'll just try to finish the Treasure Collection in Super for now.

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>>28246332
To go back, choose the "Back" option when you get to the stairs. You can also go back by going to the left exit of a town. It isn't possible on the SNES version or after a certain point in the game.
If I remember correctly, items don't appear on levels you've already cleared(though monsters can still drop items). But it's pretty handy if the shop doesn't generate the items you want. You can also get around the no-item-generation restriction by going forward and then going back, because leaving a level by choosing "Back" doesn't count as clearing it. Or at least, I'm pretty sure that's how it works, it's been a while since I last played.
Much like the storage system, it's a way to make the game easier for new players. If you want to grind for items and money, it's possible. But items alone won't take you to victory, and it's not difficult for an experienced player to clear the main dungeon with no storage and no backtracking.

If you're really having trouble, try throwing money. If you walk onto money by holding B, then use the swap command to swap the money into your inventory, you can throw the money at enemies to deal big damage. Of course, the money can miss, and you won't be able to buy as much, but having a way to semi-reliably OHKO strong monsters is very valuable.

YOU HAVE FIVE SECONDS TO THINK OF THE NEXT MYSTERY DUNGEON FRANCHISE

If it's Fire Emblem Mystery Dungeon you may or may not be cool in my book, depends if we're talking Fates or, say, Jugdral

>>28247922
neopets mystery dungeon

>>28247922
Tomodachi Life Mystery Dungeon, feat. your Miis

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>>28247865
Oh, okay. Been playing the SNES version on my 3DS, so maybe that's why some of the tips aren't working. I'll probably continue playing it another time.

>>28247922
Maybe FE7, with FE6 being like Explorers' long-ass postgame. Not sure if Mark should be playable like the PMD heroes and if Hector, Lyn and Eliwood have to be taken into dungeons like PMD's partner.
Either way, it'd be nice to play a roguelike as Nino or Ray.

>>28247922
digimon mystery dungeon

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>>28247922
Paper Mario Mystery Dungeon
The spin-off spin-off. I'd love to see how the battle system would translate to a roguelike.

>>28248320
>every character is a Toad

>>28248281
The SNES version is brutal for newcomers and isn't as good at teaching the player. For veterans, the main game is more fun, though.
On SNES, all of the enemies deal ridiculous damage. You can find really broken items that can completely carry you through the game. If you make it to the last dungeon, you will be thoroughly disappointed because you basically need to abuse an exploit in order to win, while the DS version not only fixes the exploit but provides a fair challenge rather than just killing you from across the map for having bad luck. The DS version also has some extra content.
I highly recommend the DS version over the SNES one, though it isn't entirely superior.

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>>28248343
>final boss is Toad Matter, the living embodiment of shitty game design
>defeated by accepting that there will never be another good Paper Mario
fucking kill me

>>28247922
Castlevania Mystery Dungeon, I don't care if it's a huge change I just want it back, with no LoS shit. Albus Mode is still one of the best experiences in the franchise.

>>28248492
>The Wicked Avatar
Fuck you Konami it's DARK Avatar to me, now and forever.

>>28248492
>there were only two good paper mario RPGs
at least one of them was the best game ever, r-right?

>>28249047
And one acceptable platformer.

Super Paper Mario crushed my soul

>>28249680
yes, it was
3/4 good, and probably 5 if the next one is just a copy of sticker star
and then Mario and Luigi pretty much has a perfect record of some of the best games ever

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>go back to Shiren
>game gives me Bowboy Meat(99 arrows) in the first shop and a million Postpone Staves(Stayaway Wands)
>think it's gg
>get only two Chiro Jars(full heal, multiple use) and three Restoration Herbs
>have a few close calls, but nothing too bad
>get to the final boss
>swing a Doppelganger Staff(Decoy Orb) at him
>all the enemies gang up on him and trap him in a corner
>they beat him senseless and I don't have to do anything
kek

Boomp

>>28252109
tfw no mareep pillow

Regard PSMD, is there any more content after getting your partner back? Any interactions with your partner at all? The game has felt real emotive all throughout the story, but now my feels relatively dead.

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I haven't played PMD since blue/red, what am I in for?

>>28253169
>phones in charge of not doing retarded shit to pictures

>>28253169
Cum on it

>>28245373
>in an early dungeon
it was literally impossible for him to die

>>28253169
A great game full of refrences you won't get.

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>citra got updated
>this is how you get past Petalburg Woods freeze on vanilla ORAS
I know this is not a PMD game, but man.

I am laughing now.

what the actual fuck

...I'll see if I can manage to get around beating first Gym and then get back to PMD business.

>>28253849
Is it still a great game otherwise?

>>28254011
Yes.

>>28250261
Nice

>tfw distracted from smd to shiny hunt

Maybe i'll find a shiny in Adventure Squad?

Need help for a moveset for my Treecko
Right now I'm lvl 18 and just arrived in lively town

my moveset is
-quick attack
-mega drain
-dragon breath
-pursuit

dragon breath and mega drain are my best attacks but I'm probably gonna replace mega drain with giga drain at lvl 21 since it's stronger.

What should I do with my last 2 moves?

>>28255284
>1 in 8192 chance
>probably no way to tell it apart (other than different colors)
>not guaranteed to get it unless you savestate scum
you nuts or what

>>28255497
I've gotten lucky before, it's just a thought for when i finally get to it.

>>28255422
If Energy Ball is sold by Cofagrigus go get it

>>28255525
and which move should I remove for it?

>>28255566
Quick Attack

>>28255578
And I was thinking about replacing pursuit with agility, do you think it's a good idea?

>>28255598
If I recall, Agility isn't as good as it used to be in SMD. You'd lose out on a bit of coverage, but if you need to escape a fight fast, Agility's a good choice. You'll have to decide between coverage and the ability to escape easily

Why is Jirachi so C-UTE

>>28256125
Did Jirachi even do shit in the plot?

>>28256217
Didn't he and the FABUMPHAROS save you?

>>28256217
Does he need to do something in the plot to be C-UTE?
In Super he slept and stared at the sun, and in explorers he slept and granted a wish.

Is there a way to swap save files between Red and Blue rescue teams?

>>28259543
I wouldn't be surprised if they were the same, but I don't know. I think you should take a look at it.

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>>28222863
>check shops for bulk up TM
>FOUR frustration TMs in stock

how i can get my own starters without hacking

>>28261236
>without hacking
You can't. The closest to that is asking us to make a save for you, then you run homebrew on your 3DS (without installing anything) and just import the save.

>>28261236
You could try sending a letter to Chunsoft with some bribe money.

>>28261236
answer the little quiz at the beginning and you'll end up with your own starter

>its a training switch in the stairs room expedition

>>28262813
>he doesn't use up an apple to wait around and train moves

Doing it wrong

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>>28261173
>this thing again
oh what the fuck

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a more sensible level of busted

Why is type bulldozer so fucking op

>>28265955
>turns resists into weaknesses

Why wouldn't you take this?

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>>28268685
Cofagrigus is my favorite ghost-type.

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>>28268685
Great, now I just want to fool around of Peliper Island and see every mons walk/run animation

>>28268685
THEN I PARK MY CAR
THEN I FUCK YOUR BITCH

>>28268685
delete this

>>28272964
Not so GLORIOUS now are you Cofagrigus?

I got Pokemon Super mystery dungeon, what am i in for?

I remember playing one with a grovyle in it and i found it fun

>>28273019
Difficulty!

Unlike Explorers, you can't bullshit your way with levels, at least not until later.

Use items, they're your friend.

The plot kinda goes places in the second half.

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>this much money
And I am nowhere capping out the Bank.

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>>28273403
>dig in magma cavern pit, just for the hell of it
>find ginseng
This was a good run, even if I didn't get Groudon.

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>>28273724
screencapping this because i didn't plan this at all

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>>28274205
That's one legendary less!

Almost at the end of super.

I was expecting a m night shyamalan plot twist all game long.

I was expecting Yveltal to be the last boss when I bought the game but I was not expecting fucking Nuzleaf to betray me. Just woke up after being turned into stun, can't wait to see what happen.

Also, how the fuck did nuzleaf race fucking lati@s? Is there other stone masters beside him? Was it Yveltal itself?

2 story boss left. Wish me luck.

>>28276026

Just finish the game anon, and try not to spoil yourself. You've still got some twists to discover

>>28276026
Finish it anon, do it for your bf, I mean Partner

So if we ever go AM2R's road, what would we even add to make RT more enjoyable? Other than fixing the godawful recruiting system I mean really annoying shit, like having to escort them out, not being able to recruit last sage Pokemon, or being unable to recruit once you have 4 pokemon or if it would exceed size of 6*

We could borrow an idea from Gates and expand dungeons with outside areas. You're escaping from everyone at Mt. Blaze? Now you have also to travel on the pathways outside of the volcano! Could replace the midway point or something.

I mean, it's not like it's going to happen at least not in near future, but we can dream.

Also, R.I.P. AM2R. The dream was too good to last.

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>>28276629
>bf
>picking cool instead of cute! CUTE!

>>28277130
>R.I.P. AM2R
Did something else happen? I thought he was still putting out updates.

>>28277199

Not any more.

Guys help,i want to replay super again...
but i don't want to lose everything...but the postgame is a little boring...i don't know what to do...

>>28277327
buy another game or ermulate

>>28277327
Get homebrew shit and backup your save.

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>>28277189
>Having a female Partner

>>28277327
copy your save file on your pc and reset

>>28277394
isn't that hacking?
>>28277385
how i can emulate the game?

>>28277402
how i do that?

>>28277199
>>28277215
tl;dr = he got DMCA on his e-mail, so he couldn't ignore it anymore.

>>28277417
>isn't that hacking?
Yes
>how i can emulate the game?
By not having a shit computer and finding a fork of Citra that doesn't run like ass.

>>28277417
Might as well spoonfeed you: http://pan.baidu.com/s/1bpdvxhH
It now has circle/control mod button, which game intreprets as slow/weak input allowing eg. to sneak on DexNav Pokemon

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>mfw I read Serebii's info on Rescue Team
It's so bad it's not even funny

Why was it abandoned again?

>>28278437

What does it say?

>>28278457
1)It uses Japanese screenshots and Japanese names (unless it's a thing already existing like most of the TMs and evo items).
2)On the item list, it has two dummied out TMs.
3)"Mewtwo can pack a bit of a punch once provoked however it's first few hits are fairly weak."
4)"After battling through the 99 floors you will battle the Legendary Bird Lugia. Now he has some pretty powerful attacks and can Patalyze you so be warned "
5)"The higher the rank you are, the easier it will be for you to befriend wild Pokémon at the dungeons, especially the legendaries. "
There's probably more gems like these.

>>28277432
Read the OP.

What's the best MD game? I've been playing Explorers of Darkness as my first foray into these games and holy fuck I hate it. It clearly wants me to grind dungeon missions until I can do the main storyline, but it constantly shoves me back to my fucking bedroom after every single dungeon for this repetitive "AND THREE: SMILES GO FOR MILES!" shit, all the while reminding me I'm supposed to be doing the main story.

Does the newest game NOT do this shit?

>>28278605

Explorers of Sky is slightly better but stlil pretty much the same game. They're all like that.

No, maybe it's just not for you. If the core gameplay is fun but you just don't like the forced story setup, maybe you should check out Shiren the Wanderer.

>>28278605
Pick your poison:

Rescue Team: Worst system of getting new Pokemon in the entire PMD series, period. Connection Orb might have not been as fun, but at least it was smooth.
Explorers: This.
Gates: "Eh" gameplay, probably the shortest one of them all.
Super: Probably the closest to an actual roguelike difficulty- wise, plot goes places in the second half.

>>28278605
The most recent game (Super) forces you to progress the story, but I don't see why you think it's a problem. It doesn't force you to grind, you can just complete one or two easy missions and the story will progress regardless. I don't see your problem with it. Also, the other anon is right, try Shiren as well.

Why does every Mystery Dungeon intro quiz thinks I'm a fucking Mudkip?

>>28278642
>>28278692
I don't mind the story, and would be fine with it if the grind didn't bounce me back home every single time, when the design of the game fully expects me to grind. It just feels like it's designed to make me waste time. It's a bummer because I REALLY enjoy the gameplay and the dungeon crawl, but the game feels so counterintuitive when it comes to preparing me for story missions.

If I try to do the first story mission immediately, I get my ass kicked. So I go grind dungeon missions, but when I finish, the day is over and they remind me with great urgency that I'm supposed to be helping Azurill.

>>28278688
Hmm, thanks for this.

I'll check out Super and Shiren and see if they're what I'm looking for.

>>28278706
It's obviously because, deep inside, that's what you really are.

>>28278767

It shouldn't be as difficult as you're finding, I don't find that I need to grind until the postgame. Are you making good use of your items and moves?

>>28278767
>the design of the game fully expects me to grind
It doesn't. You can still play even when you think you are "underlevelled".

>>28278767
To elaborate: By "worst", I've meant it had a lot of flaws.

Imagine Explorers' system, but unpolished.

You can have only 4 Pokemon at the time and their size can't exceed 6*; if they die before you escort them (end dungeon/mission; reach midpoint in the few dungeons that have them or use Escape Orb) and you don't have a Reviver Seed, they're gone forever; midevo stages like Marill have negative recruit rates and most fully evolved Pokemon aren't recruitable at all, some Pokemon are really hard to even COME across (either deep in Lv. 1 dungeons or spawn rate so low Abra's more common)...

I am fairly sure I am forgetting some of the flaws that I should mention.

>>28278773
Makes sense, it's my least favorite starter and I hate myself.

>>28278798
>>28278807

Random dungeon Anorith were hitting me for 15-20 with normal attacks, when I have 40 HP. I could barely survive a single fight, let alone hope to make it to a boss. Am I basically expected to have a bag full of Oran Berries in the early game?

>>28278838

Throw seeds and use orbs from a distance. Use moves if they come close.

>>28278838
You recover HP every step you take, did you not notice? That's the kind of damage you can expect throughout the game because your health regenerates. You don't have to grind at all, just play normally.

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>>28278437
serebii pls

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>>28278905
>Joe actually considered this to be scripted part of the "cloud dungeon"
tapu keku

>>28278878
I've never even seen an orb. What do they do?

>>28278895
That is something I didn't notice. In the first couple of dungeons, everything hits for pickles, so I guess I wasn't noticing my HP. First time I went into the story dungeon, there were two Anorith in the first room. They got next to me, hit me a few times, and I died. So I just figured I wasn't strong enough for it yet.

Maybe I'll try it again.

>>28278905
This one is amazing

It is possible to get some non-starters for starters in next game?
I enjoy playing non-starters more honestly.
>>28278605
Explorers is the best.
Super is good,but it isn't the best,the story is good but it isn't as good as explorers story.
Connection orb is a good feature but they shouldn't remove the classic system for people who like it this way.
Some points of the game are soo dificult that it isn't fun just annoying.
Post-game is lacking.

That are the flaws of PSMD for me,great game but explorers is better in every way

>>28278986

Anything really. They can inflict status effects on all the enemies in a room, or they can give you buffs like speeding up your party or revealing the floor plan. They don't work against bosses though.

>>28278986
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Wonder_Orb

>>28278905
They once got the IQ skills wrong for Jirachi, saying it cant get Pierce Hurler+Nature Gifter.

>tfw you're a better pmd source than serebii

>>28279011
Didint have any trouble finishing Super, maybe it depends on your starter. My playthrough was super smooth, never died

>>28278767
Out of curiosity, what's your starting duo? I know you didn't pick Phanpy because it's not in T/D

>>28279709
Pikachu/Squirtle. Squirtle's basically been useless in anything with water due to Storm Drain sucking up his Bubble attacks, though...

>>28278986
I've been playing since red and blue and never grinded during the main story. The gameplay is different and the games can be unforgiving but you should be able to manage. Use your items wisely.

>>28279709
I have phanpy as a starter in sky and he's pretty good.

>>28278951
it might as well be

>>28279728
Pikchu is top tier you should be good. You can turn off moves in the menu if you don't want squirtle using bubbles

>>28279728
Pikachu gets Discharge eventually, and since it hits the whole room you'll be in a good spot once that happens. As for Squirtle, you'll just have to tough the first couple dungeons out. Although, you're early on, you still might want to drop the game and play Sky instead, assuming you're not on cart.

>>28279733
>phanpy
>good

If you count Reviser Seed Natural Gift as its only usable STAB good, maybe. Motherfucker gets no moves, and Earthquake murders your friend

>>28279787
He's at least better than Skitty...

>>28279909
Skitty has
>massive movepool
>every attack gets STAB

with just that its better than phanpy

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>>28279909
>skitty
>bad

Fake out/Doubleslap/Blizzard/Sing fucks everything up. It doesn't even matter if everything's Normal type, it's the only starter with STAB Blizzard.

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>>28279011
>Some points of the game are soo dificult that it isn't fun just annoying.
Just curious, but where did you have trouble? I was able to get through just fine as Treecko+Fennekin for my first run, and the second run was even easier even with shitmon custom starters, with the only recruit I used being Azurill.

>>28279984
the dungeon where you go with nuzleaf and archen i died like 12 times

>>28279745
But it isn't.

>>28280057
I don't really remember much about that dungeon, didn't have any trouble there. I think I just brought a bunch of wands and a few orbs with me, and got through it no problem. Much of the challenge in the game in general can be overcome by using your items at the right places.

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Just finished super so spoilers warning

first of all I think I'm in love with my partner. Holy shit, best partner ever. The best line was ''You bet you silly sphere''. The partner by herself (since my fennekin was female) makes the whole game worth it.

Game was super fun, I'll see what the post game looks like.

First of all I'm glad Yveltal was not bad, I'm tired of people calling pokemon evil.

Game was somewhat easy but it's probably because of my starter choice. I went with Treecko and Fennekin. With Dragonbreath, Energy ball, Ember, PSybeam, Flamethrower, I was never really in danger. It's the easiest PMD game I played but it was still really enjoyable. Never died beside boss fights (where I had reviver seed) and reviver seed were so common that my bank is full of them.

This game makes me want to play blue rescue team and sky again and I don't know why but now Treecko is my favorite pokemon. It's been like 5 years since my last PMD game. It's really the best spinoff serie in the whole franchise

>>28280057
It's the only slightly hard part in the whole game and I had fun with it.

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>>28280164
Super Partner is best partner indeed!

>>28280164
>I'm tired of people calling pokemon evil
>an evil type pokemon called eviltal

>>28280217
YVELTAL IS NOT EVIL

>>28280217
dark type is not ''evil'' evil, it's more like mischievous in japanese

>>28280173
It's the only part of the game where i dind't have any fun,it was really fustrating dying 12 times.

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>>28280164
>>28280204
Super Partner is cute! CUTE!
I thought the sphere scene was a lot funnier when using Jigglypuff as my partner instead of Fennekin

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>>28280164
While I didn't died much, the game made me sweet, every floor made me feel like I could faint.

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>TFW playing other, non-pokemon mystery dungeon games
>No variety in characters
>No variety in moves
>Awful/non-existent story

Did PMD spoil anyone else? I can't stand shit like Izuna at all.

>>28280414
>TFW playing other, pokemon non-myster dungeon games
>can't get attached to pokemon
>it's literally data without personality
>story sucks

Yes

>>28280414
I'm personally fine with other MD/roguelikes, but PMD did put me off from fully enjoying any non-MD Pokemon game.
>no variety in characters
I felt the opposite when playing Etrian. My cleric and dancer felt completely different from each other, for example, whereas in PMD almost everyone caps and is an offensive unit.
Shiren's also pretty fun from what I've played, but I miss playing as a dog

>>28280487
Didn't finish Etrian. It was really boring to me compared to PMD. The only good point is that it was really harder.

>>28280414
The only one I know about is Shiren, so let's see.

>No variety in characters
What do you mean? The monsters have a lot more variety in their design and behaviour at least.

>No variety in moves
Again, you get that by transforming into said monsters. It works better in Shiren because the monsters themselves aren't being adapted from something else.

>Awful/non-existent story
Shiren 3 has a lot of story and is structured in the same way PMD is. You may like that one more, but I have yet to play it so I don't know. It's going to be the next one though.

>Izuna
Not MD. It seems to be nice though, I'll try to play both of them one day. They don't seem to be as interesting as Shiren to me though, somehow.

I just want to say how much I love EoT/EoD. The music, the emotion, the story, the atmosphere, it's just my favourite game of all time.

>>28281387
Why not Sky? Have you just not played the third version?

>>28281466
not him but I havent played sky and EoT is in my top 3 games of all time.

Now that I'm done with super, I think I'll play sky.

>>28281522

Man, I just wonder what your reaction will be when you play "In the Future of Darkness"

>>28281522
Yes, please for the love of god, do. It's a HUGE improvement, fixes the weird/bad parts of EoT/EoD and the last extra story is so goddamn good.

>>28281466
I don't own a physical copy of Sky. I downloaded a ROM of it and I'm planning on playing through all the special episodes. Btw, do you need to unlock them by completing the main game?

>>28281617
Fairly certain that there's an Action Replay code that unlocks all of them, so if that's the only thing you want to do, you can just use that cheat.

>>28281617
You do unlock them by beating the main game, but...
>On emulator

Man, that's kind of a disservice to it. Emulators are harder to put your full attention to than handhelds and are way easier to get distracted from. I'd play it on DS if I were you. Hell, get a flashcart so you can play all the DS games for free.

>>28281617

Yes.

>>28281599

> the last extra story is so goddamn good.
The ending is cheap. That was the one chance they had to not do this shit.

>>28281667
Ah that would be nice.

>>28281671
Getting a flash cart is kind of difficult here, and I played EoT on my DS so I enjoyed most of the experience on the DS.

Is there any story-related post game content in EoT?

>>28281677
Well, duh. But it was still sad as hell.

>>28281803

I'm just going to stick with my headcanon and say it ended at the fade to black at the sunrise.

>>28281784
More dungeons. I'd definitely play through it, it's a very polished EoT, you'll certainly enjoy yourself and there's a lot of new stuff you didn't even know you'd need but are all very helpful.

>>28281784
There's a lot of postgame content in Explorers. The only thing Sky adds is the Shaymin Village arc which felt like annoying filler

>>28281868

But anon, you got the best feature in the whole game for doing it.

>>28281836
Thanks. I will look into it.

How are the post-EoS PMD games btw? I play only for the story, so if the story is crap it's a pass for me.

>>28281886

There's the Wiiware things. I don't know about those.

There's Gates to Infinity. That's a pretty good story, but the gameplay takes a really bad plunge.

Super has a similar story to Gates, but a bit worse. Still, it's not bad and the gameplay is up to scratch. Also, the final twist will fuck you up.

>>28281868
>which felt like annoying filler
How come?

>>28281886
AS came out before Sky, but I guess you don't know about it. The story is almost non-existant and it's only available in Japanese.
Gates to Infinity has bad gameplay and a good story. People used to think it also had a bad story, but now somehow the general opinion seems to have changed to it being the best one. I don't know what happened. It has the best characters so far at least, and I guess the execution itself is good as well.

>>28281924
>Super has a similar story to Gates
Only the last part is, and it's pretty much just a bunch of references. It's still different enough. You could say the same about the middle part being literally just the guild from Explorers.
Super has great gameplay and great story, but you'll find a lot of people disagreeing with this.

>>28281542
>>28281599
As soon as I get back home I'm gonna start sky, bought it a few months ago but never played it.

My problem is PMD are so fun I always end up stopping playing other pokemon games.


Got a question for you guys, Is blue as fun as I remember it to be? I really really REALLY liked it as a child and I can't remember the story beside the fact that you run away for a reason I can't remember. Please don't spoil me I really want to play it again but I don't want to ruin my childhood memory. Should I buy it again? (I don't like emulating, I like keeping the games I buy, especially pokemon games since I always 100% them). I liked the fact that you could visit pokemon in their own little island. If the post-game/gameplay is not worth it, I won't buy it and I'll just emulate for the story.

I also have GtI (never finished it, I'll probably start over) but I don't really enjoy it so I'll probably play it after sky and blue.

>>28282126

Blue is OK. I find it's a bit dated compared to Sky, but it's still good. I think your nostalgia will keep it holding together for you.

>>28282126
Blue is great, trust me. Especially the postgame, it's fucking huge. There's just a certain feeling about blue that really sucks you in, I can't explain it.

>>28282171
>>28282208
Ok gonna buy it again. Thanks guys

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>Lucario rank

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>>28282242
What's your favorite pokemon, anyways? I like how in Blue you can essentially turn any old pokemon into the main character after the credits.

>>28282126
>Is blue as fun as I remember it to be?
Yes. It has a bunch of problems Sky has fixed, but its postgame is still unique in PMD.

>I really want to play it again but I don't want to ruin my childhood memory
Don't worry. It might be better if you played it before Sky though, since it would be easier to get used to its problems.

>Should I buy it again?
Do you still have the original copy?
Do you have a 3DS?

>If the post-game/gameplay is not worth it
It is. Particularly the postgame. Gameplay is just a slightly worse Sky.

>>28282286
I am >>28280164
so I don't know why but I realized today that Treecko is my (new?) favorite pokemon. Never used it before, not even in RSE back in the old days.

>>28282292
>Do you still have the original copy?
No, my brother sold it to buy drugs a few years ago, I can get it on amazon for like $20
>Do you have a 3DS?
Yes but it's not hacked and I don't want to hack it.

>>28282382
>my brother sold it to buy drugs a few years ago
what

>I don't want to hack it
Why? You're missing a lot of stuff.

>>28282382
Evolving doesn't really have a point in pmd as a whole, and Sceptile doesn't learn any must haves in Blue i dont think. Bullet Seed/Absorb/Wide Slash/filler is more than enough, i'd think. So don't feel forced to evolve.

>>28282286
Favourite = obssesive fanboy? then i don't have a favourite pokemon
Favourite = Thinking them have a good desing or they're cute: goomy or shinx.

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>>28282449
I wish Chespin had bullet seed in Super

>>28282489
At least it gets Pin Missile, which is decent enough

>>28282440
>what
He had drug problems when we were teenagers and stole most of my ds games, gba games and gb games from my childhood to sell them. I had to rebuild my pokemon games collection from scratch.

>Why?
I'm not against it. I just like to keep my things vanilla. I never customize things other than what's made available by the company. I know it's kinda dumb but there's no reason. I am not against piracy tho.

>>28282449
I like the whole line, it's not really a problem.

>>28282505
but we could be MORE broken

>>28282476
>Favourite = obssesive fanboy? then i don't have a favourite pokemon
Oh thank god, this general has too many of those

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>>28282265
>A rank given to the greatest hero and explorer
>One who could defeat any foe
>Statues were made in his glory, along with his partner

>>28282606
Was this fucker the first mention of Lucario in the series as a whole?

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>>28282606
>>One who could defeat any foe
Lucario is pretty strong.

But is there a pokémon that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Drifblim? Let alone defeat him? And I’m not talking about Aftermath Drifblim. I’m not talking item holding Drifblim either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Ominous Wind Drifblim. I'm not even talking about Drifblim at max stats. I'm talking about PMD Drifblim with the Minimize buffs and Unburden (with no held item and being capable of both Gust and Shadow Ball), at quadruple speed from Unburden Ominous Wind, equipped with his Breeze Scarf, a Draft Ring, control of the IQ Skills and Quick Striker for a quad hitting normal attack, with stat drinks and Life Seeds implanted in him so he has 999 HP and 255 in all stats and can perform Ominous Wind spam while being an expert in shrinking and evading attacks, while also having an immunity to Electric and Ghost attacks from the Sky and Nether Globes, and also being permanently at double speed due to the Sky Gem, and having every beneficial swap item in the Treasure Bag for a grand stat total of 275 Attack, 269 Defense, 295 Special Attack, and 281 Special Defense, after using Ominous Wind enough to hit +10 to Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense.

>>28282724
Psych Up Watchog

>>28282604
Really? Haven't seen much of them.

>>28282530
That sounds awful.

>I'm not against it. I just like to keep my things vanilla. I never customize things other than what's made available by the company. I know it's kinda dumb but there's no reason. I am not against piracy tho.
I understand what you mean. I wanted another Wii just for it because I wanted to have an unmodded one, I never could explain why. I eventually gave up though, buying another Wii would have been pointless really.

>>28282650
In the videogames, yes. In general, nah.

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>>28281996
>Adventure Squad came out before Sky
I am fairly sure it's the other way around.
>>28282724
Articuno with similar stats.

Sheer Cold + Mind Reader = rip drifblim

>>28283388
do sheer cold+mind reader works on bosses?

>>28283388
>I am fairly sure it's the other way around.
You're right. I just got confused.

>>28283388
>sheer cold from across the room

>>28283439
I am not sure; but I don't know any reasons why it shouldn't. Articuno's like the only guy to have OHKO move on top of a move that ensures a hit other than Smeargle but Smeargle doesn't count

Did Gates/Super nerf OHKOs? IIRC Older games just have them hit like once in a blue moon, regardless of whether you are lower level than the enemy or not.

>>28283494
not sure
some dick ass vanilluxe did hit me with sheer cold the other day though

In super, do you have to buy passes every time you travel or are they a one time buy?

>>28283571
Just the first time.

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>>28282724
>tfw you realize this could potentially appear in Purity Forest if it were to exist
can anyone even survive parasect + drifblim combo

>>28283597
>enter a room
>monster house
>parasect and drifblim spawn in next to you
>along with a few more in the room

You're fucked.

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>tfw i want PMD pixelart back even though PMD will probably never be 2d again