Hello /vp/
I was wondering, if you'd take all the highest stats from every type (i.e. Blissey's HP, mewtwo's attack) and combine them into one single pokemon, which type would then come out as the strongest in the end.
So in the autistic spirit of /vp/, I found out in the most convoluted and time consuming way possible.
I can now present all 18 types, where the highest stats of every type has been combined into 18 pokemon that represent the best each type has to offer.
Rules:
>Legendaries, Megas, and primals are allowed
>Dual types are not restricted to one type
>Arceus is only counted as a normal type.
Starting at the bottom is the only type to suffer from having 0 legendaries and very few megas to help boost it's stats, poison
17th place goes to grass, due to lack of real powerhouses.
16th, electric.
mainly due to absence of bulk
wow that's autistic
i love it
15th, Dark.
Would've been down there with poison if not for Hoopa U and Mega Tyranitar
>>28208321
Not sure what anyone would do with this information but at least it exists now.
>>28208391
Thank you.
14th, Fairy. Did fairly well until speed.
don't know why other anons are being weenies, i think the information is interesting
13th, fighting. Lacks defenses. Only 1 point above fairy
>>28208403
me neither.
>>28208441
I thought so too.
12th is Fire. well rounded high stats except HP.
Psychic is the strongest!
if dragon is top 3 i will post nudes of my sister
>>28208460
11th. Steel.
Personally I thought it would be higher up, but the low speed and HP ruins it.
I'll just assume Psychic is #1 because Deoxys formes.
this is interesting
>>28208468
You'd better.
>>28208321
>mega venusaur has better defense
10th, Ghost
Ghost breaks into the top 10, and has no real weakness. it's just not extreme enough.
now assume these behemoths fight
what would best team be
>>28208505
you're right, i must have missed him. It still leaves them in last though. I will update the pic later.
9th, Ground
enter the primals. Wouldn't be so high if not for groudon.
dragon
HP: Giratina 150
Atk: Mega Fug 180
Def: Mega Salamance 130
SpA: Mega Fug 180
Spd: Goodra 150
Spe: Mega Sceptile 145
Total: 935
8th: dragon.
Surprised? I was. Thought it would be top 3 easily
>>28208321
Poor Poison.
I DO wish there were more Poison types out there that were viable. Poison is a fantastic defensive typing, but there aren't enough strong Pokemon with it. I do hope Sun and Moon have a Poison type legendary (that is viable)
>>28208414
And people say is overpowered
>>28208578
damn son i dodged a bullet there
>>28208567
Let OP post thanks
7th: Normal
This is purely down to blissey
Only 5 higher than dragons though.
>>28208578
I'm guessing Normal is top 3 because of Blissey, Gigas, and Slaking
>>28208591
The type itself is. It's just that most besides Xerneas are shitmons. It's like the opposite of Psychic.
>>28208609
>>28208616
well fug
>>28208609
6th: Flying
>>28208608
>Let OP post thanks
>>28208321
>>28208637
Bug next right?
>>28208637
top 5 now!
5th: Water
If only there had been a single really fast water type out there... Still, way better than the other starter types
>>28208584
I played mono-poison for a week in showdown last month and i fucking destroyed everything
it has everything you want from special sweeper to amazing walls to kill common types like water or flying
shuckle is gonna boost rock/bug a lot
>>28208654
I doubt ANYONE would've outright guessed the top 4. except the obvious
4th is Ice, the type everyone wants buffed
calling it now, bug will win. massive defenses from shuckle and huge speed from ninjask. I think Vespiquen has good HP too.
>>28208689
jesus christ all those wasted potentials
>>28208689
Psychic number one!
3rd: Bug.
Blew my mind that it beats dragon, water, and steel. Long live shuckle.
>>28208694
>I think Vespiquen has good HP too.
70 HP bro
>>28208694
Psychic wins because Deoxys. Watch.
>>28208642
go back to your own board mark
>>28208689
These stats have nothing to do with usability of individual mon's, though. You don't get the best stat from each when actually playing.
>>28208714
Go shuckle
>>28208721
it does not.
it's second though, thanks to deoxys.
>>28208714
>86 hp
>>28208714
Based Shuckle
>86 HP
wew
>>28208689
>>28208714
>fifty point difference
===POWER GAP===
>>28208714
Well, you know what they say: specialization is for insects.
>>28208689
>Regice
Keep posting, my autism is loving that useless shit.
>>28208714
>that hp
Pitiful
ROCK WINS
>>28208578
wow, i'm honestly shocked mega sceptile is the fastest dragon
>>28208736
Long live shuckle!
>>28208736
I think you mixed up the mewtwos
who will win the great autism type contest
>>28208736
Oh no, i've done the math wrong!
I've added an extra 100 to rock type.
My mistake. Psychic wins after all.
ROCK ANON IS GONNA FREAK
where is ROCK MAN MASTER OF ROCKS when we need him
>>28208761
Aerodactyl pushes it over, all rock types lack is speed but M-Aero has one of the highest speed stats.
>>28208777
Kek
ROCK
O
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K
>>28208777
Welp.
Not really surprising after all.
>>28208721
>Deoxys
Shit.
>>28208777
Ayy
YOSH
STEALTH ROCK
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>>28208726
What does this actually mean though
>>28208777
W-woah
>>28208777
Checked. Psychic too op pls nerf
>4 of the worst types in the games have the highest totals
welp
>>28208777
Here's rock. It's in second, which is still impressive.
Great Job OP, this is actually the only quality thread I've seen in this board for weeks aside from showderp
>>28208777
Add 50% of the highest SpDef due to sandstorms, kek.
IF YOU SMELL
WHAT THE ROCK
IS COOKING
Post the rock one already.
>>28208777
>damn near the shittiest type in the game
>wins anyway
Impressive.
>>28208460
Speed doesn't seem that hot either.
>>28208818
OP WHYH
>>28208823
>Showderp
>quality
kek
What about lowest? I'm guessing Bug wins due to Shedinja? Grass because of Sunkern? Normal because Happiny?
>Rock type cucked
based psychic type, best type since gen 1
This was neat. Thanks, OP
>>28208818
Ban Shuckle holy shit
so really this is telling you which types tend to have mons with one extreme stat, rather than being well rounded
pretty cool thread OP
Now what I'd love to see is these charts with Legendaries not counted. I imagine that's what's skewing so many of these results, especially with Psychic.
>>28208888
Nice quads
>>28208858
That's for someone else to do.
this took several hours to make.
Here's poison updated. It's still in last place
>>28208858
Now I need to know this.
not op, but if you do this with all Pokemon you get a spread of 255/190/230/194/230/180 BST 1279
>Psychic
>Rock
>Bug
obviously.
Psychic combines OPmons like MMewXY with the specializations of Deoxys
Rock and Bug both have Shuckle for 460 defenses alone. Rock has slow as dirt but hits like a truck Rampardos and MAero to pick up the slack on the speed whereas Bug has MHera and Ninjask
Dragon was never a contender for the top spot because they're all too well-rounded, even with a spike from every Mega they have.
>>28208414
Doesn't Mega Garde have 165 SpA?
>>28208893
Shuckle wins everytime
How do you make those BST images?
Okay, okay, so let's take this a step further.
Each Type-mon can learn every move of its type, but no other moves. Each gets Adaptability as its ability.
Which one is most useful competitively if you can only have one? What's the best team if you can have six?
>>28208858
rock because shuckle sadly
>>28208920
I'll get on it right away
>>28208898
Amoonguss for HP.
>>28208853
>reddit character image
Who would have guessed.
>>28208954
what tools are you using for this? veekun seems like the obvious choice?
>>28208321
Thanks for the thread OP! I love this kind of trivia and just wanna throw my appreciation out there for sharing this, but if your autism is anything like mine you probably would've enjoyed doing it for yourself anyways
>>28208963
Picked up from /vp/ course you would know a reddit image when you see it.
>>28208442
That's a surprisingly high Sp. Atk, considering the lack of special attackers.
>>28208736
1 0 9 4
>>28208920
here's fairy updated. nudges out fighting.
>>28208979
paint
>>28208959
Thanks, getting on it.
>>28208995
you're welcome.
>psychic is just mewtwo+deoxys and wobbufet's hp
>>28208736
deoxys-d has 160 def, not 180
Now do it for each generation of Pokemon.
>>28208858
My guess would be
1. Bug (Shedinja, Shuckle, larval shitmons)
2. Normal (Happiny)
3. Rock (Shuckle)
4. Ghost (Shedinja and lots of minmaxing)
5. Grass
6. Water (just because there are so many)
7. Fairy (babies)
8. Flying
9. Electric
10. Fighting
11. Ground
12. Poison
13. Psychic
14. Ice (generally an endgame type)
15. Dark
16. Which type did I forget? Kek
17. Steel (less prevos than most types since it tends to be gained upon evolving; generally an endgame type)
18. Dragon (same as above with less minmaxing)
What kind of bug do you think they could make that would have high HP? They like to give high HP to really fat things. Anything come to mind?
>>28209062
This
>>28208736
Psychic is still #1 but Deo-D has 160 defense, not 180. And Mewtwo X & Y are in the wrong spots.
>>28209071
You forgot fire somehow.
>>28209060
>>28209088
Mega Slowbro has 180 defence.
>>28209060
>>28209088
you're right, it should say Mega Slowbro
EVERYONE!
After some help from you, it seems poison is no longer the worst. It's actually 2 points above grass!
>>28209111
>defence
go back to fuck alomomolas
>>28209071
Steel has to deal with Ferroseed and Shieldon and Bronzor though.
"We hate poison types, and any fans of poison-typed pokemon. Please enjoy being neglected." -Jameson Gamefreak
>>28209122
>grass
>worst
All is right the in world again.
>>28209122
>grass is worst
legit
>>28209079
a cockroach?
Doesn't M-beedrill have the highest poison speed?
>>28209122
Dragalge has 122 SpDef
>>28209122
Speed: 145, Mega Beedrill
SpDef: 123, Dragalge
835, overtakes Electric as well
>>28208858
Steel
HP: 25 (magnemite)
AT: 24 (bronzor)
DF: 50 (aegislash)
SA: 24 (bronzor, ferroseed)
SD: 37 (honedge)
SP: 10 (ferroseed)
BST: 170
Can you go lower?
>>28209225
Bug: 1(Shedinja)/10(Shuckle)/30(Weedle)/10(Shuckle)/20(Weedle)/5(Shuckle
Blistering total of 76
>>28209225
Bug
HP: 1 (shedinja)
AT: 10 (shuckle)
DF: 30 (ledyba)
SA: 10 (shuckle)
SD: 20 (weedle, caterpie)
SP: 5 (shuckle)
76
>>28208414
>>28208478
You didnt say highest base stats you said highest stats and you include mega's but you fail to include mega mawile who's attack stat reaches higher than any other pokemon's attack in the game.
Congrats
>>28209225
Normal
HP: 30 (rattata)
AT: 5 (happiny, chansey)
DF: 5 (happiny, chansey)
SA: 15 (happiny)
SD: 20 (igglybuff)
SP: 5 (munchlax)
total: 80
>>28209212
>>28209183
thank you.
I have comprised everything into this eyesore.
It's 4am now though, so I think I'll go to sleep knowing i need to pay more attention to poison types, and that grass is forever the worst type.
Good night /vp/
>>28209342
>Still has poison at 807
>>28209225
Water
HP: 20 (magikarp, feebas)
AT: 10 (magikarp)
DF: 20 (carvanha, feebas)
SA: 10 (feebas)
SD: 20 (feebas, magikarp)
SP: 15 (wooper, slowpoke)
total: 95
Honestly thought this would be lower
>>28209342
YOU FORGOT MEGA MAWILE!!!!
>>28208858
>>28209225
Ooh, sounds like fun.
Here's Water.
HP: 20 (Magikarp, Feebas)
ATK: 10 (Magikarp)
DEF: 20 (Carvanha, Feebas)
SPA: 10 (Feebas)
SPD: 20 (Magikarp, Carvanha)
SPE: 15 (Slowpoke, Wooper)
Total: 95
>>28209342
Thanks, opee! It was fun!
>>28209306
Obviously OP isn't including abilities, just base stats, you fucking idiot.
>>28209225
>Can you go lower?
Rock
HP: 20 (shuckle)
AT: 10 (shuckle)
DF: 40 (cranidos)
SA: 10 (shuckle/bonsly)
SD: 25 (roggenrola)
SP: 5 (shuckle)
110 total, surprisingly okay
>>28209388
abilities are not part of a pokémon's stats, retardo
>>28209375
I forgot to save after updating it.
>>28209388
It's pretty obvious i was talking about base stats.
>>28208478
I'm surprised at Steel's HP. I guess GF considers flesh as HP?
>>28208578
Come SM, Dragon will be a lot higher. Perfect Zygarde has like 200something HP.
>>28209307
>>28209271
Ground
HP: 10 (diglett)
AT: 40 (baltoy)
DF: 25 (diglett)
SA: 20 (sandshrew)
SD: 25 (wooper)
SP: 10 (trapinch)
130 total
Steel seems king so far my dude
And Psychic, because I was sniped.
HP: 20 (Mime Jr.)
ATK: 20 (Abra)
DEF: 15 (Abra, Smoochum)
SPA: 48 (Wynaut)
SPD: 20 (Deoxys-Attack)
SPE: 15 (Slowpoke
Total: 138
>>28209451
but I digress, dragon.
HP: 40 (noibat)
AT: 30 (noibat)
DF: 35 (noibat, goomy)
SA: 30 (axew)
SD: 30 (bagon)
SP: 38 (denio)
Total: 203
>Dragons minimums still have a higher bst than magikarp
>>28209342
No, thank you op.
>>28209225
Ghost
HP: 1 (Shedinja)
AT: 30 (Yamask)
DF: 30 (Gastly)
SA: 30 (Shedinja)
SD: 30 (Shedinja)
SP: 20 (Litwick)
141 total
>>28209492
Dark
HP: 35 (poochyena)
AT: 50 (purrlion)prize for highest minimum stat right here.
DF: 20 (carvanha)
SA: 30 (poochyena)
SD: 20 (carvanha)
SP: 20 (mega sableye)
total: 175
Pretty high
>>28209225
Grass
HP: 30 (sunkern)
AT: 30 (sunkern)
DF: 30 (sunkern)
SA: 24 (ferroseed)
SD: 30 (sunkern)
SP: 10 (ferroseed)
Total: 154
Maybe I missed something but it looks like most Grass-types that aren't Sunkern are pretty balanced.
>>28209451
I mean, the obvious highest would be dragon, right?
HP: 40 (noibat)
AT: 30 (noibat)
DF: 35 (noibat, goomy)
SA: 30 (axew)
SD: 30 (bagon)
SP: 38 (deino)
BST: 203
And Fairy, because autism.
HP: 20 (Mime Jr.)
ATK: 20 (Togepi, Azurill)
DEF: 15 (Igglybuff)
SPA: 20 (Azurill)
SPD: 20 (Igglybuff)
SPE: 15 (Igglybuff, Cleffa)
Total: 110
>>28209567
Actually I forgot Cottonee's 27 attack. So the total's really 151.
>>28209225
>>28209403
>>28209451
>>28209492
>>28209503
>>28209567
>>28209576
Bug is the lowest with 76.
HP: 1 (Shedinja)
Attack: 10 (Shuckle)
Defense: 30 (Weedle)
Special Attack: 10 (Shuckle)
Special Defense: 20 (Weedle)
Speed: 5 (Shuckle)
>>28209492
>>28209576
ice
HP: 36 (vanillite)
AT: 30 (smoochum)
DF: 15 (smoochum)
SA: 30 (swinub)
SD: 30 (swinub)
SP: 25 (spheal)
BST: 166
I thought this would be higher for some reason.
>>28209604
And normal is the second lowest with 80. Thanks, baby pokemon.
HP: 30 (Rattata)
Attack: 5 (Happiny)
Defense: 5 (Happiny)
Special Attack: 15 (Happiny)
Special Defense: 20 (Igglybuff)
Speed: 5 (Munchlax)
>>28209079
Scolipede is a fatass.
Volcarona too.
>>28209630
Flying
HP: 30 (combee)
AT: 20 (ledyba)
DF: 30 (ledyba)
SA: 30 (starly, tailow, zubat)
SD: 30 (starly, tailow, pidove, wingull)
SP: 40 (vespiquen, togetic)
total: 180
I love it when fully evolved mons are in the lowest stats.
>>28209079
Vespiquen was about their only opportunity for it since honey is often associated with health, but they blew it.
One more for the road, Fighting
HP: 30 (Meditite)
AT: 35 (Tyrogue)
DF: 30 (Makuhita)
SA: 20 (Makuhita)
SD: 30 (Makuhita)
SP: 25 (Makuhita)
Total: 170, good work gen 3
>>28209079
Cockroach.
A hive Pokemon, or a Pokemon based on an Ant/Bee queen. (So Vespiquen, really...)
A Water Bear pokemon.
>>28209721
Poison
HP: 30 (gastly, venipede)
AT: 25 (kakuna)
DF: 30 (gastly, weedle)
SA: 15 (mega beedrill)
SD: 20 (weedle)
SP: 15 (foongus)
total: 135
>>28209786
Fire
HP: 38 (vulpix)
AT: 30 (litwick, darmanitan-Zen)
DF: 30 (houndour)
SA: 15 (darumaka)
SD: 40 (slugma)
SP: 20 (slugma, litwick, torkaoal, mega camerupt)
Total: 173
Fire's pretty high all things considered.
>>28209840
Electric
HP: 20 (pichu)
AT: 30 (voltorb)
DF: 15 (pichu)
SA: 35 (pichu)
SD: 32 (blitzle)
SP: 32 (stunfisk)
Total: 164
Pichu was a god damn mistake.
I'm guessing Tynamo, Magnemite, and Pikaclones will screw over Electric?
>>28209721
a big fat grub
think that miniboss in act II in diablo 2 or the big bad in starship troopers
Pretty sure all of them have been done now so in descending order.
>>28209492 Dragon (203)
>>28209721 Flying (180)
>>28209551 Dark (175)
>>28209840 Fire (173)
>>28209225 Steel (170)
>>28209728 Fighting (170)
>>28209630 Ice (166)
>>28209899 Electric (164)
>>28209567 Grass (154)
>>28209503 Ghost (141)
>>28209470 Psychic (138)
>>28209786 Poison (135)
>>28209451 Ground (130)
>>28209591 Fairy (110)
>>28209403 Rock (110)
>>28209382 Water (95)
>>28209307 Normal (80)
>>28209271 Bug (76)
>>28209968
Maybe Charjabug? Since they seem to want it to be usable in doubles.
>>28210029
>>28209592
It doesn't actually change anything but I made a slight mistake for Grass.
>>28209271
Now somehow find a way to make this OU.
>>28210029
Can't believe that Flying is so high up considering there's so many of them
>>28210110
Ability: Fated for OU
Always has the destiny bond status.
>>28210110
Ability: Stat Swap
When switched into battle, it automatically switches stats with its opponent.
>>28209306
you are a fucking moron
congrats
>Shuckle is the biggest part of both Bug and Rock being godlike at best and shit at worst
Wew lad.
Megas and Primals were a mistake.
>>28210255
Yeah, but they were fun mistakes at least.
>>28208321
wtf? i hate poison now
>>28208714
>86 HP
>Yanmega
Is that REALLY the best HP that the bug type has to offer? That's pretty sad, and I like bugs...
>>28210423
Volcarona at 85
Accelgor, heracross, and vivillon at 80
That's just sad
>>28208321
>>28209342
OP... you're one patient motherfucker. Thanks for taking the time to compile this information together. It resonates with the autism in us all. This was a great thread amongst the constent shit posting of late.
Sleep well brave wizard. Truly, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
>>28208321
nice man, thanks for the interesting thread
>>28209342
Thanks OP! Youur pointless but hard work is both interesting and appreciated
Thanks for factually proving that Grass type is the worst, OP. It stings, but now I can crusade for an all around grass type buff that much harder.
>>28209122
Doesn't mega beedrill have base 145 speed? that way you can give poison a bump.
>>28209406
Mega Audino has a base 126 defense for normal types
>>28208414
Mega Gardevoir has Sp.Atk 165
Now without legendaries plz
>>28208321
do for lowest stats now
For those who may not know, Showdown does actually have a search function that can organize pokemon via type, learned moves, highest stats,...tier if you're into that.
As soon as you go into team builder and "add pokemon," right under the search bar is a bar that lists Tier, Name, Types, Abilities, and then the Stats. They are intractable.
Wanna know the pokemon with the Highest Defense in the game? Click on the Def button.
Wanna know the which Water Type has the highest Special Attack? Click Types, apply the "Water Type" filter, and click the SpA button.
Wanna know which Fighting Type Pokemon can learn High Jump Kick, and which of those mons has the highest attack? Hit Types and apply the "Fighting" filter, Type "High Jump Kick" into the search bar and apply its respective filter, and click Atk.
Should make your organization of Highest Stat per Type much simpler.
Apply the respective "Type" filter and just click each stat.
>>28209406
List of Fixes that need to be applied
Audino takes place for normal type for highest def at base 126
Poison: Correct stat, wrong poke for SpD and Speed. It's Dragalge and Mega Beedrill respectively.
That's actually only it...assuming you don't wanna add in the pokemon that tied for some stats. For example, For Flying type both Lugia AND Ho-oh have a base 154 Special Defense. But that's just nit-picking at this point.
>>28214712
*Mega Audino.
woops.
>>28214539
You can also use Bulbapedia's Pokemon list for the same effect.
>>28214744
You can, but the UI isn't quite as intuitive.
>>28214839
Veekun is probably the best for something like this
>>28208321
This was actually a pretty interesting read. Nice job OP.
What are the average basestats for each type?
>>28215151
If you go on Bulbapedia and look at the page for each type, it will tell you.
>>28215272
Didn't know that. Thanks, kind anon
>>28209086What anime is this?
>>28209342
>Dragon
>Giratina is the only one without a Mega
>>28209342
>no Ice Megas have the highest stats
>>28214726
>>28214712
thanks
>>28214950
>>28214255
>>28214122
thank you.
>>28216353
As totally pointless as this was at least now we have the fun of looking forward to seeing if any new or Alolan Pokemon change anything
>>28208345
>tfw being a Grassfag is truly suffering
>>28216953
Fun fact. It's now 2 points behind poison
>>28209470
>Deoxys contributes to both the highest and the lowest stats of the Psychic type
this is pretty dank
>>28214744
>Using bulbapedia
pomf just go ok
>>28208724
>that form
I've never felt so triggered in my life
>>28208818
I knew it would be high because of rampy and shuckle alone, if only rock had pokemon with higher special attack or HP it would've won, it lost by less than 50 points
>>28216869
Yes, I expect 100% zygarde to have an impact.
And hopefully something will save grass and electric.
>>28217173
>diancie is a mixed attacker despite looking like a special attacker
>gigalith is a physical attacker despite the pokedex talking about firing energy
>aurorus is HP heavy instead of being pure special offense
>>28216353
I just ran some calcs because I was curious to see if the rock or psychic theoretical pokemon would tank better.
It was the rock one, by a minamalistic difference of 2%
>>28208321
that's some dedication, I'll be sure to check it out when I get home
great work, OP
>>28217375
>>28216353
Here is the finished version, with all mistakes taken care of.
>>28208321
>mega bedrill has 145 base speed
>went with crobat instead
?
>>28217470
>>28217430
Some mistakes were initially made but it's all been taken care of.
Genuinely good thread
>>28208898
>mega beedril is faster than crobat
>>28218827
>He didn't read the whole thread
good thread,bravo
>>28209079
Termite Queen, Bug/Ground.