Is GF even trying anymore?

>>28203505
Pokemon can be anything, I bet there's 10 anons on this board right now that will praise literal dog shit.

Alolan Krabby is cute.

>>28203530
That doesn't mean literal dog shit should be a pokémon.

no
should I break up with her?

>>28203505
Pokémon is short for Pocket monsters.

Pokémon can be anything and look like anything.

You lack imagination about Pokémon

>>28203505
That Crabrawler design is pretty fucking sweet.

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>>28203505
That krabby is adorable and I want it.

>>28203551

Pokémon can look anything.

Pokémon is short for Pocket monsters.

Monsters can look like anything.

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>>28203505
kys yourself

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>>28203505
I prefer the ones on the left.

>>28203602
underage harambe pls

>>28203505
add a human nose and hair to gen 7 krabby
make it fairy or dragon because it likes to eat pancakes

>>28203608
I prefer Kanto Crabrawler, and Gen7ified Crabby actually.

>>28203632
I wish I was underage honest to fucking god. One of my many wrong choices in life was talking to you.

>>28203530
>>28203551
But hear me out: Dogs are mammals, right? Right. And mammals except for the echidna and the platypus don't lay eggs, because they simply don't have a cloaca to do so. But dog Pokémon like Houndour and Lillipup actually do lay eggs. They don't have cloacas, so where do their eggs come from? From their butts, of course! And guess what also comes out from the butt? Shit! So, my theory is that Lillipup's, Houndour's, Arcanine's, etc, offsprings are literal dog shit Pokémon. If you breed a Stoutland, for example, its offspring will literally be dog shit, as dogs lack cloacas and lay eggs from the rear end.

>>28203505
I'm not sure what you're trying to say? top left looks better than that shitty top right fanart

Bottom right looks better than the shitty bottom left fanart

>tfw snippy will never be real

also does anyone else find it hilarious when a genwunner invariably uses updated, new gen pokemon art as opposed to the original?

>>28203505
Can't wait for Porn of the blue one

>>28203551
It worked for Digimon, why not Pokemon?

>>28203505
Gen 1 was too dull and half of them looked too much like literal animals


Newer gens are a colossal mess with too much going on

They can both learn from each other

>>28203505
Great, now i'm sexually attracted to coconut crabs

>>28203685
Although they look like mammals, Pokemon are still Pokemon and all female Pokemon (or ditto) lay eggs. Just like a duck and a penguin are both very different, they're still both birds and procreate as such.

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>>28203593
You're the kind of person that would unironically defend pic related

>>28203530
>Not wanting to beat other trainers using literal shit
I guess you could say you have shit taste

>>28203742
Digimon is also dead in the West.

>>28203830
I honestly don't see the problem.

>>28203505
WHY IS HER EYE HALF CLOSED
IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE

>>28203830
That's a literal gun

Make a Pokefied version and I'll defend it

>>28203875
>WHY IS HER EYE HALF CLOSED
>what is a swollen black eye

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>>28203875
>her
But anyway, it's supposed to look like a black eye, as if someone punched it. A very boxer-like injury.

>>28203875
>Her

She fell down some stairs.

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>>28203882

>>28203882
But pokémon doesn't have a set art direction. Anything can be a pokémon as long as GF calls it a pokémon.

>>28203875
BECAUSE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A BLACK EYE. LIKE A BOXER.

NITWIT

>>28203530
100% sure
The words "original" and "creative concept" would be used

You know people like to talk about how people who like later gens are contrarians but I can't think of anything more contrarian than praising Krabby as a pinnacle of Pokemon design. It's the blandest fucking crab ever. Crabrawler is actually interesting. If you want something like Krabby then go to a beach or go to a supermarket and get you a boring ass crab.

>>28203924
This is shit, it's just a fucking gun. God, gentwoers will defend anything, I swear.

>>28203530
But grimer was gen 1?

>>28203505
How does more cartoony = not trying?
I like it's design. Cartoony is marketable. A literal crab is not.

>>28203830
Is this Alolan Rattata?

>>28203935
A pokemon gun would most likely be steel/ghost, have eyes somewhere and evolve to a bigger gun

What you posted is just a gun

>>28203956
Krabby is alright, but don't you dare say a bad word about Kingler.
It might just be a regular ass crab, but it's a great looking regular ass crab.

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Jesus fuck, Game Freak
Where are all the details on the new pokemon?

>>28203530
Poison Touch/Poison Jab is killer on Muk, what are you on about?

>>28204001
I like its. Crown I guess.

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>>28203882
pokemon OC don't steel

>>28204032
Because there's a difference between a gun and a pokemon

I'd honestly have no problem with an actual gun pokemon but I'm not gonna pretend an actual gun is the same thing

>>28204032
There's no point it's a dumbass meme.

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>>28204032
There is no point to address. The image you posted is a joke image. If you really had a point, you'd show an image with a style that matches the image in the OP.

>>28203807
While true, that's what Gen 1 tried to refelect. A world where monsters you catch are somewhat realistic. I like a lot of the newer mons but Gen 7 is the epitome of cartoony shit so far.

>>28204001
Kingler is great, Krabby is a bit bland. I really wish GF would give the line access to Waterfall and a bit more bulk

>>28203882
Remoraid. Clawitzer. Take your pick.

>>28203505
All 4 look good.

>>28204074
I'd have a problem with a gun pokemon and I usually like object mons lol. Although we already have Remoraid so there's no need.

>>28203992
>just add cartoony eyes and a Ghost typing and it's ready to go
The worst part is that you're not joking.

that's truly a improvement.

>>28204100
I mean it's subjective but I'd rather catch cartoony monsters than boring ones. So many are just generic animals I can't pretend to like that. That being said Kanto isn't the worst about that, it's Johto. Johto will probably forever be the most boring region to me.

>>28204123
Well I like Honedge

>>28204137
There is no Pokemon that is an actual object, your argument has no basis

>>28204137
>i know i'll call it a meme
It's a literal meme. It's a joke image poking fun at leaks. If you think this image is to be taken seriously, you're a special kind of retarded.

>>28203505
You're right, OP. I wish Crabrawler was lumpy and poorly-drawn. That fixes everything!

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The artist's "gen 1" Crabrawler completely removes the personality of the original in making it look more "realistic".

On the other hand, the artist's "gen 7" Krabby removes everything appealing about the original.

Turns out maybe we can have both kinds of designs in the same series?

>>28204199
A genwunner would be against a gun Pokemon you faggot

Pokemon have an actual style even if it changes each gen

>>28203505
>nerfing the horn pompadour

I was with you until that. Kill yourself.

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well people be getting upset at pokemon designs

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>there are people
>in this thread
>that would unironically defend this

>>28203920
Underrated post

>>28204101
>wanting waterfall
>when you have Crabhammer
20 more power and increased crit ratio for 10% less accuracy sounds pretty good to me.

Why is pokemon the only franchise where the fanbase gets so incredibly autistic over the character design?

>>28204269
Wait, I forgot to mention that it's part Ghost, so it's perfectly fine!

>>28204137
I called it a meme because it's a meme. Posting a reddit tier picture doesn't constitute an argument. It barely makes sense as a quick laugh.

>>28204269
>>28204297
There is no hint of it being a ghost what so ever

>>28204319
It's clearly a possessed object, so ghost.

>>28204296
because character design is what draws people in
let's not pretend people check out pokémon for the deep mechanics or compelling story

>>28204296
It is most certainly not.

>>28204292
Kingler has Sheer Force, so Waterfall is not only more accurate, but also more powerful than Crabhammer

>>28203558
underrated post

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>>28204244
>It's not poking fun at leaks
>because I said so!
You're making a fool of yourself. You're actually saying that you believe someone made this image that looks like one of the Alola leaks of an actual gun and thought there was an argument behind it? Are you a bonobo ape in real life? Who taught you to type?

>>28204327
All Rotom forms are pocessed objects but you can tell it's a ghost, you cant with this

>>28204320
PokeMON are suppose to be MONsters
An object is not a monster, it needs to have some change to it to make it a monster

Just look at a lot of Japanese tales like the evil sandles

>>28204380
Klink is literally two gears with eyes.

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>>28204353
>>28204292
>mfw Crabhammer becomes compatible with Iron Fist out of nowhere.

>>28204327
>>28204319
>The possessed gun pokemon
>possessed by the spirit it last murdered, it now searches for the one who pulled the trigger.

>>28204397
Diglett is a bump with eyes and a nose.

>>28204397
Klink is fucking shit

>>28204418
>oh shit, I'm in a corner
>better make fun of a gen I pokémon!
You don't even see Diglett's whole body retard.

>>28203558
Topu Keko

The right side looks far better. The left is just way too simple looking.

3d pokemon was a mistake

>>28204448
I'm not >>28204418

I'm >>28204419

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>>28204429
>guys jokes have no implied point or meaning.
I didn't say point or meaning, I said argument. The point of this image is to say "look guys, leaks! Can you believe what gamefreak is putting out these days?". If anything, it's a stab at those who think all new Pokemon are one-dimensional. But no, for you, it's some super serious commentary on how Pokemon is stupid. Re-evaluate your life.

>>28204479
Well then, use Palossand as an example, remove the eyes and it's indistinguishable from a sand castle.

>>28204536
Which is why it has eyes

Also the towers function as arms

>>28203830
Make it possessed and part Ghost and I'll sign off on it.

>>28204402
neat!

>>28204551
>Which is why it has eyes
see >>28204269
>Also the towers function as arms
they still aren't changed the slightest, they look exactly like sandcastle towers

>>28203685
>>28203823
Arceus creates eggs out of thin air. You and Cynthia witness this in the HGSS Sinjho event.

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>>28204639
If you look at a still image of it standing sure

But if you look at pictures where it does something or video of it in battle they're clearly arms

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>>28204558
>these mental gymnastics
It's called thinking, try it sometime. Everything that the "Gun" image conveys is lost on you. It's humorous because the leaks have been so ridiculous that this is the extreme. It's not some propaganda to force your awful "Genwunners, amirite?" shitposting brigade. It's a joke image. It's a meme. Your logic is "Gumshoos face was posted on Trump? That means that Pokemon is pro-Trump!" Grow up, faggot.

>>28204756
6/10
does it have a tongue that comes out the barrel?

>>28203505
Alolan Krabby is too cartoony, but at the same time, normal Krabby is too lazy and boring.

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>>28204269
It's funny, because my buddy and I have had this in our shitty romhack for almost two years now.

>>28204722
So if the gun used the barrel as a mouth, would that make it perfectly fine?

>>28204756
I see nothing wrong with that

Of course it depends on how good it's animated

>>28204791
Yes

>>28203971
>>28204046
Sludge =/= Shit
Also, Grimer and Muk are a creative concept and are original in their respective series.

I like all 4 of those designs
Who is the artist?

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>>28204838
What's humorous is that you think anyone would take a floating gun seriously. As if anyone would believe that it's a new Pokemon. It's intentionally lazy since it doesn't try to remodel the gun into the likeness of a Pokemon, like OP's image. It's blatant enough that anyone but you can see it. It's not "making fun" of anyone, it's just pretending to be a leak. Very obviously, in fact. That's why I'm surprised that you think it's worthy of argument. It doesn't make fun of newer Pokemon fans because it's so blatant. Think about it a little.

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>>28203830
>1911

>>28204876

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>>28203505
I really like Alolan Krabby and Kanto Crabrawler.

>>28203830
>he doesn't like Bangbang

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>>28203505
maybe

>>28203972
You like its design because you're a homosexual.

>>28204269
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED

>>28204100
You and the faggots like OP should realize that the "somewhat realistic style" is limited exclusively to gen and got abandoned 17 years ago when gen 2 was introduced.

Just fucking let it go already, christ.

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>this thread

>>28206232
That's probably why pokémon has never reached the same level of popularity since.
The closest is the current GO hype and it uses gen I designs too.

>>28206238
>not wanting a gunmon

>>28205165
What shit taste in guns you have.
45 stronk

>>28204225
>The artist's "gen 1" Crabrawler completely removes the personality of the original in making it look more "realistic".
No it doesn't, it still looks distinctively exotic/fantastic while retaining some realism. I don't dislike the new pokémon, but top right is better than top left and closer to the original pokémon. If you can't see this then you're as bad as a genwunner.

>>28206308
>what is Scrafty

The art style of anime as a whole has changed since the 90's. Congratulations, you figured it out.
Kill yourself, you'll never be a child again.

>gen 1 designs are somewhat realistic
I laughed for a very long time at this. I'm still laughing.

>>28205985
honestly, duckberg and quackstack are the shit

I wish they were real

>>28204225
Yeah, nah. It doesn't lose any personality from being in an earlier art style. All they really did was make it seem more rough, like it was an actual crab shell. At best you could argue that they ruined the 'hair' and mouth, but that's not exactly an insurmountable fix.

There's a place for each type of design, but a rough & tumble crab boxer should look more rough.

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>>28204068
I don't see a problem here

That Krabby is fucking adorable.

>>28203505
fuck your father

Wow for once one of these "what if Pokemon was deskgned in another gen" images that aren't pure shit on both sides

>>28206361
>criticizing a 1911 is shitting on 45ACP

Dumb fuddposter

>>28203972
Because the Crabrawler on the right looks like a literal crab to you, faggot?
You GF fanboys are really becoming more and more pathetic

>>28203505
Crabrawler looks infinitely better as a stylized drawing with a theme, whereas Crabby looks much better as a realistic drawing without one.

I hope this is the point you're trying to make

>>28203830
Put googly eyes on it, and I will unironically love it.

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>>28205165
>probably likes M9s
Fucking disgusting

>>28203685
Cloacas have nothing to do with having to lay eggs. The eggs would just come out of the vagina. The eggs come from the reproductive tract of the cloaca anyway.

>>28203530
agreed 100%

Crabrawler is the best new poke theyve shown so far

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>>28211537
All I'm seeing here is the same eye slapped across multiple designs in both scenarios, however the "now" section at least has variations.

>>28205985
wardroab is unironically something they would release now

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>>28211537
>white pupils

why do they keep doing this

>>28211537
I fuc*ing hate Helioptile's eyes

>>28205985
Lost my shit at wowoman and threef. The rest of it put me in orbit

>>28203729
Eh, top right isn't all that bad

Issue is that it was basically the only one where they really even got remotely close, and everything was basically, "TRY TO MAKE THINGS LOOK GOOD WITH GEN I AND BAD WITH LATER GENS!" which they fucked up even that part

Seriously, the Pikipek one was trash. And the Zorua one was even worse than trash

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Not going to lie, like the left better. I will say maybe it's just me but the black eye looks better on the actual crabrawler. I really do like both though, from what has been shown so far crabrawler is looking like a potential party member on my team.

Why do people act like simplistic pokemon never existed? Look at Butterfree, Jigglypuff or pretty much any of the pink pokemon and they're all pretty simple. They definitely do it a lot more often now, and that kanto crabrawler does look pretty sick but don't act like the new pokemon don't fit with the rest.

The "is game freak even trying" argument has existed since gen two, no one really cares to appreciate the fact that anything can be a Pokemon and that these games aren't aimed towards so called "fans" that cant appreciate what they do. If you don't like the game make your own.

>>28211537
Traignle eyes were the most shit thing about Gen I designs. The circle eyes look better.

>>28203558
Depends, what's she like anon?

Yeah, because when I look at Diglett, I think "mole", and not "puppet with bead eyes"

Ice yourself, dicknuts.

>>28203505
Wut?

>>28211630
hmmm i wonder why

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>>28203505
>all these denialfag responses
Face it Crabrawler in gen 1 style looks infinitely better than that piece of shit on the top left.

>>28203573
the ones on the right actually look like monsters

>>28203830
Alolan remoraid confirmed?

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>>28203505
Why does that fixed Crabrawler look so much better? Holy shit

>>28215719
Not really. It loses its silhouette and fucks up the colors.

>>28203505
No. /thread

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>>28211537
So many people shit on the "anime" eyes on the left even despite them having good depth and shading. The eyes on the right look like googly eye stickers with zero depth.

>>28215848
>it loses its cartonnish uglyness and terrible flashy color scheme

How is that bad?

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>>28203505
Boxing loves are supposed to be round, even in gen 1

>>28203505
Crabrawler is a shit design that can be improved by literally anything as shown in that pic.
Crabby is a great design that's hard to ruin, that qt thing on the left could easily pass as a crabby pre-evo.

>>28216195
Cool story bro
But Crabrawler is supposed to have pincers that imitate boxing gloves, not literal ones

>>28216219
And imitating them would mean actually resembling their distinct rounded shape in the slightest. Not even real crab claws are as needlessly lumpy as the ones in the OP

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>>28216276
real crabs aren't monsters you knobhead

>>28216301
so if it's not real then there's no reason why it shouldn't be allowed to look cartoonish

>>28203505
Holy shit, I would train the shit out of that watercolor Crabrawler. Excellent design, 10/10, would box Poppmaid for.

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>>28216214
>>28215719
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

>>28216628
I can't wait until September 30th. The second game is coming out.

>>28216153
The silhouette lacks expression and variance like actual Crabrawler. The Kanto Crablawer has these 2 stubby horns instead of a long, slender crest. The artist should have kept this aspect. The washed-out colors are also badly done, and changing part of the arm purple instead of cream colored ruins the color distribution.
Alolan Krabby is also bad looking for not preserving OG Krabby's silhouette.

>>28205985
Don't fucking tell me you faggots wouldn't raise a Beeeeee

>>28216723
It's not Alolan Krabby
It's how Krabby would have been if it appeared in Gen 6
Same for Crabrawler, it's how much better it'd have been if made in Gen 1

>>28216214
>Crabby is a great design that's hard to ruin, that qt thing on the left could easily pass as a crabby pre-evo.
This
It a cute, would pet

I usually think these kinds of threads are retarded but to be fair the one on the top right looks badass

>>28216628
do you post this on every thread

>>28217646
But it doesn't look better. Like I said, the artist ruined the silhouette and color scheme on Kanto Crabrawler. They should keep the sections of the arm cream, and make the horns thinner and longer. That way, it keeps the genwun style while preserving the stronger Gen 7 form.

>>28204787
I want Shootie

What's the hack?

gen 1 cabrawler looks like it would beat gen 7 cabrawlers ass. gen 1 cabrawler looks like it could actually be a strong pokemon

I just want them to make actual good designs for pokemon that are intended to be good. If they want to make uninspired blobs then do it for shitmons only.

I unironically got excited because I thought the one on the right was the evolved form of the one on the left. I'm fucking stupid and sad now.

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>>28203830
Nintendo beat them to it and octillery ain't too shabby.

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>ones on the right
Bland color, nothing really pops or makes it memorable. Weird eyes with a one pixel wide pupil that makes it look like it just shit it's pants. Oversized claws that would make it hard for the thing to walk. Weird out of place spikes on the mouth.
>ones on the left
Colorful and slightly cartoony, obviously meant to appeal to the younger demographic that is their target audience. The arms connect to the claws better, instead of leaving awkward black space, and you can clearly see that Crabrawler's are styled after boxing gloves. The face is more detailed, looking like it has a black eye instead of just being really smug.

Whine harder nostalgiafags, your genwun designs were shit.

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>>28216195
>Boxing loves
Either take your time making a post, or stop posting on your fucking phone.

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>>28211537

>>28203830
What's it's stats?

>>28218399
Left crab's eyes are barely bigger.
Right's whole body is bigger so the claws are proportionate. Left's are just as impractical for movement, especially with its shitty legs.
What black space are you even talking about? Either way the left isn't perfectly drawn, but it gets the point across that these overly geometric low detail new designs look more like toys than creatures. It's excusable for object Pokemon, but animals shouldn't look like objects.
You can appeal to kids without treating them like retards. It's what older gens did.

>>28211537
>Cherrypicking
Shiftry
Salamence
Latios
Rhyperior
Stoutland
Gurrdurr
Zoroark

What's even worse, you're ignoring the majority of Gen I that lacks the Toriyama eyes. If anything, the design teams onward weren't trying to ape Toriyama, or Sugimori grew as an artist and illustrator.

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>>28218616
>what black space are you talking about
Pic related, it makes it look like the claws are just floating. And in what way are more cartoony designs that appeal to kids treating them like retards?

>>28218750
You are a moron.

Go look closely at a crab or lobster.
I'll bet you live in flyoverville, USA.

>>28205985
Flatpak and Wardroab are s!ck

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>>28218750
Because they think kids prefer overly simplistic designs and can't appreciate good artwork. It's the same shit cartoons are doing right now with that disgusting Calarts style.

>>28203593
Kys

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>people actually like the second designs more

>>28218851
>Suggesting anon should go near a crab/lobster and get pinched
Don't be a troll

>>28219058
They sell lobsters in fucking grocery stores.

>>28219057
>Likes moe shit
>Likes simplistic rounded animation

A manchild likes "cute" things, shocking!

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>>28203505

Reminder that the model looks better and more segmented.

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>>28219105
>calls someone else a manchild
>complains about cartoon creature designs not appealing to them on the Internet

>>28218851
Are you saying that crabs and lobsters do have gaps between their claws and arms that aren't covered by shell? Because no crustacean I've ever seen has had that.