Why haven't they rolled Nidoran into one Pokedex entry yet?

>>28199822
Cant go back and fix the old dex. And besides the original wouldnt be 151 pokemon anymore

>>28199822
Unless you want egg moves

>>28199822
too late to backpedal now.

>>28199847
Who gives a shit though? Gamefreak certainly don't, otherwise they would have given every alt form a Pokedex entry. How is Nidoran any different to say, Kirlia?

Because the Nidos aren't just male and female of the same pokémon. They are different species with gender exclusivity. It's like Tauros and Miltank.

>>28199822
What are different dex numbers?

Nidoking and Nidoqueen have different stats and different movepools. They're different Pokemon.

>>28199822
>>28199874

Does it really matter?

Also, they have different stats.

>>28199822
Same reason as Volbeat/Illumise or Latias/Latios, they're different enough that they count as separate despite ~technically~ being the same species. This more or less happens in real life too, with stuff like cows/bulls and chickens/roosters.
Better question is, why haven't they fixed Nidorina and Nidoqueen being unable to breed?

>>28199961
Those all have different names, what the fuck are you doing anon?

>>28199822
they just look different and are different.
most male and female pokemons look the same.
nidoran doesn't.

>>28199885
Men and women have different stats and moves (like "baby making" and "jizzcannon") but we're still all human

>>28199877
When Nidoran F lay male eggs they are Nidoran M. By game mechanics they are the same species, unlike Tauros and Miltank (Miltank will never lay an egg that hatches as a Tauros, even if they should be a single species)

>>28199885
So are Gallade and Gardevoir. Froslass and Glalie, and other gender based evolutions, Like Despite which has different HAs based on gender.

>>28199981
>nidorino/nidorina
>nidoking/nidoqueen
Makes enough sense to me.

Why the fuck do people still ask this, it would basically remove 3 Pokemon which would mean everything onwards would suddenly have a different dex number. Not happening

>>28199874
Literally any Kirlia can become a Gardevoir. Not the same.

>>28200049
No actually it would remove one Pokemon cause the Pokedex to be rolled back by one. If Game Freak aren't shit programmers they could do that by changing a single value. If they are they could do that by changing 600 values which still is literally nothing.

>>28200000

>>28200079
No it's nothing to do with programming. Doesn't matter if it's rolled back by 1 or 100, Pokemon aren't going to have their national pokedex number changed

>>28199957
>Also, they have different stats.
So do the Wormadam formes. Yetthey still share the same dex entry.

>>28200079
He's not saying it would be too much work you fucking moron, he's saying it would be dumb. Pokemon have had their established Dex numbers for 20 years. Mew is literally referred to as the 151st Pokemon as often as not. None of that needs changing for the sake of one person's autism.

>>28200195
>you fucking moron,
Post disregarded. Didn't even read the rest.

Have some manners.

>>28200195
>>28200049
Then why not go the other way and make then actually different? Come up with a new name for one of them

>>28200181
But those are all literally the same exact creature just with different coatings, which is not the same as having major sexual dimorphism. Which in fact Wormadam does have too, and that one does get a separate dex entry.

>>28200023
>Gallade and Gardevoir. Froslass and Glalie

Yeah, and they all have separate dex entries you idiot. The difference is their pre-evolutions are the same, whereas Nidorans start different.

>>28200238
Because Gamefreak isn't as autistic as you.

>hey guys the male and female anglerfish are drastically different, let's give them completely different names!

They won't remove dex entries for the same reason they won't remove megas.

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>>28200219
Don't mess with me, cunt.
>>28200238
But they are Nidoran. Why would people just start calling them something else lol.

>>28200219
>getting offended by words on 4chan
greetings newfriend

>>28200314
But... your missing the point. Make and female anglerfish are called the same thing because they are the same species. So your argument would make sense if they were the same Pokemon but this whole thread is about the fact that they aren't the same Pokemon.

>>28200339
But if they're both nidoran then why aren't they the same Dex entry?

>>28200350
>Thinking 4chan is le secret club for edgelords
And you unironically call another anon a newfriend? Kek

>>28200573
The point is you aren't supposed to take everything here seriously

>>28200551
Because gen 1 didn't have genders and they're not gonna retcon it because that would mess up the established dex order, is that really so hard to understand?
What's next, are you gonna make a thread asking why it's MR Mime when it can also be female?

>>28200551
Different stats.
Different movesets.
Different designs.

No other Pokemon has such a major gulf between genders.

>>28200829
Explain Meowstic
>different designs
>different stats
>different movepools

>>28201204
They should be different Pokemon.

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Somewhat related, but why four forms instead of four different mons?

>>28201279
Because that's the whole point of it

>>28200006
That's Sex, which is biological.
Gender is how you feel, this is science

>>28201279
Because gimmicks

>>28200829
Wormadam has different stats, different movesets, different designs, and even different types. Yet it's still classified as one Pokémon

>>28201309
See >>28200262

>>28200618
I encourage anyone I call a fucking retard here to take it to heart.

>>28201204
>different stats
No

>>28201254
And yet they arent, and gamefreak has shown that even despite hugely massive differences, such as >>28201279 and >>28201309, they are the same pokemon. So why not retcon Nidoran? They're clearly the same species seeing how Nidoran F can last Nidoran M eggs.

>>28199822
Because it's a Gen1 Exclusive feature. If they combined them into 1 entry, it'd no longer be unique. Kind of like how they didn't bring back fashion, following pokemon, etc.

>>28201391
With all the Actual Real reasons there are for it, you really don't need to make up nonsense like "it's a feature".

Because gamefreak is too stubborn to retcon anything. Just like every time they add a new cross-gen evo, they need to make it use some new bullshit item or mechanic to justify it not being attainable previously. Or how they won't rearrange the national pokedex to have whole families together, and instead have evo families scattered hundreds of entries apart.

>>28199822
Do you also find it strange that Jynx can only be female, yet Mr. Mime can be male OR female?
Because I find that ridiculous for some reason.

>>28201375
I mean, sure, if they were created in gen 2 or later when gender was a thing they probably would have been the same. But they weren't, and they're not gonna change it now because that would mess up the established Pokédex order, and that's all there really is to it. Get over it.

>>28199822
Should have been done in Gen 2. Nidoran should be a single mon that evolves based on its gender.

Its too late now though.