Dark/Normal

GET PANCAKED

>>28195500
Finally a good Alolan

AYYYYY
Mach Punch

>>28195500
I'M ANGRY ABOUT THIS. I HAVE ASPERGER'S.

>>28195500
This is all we get?

All these fags where hyping up starters and we only got a fucking rat. Faggots.

>>28195500
>Ledyba used Mach Punch!

>>28195500
Also confirmed the "unique" special attacks :D for Snorlax and Surfing Raichu

>any fighting attack

leaks were real. cucks BTFO

>>28195500
REPEAT WITH ME

GENWUN PANDERING

WHERE'S THE LEAK ABOUT DARK RATTATA?

>>28195538

Pretty much. I guess we can now spend a few months creating species specific z moves though, when in reality like 10 of them will exist

>>28195500
I mustache why its it dark now? Something about yungoos?

>>28195538
maybe

>>28195500
It's so sad that it evolves into normal Raticate

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>Dark/Normal
Leak was wrong.

>>28195500
checked.
It looks cool. I wonder what 'Cate will look like.

>>28195549
This lends to the theory that Rockruff and the Starters will have unique Z moves that trigger an Ash-Greninja like transformation when they are fully evolved.

Sure why not. Also no starters as expected

>>28195575
It was the Real Leaks Leak

>>28195575
It was the same with the fighting Abra.

FUCKING CONFIRMED

Also water growlithe!

>>28195538
They also showed that Raichu and Snorlax have unique Z moves and if you buy the games before next summer, you get a code for a Munchlax with Snorlaxium Z.

>>28195572
WAHHH I'M A GAY HOENNBABY
WAHHH I'M A GAY HOENNBABY

>>28195572
You mean Genwun improving

>>28195601
No it wasn't. It said Rattata would be Dark, and it is Dark.

>>28195572
They're fixing 'mons that power creep ruined.

>>28195601
Technically it's another half truth like ninetales...

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>>28195575

>>28195601
it said Dark. thats very close

Makes perfect sense that the rat turned pure dark and the rat stays part normal. Said noone ever.

>>28195547
>haha, pokemon have 4x weaknesses!

Also friendly reminder that leaks that "guessed" Dark-type rattata are partly right about it, after all it's close enough to be a weird coincidence to happen.
Obviously not counting those leaks that copied the others.

>>28195665
>>
it's wrong

*Cat

I wonder if real leaks senpai is lurking in the shadows

>>28195705
But it isn't

>More than one evo for Rockruff

I can't wait to see that.

>>28195705
So it's not Dark-type?

Funny, they said it was.

>>28195726
>Dark Alolan Rattata
>Ice Alolan Ninetails

hmmm

>>28195726
Denialfags deal in absolutes

>>28195705
It's wrong but what are the chances that someone guessed there would be an Alola form for rattata that is dark type

>>28195746
Are you saying Alola Rattata isn't Dark?

According to >>28195662 it says it's Dark when it's actually Dark/Normal.

You know just because someone has enough info to leak, doesn't mean that they have complete info, or that what they have is 100% accurate.

Dark or Dark/Normal, this is a pretty solid piece of evidence.

Also, Dark/Normal Raticate sounds pretty fun for in game. It'll be nice getting STAB Crunch and Sucker Punch.

>>28195601
LITERALLY EVERY """LEAK""" MENTIONING RATATA ALSO SAYS IT'S DARK

REMINDER THAT THE ONLY REAL LEAKS IS CHINESE TWITTER ONE, RIDDLER AND STARTER FINAL FORMS

REMINDER THAT EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE FIRST AND SECOND ONES HERE ARE BULLSHIT

>>28195767
are you saying Alolan Rattata is pure dark?

Because that's what the leak said

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>>28195500
>Japanese burglar stereotype
nice

>>28195774
But is it Dark.

>>28195812
It said Rattata would be Dark.
Its Dark

>>28195807
Real leaks literally said bewear's name before it was revealed.

>>28195807
>RIDDLER
Which is this one? I think I missed it

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>>28195842

>>28195601
>Everstone

>>28195530
Calm down. Normal means it keeps its STAB Return and Quick Attack.

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>>28195851
This guy

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>>28195842


Whoops wrong one.

>>28195846
It's Dark/Normal

Leak said Dark. not Dark/Normal

It's wrong, deal with it

>>28195500
>dark/normal
>normal

>>28195919
Real Leaks said Rattata would be Dark
Rattata is Dark

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>>28195662
>Greninjash is in the true leaks

happening

>>28195850
It didn't. Here's a list of things history revisionists imply "real leaks" got right but got wrong:
- Alolan Ninetales' typing (it was Ice/Fairy, not Fire/Fairy)
- Bewear's name (it never explicitly said "Bewear")
- Mimikyu (leaker spelled it Mimikkyu (the Japanese romanized name))
- Alolan Rattata (it was Normal/Dark, not mono Dark)

The leaker said Ninetales was going to become Fairy/Fire and it did gain Fairy at least. It also said that Rattata was going to get the Dark type, and it did while keeping Normal. What are the chances that the leaker guessed both of the secondary types of the two correctly? Not to mention Pyukumuku and Morelull. It's game at this point.

>>28195882
no

>>28195919
Leaks said it's dark.
Is dark.

You say it's wrong.
Are you retarded or braindead?

>>28195893
Does Ratatta get Hone Claws? With that and Hustle, along with Quick Attack, Sucker Punch, Crunch and Return as options it'd be in a good place.

>>28195695
Pokemon can only get away with 4x weaknesses when they're fantastic offensively (like Weavile) or when they have a fuckload of resistances to balance it out (like Scizor). Normal/Dark has neither of these.

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>>28195851
Some guy on a chinese form who posts weird pictures that end up being related to Pokemon revealed later. The only one unsolved here is aristotle

>>28195850
>Fire/Fairy ninetales
No one could look at it and think 'yeah it's still fire type'

Also he never even said Bewear outright

That one's wrong enough to be bullshit

>>28195937
All half truths either way so I'll continue to follow it anyway

>>28195937
Do you remember XY leaks?
Do you rmember that a correct leak for it also got a couple details wrong? Like Fairy types?

It was right in all but its weakness to fire.

>>28195945
>Mysterious powerful fox pokemon tied into lots of fairy-like myths
>dirty rat pokemon with lots of biting moves

Wooow who could have thought they might be fairy/dark

>>28195979
But it was already debunked with the explicit deconfirmation of Alolan Arcanine.

>>28195812
It didn't say that. It said they were Dark types. If Rattata wasn't Dark but another type you'd have an argument.

>>28196005
> explicit confirmation

Hey you're probably right but there's no harm in seeing how things play out until november if water doggy is real.

"Unlike ordinary Rattata, urban areas are Alolan Rattata’s main habitat. They are nocturnal and live in nests of several dozen. Alolan Rattata have an excellent aptitude for sniffing out delicious fresh foods in Alola. They pay no attention to foods that aren’t fresh. Alolan Raticate serve as their boss."
Source: Serebii

>>28195915
>took a photo of the screen
are you mentally impaired?

>>28195945
>What are the chances that the leaker guessed both of the secondary types of the two correctly?
Ninetales is based on the nine-tailed fox, from Japanese folklore, and prior to XY many speculated that it would be retconned into Fire/Fairy.
Rattata's typing change is not extremely far off if you are educated about the history of Hawaii, see >>28195760
Same with Darwin's finches/Oricorio.

>Not to mention Pyukumuku and Morelull
Not the same leak, check any of the leak collages that have been posted in this thread.

>>28195919
The leak is clearly from someone with limited information. The details not being exact were things we already knew about through Ninetails.

>>28196143
You realize

The Real Leaks leak was the first to talk about Alolan forms, period, right?

>>28196190
Didn't mean to quote

>>28195990
You're seriously grasping at straws now. Ninetales could've easily been Ghost or Psychic. >>28195990
But let's also look at it like this: The leaker correctly guessed two Pokemon to get Alolan forms while also not being entirely incorrect in their typing. Honestly, would you have pinned Rattata of all Pokemon to get recognition? And then getting Pyukumuku and Morelull right.

>>28196005
You faggots need to stop with this shit.
just because you see arcanine in one of the trailers, that doesnt confirm theres no alolan arcanine.
You faggots get yourself so convinced that something is either real/fake only to find yourself part of some BTFO screenshot thread
just fucking hold your judgements for something to be officially confirmed

>>28195882
Nice email Miller, mind if I sign you up for Russian fetish porn?

>>28196287
Kek

>>28196227
You're right, but you know thats not how these idiots work

>>28196227
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/160826_02.html
It's literally been confirmed to not have one. Calm the fuck down, anon.

>>28196227
It's the fact that it was a wild encounter and that he's on the jap site with his sun and moon dex entries that makes people believe that he probably won't happen. If this leak is full of half truths water Arcanine could just be another one.

>>28195500
Requesting webm of its cute idle animation.

>>28196401
The other alternative is that some forms are location based, like one island has normal Arcanines and another has water type ones.

While I don't think this is likely, it is very much possible.

>>28195937

Yes it did. When asked about Beware's (then not known) English name, it said "there's a clue in my previous post", which said beware of fake leaks.

>>28196397
But this doesnt confirm that it DOESNT get an alola form??? Do you not find it strange that theyve just put up those random few kanto pokemon on the site? Despite the fact there have been other pokemon seen in the trailers which HAVNT been uploaded? Eg Trubbish, Butterfree..
If anything it makes me think even more that there will be alola forms for those pokemon.

>>28196460
I honestly want Alolan Arcanine, but if I have to choose between none and a boring ass mono water one I would rather take none.

>>28196097

Have you retards been paying attention to anything? Those are the same leaks

>>28195575
Making a biting rat Dark type was a really safe guess.

>>28196401
Wild arcanine?
Thats not ringing any bells for you anon?
It was clearly a battle set up for the purpose of the trailer.

Like i said, i dont know either way if it will get one or not, frankly i couldnt give a toss, however people going around saying LOL DEBUNKED 100% FAKE anytime even a sniff of alola arcanine is mentioned.
it is fucking r e t a r d e d

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>>28196287
Wow good one ananynoose leejun. What an epic thing to do wow so cool we r leejun we don't forgibe cuz leejun haha right my fellow ananymoose

>>28196601
>lol no wild stone pokemon
Again with this shit? It's nothing weird or new, see Cloyster, Starmie, Whimsicott, Lilligant etc.

I understand padding the dex with shitmons, but why give it an entire trailer?

>>28195725
;)

>>28195746
Literally retarded

>>28196654
Anon you fucked up with paint and swapped it around.

>>28195542
wow youre so cool dude

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>>28196712
oops

>>28196499
いる (iru) = to be (present)
いた (ita) = to have been (past)

The entry listing genwun non-alolan pokemon are implying they can be discovered "right now"
The old form comparison text implies they could be discovered in the past

>>28196606
Calm down autismo, it's just a joke. Can't you recognize what a joke is? How devoid of human interaction are you?

>>28195500
When I saw it, I this came to mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hle2-bGDh10

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>>28196601
>Wild arcanine?

Alola Raticate should have a goatee, right?

are you guys fucking retarded? the "leak" says dark, not dark/normal. dual type forms have their two types in that list.
he was wrong about Ninetales' typing too. 2 wrongs don't make a right

>>28196401
The existence of a pokedex entry doesn't necessarily mean anything. There could be dual entries for Alolan pokes and their regular forms. It'd make sense for, say, a transferred normal Rattata's entry to talk about normal Rattata, not the Alolan one.

>>28197090
this they were educated guesses and they were kind of close

>>28195500
I'm digging that old timey bad guy moustache.

>>28197090
well nintales and Rattata leaks were different
but doesn't mean rattata was not just a lucky guess

Real leaks leak had most of it's shit right. I believe that abra line will be changed as it says. They have stayed away from kadabra since uri geller sued them for it. moving away from his design makes sense

>>28195807
None of the leaks are real, you autist.

>b-b-buh they said something kinda sorta right but not exactly

>>28197159
They were in the same post. I believe the chinese leaks and the starterts, but the two at the bottom have nothing going for them. the wrong information should be enough to disprove them
>>28195662

>>28197097
That's true, but why put it on the site in the first place? If it's to show a difference between alola and normal entries why not do it with ones that are already confirmed? I still think it's more realistic that they put them up to show that those are definitely going to be in the game in their normal forms, which is semi confirmed by the wild encounter Arcanine, instead of being just one big ruse.

>>28197141
Moustache AND the ties for a burglar headband

>>28195755
It's not weird to think a literal rat would be dark type.

>>28197312
Or he actually read up on Hawaii's history with mongoose and took an educated guess.

>>28195937
>Mimikyu (leaker spelled it Mimikkyu (the Japanese romanized name)

are you saying the leaks are fake because they misspelled a name by one letter? you are an absolute retard.

>>28195937
Literal autism. I work with autistic kids. This is autism, the non-meme version.

Poison/Psychic Alolan Hoothoot when?

>>28195937
It can be romanized as Mimikyu or Mimikkyu.

>>28195500
moustache is cute, but why is it bipedal

>>28197969
It uses its hind legs to look bigger than it is to scare off Yungoos

>>28195937
You should also mention that only Ninetales was listed as having an Alolan form, not Vulpix.

>>28195893
And extreme speed and sucker punch.

>>28197911
ッ is always romanized with double consonants

>>28196011
These guys are are probably puffing up, red in the face right now . "NO. It wasn't EXACTLY right. I can STILL BE RIGHT". Denialfags pls go.

>>28196225
He also guessed two alolan forms before alolan forms were revealed. He also perfectly explained oricoro.

>>28198137
I don't think anyone is angry (well expect you and your caps happy ways)

If he had said rattata was now Dark/Rock would he have been wrong or right in your eyes?

>>28198220
"Perfectly Explained Oriccoro" or just "A bird that varies among the islands ala Darwin's Galapagos finches"

Perfectly explaining Oricorro to me would be naming it's types, he (failed to correctly) mention Alolan Rattata's type after all, so why didn't he "perfectly explain" the birds types?

>>28198366
¡Rattata ha usado Tequila Diente!

>>28195834
That makes a lot of sense

>>28195958
Rattata doesn't have an obligation to sit at the top of OU, cretin.

>x4 weakness to the most common physical attacking type
no thanks.

>>28198005
No you moron. Nothing was said about Vulpix. Leaks never say every single detail.

>>28195619
*Snorlium Z

>>28195990
>MUH HINDSIGHT

>>28198015
>Extremespeed

Stop

>>28195500
I like it. Wouldn't mind if they just retconned the Rattata line to this for all future games

So what makes this Dark/Normal but alolan meowth is pure dark?

>>28196767
funny thing is rats are already pretty much nocturnal

>>28200167
It learns normal type moves.

I'd really like to see Alolan Raticate/Persian.

>>28196767
BOTH formes can exist at once.
いた refers to Pokemon who once were normal but all changed to Alola form
いる refers to Pokemon who exist in their normal form but doesn't deny the possibility of Alola form ALSO existing.

>>28200167
To make them different.

>>28195500
>inb4 gluttony now allows pokemon to steal and eat the consumables from other pokemon when hitting them with moves that make contact.

>STAB Fake Out
>STAB Sucker Punch
>STAB Facade
>STAB Knock Off for mons with no consumables.

or

>Normal types are now immune to Fairy.

>>28195662
Also nobody notice that he says only Ninetales would be Fire/Fairy, an that Vulpix will keep his Fire Type.

>>28195500

It's gonna evolve into a Dark/Psychic Criminal Mastermind Pokemon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP8QdFttugg

>>28195619
Also Happy Hour and Hold Back ;)

>>28200277
Where the fuck do you see anything about Vulpix?

>>28200284
Hopefully it stays Dark/Normal since it's a unique typing.

>>28195662
I'd wager that the original "Real Leaks" post is all confirmed, and the post with alolan formed was just him having fun or else a totally different anon. Getting both of those typings wrong means he's just guessing at best, or doesn't really know.

>>28195961
We still don't know what the RPS + organs = 13 is supposed to be either

Unless we're assuming that's Pukumuku

>>28195580
>Meganium gets one
>It has to hold Meganiumium or Meganium to use it

>>28200509
Yeah, I think there's a reason why forms are in a different post. Either it's someone else bullshitting or leaker wasn't sure and put his guesses in other post.

Pleasantly surprised by how much I like it. I hope they can make Raticate better as well. I never cared for it, and always resisted evolving Rattatas because of it.

WHERE ARE THE MTG BLACK RAT MEMES?