Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_037_The_Finals!_Satoshi_VS_Alan!![H264_720P][429D17E9].mkv.torrent

XY&Z15 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_015_A_Brigarron_from_the_Wilderness!_The_Tree-planting_Robon!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][46EE6A1F].mkv.torrent

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

XY&Z39 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=843882

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z41: ATTACK ON MIARE GYM! THE CITROID FOREVER!! (SEPTEMBER 8TH)
>Citron VS Xerosicy! Who will win this battle where their pride as scientists are at stake!? And after this fierce battle, Citron is forced to make a difficult choice!

>Summary:
>Serena sets off to rescue Hari-san together with Manon and Platane. They end up in deep trouble when they are attacked by the Flare Gang's Admins, but then a reassuring ally appears! But just who is it? Meanwhile, Citron has snuck into the Prism Tower in order to recover the Miare Gym, and is now finally confronting Xerosicy!

>Voice cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Kenichi Suzumura: Daigo
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Noriko Shitaya: Yancham
>Mika Kanai: Nymphia
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Horubee
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Karin Nanami: Correa
>Sayuri Hara: Momiji
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 48 (Sep 4th)

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1

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Have you accepted Team Flare as your overlods yet, /padt/?

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BEST OT3 CRASHING INTO A NEW THREAD! KALOS WAS A MISTAKE AND THERE ARE ONLY 14 DAYS TO GO FOR CAPRIS CONFIRMATION??!!

>Press F for pay respect for Clembot

I'm starting to really hate Alan's character. He kept doing jackshit except for weakly pledging Lysandre to stop it once Ash and Greninja started to get hit by the beam, and still did nothing afterwards until Ash freed himself and challenged Lysandre to a battle. What a faggot asshole.

>>28192278
F

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GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY

>>28192278
F
also repostan
>>28192262
citroid dying will literally become citron's reason to stop travelling with ash, he will have to run his own gym again

>>28192289
You do realize that Hari-San is basically a hostage now and him rebelling can make TF kill the little shit?

So apparently what was said about Alain's Ring is that every time Charizard defeated a Mega opponent, it would basically absorb the energy, making it stronger than it normally would

fuck

>Clembot being killed off so the writers have an excuse to keep Clemont in Kalos

>>28192291
>implying the helicopter scene not happening doesn't change everything

Watch the trailer, that helicopter is taking off. She's going to save Satoshi later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LISmPmdUhYA

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Meanwhile in Pokenchi

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So is all this part of the keikuaku or is Lysandre fucked?

>>28192275
Rap God Xerosic

Somebody got that screenshot of lysandre mega evolving gyarados? When his bracelet was shining

>>28192279
i know you're just joking but fuck if we don't see bisharp or unfezant in the next two episodes i'm gonna be convinced that was some flare Battle Factory shit and the reason he doesn't have them now is because he deposited them with a grunt while they were abducting ash

>>28192300
Didn't stop him from turning on Lysandre once Ash freed himself.

>>28192238
gimme proofs motherfucker

>>28192309
This is stupid, considering that he could make another robot, but plot I suppose.

>people thought it was Bonnie-Dedenne
>it actually is Bonnie-Zygarde

So is Lysandre's plan to RESETTO?

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>>28192228
>Keeping XY&Z's ep 40 preview for ep 41.

m-muh urgency to make the new thread, guise.

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>>28192328
ratto doesn't stand a chance, does he

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Reminder that this dragon jet plane has still made more progress in the Ashbowl than Serena and Serena's replacement is only a few months away.

>>28192307
If this is true, wouldn't it count as...
cheating?

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More suffering for bonnie, I suppose

>>28192328
>Its actually Eureka-Zygarde

>>28192328
looks like all the drawbacks and none of the benefits though

unless zygarde's gonna have a cute head of blonde curls when it's completed

>>28192309
>>28192299
Well, there's also the whole rebuilding the city thing, I guess. That might be kinda important.

>>28192276
Why 14 days?
Why so long?

>>28192320
Anon, Alan's team was a last-minute asspull to justify him beating Ash at the league (not even to enter the league since he only swept with Charizard and occasionally used Metagross until the finals). Did you EVER get the impression he had any other Pokémon during the mega specials or the main series until XY&Z23?

>>28192310
She doesn't need to save Satoshi anymore.

>>28192346
>Eureka-Zygarde

Holy shit the name fits so perfectly.

Sadly no more than one synchro can be triggered at the same time so no Ash-Greninja and Bonnie-Zygarde together.

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>>28192276
>this is what lunacucks actually believe

Serena already said that she won't be going to save Ash, because "him and Alan are strong so they don't need to be protected.

>>28192276
I want Ash to be shirtless in Alola.

Or max wear an open shirt like Luffy and the professor.

>>28192335
Fuck >>28192281
Almost, though.

>>28192309
He's also probably going to be instrumental in repairing all of Lumious and Lumious Tower.

Remember way back when Clemont left the gang to go train for the Gym Match, it was said I believe that Clemont helped build and maintain the power system in Lumious.

He's going to be to busy to go along with Ash.

>>28192359
She will when he gets captured again.

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>>28192342
good i fucking love latias

don't use her in your shipping war shitflinging nonsense, what happened in altomare stays in altomare

>>28192355
yeah his metang at least

that was the only pokemon he was like "OH FUCK I'M UPSET YOU'RE GETTING HURT" during the finals too so i think he at least raised that one

>>28192357
Talonflame's pose makes me chuckle for some reason

>>28192345
Good.

Some of you said Alan was gonna break Ash out

Haha Ash is a strong trainer who don't need no Alan

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END

OF

AMOUR

>>28192363
It's got a nice ring to it.

>>28192354
>responding to obvious trolls

>>28192375
ash just had his last super power up where he broke the magical shit restraining him with the power of super amphibian butthurt, he better not get fucked again

>yfw eureka z

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>>28192354
Because flare arc.

>>28192365
Nice false flag, MallowxLuna the Strongest alliance!

Where's Adamant? Is it confirmed that Alan cheated?

>>28192375
He's not getting captured again.

>>28192375
>captured again
are serenafags always this retarded?

>>28192328
>IKU Z Bonnie version plays

>>28192395
>Eureka-Z

A weapon to surpass metal gear

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>>28192394
>he doesn't know
keikaku doori

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>>28192383
DELETE THIS

Its hard to believe this is the best villain team arc finale they ever did, but Ash's loss in the league sours it.

>>28192398
Not even as bait, retard.

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>>28192379
Talonflame strikes me as the kind of pokemon that WANTS to be oaked, like bulbasaur or unfezant

>>28192375
State of serenacucks

Why did the Volcanion movie have no shirtless Ash?

>>28192414
If you're actually pissed about Ash losing the league you need to kys and let people enjoy the rest of XYZ

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Daigo wwwwwwww

>>28192307
Soooo... Ash wins the Kalos League.

On a technicality!

>>28192414
It's already the best villan team arc, yet it could have been 10 times better if I won the league.

>>28192414
Because Villain team arcs are forgone aside from the 'journey', doesn't matter how gritty you make them.

>>28192375
> captured again

We're hitting delusion levels that shouldn't be possible.

>>28192357
>>28192422
also now i'm salty that megazard x gets front billing and ash's dragons are flanking it. hell, its own trainer is shunted off to the side. what is going on

>>28192414
Ash losing the league is sour by itself, sourest league by far for me, because it was the one that hyped me the most.
But it doesn't ruin in any way this Flare Arc which is awesome, at least for me.

>>28192440
fuck meant Ash damnit.

This is the first time Ash actually battles a villain leader, right? I didn't see the Plasma eps, but Ash never battled Archie/Maxie or Cyrus.

>>28192307
We already knew Charizard is a shitmon that's only good with the mega crutch anon.

>>28192465
he tussled with giovanni

oneshot by persian i think, because BW and fuck you

>>28192465
Does murder-attempt count as battle?

kek pyroar jobbed hard. Based luchabro

>>28192439
Well, remember what was said about the Arc in Alola having ash prove himself again? This could probably be the reason. People knew Ash lost to Alain, but has to be the representative for Kalos because the latter was guilty of being used by Flare.

>>28192436
Good taste my nigga

If Dawn was in this arc she would be battling right alongside Ash against the villains. Serena gets stuck on a helicopter to go rescue some grass pokemon...

what was Lysandre's flashback for?

>>28192433
Someone answer this guys.

I mean, it was way more logical to have him shirtless here rather than in Hoopa.

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>>28192439
no, it's another moral fucking victory like tobias, aka a loss

gah

>>28192474
Ash almost got swept 6 to 2 in his final Unova gym match against Roxie, won solely because of a lucky para, and one of his opponents was a Koffing

He didn't even deserve to go the Unova league desu

>>28192491
Explaining why he wants to commit genocide

It was basically "ningen a shit"

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>>28192276
I'll protect Satoshi s smile!

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>Team Flare is losing because they're courteously respecting the rules of double battles while the heroes are spamming their entire teams at them
Katie Tiedrich was right.

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Why are Lunacucks so delusional

>>28192470
alan's charizard managed to take out a pikachu softened up by a tyranitar and metagross, it's plenty strong in base, leave zard alone

>>28192483
What the fuck are you talking about?

>Ash was like "I will protect you Alain" the whole time

MEGA HOMO
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>>28192491
Yeah that flashback though

>>28192496
Can someone confirm or not, did Alain cheat or not?

AshxAlan had more advancement in this episode that AshxSerena ever did

Fucking KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

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>>28192520

>>28192506
god she's so alluring

>>28192508
ash is enough of a shounen hero that if lysandre went "wait, let's do this shit fair" he would totally agree to a regular double battle though

this is just lysandre whipping out his big megaevo dick, literally if you've ever seen a mega gyarados

>>28192532
i mean define cheat

>>28192508
>Shiny Pinsir, Shiny Scrafty and Shiny Gengar in an ingame playthrough
>2 megas

Obviously got life sentenced for hacking

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>>28192182
>>28192190
...chance of May coming back?

>>28192276
Don't you ever post this agan, you hear that? Not until you've added Serena in there. There is literalyy no way the pokemon anime can exist without Serena anymore. She brngs too much to the seies, in fact it's her and Ash that singlehandedly carry the show. In the first place, why would Ash leave Serena behind? He has never been this close with anyone vere before as he is now with Serena. Your delsuions are disgusting. Add Serena to the picture right now. RIGHT. NOW. What are you waitng for? Add her right now. N O W

>>28192537
I'm actually more of a homoshipper in the XY series. its sad really.

>>28192537
same with serena/manon

she was tender and soothing to that young leprechaun in a way alan never was

>>28192532
Yes. Without meaning to, Alain cheated.

Lysandre gave him a Mega-ring that siphoned energy off of other mega-evolvers so his Charizard was more powerful. Essentially, mega-steroids.

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>>28192543
delete this?

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>>28192557
>drew's been retconned out of existence so you have a chance ash!
>a chance for what? who was drew again

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>>28192520
It just comes to show who's the real main character of this story.

>>28192559
trololololololo
do you honestly believe this dreg

>>28192545
Obviously he didn't know, but Alain's ring was absorbing the energy right?

Which is why it tanked everything in the last battle despite logically it shouldn't have?

Alain and Ash settle down together in Kalos

Serena, Manon, Clemont and Bonnie go to Alola

>>28192572
is this more or less cheating than a guy who has a greninja that gets infinitely more powerful based on how much they want to win

>>28192583
alan being reduced to a sobbing histrionic mess punching the ground while ash broke himself out with willpower and soothed him was oddly satisfying

also super gay jesus christ

>>28192572
>>28192586

Knew it. Well as depressing as it is. At least we know Ash would have won the league.

>>28192272
>not a single XY&Z episode listed
That has to be a first

>>28192572
So did Greninja lose energy or Zard was too pumped up?

>>28192583
yfw Alain was the main Heroine from the start.

>>28192436
whoaa
post more

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>>28192557
>KAORI is still out of commission
Sorry, anon

>>28192606
>the stumble when the smoke cleared was charizard having an orgasm from all the KG energy he'd just sucked up

>>28192602
What's stopping him from getting the trophy?

It's not like Alain would want to keep it knowing the truth, and Diantha and the others will understand.

Unless of course Ash rejects it for some stupid retarded reason.

>>28192605
>blind
>mentally retarded
Pick one.

Ash's loss was meant to feel off
>Those tweets from staff knowing this reveal was two weeks away
THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE

>>28192572
That is just further proof that Ash is a Gary Stu.

Fuck Alain, that bitch ass nigga cheater.

>>28192307
So Ash won the Kalos League? Please tell me he's going to be crowned Champ and Hero of Kalos after this shit ends.

7th character song is a Meowth song

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28192602
No, we dont know that, there were other trainers that lost because Alan cheated. That means the matches would've been different and the outcome could be different aswell

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>>28192307
Did he really say that?

Calling it now

>Ash and Alain rematch after Flare is dealt with, Alian using normal non-bullshit mega ring now, for the sake of settling shit on fair terms

>either Ash wins, smiles wistfully knowing he could've won the league after all and continues to Alola, or the outcome of the match is left ambiguous so Zardfags don't start crying too much

>>28192631
Do you even know what that word even means?

>>28192628
What? There's no XY episode listed there

>>28192625
getting the trophy like that wouldn't feel right. like officially sure, slather the boy with titles or whatever the hell, but that shit wouldn't be earned

a real champion would have been able to overcome the odds and beat a pumped up zard, or beat tobias' legendary team. or at least i think that'd be ash's logic

>>28192634
No, he wont be

>>28192656
Eat shit, Manon.

>>28192640
Confirmed?

>>28192572
so the super potions alan was using during the underground gauntlet were a red herring

and in reality the only reason he beat malva was because he'd just gone through an invigorating gauntlet of ten battery encounters, on top of a visit with mega rayquaza and the primal legendaries?

>>28192647
That would be the biggest bitchslap in the history of Pokemon, goddamn i would be pissed

>>28192645
We don't know for sure. Alan was surprised about being used as a collector for mega energy that ultimately was used by Fleur-de-Lis in order to take over the world. Though from what I recall, the dialogue never really mentioned if Alan could use said energy.

>>28192647
>Alain wins again
Pls make it happen.

>>28192572
So how does this count as cheating more than have a synchro thing that's avaible to you only and not avaible to other trainers?
Double standards really. It's not cheating if it wasn't forbidden by the rules.

>>28192602
>At least we know Ash would have won the league.
Yes, he would've, if he hadn't told Alain to join the league in the first place.

>>28192383
t. desperate shitposter

>>28192674
So basically. those 10 straight battles were doing Alan's zard more good than bad.

>>28192685
So as usual people say "it happened" without even waiting for any official confirmation

>>28192650
Go be a smartass somewhere else, aye?

>>28192690
You're stupid.

>>28192685
what was the point of all those shots of the ring glowing and the glow getting sucked right into the keystone then

>>28192668
absolutely.

http://www.pokemon-xyz-charactersongproject.com/news/archive.html?472009

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28192564
>everybody excepts Amour and incest
>we get homolust Alain x Ash and Serena X Manon instead
kek

>>28192690
Lysandre would have wanted him to join regardless. His mega ring absorbs power from other megas, and guess where most of Kalos' mega pokemon trainers congregate.

>>28192702
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28192706
>they do homolust and Serena/Manon because of the boys are already paired with the girls
>Clemont loses the Bonnie

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>>28192706
>ash was tender and soothing to alan and aroused him in a moment of weakness
>serena was tender and soothing to manon and aroused her in a moment of weakness
those two really are soulmates, and possibly homosexuals

>>28192700
>Hey, remember this? It happened before. Perhaps you missed it.

Still, don't know if the dialogue said something to suggest otherwise.

>>28192698
>Alain uses a method that makes his Pokemon stronger based on the amount of megas defeated
Wow, it's like EXP and leveling. Really makes you think... He should be banned for sure!
In reality there's no functional difference between these two and some trainers join the league with mons which aren't even fully evolved.

>>28192654
That's no realistic thing either whould have possible, that's a reason why even the champions and E4 in games don't use legendaries, and Zard aborbing all that would have made him equivalent to lv 100 or max that.

Whatever the case, I don't think the trophy will go to anyone.

As for Ash himself, we'll ever since he lost to Tobias he's been smiling whenever he lost from Unova so I thought he doesn't care anymore.

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>>28192702
A L A N B T F O
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>>28192690
The difference is Ash and Grenigga got their power on their own. Alan had a whole team at his backing, knowing about it or not.

It's like fixing a sports game by like iunno putting roids in the one dude's juice box. Even if he doesn't know, it's still cheating.

>>28192716
>the shuriken turned red
Get the fuck out of here Lucas.

>>28192721
in the actual scenes, it didn't constantly swap over to alan's wrist sucking up the juice after the opposing mega evo

>>28192726
it would be no-contest for the whole league

alan was in it from the very start so if people think he cheated, it invalidates the whole tournament

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>>28192694
Early bird gets the worm, I suppose.

>>28192722
except that's just within the context of the game. Within in-universe context, it's literally like a PED.

>>28192702
AMOURFAGS

B T F O
T
F
O

CANDY GIRL

INTO THE TRASH IT GOES

>>28192690
Synchro is the same as a mega, so that in case half of the trainers would have been cheating.

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>>28192510
So it's treason then?

>>28192702
WHYYY

>Character song #7, "Nyarth's Ballade", is ready! It will be available from Thursday September 15th in ringtone and anime size single-track digital download formats!!


>The popular anime TV series "Pocket Monsters XY&Z" airs every Thursday on the TV Tokyo Network at 6:55pm

>And the 7th entry in this "Pocket Monsters XY&Z" series' character song project, "Nyarth's Ballade", is now complete!!

>"Nyarth's Ballade" will also be given an advance release in ringtone and anime size single-track digital download formats Thursday September 15th!!

>Definitely look forward to it!

oshit

>>28192750
It'd show shots of him looking at the ring but not the actual absorption. People figured it just happened anyway.

>>28192750
Well this will make the epilogue interesting for sure.

>>28192761
>selenepit
unf

So how many megas did Alan's zard absorb to take down Synchro greninja? anyone do the counting?

>>28192756
>implying they would make a song and then not use it in the anime

>>28192756
>
Are you mad it isn't Alan's song?

>>28192750
So, you did forget? Glad to see the writers decided to include that teeny flashback(/retcon, if applicable) then.

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I want to walk tall
With my scarf and a smile on my cheeks
Next to you, at the same pace as you

Every now and then we fight
But we're always guaranteed to make up again, aren't we?
It's because I want to learn to know every one of your colors

I'm not just a purely "edgy" Chunny Boy
When the hero is in trouble,
I'll courageously swoop in to help

~~

Why did the Volcanion movie have no shirtless Ash guys?

>>28192756
Nobody thought it was going to be a second song for Serena when everyone else only had one. What we were hoping for was a group song between the XY Family before they go in however many different directions.

>>28192782
i didn't forget shit, what are you talking about

>>28192739
>The difference is Ash and Grenigga got their power on their own.
Frankly it wasn't handed to Alain either, he had to earn it.
And as far as Greninja is concerned it kinda happened. They got the special power because muh special snowflake Narutoad. Boohoo. The entire explanation behind this so called 'kizuna genshou' is that Ash and Greninja are close.
Ash had a Pikachu around for 19 fucking years and this didn't happen. This is new levels of plot convenience really.

>It's like fixing a sports game by like iunno putting roids in the one dude's juice box. Even if he doesn't know, it's still cheating.
>>28192754
Only if roids are actually forbidden.

>>28192764
>not KISEKI by Ash, Bonnie, Clemont and Serena
I will proceed to kill myself.

>>28192764
Can it surpass Polka-o-Dolka as Nyarth's best song, though?

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>barely half a minute of Zygarde vs Zygarde

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>m-muh candy girl!

IT HAS NO CANON
IT HAS BARELY A NAME

>>28192764
Once again, no confirmation that this is the last one and they still have to months for one more.

>>28192572
He siphoned the mega energy to powerup Flare's deathlaser and other Zygarde containing appliances. Charizard had no way of using the power, stop pulling shit out of your ass.

>>28192726
>that's a reason why even the champions and E4 in games don't use legendaries
Not like it's insurmountable though. Brandon has no problems using them and Noland apparently could on request. Plus it's not like Tobias got banned from league events for darkrai sweeping

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>>28192579
I hope so, just to forever bury all the Pokeshippers who pushed May and Drew.

Fuck Drew. He's like the fucking forerunner of all the NTR hentai leads running amok these days.

>>28192621
RAGE

>>28192378
Fucking love this girl.

>>28192414
It doesn't even matter now how hard they push Mega Greninja now, he's so shit in the powerrrankings no one will believe it. Direction team should talk to wrestling writers sometime.

>>28192506
Suddenly, I'm tempted by Hawaiian girls...

>>28192806
GRASPING THE STRAWS

What do you guys think is the reason for ash getting new clothes in Alola?

I think Delia will pack the usual jacket + shirt+ undershirt, till he reaches, founds out how warm it is and gets a heat stroke.

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>>28192794
>super steroid mega ring was LITERALLY handed to Alain by Team Flare

>after just one battle with any mega he is already at an advantage over any other mega and still struggled against a lot of them

kek

>>28192764
>in ringtone and anime size single-track digital download formats
So no full size release despite being a new song?
CD 2 must be right around the corner.

>people are getting so desperate that they now want Alain disqualified so that Ash can 'win' the league
Jesus.

>>28192805
>IT HAS NO CANON
>Shoko literally says what it's about

...so after this episode.... Is HYPE RESTORED?

>>28192805
>somehow manage to be more delusional than amourfags

>>28192834
Some people are anal retentive like that.

>>28192831
>synchro was LITERALLY handed to Ash by writers
>he is already at an advantage over any other trainer and still struggled against a lot of them

>>28192834
It's a legitimate question, and it has even more value for subplots for the next series. In fact, it's already a step up from the previous leagues where we just need to accept that he lost, now this time; it's actually up for debate.

>>28192847
Did you look in a mirror?

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>>28192506
>>28192822
>Suddenly, I'm tempted by Hawaiian girls...

Definitely best girl material

>ywn camp out beside the beach in sleeping bags watching the clear starry sky while the cold sea breeze blows and that alluring sound of waves crashing the shore

>>28192837
It was really fucking good.

>>28192834
It's better than leaving it at the unexplainable bullshit it is right now.

>>28192815
Tobias should have, but I'm sure Cynthia trashed him.

Not Diantha though, she would have lost badly.

>>28192794
>Frankly it wasn't handed to Alain either, he had to earn it.

Lysandre stomped Alain and gave him a mega ring. Synchro was much harder to control since it would also cause pain to Ash. He'd put in twice as much work as Alan because he'd have to tank damage from Pokemon attacks whule coordinating Greninja. Alan only has to activate ME with a ring that absorbs ME energy from other mons.

As the ring absorbs ME energy from other mons, wouldn't that also make the opponent's mon weaker?

>>28192804
well yeah the actual fight is Complete Zygarde Bonnie Sync vs Monster Zygarde

get ready to cry Bonnie

>>28192866
No I'm ironically delusional, this guy is actually delusional.

>>28192822
Drew was thrown in by the writers for May despite the pokeshipper bullshit though.

>>28192831
Somebody always has an advantage in the battles. It's not like both trainers go into them having a 50/50 chance. What Alain had was an anime equivalent of Lucky Egg that let him level faster. He still had to go through all those battles and training to get to the level he was at.
And him struggling only proves that it wasn't a magical 'I win' item and he had to put in the effort.

>>28192863
It's literally the same as Mega.

>>28192880
even if this weren't happening, If this was a real-life league; most of the competitors would protest against the findings on Alan.

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>>28192873
i'm not saying it was totally inexplicable

but man even base greninja could give kinda token pressure to megazard x, i'm surprised the power disparity in the final battle was so huge

>>28192869
Holy shit anon that sounds maximum comfy.

>>28192873
>unexplainable bullshit
Satoshi lost, there's your explanation.

Get on with it now.

>>28192888
Him struggling proves he's garbage because even with his bullshit special snowflake ring he gets his shit pushed in by actually good mega trainers.

>>28192822
>>28192869
>Chicken
>Hawaiian

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>>28192847
>The impoverished state of amourfags

>>28192908
you mad that the writing staff just threw this fact in to mess with you?

>>28192865
>it's actually up for debate.
About as much as Tobias. If you think using Legendaries was cheating then hey, Ash is the moral winner of the league, as he gave Tobias the most trouble.
If you think what Alain did was cheating then hey, Ash is the moral winner of the league, as he lost the final to Alain.
In order for something to be considered cheating it has to be forbidden by the rules, that's how simple it is. And this most likely wasn't, as people aside from Lysandre and some other Flare bigshots like Xerosic weren't even aware of it.

If Ash were intended to win the league he would've won it.

>>28192908
he lost because he lost is such a boring tautology though

>>28192912
And then he trains more and more and gits gud.
Amazing, just like any other trainer.

>>28192913
Have you ever been to hawaii? Planning to settle down there with my relatives. It was comfy as fuck when I came there. Lots of qt japs, hafus and browns.

If that shit about edgezard is true they will likely have a rematch frog vs zard. Why aren't you girls more happy?

>>28192950
alan whining for a friendly on some random public battlefield and ash winning wouldn't be all that satisfying

>>28192925
Only because you're treating the league like the games. Like I said, more than the validity of the win, it sullies the competition itself.

It's like if someone revealed that Steph Curry was just accurate because the balls he shoots have homing devices attached to them.

>>28192918
You seem to be under some sort of misconception - the writing stuff doesn't alter the story or 'throw facts', they literally create it. They don't really need to justify stuff because they have full control over plot. The only '''control''' the fans have over it is that they can quit watching if they don't like it.

>>28192803
Big Nyarth Day already did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxiGpSh7wZE

>>28192961
I wonder if the league has an anti-doping policy for crap like X Attack

>>28192973
was that even used in-anime?

>>28192961
>Like I said, more than the validity of the win, it sullies the competition itself.
That's exactly what I said though. This is basically Tobias all over again. Muh moral victory.

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>>28192943
>>28192943
>gits gud
>losing a Tyranitar and Metagross in the leagues to a fucking Pikachu
>implying Alain and his crew of shitmon wouldn't have gotten swept by fucking Trevor if he didn't have his crutch ring

>>28192949
Few times matter of fact. Once just because and the other three times for business.

Chicken isn't hawaiian though.

>>28192989
i dunno, but i bet it exists. ash has soothe bells sitting at home, he got buried under a pile of macho braces a while ago, and alan used a never-before-seen super potion during the megaevo specials i think. pokeball factory episode was the first time we ever saw a ton of those ball variants too i think

>people actually thinking alain cheated when the only proof is some ashfag in the thread claiming so
screenshot with nip sub where?

>people would've been okay with Ash winning using synchro plothax
>they're not okay with Alain losing with mega plothax
greninja was a massive fucking mistake. there were no good outcomes in the final. if ash had won people would be claiming moral victory for alain because he didn't have synchro while ash did. i hope writers don't give anybody any bullshit powers next time around and just let them duke it out fair and square.

>>28193012
>alan used a never-before-seen super potion
They use Super Potions all the time.

>>28192992
but they're following up with it. Tobias was basically an implied moral victory. Alan was basically "he won, but..."

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>>28192989
Only in a movie.

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>>28192869
Sounds like the comfiest scene for an ED!

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>>28193017
This. I'm an Ashfag and I don't believe this.

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>defending ash

>>28193000
That's what happens when all you ever do is train one fucking mon again and again and again. Basically every time Alain shows up he trains Charizard. That's all he ever does. Hell, we didn't even know his team before the final.

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>>28193033
Looks like this, for the record.

1 -Mallow
+cooks
+is native to Alola
+is a 'gym leader'
+grass type expert, possibly she will get Rowlet
+she's in the concept art with Ash

2 -Lillie
+ is knowledgeable of stuff like moves/abilities
+ isn't a battler so could have be used to show side activities in Alola
+ Alola native (?)
- her ingame plot might mean this is unfeasible
- not a battler so won't be helpful against TR

3 -Lana
+ native of Alola
+ is a 'gym leader'
- don't know much about her yet


4 -FemMC
+ is a female protagonist which increases her chances
+ the status quo
- not present in the games unlike other femMC's
- not a native of Alola
- doesn't have any goals/personality as of yet

5 -Serena
+ crush on Ash
+ cooks
+ small team might be leaving door open for her to catch Alola mons instead
+/- no confirmation of contests in Alola
- companions rarely travel to new regions
- not an Alolan native
- Ash losing the League re-affirms status quo


6 -Bonnie
+ has Squishy, and we know Zygarde has an important role in Alola
- Zygarde's plot seems to be coming to a close
- unlikely to go to Alola without Clemont
- Ash losing the League re-affirms status quo

>>28192915
>shitposts so much he can't read

>>28192835
And yet it hasn't appeared in the anime.

>>28193018
mega stone plus bullshit flare vampire bracelet is a different story from zinnia's mega anklet or shota's mega bookmark though

>>28193024
they barely even use regular potions or consumables in general

>>28193026
>Tobias was basically an implied moral victory. Alan was basically "he won, but..."
I fail to see the difference.

Shitposters are up early today, I see.

>>28193044
>+grass type expert, possibly she will get Rowlet
>+she's in the concept art with Ash
>Brock and Clemont get starters
>game concept art
Negatives.

>>28192572
Since when is any method of making a pokemon stronger cheating

>>28193043
whose bright idea was pokemon battles with steroid guns and how did they make up an excuse for it in the anime

i thought that was just a bad multiplayer gimmick

>>28193047
Neither has KISEKI. Doesn't change what it's about.

>>28193053
the difference is that It's us doing the "He won, but" for Tobias, in Alan's case. It's discussed left, right and center this episode.

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>>28192869
Okay, you got me anon. That sounds so comfy.

Though I also like cloudy skies. But yes, it's good you mentioned cold sea breeze. And the waves. The comfy waves.

>>28192886
True, but it was unbearable to have to deal with the Drew Defense Force though. Which were nearly all just Pokeshipper socks.

When are we gonna have main grills have a conflict over the Satoshi, and not just a grill and a COTD?

Science is amazing!

The only good thing from this episode is knowing that Alan cheated and Ash lost because of it.


>Ash not fighting Alan and winning this time

fucking FUCK

>>28193052
They use potions all the time when there's an injured Pokemon in the wild.

They've just been mainly replaced by berries.

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>>28193057
>game concept art

>male has same hair as Ash
>has a Pikachu on his shoulder

>>28193091
>implying anime concept art
>when leaker literally calls it game concept art

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>>28193039
>subs come out a few days later
>alain didn't cheat, the graphic shown was just him angsting over charging lysandre's battery for him

there's acknowledging and admonishing the blatant viewer baiting by the producers and there's grasping at straws
i can't wait for the fucking excuses again

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Well he was a scrub before meeting Lysandre so it makes sense

>>28193067
They showed it off as a movie thing like how Ash pilots a jet to fight Mecha Tyranitar.

>>28192647

Even with a rematch, Ash will lose if Alan uses the mega ring in a fair way, because it's pretty obvious Greninja will lose his powers after the crisis.

Unless Alan decides to fight without mega. Maybe I'm really pessimistic about the hypothetical rematch outcome, but I think Ash will only tie vs. Alan. Writers won't let him to be the strongest one, but at least they will make him an equal.

Once RAWs are out we need Adamant to confirm what was actually said because I'm not going on one anon's word of what was 'supposedly' said about Alan's Mega Ring.

>>28193118
>it's pretty obvious Greninja will lose his powers after the crisis
Really doubt that.

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>>28193067
Like this.

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Consider the following

>Alain is sent to prison, raped in the showers and later publicly executed in disgrace as a traitor to his country

>Ash takes his league title

>>28193121
Where was this supposedly said?

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>>28192228
>>28192228
DOUBLE DEITO EPISODE WHEN

>>28193068
It'll only be canon if it appears in the anime. Right now, it's just a song sung for fun but not connected to the animation.

So next week Malva vs Steven?

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How anticlimactic is this shit ?

>>28193151
>fire vs steel
So Steven will probably win

I guess I should've expected that. No one wins the Ashbowl, Ash frees himself.

His entire team and Mega Zard X vs. Mega Gyarados? That hardly seems fair.

I did not expect everything to be happening at once, but I guess that makes more sense. That also means that I was wrong, but Lysandre is the least of their worries.

Clembot...you shall be remembered as a hero. ;_;

>>28193139
The scene right before Alain is going all WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR

>>28192865
>Subplots
>Pokemon
Can you just enjoy the show? The thing ruining it is you guys trying to find anything more complex than what's presented

https://twitter.com/9kij7d1/status/771303822320738305
Wtg

>>28193142
Did Serena and Manon even wonder where Ash and Alain are?

>>28193144
>
Anon, it's canon. It's like the other songs that get released but aren't used in the anime either.

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>>28193154
It was actually a good battle, to be honest. It was cool seeing Ash VS an evil team leader because Alain surely didn't help at fucking all.

Last time Ash fought an evil team leader, instead of fighting his Pokemon he just blew him up.

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>>28193187
DELETE THIS

>>28193163
>implying Ash being freed by himself means there isn't a bowl winner

>>28193187
Oh my god is he having a seizure

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So this is the power of the anime... Whoa

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Friendly reminder that this is how a successful keikaku looks

>>28193187
dafuq japan

>>28193212
Too many Megaroids

T-Thanks Alain

>>28193212
Woah, Gyarados got fat. Might be time for him to go on the diet Pikachu did.

The mega ring was collecting energy for all of TF's shit, there is nothing saying Zard has any access to that power at all.

What else did I expect from Ashfags and /padt/.

Episode is available

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dXzs35k55Y

>>28193187
lol what the fuck is this shit?

>Alain's ring collects energy for Team Flare's mega laser
>This is revealed to Alain
>/padt/ interprets it as Zard collecting energy for himself

Now this is delusional.

>>28193173
Nothing like that there. He just says this is all thanks to Alan since they're using the mega evolution energy he gathered to control Zygarde.

>>28193212
He gonna blow up like Cell.

>One ashfag/troll pulls shit out of his ass
>/padt/ believes it because it fits their narrative

wew

THE ENERGY IS FOR THE LASER + CONTROLLING ZYGARDE

I REPEAT

THE ENERGY IS FOR THE LASER + CONTROLLING ZYGARDE

>>28193245
Of course, they are still grasping the straws

Kinda like how they go full /x/ tinfoil hat about Serena going to Alola

>>28193254
AHAHHAHAHAHAH!

B T F O
T
F
O

GRASPING THE STRAWS

>>28193254
i-is Alan still a cheater?

pls confirm he's a cheater pls i don't want to get BTFO again

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>>28193254
wtf i hate the anime now

>>28193254
LMAO! Ashfags BTFO'd!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>28193189
They did, OP pic is Serena reassuring Manon that Ash and Alain are ok

>>28193268
No. Someone was just shitposting.

Reminder Alan won 100% FAIR

>>28193265
Good to know. Now the conspiracy theorists can finally die.

>>28193285
HAHAHAHAH!!!!

TINFOIL FAGS

B T F O
T
F
O

>>28193254
>To control Zygarde

There we go, nothing about more power for Charizard

>>28193267
>>28193277
>>28193300
>falseflag and make shit up
>people fall for it
>someone says it's not true
>lel btfo
You can't make this shit up

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>>28193254
thanks based translato mano

GIVE IT UP FOR OUR MAN ALAIN

>>28193290
Great now all that's left is TF finale and shirtless Ash.

>>28193254
>Alain didn't cheat

How many times must Ashfag's be BTFO until they give up?

Alain won fair and square kek

>>28193227
>Bonnie mindbreak
>Filthy ningen
>WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR
>Ash and Frog being crucified
>A bunch of 2deep4u ideology throughout the episode
>Next week a major support character dies

This arc is getting kind of heavy. If you told me this was a Pokemon beforehand I'd probably be as in denial as the people who think the starter evos are fake.

>>28193304
Yeah you can, you just did

These dubs confirm Alain is still a cheating shit tho

>>28193304
It's because those ashfags were so delusional

Alan won fair and square. Ash losing was the executive's keikaku.

>>28193208
You were the ones saying whoever frees Ash wins the Ashbowl.

>>28193254
Thanks for the truth

Alain didn't cheat.

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>>28193317
ALAN SUGOI!!!!!!

>>28193327
He wasn't, based Adamant just confirmed it.

>>28193254
THANK YOU.

No rigging, but Alain is still garbage. He will turn himself in.

>>28193327
>tfw 4chins is on alain's side
REKT

>>28193353
>Garbage

Nigga....


I wonder what Ashfags will grasp at next

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I don't care how faraway you are, how did NOBODY see this shit?

I love how /padt/ is so desperate they fell for a shitposter before based translator BTFO'd them.

I hope the writers come out and say that there was no cheating and then this can die once and for all

Feels like adamant just tested edgezard's urine and it came negative.

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>>28193375
>Clearly thanking Adament for disproving Ashfags
>Jump on him to call him an Ashfag

Why would I fucking care if that thing isn't true

It's clear that Ash would've won if he was determines as he is now, he'll dumpster alan.

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Still, Alain will rot in jail after all this

Someone screencap this, too.

>>28193378
>Expecting logic from a kid's anime
>Especially Pokémon

So this is how despair feels. Not bad.

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just kill me.

So, just to fucking understand how shitty this whole thing up -

>Ash fucking lost the stupid rushed fucking shit League beside Shota fight (Alan fight was ok until the shitty ending)
>Ash not at least fighting Alan again and WINNING this time
>ALAN DIDN'T CHEAT IN THE END
>Anti-climatic as fuck Lysandere fight, Pyroar getting BTFO by mere seconds, Gyara vs 7 others
>hurr some boring Zygarde fight

Only Bonnie make it good for now. For fucking sake TV tokyo a fucking shit.


FUCK YOU TV TOKYO FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>28193386
I never called him an Ashfag.

They made a point of showing Ash remembering about Hari-san's predicament when Lysandre and Alan were talking. He'll take Alan's side and tell everyone he dindu nuffin.

>>28193378
Clemont and Clembot were in the gym, while Bonnie and Blaziken Mask were watching Zygarde, and Serena and Manon were at Lysandre Labs

Honestly should the anime just have a different protag during the Alola arc? That seems like the only way to save it now.

If they put Ash in Alola AND put Serena and Ash's Kalos pokemon out of the plot they might as well:

>make ash the biggest retard imaginable such as asking dipshit questions like "whats a pokeball" or "pokedex?" (Think Ultima 9's What's a Palidn?")
>Make him so stupid that he flat out hands pikachu to team rocket after they don't use a disguise and just say something like "were Oaks assistants, different people' "hurr okay" "team rocket motto"
>Give ash some kind of retard derp dance that set on stock footage when ever he does something stupid
>Drop the animation quality so bad it doesn't even use cg anymore and there's constant animation errors , constant shitty stock footage, and off model is everywhere
>Hell if they add a filler Alola league if the games have none, just have ash lose the first round.

Putting Ash in Alola pretty much means they DON"T give a shit anymore so why should they keep this charade up and just tell older viewers to fuck off