Serebii confirmed.

>>28185241
These are for the anime and there are things such as different artists

>>28185241
>the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name
that's wrong tho
That doesn't matter at all for animation, as voice acting is generally the last thing to happen.

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>>28185241

>>28185241
Do you have this saved to notepad or something? This post was seriously not worth it. Almost all of it isn't even indicative of anything one way or the other.

>>28185285>>28185276
>Le mallow
Red was in the art from the first trailer. These could be scrapped

>>28185330
Which ones?

>>28185330
>anime reference art for something that didn't make it to the games
?????????

>>28185330
Care to tell us where Red is exactly?

Joe literally said, after Mallow was revealed, that he would put these on Serebii but he doesn't want to ris ka cease and desist.

>>28185366

Not the same guy, but "Red" was in the concept for the water hotel.

Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real.

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>>28185210
What a joke. Why do people still listen to Joe again?

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>>28185210

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>>28185387
That thing on the bottom left? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

>>28185241
It's ANIME concept art.

It's not even made by gamefreak. The anime needs concept art and action poses so they know how to draw the characters.

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Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real.

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>>28185285
Everyone knows that's Skyla

>>28185210
Pre-mallow, no evidence.

>>28185439
Post-mallow, evidence.

Joe is just a big pussy.

>>28185241
>Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.

Gamefreak does not release all of its art.

Gamefreak does not magically pick a name and then do a design.

>>28185462
I see a few similarities

>>28185462
How cute

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What if Gamefreak purposely made these leaks to help prevent the real starter leaks from being noticed?

>>28185521
Roothoot?

>>28185275
This. Literally only retards believed it before the Mallow reveal, because prior to that there was no evidence besides the shit quality being consistent with the rest of Gen 7's Pokémon.

That it ended up being right does not justify the defense of it prior to Mallow, nor does it justify the millions of other fake leaks that turn up each generation.

Serebii was entirely right to call bullshit at this time because if he gave credit to every fake leak people would make even more.

>>28185541
Oh, thank you.

>>28185548
>Serebii was entirely right to call bullshit at this time

Clearly, he wasn't. Go to bed Serebii dick sucker.

>>28185541
Not saying anyone is wrong, but there is a rumor floating around you can dress as past generation protagonists. So you could be right in a way.

>>28185330
How the fuck a fake leak could get info on Mallow? Or if you mean that they were scrapped by GF, than by all means that is official sketches, and anyhing different should be double checked, since this is how they are doing the new drafts.

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>>28185599
>Not saying anyone is wrong, but there is a rumor floating around you can dress as past generation protagonists. So you could be right in a way.

I can be Gold again? I want this to happen.

Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real. :)

>>28185541
>red jacket and jeans
>IT"S RED GUYS
If anything, you are the one jumping the gun on this one, mallow on Tiger3 is much more visible and distinguishable than those pixels. You would have a decent argument if there was a pikachu by his side or something like that.

>>28185607
You didn't know that the girl in the picture is just some generic Hawaiian girl?
Or a traced and slightly modified Skyla.
Or some faker just got lucky.
Or this is rejected art from a disgruntled artist.
Or something else unfathomable that denialfags cook up in order to hide the fact they simply dislike the designs and feel personally attacked that GF would do that to them because they're entitled cunts.

There is no conspiracy here. The simplest answer is usually the correct one. Mallow is pretty strong evidence in favor of the concepts.

>>28185665
Take that with a grain of salt, friend. It's still only a rumor.

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>>28185541
Good point but how does this debunk Luchalitten & Co.?

If this concept art made it into the game, (see map) I don't see how they couldn't when Mallow appears on the concept art sheet.

>>28185704
I have no idea if you can't read or you have a weird way to express agreement.

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>>28185704
>Some faker just got lucky

Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real.

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>>28185241
I really hope you are right. I hate these designs.

>>28185766
Oh god not you again

>>28185745
>weird way to express agreement
You mean sarcasm at the expense of the idiots who keep spouting the nonsense?

Yes, it was an expression of agreement meant to showcase the mental gymnastics denialfags perform when attempting to disprove them.

>>28185210
Now I kinda wish for them to be real just to see Joe getting BTFO

>>28185569
I'm not that Anon but he made the right call. You can't just assume things to be real without proof when you run something such as Serebii.

>>28185745
>>28185752
uhhh I think he was being sarcastic, friends

>>28185541
>thinking it's red and not a fisherman

>>28185814
It's the exact same formatting as the Kalos starters' final evolution concepts and anime shit is how we learned about Servine, while not knowing its name.

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Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real.

>>28185917
Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real.

Even if the second evos show litten upright, Roothoot holding an arrow and seal turning white on the top half, people will still deny those leaks to the very end.

>>28185241
please save this to mock denial fags when they get btfo

>>28185931
>>28185845
>>28185730
Are... are you OK?

>>28185998
Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real.

>>28185808
The problem is that you started right off the bat using the exact same arguments used by shittards, by the moment I read the last phrases, I don't know if you are being sarcastic or is just plain idiot. We can't see the face you are making while writing that down, or the tone of the voice that had in your mind, so we can only assume sarcasm by absurdity, but your absurdity was the same stuff a retard trying to reply would say.

>>28185972
My thoughts exactly

>>28185712

I know. It's one I want to happen.

>>28185766

How did Roothoot work our for ya?

>>28186175
I hope it's true as well!

>>28185330
You understand that easily could have been a very early concept design for the male character right?

>>28186351
Or just a placeholder, since I'm sure that the protag design isn't something they have when they do initial concept sketches.

>>28185351
In any case, it wasnt the alola male trainer either... Gg

>>28185489
>Joe is just a big pussy.
Joe wanting to be cautious and keep his site up without GameFreak hounding him like back in 2010 for him using a Black and White ROM apparently makes him a pussy and a coward. Seriously?

>>28185489
Someone changing opinion due to new evidence makes them a pussy?

>>28186442
>the problem is that he firstly didn't express an opinion, he asserted that those evos were fake without having any evidence of being true or false

its weird that he would go out of his way to try and disprove these real leaks considering the last time he did so it blew up in his face.

>>28185276
Someone deleted my post

>>28186442
not putting up what he thinks is true because he 'might' get cnd'd makes him a pussy

>>28186401
Go to bed Joe.

oh hey, it's a 'the guy who's obsessed with serebeii' episode.

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>>28185832
He literally made the wrong call though

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>>28185210
ahh YES, joe marrick my friend. I hate that mermaid evo with passion.

Also BALLIO IS KING!

The time comes near for you mermaid fags:
>next announcements

>>28185832
>I'm not that Anon but he made the right call

No he didn't. He is literally and objectively wrong. He could have said "they're probably fake" or "I don't know," or he could have just not responded. But he had to say "OF COURSE they're fake" as if he's some know it all.

There was no proof these were fake either, and unlike Roothoot and 99% of other shit fake leaks there's no immediate tell that they're fake. There were plenty of threads where people brought up valid points for why these had a solid chance to be real even before Mallow was announced.

>>28187143
He isn't me

So there's more than one

>>28185401
Like everyone has been pointing out, this is not for the games, this is for the anime.

>>28185684
Some guy posted a concept art from a game GF is developing and the style (tons of little drawings with tons of notes) fits with the starter leaks.

>>28185548
>Literally only retards believed it before the Mallow reveal, because prior to that there was no evidence besides the shit quality being consistent with the rest of Gen 7's Pokémon.

Or maybe people believed it because unlike every other shitty fan-art they didn't "just get bigger!" and they actually have interesting designs that felt like they were built with several people putting input and care into them?

Compared to other Gamefreak concept art, they don't fit.
The formatting is wrong in that they don't have any diagrams and not nearly enough notes. Think engineer's notebook sketches and the level of description that has to go into it.
The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail in Litten's hands and Rowlet's legs and feet.
Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3". All concept art has the name.
People are suggesting the reason Ash and Pikachu are there is because it's for the anime, however, if it was for the anime, the Pokemon would have to already be completed for the game and have a finalized name.


I'm not saying they ARE definitely fake. They may even come from GF. But it is unlikely that these are real.

>>28185458
>The art is.. wrong. Look at all the simplistic work and lack of detail
Welcome to Gen VII designs.

>>28185210
you're fucking retarded dude. this says absolutely nothing. jack shit.

>>28185541
His hat looks like an usher's cap. You can see the strap running down the side of his head, and there doesn't appear to be a brim on it (the bit that looks like a brim is actually the bottom of the pillar in the background - see the one on the left for the red-brown detail that matches).

Plus, that's Lillie (presumably - also, Lillie confirmed before we knew it, holy crap I never realised) with a suitcase outside what could be a hotel, so an usher would make sense.

>>28185862
This. People are retarded.

>>28185766
>all concept art is the same so they are fake
Except all concept art isn't the same, retard.
Also: Mallow.

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>>28185766
>he believes in roothoot
>doesn't believe in the chink leaks

>>28189311
It's pasta

>>28189333
Yes but it's the same shitposting pasta by the same shitposter, and he's a raging homosexual, so we're going to call him out on it.

>>28185330
Please explain cause I don't understand your logic.

>>28185782
>Those Minior in the fountain

>>28190673
They're sprinklers, you fucktard.

>>28185439
>But they are also cease and desist bait

Hah, go tell that to PokeJungle, they've had that concept art for quite a while now and they still haven't removed it from their website despite the fact that they warned about the possibility of taking them off.

>>28193207
Pokejungle is literally just a tumblr blog run by a nobody, while Joe has confirmed official ties to the Pokemon Company in some way or another.

>>28185210
>>28185432
>>28185829
>>28187431

I love retards who can't read dates, and can't comprehend series of events.

>>28193207
Pokejungle is small so nobody cares.
Serebii is the biggest. If he posts it, bam there's a C&D

>>28185401
>Gamefreak doesn't use placeholder names like "Tiger3, Owl3, Seal3".
This is the part that honestly makes me skeptical. If they're essentially finalised designs why don't they have names associated with them yet?

>>28193572
Serebii doesn't post them because it would make his connections in TPCi mad.

>>28185210
>Serebii logic
>"Did it come from 4chin?"
>Fake
>"Is the source anything but Nintendo/GF?"
>Fake
>"If proven as real, from a leak or otherwise, is it real?"
>Always believed it was real. It has all the tellings of realism.

Serebii is damage control made manifest.

>>28193607
Because they are anime refence sheets, not ment for the games. Animators don't need names, that's just the job of the voice actors. One case, even if it wasn't for the anime, were the name of the pokemon was not given was in Smash Bros where Greninja's reference sheet was sent in order to be implemented in the games. But the crew had no idea what the pokemon's names even was only later on when new news from GF came.

>>28193275
I love retards who suck Joe's dick, and still can't tell that he was wrong

>>28194041
Nigga, he was wrong, but this was before mallow was revealed, so he was right to presume them fake.

I ain't even like the nigga, but you fucking retards get so ass blasted by the fucker you'd think he came to your house and personally raped your entire family.

>>28186048
It's pretty evident if you use basic reading comprehension it was sarcasm. You're just a moron.

>>28193207

Pokejungle doesn't care, Joe is just a pussy

>>28189442
I think he is saying OPs artwork could be place holder/scrapped artwork like the Red-like trainer in the reveal trailer.

>>28193263
>Joe has confirmed official ties to the Pokemon Company in some way or another
>official ties
No he doesn't. A couple of times someone in the know gave him some small bits of information. That's it.

>>28193263
>People actually believe Serebii is Gamefreak

>>28185521
*wink wink* *nudge nudge*

>>28195029
Explain how he knew all the gen IV English pokémon names then.
He isn't connected to GF at its core, but he has clearly collaborated with TPCi more than once.

>>28194086
>so he was right to presume them fake.

Even though he literally wasn't?

You Serebiifags are fucking hilarious, even when he's wrong you still pretend he was right, and then you make retarded posts like >>28193263 and act like he's some official entity.