Why is Gen 5 so difficult to defend?

Half of gen 5 pokemon are trash desu

>>28178948
autism speaks

Because you could only use the new Pokemon in Black and White. People were harsher on them because they were their only options, and in some people's opinion cockblocked them from their tried-and-true bros.

>>28178919
>But try to convince someone that Gen 5 had good Pokemon and everyone loses their minds in a frothing rage.

Its because GenV has like 20 good designs of 150.

>>28178948
You're trash

>>28178948
you're right.

the good ones are still pretty forgettable

There's a reason why they make fun of Garbodor and Vannillish but not Bisharp, Hydreigon, or any other "not-object" Pokemon

>>28178919
>trying to slide the attention from shit designs by mentioning genwunners

why are unovatards so stupid to not realize pretty much every other gen has a better ratio between good designs and shit ones while unova is flooded with garbage?

people shitting on Gen V (best gen) is my trigger

>>28178978
>and in some people's opinion cockblocked them from their tried-and-true bros
Yeah it sure was a travesty not being able to use a pidgey for the 87th time in a row

>>28178980
Off the top of my head, and including prevos (because final evos matter the most IMO):
Serperior
Samurott
Stoutland
Liepard
Krookodile
Excadrill
Sigilyph
Bisharp
Hydreigon
Ferrothorn
Galvantula
Gigalith
Golurk
Bisharp
Mienshao
Braviary
Carracosta
Archeops
Zoroark
Sawsbuck
Jellicent
Chandelure

Including prevos how many Gen V Pokemon is that?

>>28178919

garbodor is actually quite a well designed pokemon that keeps the garbage design while still looking like a pokemon (trubbish is also quite cute). Only reason people hate it is because, well its a garbage pokemon.

Although I do have to agree that quite a lot of gen 5 pokemon had crap designs like Swanna and the Vanillite line.

>>28178964
buzzwords: the post
call him racist and smogonfag too at this point

>>28178948
Yep

>>28179029
The image I used was for the discussion of the topic only, it has nothing to do with genwunners.

>>28178919
I think we can ALL agree that many of G5's Pokemon were uninteresting and not creative. But there's plenty of content to enjoy, ignoring those particular ones. If it's not a good enough experience to be fun for a certain someone, then it just comes down to opinion, and that's when the objectively bad designs stand out.

>>28178919
/vp/ hivemind, Verlisify, his followers and other normies

>>28178948
No, 2/156 are trash.

>>28178919
>frillish line
>scraggy line
>muh huge head fetish and silly oants hehe
>good ever

>hydreigon
>not being full trash and disaster
Is this the actual bait, OP?
Some higher subtle level bait?

>pokememes.memebase.com
Nevermind.

>>28179050
>Samurott
Stopped reading there.

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>>28179055
Garbodor looks like a potato with gems in it. It's supposed to "represent" garbage without actually looking like it.

Same problem as a lot of new Pokemon. i.e. "limbs" that are just ovals, "fur" that just looks like plastic, etc.

>>28179060
To be fair, it was a fitting response.

>>28179087
>I think we can ALL agree that many of G5's Pokemon were uninteresting and not creative

No we can't all agree, faggot.

>>28179011

So what's the difference between the good ones in Gen. 5 and good ones from other gens?

Literally a ice cream
Literally trash
Literally a gear

>>28178919
As the Gen with the most original Pokemon in its dex to date, I think we can all compromise that Gen 5 had some of the worst AND best designs in the franchise.
Yes Pokes like the monkey trio, Genie Incarnate formes, Keldeo, and Klinklang are some of the most unappealing Pokemon, but then you have such quality designs like Hydreigon, Haxorus, Volcarona, Braviary, Golurk, Sawsbuck, and Galvantula, and you'd have to be really *special* to tell me that the latter are not well designed or aesthetically pleasing in any form.

In the end, it honestly depends on whether you think Gen 5 had a bigger ratio of good or bad Pokemon, because the majority are in the grey area. For example, Scrafty is either a love it or hate it Pokemon, and there's no inbetween for the majority.

>>28179029
>all Gen. 5 Pokemon are bad

ebin

>>28179153
You look plastic

>>28179261
>Hydreigon
That flower head faggot ruined a great concept.

>>28179137
>Is this actual bait OP
I dunno, for someone who thinks Hydreigon is "trash", you tell me.

>>28178978
People who were butthurt about a restrictive pokedex should have already gotten over it in Gen 3. In Gen 5 you could at least still transfer pokemon from previous games giving you every option in the world anyway. RSE were completely locked out of transfer options.

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>>28179087
>I think we can ALL agree that many of G5's Pokemon were uninteresting and not creative.
No, we can't. I found many of them creative (or at the very least, fun and easy on the eyes).

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>>28179326
Looks fine to me. flower head sound like such a pathetic, asinine complaint.

>first animated sprites of Pokemon
>a lot of terrible designs
>Swords of Justice
But I will say that Generation 5 introduced some of the best Pokegirls.

>>28178919
OP here, please ignore the "genwunners" caption, this is the only image I could find that conveys what my topic is about.

>>28179087
No we can't, fag

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>>28179055
>dissing on my main man Swanna

LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A COUPLE OF HATERS OVA HERE

>>28179143
>t. I'm a moron who thinks sea lions have legs

>>28179378
>flower head sound like such a pathetic
Still more valid than "looks fine to me".

>>28179205
>>28179424
>village idiot is always the loudest

>>28179362
And this is where subjectivity comes into play. I like the G5 collection more than most of /vp/, but I'm not blind. Keyword: ratio. See >>28179261

>>28179524
A badass 3 headed demon hydra that risks an interesting design quirk where the other 2 heads are relegated to where hands would be.

"The flower head" looks more like regular frills and is not inoffensive in the slightest. Dunno why it pisses you off.

>>28179710
>A badass 3 headed demon
Are you 12?

>>28179735
>50% of fanbase

>>28179735
>Everything is edgy, that's why I adore cutemons like the little girl I wish I were

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la 5gen es una de las mejores, putos

>>28179326
>body becomes a sphere as if was designed by an inflatable fetish artist from deviantart
>where the hydra theme go?
>where are the legs
>what are those black things on its back?
>why does it suddenly levitate?
>those hideous eyes
>the whatever is that purple flower feather skin thing on its head
>puppet arms just because
>ugly stripes. with stripes.

Everything went wrong once Zweillous has evolved.

Pokemon were alright. Games just weren't very fun or memorable in many people's opinions. I for l me remember jack shot about both the games, only remember The N dude and Roxie. Can't even remember who the BW2 rival was, he was so unremarkable.

Doesn't help that the anime was shit too.

All the other gens are just more memorable.

>>28179971
>i hate girly things,,,take my edgy behavior seriously,,,or else,,,bad things will happen,,,

>>28178948
This is, I think, the main criticism. I'm not a 'genwunner' by any means, but I did dislike a sizeable proportion of the Gen V designs. There were exceptions, sure, but on the whole I found them disappointing. I think the starters were particularly poor, and I'm certainly not alone in thinking this

>>28179060
>buzzwords: the post
>only one buzzword
You've done it now.

>>28178919
Are those meant to be examples of "good" Gen V Pokemon?

>>28180155
no need to get uspet after being called out for something you've done wrong, we are here to learn, anon
don't worry ^-^

>>28180198
doesn't look like an answer
wrong quote?

>>28178919
I love gen 5! It's my favorite by far!
I also don't waste time arguing with other people, I've never seen anyone actively shit on my taste, so I've never had the need to defend it, and even if that happened, I don't see a reason to actually defend it.

>>28178919

Garbodor isn't even bad. It's a trash monster.

It reminds me of Tetsuo: The Iron Man. It's a great design. When it was first revealed, it pretty instantly became my favorite. He's no longer my favorite, but I still have a soft spot and he's up there.

>>28180218
why are you laughing? haha
hmm sorry
laughing makes me laugh to lol haha n_n

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>>28179153
Woooo I can cherry pick too!

>>28180374
>just and some fur to Pichu
Good cherry picking.

>>28180246

Pretty much this. Gen V is easily my favorite gen and if some anon hates Gen V, that's cool I don't too much care. Not like some random anon screaming on the internet about how "Gen V is the worst thing ever!" is going to make me like Gen V any less.

>>28178919
Gen V Pokemon? All those originated in X/Y :^)

>>28179153
It's almost as if different animals all over the world look different or something.

>>28178919
Because you need taste to like Garbodor, which is something most people lack. I remember seeing a site where some guy talked about how great Garbodor was, wish I had saved it.

>>28180417

Fuck you, Minccino a cute. A CUTE!

>>28180417
Not the point you cock loving retard

>>28178919

Gen V is the Metroid Fusion of the Pokemon franchise.

>>28178948
>triggered.jpeg

>>28180138
>love the fuck out of Hydreigon
>love the fuck out of Lilligant
Don't mind me I'll be here laughing at you

>>28179137
>not liking Hydreigon or Scrafty
Kill yourself

>>28180514
You know what? let's add some more fur and then bang! we have an evolution.

>>28179463
It shouldn't have been a sea lion in the first place, retard. The designers even said they went from sea otter to sea lion solely because they ran out of ideas.

I actually like a lot of Gen 5's designs. Whimsicott and Krookodile are in my top 10 faves, and I love Scrafty, Liepard, and Archeops too.

Games weren't memorable at all though, like >>28180119 said.

>>28180535
Is Fusion the most polarizing quality game in the series? I'd think that was Metroid Prime 2, which seems like a better comparison.

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>>28180119

>Can't even remember who the BW2 rival was, he was so unremarkable.

Rage building

>>28180699
>games weren't memorable
Say anything else about Gen 5 but this is the only negative thing I'd have to disagree upon.
More emphasis on the storyline wasn't memorable?
The gym leaders having a bigger role beyond their occupation wasn't memorable?
N wasn't memorable?
Colress wasn't memorable?
The final boss being Ghetsis and not the champion wasn't memorable?
The freaking PWT wasn't memorable?

>>28180155
His post was two words and one was a buzzword. His post was 50% buzzword. In fact, autism speaks is a meme response so it was also 100% meme. Basically it was a garbage post.

>>28180106
>body becomes a sphere as if was designed by an inflatable fetish artist from deviantart
I guess every fat Pokemon must be from deviantart
>where the hydra theme go?
Are you blind?
>where are the legs
Vestigial limbs. Look it up, an actual realistic biological trait.
>what are those black things on its back?
Wings. What now you have a problem, when we've had Pokemon wierder wings befote.
>why does it suddenly levitate?
Are you retarded?
>those hideous eyes
Eyes look great. Get over your Toriyama eyes.
>the whatever is that purple flower feather skin thing on its head
Frills. Look it up, an actual realistic and biological trait.
>puppet arms just because
Yeah just because. I'm not bothered by it though and I don't know why you are.
>ugly stripes. with stripes.
wtf does this mean?

>>28180156
Why don't you tell us why they're not?

The designs were the only thing bad about gen, prove me wrong
>pro tip:
>you can't

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>>28178919
>Gen 2 Pokemon sucks!
No it doesnt. See: Tyranitar, Scizor, Steelix, Ampharos, Typhlosion, Crobat
Anon: Okay you're right, Gen 2 does have some cool Pokemon

>Gen 4 Pokemon sucks!
No it doesn't. See: Torterra, Staraptor, Gallarde, Gliscor, Luxray, Garchomp
Anon: Okay you're riget, Gen 4 does have some cool Pokemon

>Gen 5 Pokemon sucks!
No it doesn't. See: Hydreigon, Volcarona, Braviary, Golurk, Galvantula, Chandelure
Anon: Lol fuck no Gen 5 has no good Pokemon you idiot.

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People shitting on gen V designs when gen IV exists

>>28178919
But only 4 of the Pokemon in the top half of that image are good.

>>28179359
Ehh there still was abra tentacool Geodude and magikarp early on

>>28181287
>Gigalith
>Excadrill
>Volcarona
>Hydreigon
>Joltik
>Scrafty
>Leavanny
>Pawniard
That's 8 anon.

>>28180535
no, Gen 5 is the Sonic Unleashed of Pokemon. There's some good, there's some bad.

But for some people, it was their introduction to the series, so there is no bad.

>>28181348
>Excadrill
>Scrafty
>Leavanny
>good

top kek

I'll give you Gigalith and Pawniard

>>28181389
>Not liking based steel clawed mole
>Not liking based gangsta lizard
>Not liking based parental bug

Is this bait?

>>28181424
No, you just have shit taste.

>>28178919
>Why is gen 5 so hard to defend?

Trust me, I don't like gen 5 but it's fine.

Gen IV has it much worse

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>>28180697
Samurott isn't 100% sea lion anyway. Only a person that doesn't know shit about otter anatomy would call it a sea lion.

>>28181463
>You just have shit taste
Nigger you legitimately hate good, well designed Pokemon. You have no reason to talk, like at all.

Kys for being the one with the objective shitty taste here, faggot.

If you think Oshawott is a good Pokemon, you're wrong.

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>>28181389
I don't think I've ever heard a person not say Excadrill wasn't a good design

>>28181592
>good, well designed Pokemon
I bet you like the Seismitoad and Swoobat lines too.

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>>28178948
>>28179029
>>28179137
>>28179238
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

>>28179382
Crystal had animated sprites.

>>28181681
It's the drill on top of its head that ruins it for me.

>>28178919
Gen 5 had some pretty good designs, not as much as other gens but still had some nice mons.

>>28181714
this guy again.

your comparing apples and oranges here dude.

>>28181720
>excadrill
>drill
That's just not liking the concept behind it

>>28181764
Aren't apples and oranges both fruits though?

>>28181773
if that was the case I'd be complaining about the ones on his hands too

>>28181798
I guess, at least you can tell he's steel.

Props to you anon for a real criticism though

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>>28179050
>forgetting the brolosis line

>>28181694
Nope. Try again kiddo.

>>28181714
imagine being this dedicated to spend actual time on spamming this image

>>28180825
I can't remember what most of the game was about let alone the names of the protagonists believe me when i say they were the most forgettable games in the pokemon frachise

>>28178919
Ironically, Trashbagmon is a good design.

Gen 5 gets WAY too much backlash, that I will agree with. I honestly don't get why people hate the Pokemon so much. They felt like redesigns of Gen 1 for me.

>>28182072
Honestly, it sounds like you're the only one with that problem.

>>28182072
Most forgettable for you m8. Others may or may not agree, don't generalize.

Gen V does have a lot of really great designs
>Reuniclus line
>Bisharp
>Golurk
>Volcarona
>Tirtouga
>Archeops
>Krookodile
>Beartic
>Haxorus
>Eelektross
>Escavalier
>Accelgor
>Beeheeyem
>Scolipede
>Musharna
>Zebstrika
>Leavanny
>Excadrill
>Audino
>Palpitoad
>Darmanitan
>Ferroseed
>Scrafty

Reuniclus is a super fucking high tier design, so I don't want to hear shit, even if the starters sucked.

>>28182110
that's exactly why, they gave us 150+ new pokemon and most of them were redesings of pokemon we already had and they were not good at all,

>>28181714
Seriously mang, are you a bot?

>>28182150
i'll give you that, after all i think this was a lot of people's first pokemon game but still

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>>28182187
I love this guy too, reminds me of Kirin from MonHun.
I used him for a lot of the game

>>28182203
>they were not good at all

Nah, I'd take stuff like the Excadrill and the Gigalith line over the Dugtrio and Golem one.

>>28182271
excadrill is on of my favorites, but i was not talking about them

>>28178919
I personally liked leavanny. Galvantula, hydreigon, Sandile and chandelure
Interesting Pokemon and looked neat.

A lot of the others were meh or not useful for the team I used. So I didn't use them.


Most gen 5 crybaby's will translate this as me shitting on their precious pile of Pokemon.

That is not the case, but honestly it's not a matter of hating gen 5..

>But with over 500 fucking Pokemon they already made enough choices to choose from and a lot of better/more popular options.

If I'm limited to 6 Pokemon on a team. I can't take all my favorite Pokemon nor do I want to take subpar choices. So will I take a galvantula? Not always. What with having to choose between ampharos, and magnezone.

So ffs guys, it's just a shitty generation, who cares if they don't like your shit

>>28180825
It's just me, though. I played the games during a really dark time in my life that I'm repressing memories of.
I remember Bianca and Cheren, I remember N, and Ghetsis, the desert, and the pain of trying to find the Pan trio wild.

What I don't remember are towns, small plot details, most gym leaders, etc. Stuff that isn't regurgitated on threads like this.

Also, I never played the sequels, so no I don't recall the PWT.

>>28179125
Beat me to it.

>>28182271
Just because something is slightly less shit than shit doesn't make it anything resembling good.

>>28182349
(Me)
Adding on that Gen 4 are like this for me as well. I basically have a huge memory gap from Gen 3 to Gen 6.
I'm trying to find the games for cheap(ish) somewhere though, since my laptop can't run DS roms and I wanna experience it again.

>>28182268
It's a shame it's a
>physical electric type
because it is a top-tier design.

>>28179425
Literally my mom's swan

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>>28181198
Gen 4 gave us the cutest and bravest birds.

>>28180218
uwu

What the fuck do you guys even consider a bad design anyways? This whole shit is fucking subjective. I, for one, hate how fucking bland most of Gen 1 and Gen 2 Pokemon are.

>>28182410
WHY IS WILD CHARGE ONLY 90 ATTACK IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIIIIRRRR
>Can learn Flame Charge
>But can't be breed Flare Blitz through Rapidash or something.
>The only physical Move Tutor move is Bounce
REEEEEEEE

>>28178919
I think its because gen 5 had an excess of 'clones' of existing lines. Stuff that was clearly meant to fill in for another species since they were adamant on the new only thing. Thus you get Sawk and Throh instead of the hitmons, Audino in place of chansey, stuff like that.

That means people automatically judge things compared to their counterparts, and are thus more critical. Its hard to care about Maractus when Cacnea already exists.

>>28182217
How would he know what posts are shitting on designs you fucking retard?

>>28182473
Some of G2 designs are too fucking bizarre for me.
>Girafarig
>Sudowoodo
>Remoraid>Octillery
>Pineco>Foretress
>Dunsparce, Misdreavus and Sneasel were obscure yokai things
I warmed up to most of them but damn if it wasn't weird.
Also, Ledian was fucking useless garbage mon.

>>28179261
>Klinklang
>unappealing

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>>28178919

>>28182333
>Not wanting 95 accuracy Thunders
Also

>It's just a shitty generation
I hope you're applying this to every Gen.

Anyone else could defend Gen 2 or 4 but someone calls Gen 5 shit and we should just sit there and take it?

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>>28179010
Opinion noted, Not Questy.

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Post favorite Gen 5 mons

>>28182663
Nigger you're just memeing, there are dozens of great Gen V Pokemon crossed off.

Honestly at this point i believe that's what the Gen V hate really is: a meme.

>>28182722
this is a person who made his whole first series about Hoenn and sequel was Kalos

Take that with a grain of salt

Gotta give Gen V credit for having the second best designed cover legendary too in zeckrom. Only Xerneas has a better design.

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>>28178919
>>28178978
I think it's because the Gen 5 dex was DESIGNED for a game that only had new pokemon in it, so the pokemon just ended up just being redundant and silly.

More than new pokemon usually are, anyway

>>28182727
Nice defense mechanism. Name one.

>>28179261
I am still not sure how I feel about scrafty

>>28183090
Eelektross line.
Excadrill line.
Fucking Galvantula

Like I said, stop memeing.

>>28180119
Everybody is entitled to their opinions, just don't pretend everybody shares yours. Designs aside BW/BW2 were literally among my favorite entries.

Every single gen has shit designs and badass designs.
And the anime doesn't count because it's fucking garbage.

>>28181198
Gen IV was my absolute worst. I hated the starters the fugly genwun evolutions and the legends.

>>28183148
Eelektross line is ugly, Excadrill line looks awful since it has a blade running right out of its skull through its skin, and Galvantula ruined Joltik's potential.

>>28182391
Your laptop cant run ds roms? Mang how old is that thing?

>>28183279
>Eelektross line is ugly
say that to my fucking face, you faggot.

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/thread

>>28183279
>Eelektross line is ugly
Yeah cause you'd totally expect a lamprey Pokemon to look cute
>Excadrill line looks awful
Shit taste confirmed
>Galvantula ruined Joltik's potential
Fucking how?

Holy shit I can't even fathom how awful your taste is.

>>28183365
I would

>>28183383
doesn't have to look cute, but don't make it ugly like some slob -- you don't see me praising tynamo for going the 'cute' route, and the lamprey elements took a shit on the line, they should've stayed separate so the electric eel could be its own line

drilbur looks dumb as fuck with that face and excadrill's size on top of that thing in its head looks like a stuffed up design

galvantula looks like they took a yellow spider base and slapped spider parts on without regard for aesthetics, nothing looks smoothly done like Joltik or Ariados

I can fathom yours

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>>28182663
How can someone live with taste this horrible?
>Hating on Leavanny
Now you just crossed the line dude.

>>28183484
>can't even type correctly

And who says Unovabortions are underaged

>>28179425
My only problem with it is that it's fucking wings are in that position like it's scolding me. Fuck you Swanna, you take out the god damn trash if it bothers you so much, bitch.

>>28178948
Literally.

Gen 5 just wasn't appealing. No little things ya know. Like how the pokeballs shake in gen 4 when it's going to level up

>>28183505
leavanny looks like some waifushit but it's the face that is really a letdown, gen V pulled off better bugs

>>28183508
what is correctly, fag? if you're gonna nitpick about the separate lines it's because they're addressing separate points or are you too dumb to figure that out?

>>28183604
>no little things

What you mean like individual gym themes, reusing repels, shiny charm, wild doubles, rustling grass, season, Ferris wheel trainers

>>28183637
>no capital letter

>>28183649
And yet I remember.nine of those

>>28178919
I admit I skipped this gen solely because of the amount of bad designs in the gen. But there were also pretty decent designs that made me want to come back. Subjectively, the gen had a lot of good designs or straight up shit designs. If I hadn't disliked a lot of the pokemon, I probably would've considered it my favorite gen solely due to mechanics

>>28183661
how pedantic can you be? lmao this isn't an essay you desperate fuck, or do you want me to point out the lack of proper grammar in every post in this thread, or even on this board?

>>28183666
So you didn't actually play the games then, did you?

I gotta admit, quite a lot of gen 5 Pokémon have grown on me over the years, but I still agree with the notion that the gen 5 dex overall had the biggest ratio of bad > good Pokémon designs of all gens.

>>28183802
I did

>>28178919
It's because Gen V actually has some of the worst designs in the game. Now, I fuckin love me my Gen 5, it's my favorite gen, a lot of my all-time bros come out of there, but the designs that are dumb don't even have a lot of charm to them. Yeah, we can point at the pile of sludge that is Muk, but he's simple enough that he gets his design across easily, and he really embodies it. It works, if silly.

Garbador doesn't. It's a bag of trash. Cool. I can dig the concept. Trubbish is cute enough, so I can go with it. But Garbador doesn't look silly or charming for being what it is - it's a fucking mess of brown and green with weirdly colored rocks in it, it's not even some kind of identifiable trash. If it was cup lids, or parts of a burger, it'd work better. We see that it has straws for fingers, and parts of the arm. That's good! He's a pile of trash and we see the trash. So why isn't the rest of trash actually, well, trash? It doesn't work. It's a great concept that was executed well with Trubbish, but not so well with Garbador.

And the other commonly known offender is Vanilluxe. I like Vanilluxe, sort of. Not my favorite Ice 'mon, but it's cute. The problem here is the concept is hard for casuals to grasp. It's a fuckin' ice cream cone. Where things like magnets work in Gen 1 because it's very clear that it's a man-made Pokemon, it makes more sense, and it kind of floats and does it's thing and people can just as easily accept it as a robot as it's kind of technology, it's not as easy to look at a double-cone ice cream and go "oh, that makes sense to be a Pokemon, okay".

Another objectmon most casuals don't care for is Chandelure, but I've found that once you give them the "it's a Ghost, it's posessing the lamp" most people easily accept it.

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>>28183844
And after that it comes down to individual taste (I'm not a fan of Bisharp despite loving Steel-types) and that a decent number of the dex is just "Gen 1, again" with things like the Gigalith and Conkeldurr lines clearly being new versions of the Golem and Machamp lines - right down to being trade evos. I love Gigalith and Conkeldurr, but it's very clear what they were doing there, and if they at least changed the method of evo I'd be less insulted.

Past that, it's the first gen where the rivals being your neighborhood friends feels super forced, and most people here about that and don't want it. They want that asshole rival they got in Gen 1/2. People that started with Gen 3 are more likely to be forgiving of this, I think. Sort of piggy-backing on the "I don't like new things" train, BW exclusively having new Pokemon until the post-game pissed off a lot of people. They want to play with their bros, and I can understand but I think a lot of people that hold BW in a high regard really loved it for that reason because it forced them to try new things. I know that's why I love it. This, of course, effected the sales of BW2, being fucking terrible, so most people never even played the better half, even if they gave BW a shot.

So, yeah. I love Gen 5 and I think they're the best group of games the franchise has, but it's pretty silly to think that it should be easily accepted when it did so many things new and so many things old at the same time. A very polarizing game, but polarizing anything tend to actually be great, with the largest nay-sayers just not liking change.

2/2

>>28183844
>It's because Gen V actually has some of the worst designs in the game.
Nothing's ever going to be worse than gen 2 in terms of design.

>>28183997
You can fling your opinion anywhere you want. You can also post an unpopular opinion with no evidence to back it up. Here's a (You).

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>>28183484
Not him but
>Expecting an electric eel
Looks like you set yourself up for dissapointment, because it sounds like you don't like Eelektross due to it being based on a lamprey alone. I also don't see how it's ugly in the slightest.

It seems that thing on Excadrill's head was put in for this quirk alone. They should animate an attack like this in 3D so it justifies it being there.

And your complaints about Galvantula doesn't even make sense. "It doesn't look smooth"? "Tacked on spider parts"? It actually looks more smooth than Ariados. Why the hell are there two extra legs on top of the abdomen perpetually sticking up?

>>28184087
and that's why I don't like Samurott either, even though the other 2 in its line didn't promise much, it felt like a slap in the face making it look so different

having something that big embedded in your skull just looks painful and I try not to cringe every time I look at it

it's namely the blue parts and segments on Galvantula barring the tips of the feet, they look so out of place

Based on the anon that doesn't like Eelektross, Excadrill, and even Galvantula of all Pokemon, Gen V seems to be the only Gen where everyone can find something they dislike out of any of the 156 Pokemon. That's why it seems so hard to defend, and why there are such heated arguments over what's a good designed Gen V Pokemon. It's so rediculously polarized.

>>28180816
that's all he did for the entire god damn game for ONE purrloin
he just hands you thunderbolt at the end of the journey, what in the shit
he also never unleashed his rage, at that point it just became a catchphrase

>>28184442
I think it's safe to say everyone likes Volcarona, but maybe I'm glossing over someone whose negative opinion I missed regarding it.

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Gen 5 could have done better

>>28184611
I heard a couple people call it mememoth because it's in OU. So I'm sure ALL of /vp/ hates it.

>>28178919
Shit designs outnumbered good designs by a large margin. Some cute stuff is a subjective topic to most from what I hear vocalized. This ratio is much bigger considering some of the anons that don't like edgy mons

>>28183543
It's literally Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. It's great.

>>28184611
I think what separates Gen V from other Gens is something like this example:
Say for Gen 3, in a Pokemon community you'd probably find only 10 people who dislike certain Gen 3 Pokemon. But for anything in Gen 5 you'd early see up to 20 people dislike the design.

>>28183315
About three years now. It's a pretty cheap one.

>>28182677
Every generation is either not shit, has shit, or is just....shitty.

Gen 5 is the latter.

Also
>95% accuracy thunder
Should be
>100% accuracy thunder due to rain

Otherwise what's the point of thunder.

>>28185901
>Gen V is the latter
How come?

And I've hit stuff 9/10 with compound eyes Galvantula.

>>28179050

You can't just list a bunch of pokemon from the gen you like as if they're objectively good. I'm okay with Samurott but the majority hates it. I also dislike Jellicent.

Your opinions aren't fact.

>>28183997
As a whole? Nah I'd probably give it to 4. I thought 2 was pretty good, if lacking anything that made it feel very different from 1. Really, the dex felt like 1.5, and then Gen 3 had it's own identity bringing in it's own regional bird and bugs and whatnot. 4 was just a mess of cross-gen evos that felt awkward, especially the baby evos, but some of it's new stuff I thought was okay. The smaller dex with so many additions to pre-existing lines kills it though. 5 had the un/fortunate case of having to stand completely on it's own which why some of it felt so much like just alternate universe Gen 1. Gen 6 was pretty decent overall but too small, and had to be weighted so heavily in favor of Fairy types that there's just no way it could ever stand on it's own.

For new dexes, I'd probably say from best to worst is 5 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 6 > 4.

5, 3, and 1 are very complete and standalone, and 5 had much better typing distribution than 1. 3 is a similar case, but I feel 5 is stronger. After that, 2, 4, and 6 just feel like add-ons and could never possibly support their own game. Which is probably intended, given the choices made with the new Pokemon, so it's not necessarily bad as much as it is not as great variety for new Pokemon.

>>28184861
I think you just gave me an appreciation for it.

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>>28178919

>not liking garbador

He looks like a cool hulking behemoth. I do wish it's stats were a bit better. As good as it is in NU it's stats are kind of underwelming overall. 80/82/82 defenses are nothing to write home about and neither is 95 attack.

4 had worse design s

>>28187210
I'm renaming my nuzlocke Ducklett to Carl. Thx famalam

>>28184789
>/ VP/ hates OU

Lel

Lwhat kind of fanfiction

>>28180463
I got you famicom.
http://www.bogleech.com/pokemon/trash.html

>>28178919
Because people have bad taste.

>>28181520
Wait, really? That's where Samurott comes frome? Huh...

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>best gen 5 design and one of tbe best designs in the series was by a britbong
Gen 5 had. the golurk line, galvantula line, and the reuniclus line. I would say ifbthe gen was literally just that alone its already better then gen 4.

>>28178919
Gen V is my second favorite, right behind II

I can't fathom people liking unironically Gen IV or VI over V, it's just not possible for a living being to have such shit tastes

>>28189502

This is exactly what GenVfags do all the time they try to deflect negative attention toward either IV or VI.

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>>28183279
> Excadrill line looks awful since it has a blade running right out of its skull through its skin
>Likes Bisharp

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>>28190243
>can't tell the difference between skin and a helmet