Find a flaw [spoil] hard mode: not sneaky pebbles

>>28136865
>rock throw

>>28136865
>rock blast

>>28136865
>Rock Smash

>>28136865
Rock slide

>>28136865
Sand attack.

>>28136865
Power gem

>>28136865
Rock polish.

>>28136865
Its kind of fat. But aside from that its hard to hate this guys if you don't consider gamefreaks pandering.

>>28136865
Smack Down + Earthquake

>>28137164
>it's kind of fat
>implying that's flaw

>>28136865
Head smash.

>>28136865
Stone Edge

>>28137173
>grass knot
>heat crash
>low kick
>sky drop
>heavy slam
Fatty.

>>28136865
Diamond Storm

>>28136865
Sandstorm.

>>28136865
Rock Wrecker

>>28137068
>Fighting type

R A Z O R L E A F

>>28136865
Rock Tomb.

>>28136865
>rollout hit (One) times!

>>28136865
Ancient Power

>>28136865
Hands down the worst character in Sm4sh

>>28136865
Hidden Power Rock

Horn Drill

>>28137287
>rocks
>>28137341
That's Donkey.

>>28136865
>clefairy used metronome!
>it turned into cocoa puffs!

>>28136865
>the opponent send out his Gigalith!

>>28136865
Wide Guard

>>28137233
>all of those moves aren't very effective

>>28136865
Not a very interesting design.

Also I dunno, Hydro pump. We're out of rock type moves.

>>28137427
>Sky Drop

>>28137445
Shit I forgot flying doesn't resist itself. Nobody uses Sky Drop anyway.

Sheer Cold

>>28137484
Lmao faggot.
I'll use it against you anytime.

>>28137484
It's actually a decent Aerodactyl move for doubles.

>>28136865
>smack down + fissure

>>28137445
>Using Sky Drop on a Flying Type

>>28137233
Do not bully the chubby drago

>>28136865
>smack down + magnitude 1

>>28136865
>smack down + dig
>>28137531
>not using sky drop on fatties
Stay mad barafag

>>28136865
guadelaboopy

absolutely boring

>>28137445
>>28137484
>shitters forget flying types and levitators are immune to sky drop

>>28136865
>smack down + mud slap
>>28137540
You mean Arceus Rock. That or use smack down first.

>>28137566
boildoil shimfeety

>>28137566
Rock types too, right? Or does it just not work on really heavy pokemon?

>>28136865
>smack down + mud shot
>>28137566
Why not smack down? Gamu freakuu fix this shit.

>>28137613
floobity pute

>>28137605
Only the super heavy, flying, and levitators as of gen 6.

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>charizardfags itt

>>28136865
>rain dance

>>28137341
>>28137353

You're both wrong. Objectively, the worst character is Mii Swordfighter.

All if you shut the fuck up before I turn this car around.

>>28137691
>water sport

>>28137173
Well its not that bad. blastoise is fat and weird looking, venusaure is kind of ugly and slow. Charizard is just fat, I can see why its the more popular one.

>>28137685
>miis
>bad
Your character is shit and you know it.

shit fanbase
mediocre design that only got popular because MUH EBIC NOSTALGIA DWAGON

seriously if it was some random wild pokemon in gen 4 no one would give a single fuck about it

>>28137726
Charizard isn't a real dragon and can die from a stone throws away.
Its shit.

furtive stones

>dislike charizard
>charizard y revealed and I quite liked it
>planned on using it on my team in pokemon x
>suddenly mega charizard x is revealed and looks awful
>ruined my planned team

>>28137785
Hey hey hey
op said no subtle sediment
use mimic first

>>28137785
Are we doing this?
Camouflaged cairns.

>>28137755
Blast can die from plants or electricity. Venus can go down with some fire or ice. If a pokemon is shit because it has weaknesses then all of them are shit.
The only reason charizard is not a dragon is because it would have been overpowered in gen one, like gyrados.

That's it! ALL OF YOU ARE GETTING SPANKINGS!

>>28137800
Why do you think char x looks horrible? Just asking.

>Charizardfags blown the fuck out

How will they ever recover

>>28137865
Shut up cunt

>>28137816
But the rest aren't 4x weak to good entry hazards aren't they?
>>28137826
t. Charizard
Good fucking luck, I've already set up 6 layers of furtive stones.

>>28137865
>>Charizardfags blown the fuck out
Why? what made charizard horrible now?

>>28137871
Stop posting charizard.
Should have stayed a charmeleon with that Eviolite.

>>28137735
>Captain Falcon
>Bad

Okay, buddy. Go change the meta with your Miis.

>>28137800

X looks better

>5'07
>fat
>couldn't fly before yellow
>two megas which both look bad
>among the worst fanbase of all pokemon
>go-to favorite of genwunners
>generic design
>shoved in your face at every turn, do you love charizard yet?
>here charizard is a second starter in this game how about now?

>>28137919
>op said find a flaw
>a
>as in one
>37 different replies in an hour
Btfo

>>28137910
Blastoise is kind of weak in the attack department and its defence are sort of good. Wont really last long against a foe that can use something its weak against and can out speed it. Venusaur is too slow, will get outrun by anything and will die easily to any attack.
Charisard has its flaws but its not like the other two are better.

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>>28137958
>Captain Falcon
>good
We were discussing Sm4sh.

>>28137994
But Venusaur is now with 1 (ONE) mega and its poison type.

>>28137974
You could do that with any pokemon I dont really get how it gets Btfo because of that.

>>28138021
And? Use any big physic or fire attack and its going down. I'm sure mega gardevoir or fire bird could kill it in one shot or something. Since it gets beaten easily everyone should hate it now right? This is the way you guys operate right?

>>28138024
Bidoof has only one weakness and one immunity and has gotten banned because of Moody. Its also nfe.
Charizard gets btfo because of one type and doesn't have a good ability. Its fully evolved with two mega options, and hasn't been banned.
Bidoof>faggot dragon

>>28138103
If you go by that logic then
Bidoof>any non banned pokemon.

>>28138093
So have Trick Room and use Sludge Bomb. That isn't hard, its setup beyond "dragon dance and sweep".
gg ez

>>28138138
So it needs other pokemons to be good? At less char can be useful by itself. And if we are going for support I'm sure you can get a good team combo with charizard too.

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>>28138130
Well of fucking course bitch. Just what do you think Bidoof is?

I wonder if you guys know pokemon is suppose to be played for fun right?
If your going fully competitive then why bother with other pokemons when M kan, bird and other are apparently proven to be the only good team. I mean everyone is using the same combo now.

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>>28137997
>implying falcon isn't good in Sm4sh
>while implying miis are

>>28138187
A god.

>>28138175
Alright.
>anon sent out klefki
>the foe's klefki used fairy wind
>mega charizard x fainted!

>anon sent out golem
>golem used rock throw
>Charizard fainted!
>>28138238
Stop playing For Glory.

>>28137816
>If a pokemon is shit because it has weaknesses then all of them are shit.
Except Eelectross.

>>28137865
Same way they always have. Denial, cheeto-induced blind fury, and spamming it until they win once, then using that as prove it isn't shit.

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>>28138258
>he thinks anyone who says his oc mii is a shitty character is for glory scum

Turn items off and stop using custom equipment.

>>28138313
>Turn items off and stop using custom equipment.
>implying the implications
Stop playing For Glory and parroting the Reddit leaderboard rankings and find a real Mii main. You sound like the kind of guy who would refuse to believe that Simisear can 6-0.

>>28138258
Your acting like the person wont just switch is charizard out for something else. If we got by that then.
>anon sent out good physic pokemon
>the foe's physicpoke use physic or any other good physic move
>mega venusaur fainted!

>anon sent out fire type
>fire type used flamethrower
>venusaure fainted!

Your taking this way too seriously, I mean I dont really care about any of this but you seem to have some sort of passionate hate for charizard.

>>28138352
>I mean I don't really care about any of this
>keeps replying
I can switch out too anon.
>send out mega fug
>Go! Arealdragon!

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>>28136865
It'll be garbage in gen 7 if megas are removed.

>>28138351
>tires don exits

Believing that the smallest possibility exists that a character can win after a lot of setup and miscalculations on the opponent's part does not make a character good, anon.

Miis are shit. Simisear is shit. They can win if your play your cards right (which is damn near fucking impossible if you're going against someone with some measure of skill), but they have so many things stacked against them that it's impossible to say that they're good.

Comparing Miis to Falcon or other high tiers is like comparing Simisear to Landorus-T. Sorry if that makes you butthurt, but it's true.

>>28138424
>>keeps replying
I just felt like you guys were just being a little too irrationnel. But hey I had a good chat, Im going to leave you to your little group see ya.

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>>28138518
>lot of setup and miscalculations on the opponent's part
>one nasty plot and blaze is a lot of setup
>a team full of legends is a miscalculation
I am right, anon was wrong.

>>28138551
>can't highlight greentext correctly
>shitty spelling and punctuation
>horrible syntax
>backpedaling
Go. Your kind is welcome amongst the holy land of underage called Reddit.

>>28136865
All this arguing in the thread between the starters is dumb, since Charizard and Venusaur have near perfect synergy in doubles. Blastoise and Charizard work well together as well.
Chlorophyll Venusaur and Charizard-Y is the best.

>>28138507
Yeah, like how they removed all those other battle mechanics, like...

>>28138622
>The irony of this.

>>28138584
>what is a priority move

You're immune to logic, aren't you? Simisear pulled that off because the other guy didn't even have a priority user on his team (ergo, he was a shitty player).

>>28138675
....the special split.

>>28138764
That's like saying retroactive typing chages removed those pokemom from the game. It's not the same idea at all.

>This thread

Charizardfags literally on suicide watch. Good riddance.

>>28136865
Not fast enough

>>28136865
While I don't believe they're gonna remove megas and would be sorely disappointed if they did, the fact that it would absolutely neuter Charizard would make it worth it.

>87.5%

>>28137865
Roost

>>28138093
>Fire moves killing Mega Venusaur

kek
e
k

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>>28136865

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>this entire thread

>>28136865
>op wanted to start a charizard thread
>gets derailed instantly by rocks he didn't mention, smash fuckery, and general shitposting
The war against charizardfags will end soon.
Ash got what he deserved anyway, 3 flying types a team does not make.

>>28136865
Autistic fanbase