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Hi there! It's been a while since the last Sage Sunday.

Here's what we've been up to:
>Implementing. Dronia's up next, so things are being added to it as we go. The screenshot's some preliminary passability work on it.
>Lighthouse puzzle is being worked on. We've got new tiles for it.
>Train stations in Dronia and Andante both have tiles.
>Plot
>Trainers and encounter themes, and finishing up music.
>Dialogue for everywhere up to Dronia's done, and the rest is written but not confirmed
>Sprites are working on the Flowger, Craliber, and Cuppy lines, along with some progress on OW sprites

As a final bit of news, we've got a buggy as all hell trading script working. Expect nothing, but it's fun news.

Hope you all had a wonderful weekend.
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>>28127709
I'm impressed

I'm excited for next demo, however long it may take.
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>>28127769
what are the types for the starters?

Is fairy type implemented?

I haven't seen these threads in such a long time.
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>>28127961
grass/fire/water
no
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>>28127961
Final evos are Grass/Flying, Fire/Rock, and Water/Fighting
Still no Fairy type for some reason
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Wow, never thought I'd see a Sage thread again, it's been ages.
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>Tiles
>Tiles
We summoning tilefag?
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>>28127961
No fairy was a dumb decision that was taken before XY were released. You guys should really reconsider it. Especially since there are a few fairy-looking Pokemon in the dex.

It's lame to have a game that's already way outdated before it's even close to be complete.
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2.0 before Christmas, is it likely?
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>>28127709
Glad to see you're still working on it. I really loved the demo.
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>>28127709
What was the name of the 8ch board again? Is it still being used?
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>>28128434
The game is essentially open source when(if) it gets done, you can edit in Fairy type yourself.
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>>28128443
Link to demo? I never got to play it.
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>>28128508
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Demo
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>>28127709
Sage is love, sage is life.
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>>28127709

Wow, I am genuinely impressed. I usually find myself hating fangames, especially with fakemons, but I actually love this The art is great, and most of the concepts are quite good. The main characters are well designed, too.

Good work, OP.
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>>28128552
Jesus, this game doesn't fuck around even right out the gate.
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>Female Schoolkid's lewd legs
wew
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Oh hey, cool. Good to hear you're still hard at work. I'm assuming you still haven't got an estimate for 2.0?
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>>28130988
Never
>>28128434
Quite a few devs are butthurt about fairy type and megas. Sage is literally a "I'm going to make my own game with blackhack and hookers" to them.
>>28128440
Yes
>praise
We appreciate it!
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>>28131364
>Quite a few devs are butthurt about fairy type and megas.
not only that many haven't played for years and years.
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Which one is Dronia? 2nd gym?
Is Clash still around?
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>>28131364
>Quite a few devs are butthurt about fairy type and megas.
Never understood that.
I remember the same thing happening on the 5th grade playground when they introduced dark and steel.
Fairy balanced the unchecked (and more and more prevalent) dragon type...
It's the new dark.
Only difference is that dark was weak to super common super available types, while fairy is weak to poison and steel... Which rarely get moves outside of their type... Except for toxic.
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>>28132366
Also: that's why it feels like fairy is OP. We'll likely see a lot more poison and steel type moves that every rando can learn in SM.
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Give one genuine reason as to why you should include fairy types. It's not difficult to implement in an Essentialsgame, literally take 5 minutes in the PBS to write down weaknesses/resists etc.

It's not as if you don't have any mons that could be fairy.
>Cowatti
>Snogre line
>Orangutao line
>Dreamdery/Macabra
>Nobunata
>Solacari
>Nurshary
>Artifish line
>Viipii
>Sunduke line
>Xochi/Xotec (arguable)
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>>28128369
There usually pop up once a week anon
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>>28132501
Not a Sage dev or anything, but

>sage is based on generation 4, not 6
>fairy doesn't even balance the game properly
>none of the pokemon were designed with fairy in mind, regardless of what you think can be fairy. Doppole/Artifish aren't fairies.
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>>28132366
I'm still a little assmad about steel.

>>28132383
We already have that, it's more the fact steel and poison despite being good on fairy are still garbage offensively with steel being the better (and more available, iron head is common) option. Fairy is balanced by being comprised primarily of shitmons or things that would be shitmons if not for a retardedly good ability (or two, looking at you clefable)

>>28132501
>Cowatti
hardly a fairy
>Orangutao line
No
>Dreamdery/Macabra
Macabra maybe if dreamdery also got dark.
>Nobunata
No
>Solacari
No what the fuck
>Artifish line
How is this a fairy lmao
>Sunduke line
Again what the fuck
>Xochi/Xotec (arguable)
Not arguable at all, they're absolutely fae and especially Xochi
Otherwise correct. Also you missed paramoth being prime fairy material.

At this point we just can't be fucked rebalancing and want it done/don't really want to deal with said buttmad devs autism about the type.
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>>28132728
Steel is op. Resistance to almost everything is just dumb. Dark is what ghost should have been. Fairy is a joke and an attempt to balance the type that was meant to reward you for training such grind heavy mons in the first place. Why even bother with dragons now? If fairy was added, I'd seriously consider trying to pull a second exodus.
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>>28132285
dronia's the second gym
clash is around but pretty busy
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>>28127709
Just wait until Nintendo gives this finished game in the year 2028 a cease and desist
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>>28127709
How is this game? Light/Edgy? Easy/Challenging?

I went through Reborn and Rejuvenation, while story wasn't those ones strong points, I quite liked Pokemon in a darker setting and the increase in difficulty, which made me feel like I earned those victories.

Even so, the next fangames were disappointments. They either fell in quality or, in case of Pokemon Full Moon, a Twilight fanfic grade story of a Mary Sue.

So, I don't have many standards for a game. Just want to know how it is since people talk about it. May end up playing later (currently going through Insurgence because I need the Deltas to satiate my Alolan urges)
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>>28133040
>clash is around but pretty busy
Tell him I love him
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>>28134456
It's pretty light and comfy, at least from what I've played thus far. Can't say much to difficulty, though I'd say it'd be more average to easy, at least compared to some of the more hardcore fangames out there.
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Super cool to see another post. Love the no fairy and megas. Love all the characters. Everyone hates on your process but it's working.. Slow is better than ass. Keep up the awesome quality of work.

Any more info on Vivace City? I loved the underground in Colosseum, hope it has a similar vibe. I particularly like the layout of the blacked out concept map on the wiki... Anyway godspeed
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>>28134989
>more average to easy
Uh either something big happened or your info is wrong because sage is supposed to be harder than a platinum nuzlocke, no?
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>>28134456
>Light/Edgy?
As light as the main games

>Easy/Challenging
A fair bit harder than the main games
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>>28135482
I'm just going by what I played of the demo. That might not have been the best indication though, or I may be remembering wrong.
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>>28132501
Wow we toyed around with the idea that if we had Fairy what moms would get it but you somehow got almost none of them. Only the Pixies and Snogre line.
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Sage will never finish.
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>>28137488
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>>28137326
Viipii would make a good fairy
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>>28128482
Didn't think of that. I'll definitely do that.
Any other pokemon would make a good fairy type besides those three?
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>>28137729
Just saw this post >>28132501
I agree with Snogre and maybe Nurshary.

Xochi and Xotec are already double type, but I'd argue that Fairy would be a better fit than Psychic (also more interesting imo)
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>>28127709
I dont keep up to any of these threads or anything but I just saw the Op image and felt the need to comment.

Just from this snapshot you can see you're going for aesthetics rather than substance. There looks like a lot of empty space, thats pretty poor design especially in a pokemon game. Its going to become very tedious and boring to travel around if you put too much space between things. Its also the most common pitfall for rom hacks where they space things too far out.
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>Sunday
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> two years
> demo still doesn't get past the first gym
> meanwhile Pokemon Uranium is finished

Taking /vp/ out of this project was a huge mistake.
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>>28138044
Uranium was 9 years development time.
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>>28138061
Pokemon Sage is going on 5 years. It took them three just to push out the first gym. Now they've shot themselves in the foot and have no real proof they're even making progress.
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>>28138156
Well, seeing as how a dev team had to come together from a mass of anonymous assholes and then create some sort of coherent group to work on it, I think it's understandable that they aren't blasting through the work.
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>>28137647
That goes against the idea that Viipii is supposed to be a regular anon, hense Normal type.
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>>28127709
Psi goat is so close i can taste it.
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>>28139920
A regular anon being a fairy kinda works even better imo
coz you know, we're all faggots

I wouldn't mind if Viipii was the only fairy type in the game
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>>28135440
>Love the no fairy and megas

Change is bad
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Someone post the dex
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>>28138156
What the fuck would having it remain on /vp/ solve? Do you really think that having sage remain here during waves of shitposting really make it get done faster? Really?
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>>28132510
more like a thread complaining about how the sage team hasn't posted in a couple weeks pops up once a week.
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>>28141303
True true
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>>28138156
>sage is going on 5 years
going on 4 in october.
>>28137964
here's the whole city. dronia's the largest or second largest city (depends how ossia ends up)
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>>28140797
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>>28131364
>Quite a few devs are butthurt about fairy type and megas.
There's quite a bit of hate for megas, yeah, but I haven't seen any negativity about fairies on the skypeluminatti.
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>>28142851
How much is coded and how much has dialogue been done for it? What are the encounters for fishing off the pier? What are the item give aways? Hobodojo when?

What's the status of Andante? What's the lighthouse puzzle about? What's the reward for it?

Can a team of 20 monkeys write a better plot or has the day been saved?
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>>28132366
>Fairy balanced the unchecked (and more and more prevalent) dragon type...
Not really. Dragons were overpowered because most of them had great stats and incredible movepools.
On the flipside, most fairies are weak as shit.
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>>28132653
>sage is based on generation 4, not 6
Gen 5, actually.

>>28134456
Light and challenging. There won't be any gym leaders committing suicide in this game.
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>>28135440
>Any more info on Vivace City?
Underground Vegas. A neon lit cave.
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>>28142931
you're a cute little bundle of questions aren't you
>how much is coded
it's next on the implementation bloc
>how much dialogue
most
>fish encounters
can't fish off the pier
>item giveaways
TM Thief and a couple others. i'll wiki them in a bit.
>Andante status
mapped for a while. nothing real special outside of the OP. gym's been slow.
>lighthouse puzzle
old dude's about to shut down the lighthouse and you turn it back on. people show up and he's happy everyone cares ;_;
you get a good rod.
>can monkeys write
we've been bashing our fingers against the keys for many moons
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>>28132501
Why does everyone assume Nurshary to be a candidate for fairy type?

There is nothing that screams fairy about Nurshary and every time someone throws a list of potential fairy type pokemon, people pick Nurshary.

Are people really that stupid?
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>>28131607
Not true in the slightest.

>>28131364
Found the newfag.

>>28134393
The only pokemon fangame to ever be CnD'd were Evoas and Fusion Generations. Also, who gives a shit if it's CnD'd post release?

>>28135440
Vivace is next demo so very little focus on it right this moment. Discussion has semi revived for it though.

>>28143001
It's pink, the primary prerequisite for fairy type.
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>>28142931
You really need to make yourself less obvious, Dunky.
You're not asking the hard hitting questions like you think you are, you're just coming off like a pathetic ex-boyfriend who can't let go of the one thing that gave them purpose in life.
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>>28143000
Awwwwwww thanks cutie.

Why can't you fish off the pier? Seems silly considering there's a surfable route directly north of Dronia. Good place for some early access to some ocean mons, a la Vermillion City.

>gym's been slow
Hasn't the gym been on hold for like a year now? Do we have to throw money at the guy to map it? If some guy could throw money for some banners, surely someone could donate money to force the gym done, no?

>dat puzzle
That's adorable. Have more of that shit.
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I haven't been really following Sage, mainly waiting for a full release. I'm just glad there seems to be legit progress, since it looks great.

That said, how far does the Demo go?
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>>28142900
Thanks buddy!
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>>28143061
Welp, there goes the thread.
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>>28143065
i'm apparently dumb. gym's been done lol
>>28143072
1.5.1 goes to gym 1, 2.0 will go to gym 3.
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>>28143114
>gyms been done

BRUH, POST THAT SHIT
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>>28143065
>Hasn't the gym been on hold for like a year now? Do we have to throw money at the guy to map it? If some guy could throw money for some banners, surely someone could donate money to force the gym done, no?
Don't mind David. He's fucking retarded. It's been finished for months.
Every single god damn time its brought up someone says it's not done for some god damn retarded reason when its been finished for months now.
Yes I'm mad.
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>>28132501
Honestly Koblin deserves fairy more than anything you listed
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>>28143135
Can you post it then please?
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>>28143164
Leda is compiling the map images. Give him a few minutes.
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>>28143227
>a few minutes
It's a map, not rocket science. But good to know that it's finished.
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>>28143246
the map image tool is slow and its split into 10 separate maps. fuck off dunky and be patient.
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>>28143264
>10 separate maps
Wait what?
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>>28143246
Nobody stimulates my artistry quite like you. You are my muse, my flame. But also my arch nemesis.
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>>28143278
vertical gym bb
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>>28143287
>my arch nemesis
Do you really hate me that much or is it because I'm literally bigger than any of your other nemeses?

>>28143291
Yeah, but 10 separate maps of verticalness? Holy fuck what have you guys cooked up? This sounds cool as fuck
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2.0 is coming out at the end of October.
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>>28143304
it's not all vertical; some are side rooms. i think it's about five levels of height.
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>>28143334
Ok, side rooms sounds cool.
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see david, this is why I stopped posting sage sundays

you reap what you sow
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>>28143350
This one has been good, what are you talking about bear?
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>>28143389
>Dragons Definitely Don't Need a Nerf
ahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
Can it have a forward written by Arthur's brother?
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>>28143410
arthur doesn't have a brother
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>mfw
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>>28143431
But muh bro
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>>28143470
this is so accurate it hurts
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>>28143470
mfw
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>>28143470
Why are the nipples so detailed?
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>>28143599
are yours not? i'd get yourself checked.
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Where's the map eggman?
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These threads are alright until the devs just come to shitpost instead of answer questions. No wonder they left, harder to jerk off each other in public 24/7.
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>>28143660
Well, thread was alright until >>28143061
then it became a shitpostfest.
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>>28143660
blame smokey. if you have any more questions i've been answering most of them.
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>>28143470
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>>28143645
Bump for map
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>>28143769
"This takes a while, but I'm too autisic to stop and do it with an app."
-leda
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>>28143783
Can't blame him for honesty.

What's the gym teams looking like? Have you guys done any more testing for them?
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>>28143803
dronia's yet to be implemented. gym teams are almost done™. we toyed with foster a bit (gave cubzero thunder fang at long last).
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>>28143829
How'd tfang cubzero do?
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>>28143660
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>>28143891
better than double team.
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>>28143984
Nice
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>>28143970
Made me chuckle
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So I was going back in the archives and the name Hunter popped up a few times. Is that another salty dev like Dunky that got kicked out/left/banned?
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>>28143970
>dunky tries to make a joke
almost there bud
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>>28144079
nope
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we uh getting that map or no
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>>28142964>>28135588

How challenging we talking about bros?
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Sage is dead.
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>>28144201
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Magnitogre
This is the ace of the second gym leader
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>>28144195
what fucking map do you want you cuntbiscuit
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>>28144223
all of them right noe
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>>28144223
Andante Gym
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>>28144223
wow, rude
andante gym
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>>28144232
>>28144237
it's not ready fuck off
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>>28144252
Well when will it be ready you barbarian
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while leda continues being slow i'll post some more nice stuff
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/capx/images/d/d2/Abandoned_Observatory_bgm.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20160813215242
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>>28144279
when we fucking get it done
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>>28144300
>rocano
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
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>>28144304
Without deadlines, how can you ever expect anything substantial to get done?
Who's managing this gorgeous mess?
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>>28144364
david
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These are the ones I'm looking forward to using when you game finally gets finished. Two dozen "good" pokemon lines is better than most of the mainline pokemon games, honestly.
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>>28144392
>cahokisect
>good
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>>28144371
BWAVO DABID
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>>28144392
Good type variety and a decent number of early game pokemon. You've got yourself a play through team right there.
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>>28144300
That's really nice.

Hey David, who would you say is the Peyton Manning of Pokemon Sage?
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>>28144484
that was the implication, yes!
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>>28144392
It's almost more than last gen's entire dex!
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>>28137729
>Any other pokemon would make a good fairy type besides those three?

Nurshary, Chihaha, and Howlequin.
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>>28144563
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>>28144556
QB
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>>28144591
Why do they call him QB?
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>>28144577
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>>28144558
>cahokisect
>good
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>>28144304
haha, you guys suck. Your moderation of the project, and moving it off of /vp/ was your downfall. You can't even make a 2nd gym? Give me a break. Uranium is showing you guys up.
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>>28144647
>moving it off of /vp/ was your downfall.
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>>28144610
>>28144647
>>28144653
Shitposters fuck off
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>>28144669
>says the avatarfag
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>>28144484
You think differently?
I think it's a very nice design.
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>>28144669
what's this shitty looking game? Autismo the dual wielder in space?
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>>28144647
i uploaded it to the wiki for you

http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Dronia_Gym
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>>28144744
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>>28144744
Edgy bounty hunter from KotOR.
He died like a bitch.
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>>28142900
god damn this dex is beautiful
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>>28144828
coo
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>>28144828
Is it wrong if my dick is hard looking at this?
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>>28144987
Yes, you should have instantly cum.
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>>28145087
But what if I only cum to Xochiquetzal?
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>>28145125
you need a new brain and/or dick.
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>>28144828
SEE! SEE!
Its fucking massive. It took a while for a reason.
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>>28145125
but pokemon are for hugs only
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>>28145166
>5 floors
>massive
I mean, it's really nice and it's a sick gym, but 5 floors is like the manlet of gyms.
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>>28145197
Anon. You're full of shit. Show me one gym even close to that things size.
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>>28145245
Whatever gym dunky goes to, for starters. He's got to fit in there right?
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>>28145257
Ya got me.
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>>28144828
>>28145166
Well, most of that seems to be inaccessible underwater space, while the actual portions you'll be walking in are mostly small rooms and halls.

Don't get me wrong though, it looks sweet as hell.
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>>28145277
Thanks for posting that Bilbo.

Gym looks tight as whatever tight anus designs the plot.
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>>28142900
Hoppanero is the only believable mon. Everything else looks like OCfanshit. Kidling is close though.
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Honest question. Why is development of this so slow? Same for Uranium, in fact, in general how long do these pokemon fan projects usually take?

I've been kicking around the idea of making a pokemon fan game, but I dunno if I'd want to spend that much time on it, especially if I just do it alone.
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>>28145442
it's generally "trying to improve quality" that makes things take so long. that and fiddling with RPG maker in general.
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>>28145442
There's a lot of facets to it, which in themselves aren't that time-restrictive. You've got asset creation, QC, and implementation on top of writing and plotting.
The thing that makes these things take a while for quality™ is that nobody is a professional Pokemon fangame creator. Even though we've got about 20 people actively on board, we're all adults who only get busier with each passing day. Fangames are a hobby, and work is often relegated to a couple hours in the evening, provided your energy level permits it.
Real games take a couple years with a team of people working the 9-5 to hash it out. When your staff is a bunch of overgrown nerds with increasingly serious jobs and lives, it's inevitable that things don't chug along at a brisk pace.

As long as we're having fun, it doesn't matter a whole lot how long it takes. A love letter is much better when you spend a whole evening poring over it, as opposed to scrawling it down in the 3 minutes before 5th Period Biology.
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>>28145442
We're amateurs with zero experience and game development is a lot harder than it looks like on the surface.
Plus for sage, we had 2 years stuck on this pit stain of a board, and despite what some butthurt anons might lead you to believe, it is not a good environment for making a game. Especially not one of the worst boards on this site.
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>>28145442
There's no responsibility or incentive to get it out quickly other than a lack of patience. With gamefreak they have their bottom line to consider, time is money. With fan projects time is not money, it's just time.
Also a consideration is this is a side thing for people. Because the people that are perpetually available tend not the have skills.
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>>28145713
>and so you need to accept the alternative of a tripfag circlejerk offsite
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>>28145788
basically, yes.
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>>28145788
What would having it on /vp/ offer it? It's still the same people working on it and posting inthread. Not much changes for the better. 99% of content creators went with the move offsite. Who is going to actually work on the game on /vp/ that isnt already?
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>>28145889
The fact the exodus worked proves that nobody left behind actually did anything.
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/vp/ should make its own pokemon fan-game that purely stays on /vp/.
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>>28145922
ask clover
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>>28145922
Because that worked for Clover.
/vp/ is not a good work environment, let alone board.
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>>28145922
there have been two fangames that have left the board because of stagnation and shitposting, and one fangame left dead in the water. Do you understand what a common denominator is?
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>>28145961
>>28145969
>Cancer cesspool
No.
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We had ourselves a hearty hue after clover left. They gave us shit for leaving, and now they're gone too.
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>>28146077
Camerupt just turned 18 too
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>>28144647
>anon proves his worth by not being able to count to 3
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>>28146073
sounds like /vp/.
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>>28146051
>and one fangame left dead in the water
>one
I realise you're a bit new but the number is a tad higher than just aus
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>>28146132
sorry I don't count shitpostathons that last less than a month as /vp/ fangames

go try to resurrect that rainbow power ranger digimon whatever thing it was and see how that goes.
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>>28144653
You forgot Delibird, Solrock, Misdreavus, Hitmonchan, Ludicolo, Carnivine, Zubat, Lileep, and Nincada you retarded fucking nigger
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>>28142900
>tfw some of your suggestions and design choices made it to the final stages.
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>>28144300
Aw, you guys as still using my overworld sprites
I know they have a good chance of being replaced at some point but still
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just downloaded the demo

>>>>>>>intro

jesus christ fuckers drop making that game and get started making a pixelart movie
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>>28149637
Thanks
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