Minimum requirements for you to come away from Sun/Moon satisfied?

lucha litten being fake

>>28124618
50+ hours of actual game.

- At least 100 new Pokemon with Alolan forms only counting as half a new Pokemon
- More things to do postgame than X and Y

>>28124631
So one bad Pokemon design means you can't possibly be happy with the new games?

>>28124661
To be fair more postgame than X&Y could be almost nothing.

>>28124618
I have fun playing them, thats all want/need.

Battle Frontier.

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As much Guzma as possible.

Megas

That is the only thing left that I want.

>>28124618
For it to be a Pokemon game

>>28124618
At least 100 new Pokemon or more, and for the story/lore of the box mascots to be executed better than XY. Everything else looks fucking great anyways

>>28124618

Wimpod evolves into an absolute beast of a Pokemon, remaining Bug/Water.

Alola Forms / Megas / SOMETHING for Solrock and Lunatone.

>>28124618
An adequate post-game.

>>28124679
That's fun, now let me try phrasing my own opinion to sound like it's obviously the correct one:

Yes an absolutely horrendous fire starter (my favorite type) and no option to fix it in any way is enough to make me feel unsatisfied with the game

>>28124631
You're a bitch

>>28124618
Just a good post game and at least 100 new Pokemon would satisfy me

>Plenty of trainer customization
>At least one full team of new Pokemon I really want to use
>Comfy as hell
>Good postgame

>>28124618
Big postgame and lots to explore. That's all. Also, decent 3D this time around wouldn't hurt, it looks a ton better than X and Y already.

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>>28124704
He's a cool guy

Customization, mostly for the Trainer but adding accessories for Pokemon would be nice too.

>>28124761
This, For one, expand the elite 4 rematch system ORAS had.

>>28124688
this.

>>28124618
- No genwun pandering
- Decent story
- Mechanics from old games like Dexnav, Contests, Super Training, PSS, etc
- Over 40 hours of gameplay
- Trainer rematches
- Good variety of Pokemon
- New megas
- Non Gen 1 Alolan forms
- Over 100 new pokemon
- Over 60 Alolan Forms
- Over 30 new megas
- A post game battle frontier that has good facilities and rental Pokemon.
- Great music
- Removal or option to change natures
- Hyper training for non lvl 100 pokemon
- Actual difficulty
- Fixing shitty types and nerfing OP types
- Fixing old pokemon by giving them new stats

I'm 99% sure i'm going to be disappointed.

90 new pokemon minimum excluding alola/mega forms

Endgame beyond a battle tower, even a delta episode like thing would work.

THE Battle Frontier.

I will seriously lose my shit if it's just a tease.

>>28124688
you do realize that gen III is only good because of that, right?
remove this and gen 3 is boring af

>>28124956
>I'm 99% sure i'm going to be disappointed.

That's because you've mixed up 'minimum standard for decency' with 'requirements for it to be the perfect Pokemon game'.

>>28124618

3ds grows lips and fellates me

Be better than X and Y

Pretty easy.

>>28124618
All I want is for them to not fuck up Team Skull. No big whiny motive rants, no nonsensical goal, just a bunch of stupid idiots being dicks. At worst I'm expecting some sort of "instead of trying again when you failed, you gave up, and that's what you did wrong" message. I'd love for it to be more of a "You were acting like a jerk, but I guess everybody needs some place to belong" message instead.

>>28124618
a decent amount of content.
If its piss easy, oh well, I can fix that with a hack.
If there's no battle frontier, oh well, its standard for first generational entries to only really have a battle tower clone.
What I need is a post-game area, like the Fight Area, or the second half of Unova. both of which existed in DP and BW with PT and B2W2 simply expanding on it.

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>>28124618
blue shows up

All I want is for the game to be somewhat challenging. I know that's not going to happen so I'll have to nuzlocke it or something to make it more difficult. If it could be as hard as the difficulty hacks though it would be great. Other than that, just make a long game. Which they're going to do anyway.

> +120 new pokemons
> +30 Alola forms
> Arrowl, Beltigre and Entermaid turn out to be fake
> Multi starters evolutions
> Well written Story

>>28124618
existing

>At the very least, 80 new mons would be nice
>I don't care about the games' difficulty, but I'd like to see trainers with full teams by the end of the game, 4 mons at the very least.
>New moves, besides the Z ones.

That's about it really. I have low standards, so those 3 things will make me happy to buy the game.

Decent post game
Team Skull being as good/fun as they seem in the trailers
No Megas.

I'd consider 2/3 of those a win.

>>28124660
literally never happened in any pokemon game

>>28125100
They said absolute minimum
With those requirements it sounds like you only liked BW, if that.

>>28125115
Masuda confirmed Megas are in

>>28124618
New bug type combinations, bug and grass types that are actually competitive.

>>28124836
>Emboar
>Delphox
>Still liking fire starters
what are you doing with your life
>hating Luchalitten
oh right

from what i've seen, i'm already pretty satisfied, i just hope the game isn't too easy

>90 new Pokemon at least
>a better meta
>a fun game

>>28125149
People keep saying that but no one has actually produced a source, just "it was in sunday, trust me"

>>28125110
The everyone still only having 3 or less Pokémon near endgame thing really bothers me.

>Decent exploration, bunch of little nooks and crannies to see and go back to later in the game

>Decent story, doesn't need to be a masterpiece or epic but just give me something nice to go on

>Let me play the fucking game instead of interrupting me with some cutscene or scripted event every route

>Decent level curve

>My boy Guzma and team skull being fun

>Postgame that's not just battle tower/mason

>>28125169
>Better meta
>Tapu Koko
Pick one.

>>28124836
Inject a starter from a past generation.

I want the Battle Frontier teased in ORAS to be a thing we can visit.
I want a difficulty option that isn't locked from the beginning.
I want a good soundtrack.
Keeping Amie, which they probably will.
New Megas would be nice, but aren't entirely necessary.
Something like Delta Episode except without the constant back and forth between 2 places and without a shitty character like Zinnia.
Team Skull to be fun and have down to Earth goals.
A Pyukumuku evolution.
While I don't pay much attention to competitive, I still think they need to have a better look at typing, abilities and movepools.

>>28125025

So? What does that have to do with it being in SM?

At least...
90 totally new Pokemon (which I think we'll easily meet)
30 total Alolan forms of previous Pokemon
10 new Megas

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Events like these again instead of them being given away on Mystery Gift

>>28125149
Gonna need a source on that one, bud

Alolan Persian having the stats and new moves to back it up competitively.

Even so I'll probably still be happy.

>Less easy then XY or being able to choose difficulty from the start
>more postgame
>Alola foms of pokemon outside gen 1

Apart from that this gen is already saved for me from what we have seen so far

I want to pet dewott and buizel in amie

>>28125149
That's exactly what people are talking about. No one has the footage anywhere.

>>28125234
More mega's would also be neat I guess, but it's not really a requirement for me

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>>28124956
>wanting contests back
>wanting mega evolutions to come back

>>28125193
>Tapu Koko
>bad
How? It's the auto Electric Terrain setter I've always wanted. It has more synergy with stuff you wouldn't use on CHALK than otherwise, especially since Thundurus-I can't even make use of Electric Surge since it's immune to ground.

Not to mention, though I know one counter doesn't mean it's totally balanced I'm honestly just bringing this up in case Grass Knot Topkek is a thing we have a good offensive Poison/Ground who can resist its STABs.

I can get why you'd be worried since it's a high BST juggernaut that can launch T-bolts with boosts and has a Super Fang clone, but there's still ways around it.

>>28124722
This is literally the only real requirement for anyone on /vp/, despite how much they will bitch and try to imply the contrary.

>>28124618
>Alolan Alakazam
>Alolan Alakazam stays special and uses aura
>main game is decently well written and long
>diversity of wild Pokémon (for replay value)

A good long story, fair progression, and enough new Pokemon that I like (including Alola variants).

I like a lot of the Pokemon that have already been revealed, so that should not be too much of an issue, but I hope that everything else is decent.

>>28124618
An actual postgame

A Battle Frontier like DPPt/Emerald. Doesn't even need to be a frontier honestly. I just don't want to see the shitty ass Battle Maison again.

No Megas

>>28125314
I never bought X/Y because of how few pokemon it had.

I was sadly gifted OR.

Bought both Black/White 2 though.

I simply won't but this if it has under 100 new pokemon

>>28125324
Well, looks like only 1/3 of your requirements will be fulfilled

>>28125314
Wrong I hated X and Y and ORAS. I never even finished ORAS because it was so easy. Also I have no interest in non-mainline Pokemon games.

>>28125416
>Hates Pokemon
>Posts on /vp/ - Pokemon

>>28125446
He never said he hated Pokemon. He said he hated the last two games.

>>28124618
I require the Pokémon to look like Pokémon and not Digimon.


So, too late

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>>28125500

I just don't want as much hand-holding, gift pokemon. A decent story would be nice as well.

>>28125446
I don't hate Pokemon, I just didn't like the last two games. But they had the potential to be good if just they were more difficult. Star Sapphire is great.

Pokemon World Tournament

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>>28125416
This is pretty much what I am talking about. You will talk about how much you hated the games but you still give GF your shekels anyway. If you truly didn't like XY and ORAS, take a stand and don't buy SM, because it's going to have exactly the same issues.

>>28125500
What are you talking about?
The new Pokemon are even more simple than the first generation. Digimon is known for their very complex designs.

>>28124618
+90 new pokemon (would ask for +100 but I don't want to be disappointed)
not as easy as gen 6
post game locations
decent postgame/content
underwater routes
decent exploration
team skull not being as bad as team flare

>>28125572
Not him but people are already doing that.

>>28124618
frankly, the minimun requirement is simply me enjoying it, which isn't that hard
what I want is a game with a decent story, well-developed characters, and a region with memorable locations
also a good soundtrack

>>28125572
I'm just gonna download it regardless. And then try to make my own rules to make the game harder.

>>28125576
He's probably referring to Solgaleo and Lunala, which wouldn't look out of place in Digimon
this isn't really a good argument though because that also applies to the weather trio and the creation trio as well as many more well-liked pokemon

>>28124618
>At least 100 pokemon
>Better than XY
>Better than ORAS
>Trials actually being a good replacement for gyms
>Actual postgame outside legendaries

I know not to expect anything stupid like challenge mode, battle frontier or the game being harder than ORAS.

>>28124618
One of these would be fine.
>Over 100 pokemon
>Post-story with more Islands, maybe another region if we're lucky.
>Battle Frontier or PWT, either one would be fine.
>HMs made unnecessary, although I don't see this as much of a problem anymore.
>Good music and locations
>Great characters + Evil team (Evil team looks good enough as it is)
>Difficulty
>Gym Leader/Trainer rematches
>Johto/Unova tier comfy
>Good story
I know, i'm already setting myself up for disappointment.

>>28124618
More than 100 new mons, the collecting is what I really enjoy

>>28124618
>fun new Pokemon and a lot of them
>cool new type combos
>neat concepts
>not piss easy

>>28124618
So long as they hold to the same quality standard I will have little to gripe about. That said, if they want to impress me they need:
-Challenge Mode from the start
-Some kind of post-game akin to PWT or Battle Frontier
-Poison attacks and Poison-type attackers that don't fucking suck.
-Their own goddamn PvP tiers.
-New megas that improve shitmons instead of overpowering good ones.
-Alola forms other than gen 1 pokes.

I doubt the last three would happen but there's always hope.

>>28124631
Oh quit being such a little faggot. I ran fire starters all the way until Gen 5. When Gen 6 rolled around, instead of bitching about Delphox I decided to try something new and ran with Greninja and whadaya know HE WAS AWESOME. So cool your fucking autism and try something else for once instead of bitching about things outside your control.

>>28124618
An Elite 4.

I know there's a lot of rumors about "making your own league" but I just want there to be a simple end goal like every other game. I don't care if they end up taking away the gyms at this point, just let their be some E4 equivalent.

>>28124618
>customization
>at least 100 new mons
>viable cat mon
All I want.

>>28124618
good new pokémon designs. I'm pretty satisfied already tbqh.

Some basic premise of difficulty would be nice. Doesn't need to be hard, but if I can play through it just tapping A over and over and never even needing to think, that'd suck. And is probably my biggest fear for it.

>>28125524
I'd love it if we had to work hard for everything. Like... really make it all matter, ya know?

>Game opens with you in bed
>Mom tells you to wake up or you'll be late
>You get out of bed and hurry downstairs
>Mom tells you that you need to get ready you can't go out like that
>Have to go upstairs to switch out of pajamas, then go back down
>Mom sends you back up to comb your hair, you go back down again
>Mom sends you back to brush your teeth and you finally go back down
>Have to go get your running shoes from your closet
>Have to go back up to get your stash of savings for your long trip
>Have to go to the kitchen for water and snacks
>Finally leave
>First route you find a wounded trainer who speaks of strong wild Pokemon
>Have to return to town to get some medical supplies at the PokeMart
>Go back to trainer to give supplies
>Out of money now
>Have to go back home to do some small jobs around town
>Have to mow lawns
>Have to distribute news papers
>Finally get your savings back
>Go to first route
>Find wounded Pokemon
>Have to take it to the nearest Pokecenter
>Told it belongs to someone in town
>Go to owner's home but they aren't there
>Have to go find them in nearby cave
>As you explore cave you're attacked by wild Pokemon much too strong for this Pokemon that you're trying to return to owner
>Pokemon is KO'd
>Have to return to Pokecenter to heal Pokemon again
>As you leave the center the villain team shows up
>Villain team steals the Pokemon from you
>You have to go for help but nobody can do anything
>You go to nearby lab to talk to professor
>Professor says you cant have a Pokemon because you couldnt even protect that one
>You have to prove yourself to the Professor
>Go do several errands for the Professor
>Finally get back to see the Professor
>Professor lets you choose the starter you want
>Reveals you cant use it and instead Professor gives you region's common rodent
>You have to battle your chosen starter with the rodent

(cont...)

>>28124618
You know how Kanto starts out really linear, but as you progress, you start being able to go wherever you want, and it feels liberating? And that point in Johto when you clear the Sudowoodo, and suddenly the entire region starts feeling connected?

And you know how Kalos started out linear, and stayed that way for the entire game? And every time you got to a new town, you're blocked by some stupid excuse, like a bunch of tourists standing in the way, and can't progress until you've watched some cutscene about Team Flare? And how the game holds your hand every step of the way and explicitly tells you where you're supposed to go next?

If S/M can give me the sense of freedom that I felt when playing earlier gens, I'll forgive the shitty new pokémon designs.

>>28127671
>Rodent is Level 1
>Starter is Level 5
>You get annihilated
>Professor scalds you for being a bad trainer
>Says you can never have a Pokemon
>Takes back rodent
>You become discouraged
>Go to Pokemart and try to buy Pokeballs
>You'll catch your own without help
>Realize villain team stole your money
>You become desperate
>Steal Pokeballs from PokeMart
>Promise as you leave you'll pay them back
>Run quickly towards nearby cave
>Hide out for real life hour
>Search finally dies down
>You encounter a Pokemon in the cave
>Throw your Pokeballs at it without battling
>All Pokeballs fail
>You become depressed
>You wonder deep into the cave ready to give up
>You wonder into the deepest depths of the cave
>You find a big stone slab to lay on and cry
>You hear a strange sound
>You get up to see what it is
>Massive high level Pokemon attacks you
>You must run
>You run even deeper into the cave
>Avoid obstacles on your way
>You trip and fall
>Pokemon almost has you
>Suddenly a man emerges from the darkness
>Tells the Pokemon to back off
>Sends out a high level Pokemon to fight it off
>The two Pokemon battle intensely
>Strange trainer's Pokemon seems to scare it off
>Just as everything calms down it bursts from the darkness again
>Lunges at you

(Cont...)

>>28127703
>Trainer dives in front of you to protect you
>Trainer is severely wounded in the process
>Trainer's Pokemon becomes furious and KO's wild Pokemon
>You go to the wounded trainer
>Trainer is weak and very hurt
>You ask if there's anything you can do
>Trainer says he needs medical supplies
>You give trainer a bottled water and a snack
>Trainer gives you his Pokemon to protect yourself
>You must find your way out of the maze like dark cave
>Pokemon is strong and obeys because its master told it to
>If Pokemon KO's you have to restart the game
>You finally find your way out of the cave
>Get the medical supplies needed to help trainer
>Return to the cave
>You stubble through cave looking for trainer
>No sign of the trainer anywhere
>As you search you run into villain team
>You battle them and win this time
>Team runs off, one of the grunts mentioning "We already got him let's go"
>Team has taken the injured trainer somewhere
>You return to town and the Professor is there to meet you
>Says he heard what you did and had a change of heart
>Professor challenges you to a battle with your starter again
>You win and the Professor concedes defeat
>Professor gives you the starter you chose
>Professor asks that you leave the trainer's Pokemon there
>You try to refuse but cant since it isnt your Pokemon
>You leave with your new Pokemon
>Realize your money is gone because of medical supplies
>Have to do small jobs and favors around this town now
>Finally get your money back
>Become hungry and decide to take a snack break
>Finish snack and water and have now run out
>Have to buy more
>Spend your money on snacks and water
>Have to go back to first town to do more jobs
>Discover everyone is gone

(Cont...)

>>28127723
>Everything is completely silent but nothing is damaged
>See a grunt of villain team standing near your house
>They see you and smile
>Villain presses a button on wrist and disappears in a beam of light
>You're startled and not sure what just happened
>You go into your house to look for your mother
>Nobody is there but nothing is out of place otherwise
>You take some money from your mom's purse but feel bad for it
>Have to go upstairs to get paper and pencil
>Write IOU note and leave it in mom's purse
>Realize mom and everyone else is gone
>Realize how trivial this all is
>Villain team has taken everyone you knew
>Rush out the door and head to second town to tell Professor
>The entire town has disappeared
>Only a giant open field is where town once was
>You become scared by all of this
>You skiddishly head onward through the next route
>Finally find another town and tell people what happened
>They seem to think you're making it up at first
>You mention previous town vanishing
>They stare at you
>"There was never a town there."
>You stare at them before proclaiming that's impossible
>They insist you're making it all up
>You show them supplies with previous town Mart's logo on them
>They stare in shock at mysterious logo they've never seen
>"Surely you're from another region..."
>You swear you're from nearby
>They insist you're mistaken but tell you someone else you should talk to
>You go to a house secluded a short distance away from town
>House is a mess
>You knock on the door
>You hear shuffling inside
>A strange old man comes to the door
>"Who're you!? Wut'cha want?!"
>You answer him nervously
>His eyes widen and he jerks you inside
>"You see'd 'em too, ya?"
>You start to become uncomfortable but nod
>"I see'd 'em. See'd 'em a lot. Folk says me wacky."
>"But you see'd 'em. See'd 'em jus' now. Ya ain't wacky."
>You start to become more uncomfortable

(Cont...)

>>28127744
>You get up to leave
>"NAH NAH! Can't be goin'. Gotta stay gotta chat! You see'd 'em!"
>"You need'n stay theys be peepin' for ya!"
>You become nervous and ask what he means
>"They knows ya see'd 'em. They be peepin' for ya! Come to ya!"
>You tell him everything, every detail
>"Yous need'n take me down that would'b town. Town where's ain't no town!"
>You hesitantly agree and guide him to where the town was
>When you arrive he pulls out an extensive kit full of strange gadgets
>He begins probing and analyzing around the field
>He looks very interested in what he's finding but you don't see anything
>He comes back to you with a puzzled look on his face
>"We's need'na go up the routes. They's gone but weren't gone."
>"We's need'n ta leave this wuld'b town. Fin' us a nex' while it still'b!"
>You agree to what he's saying and head further through the region
>He tells you that you need to act normal and collect badges as you travel
>He tells you that you can't draw attention to yourself
>You capture more Pokemon along the way and win your first gym badge
>Old man asks to see the badge so you let him
>He analyzes it closely, in great detail
>"S'fine I says. Polish'm up a good'n!"
>He hands you back the badge and you put it away
>The two of you travel to the next town
>You see the villain team at the PokeCenter harassing the staff
>You begin to step in but the old man stops you
>The villain team stares at you intensely for a moment before looking away
>Villain team decides to pack up and take off at this point
>A higher ranking member of the team gives you one more look before they leave
>"Natta, idn' good's it ain't. They's might'n be on t'ya!"

(Cont...)

>>28127790
>You continue your journey to the next town and the next gym
>There's a road blockage on the way forcing you to take a detour through a forest
>You head through the forest and finally reach the next town
>"Rmmm... somes'thin 'bout this fishy..."
>You look at the old man for a moment before heading to the gym
>You take on the next gym leader and defeat them
>Gym leader was surprisingly easy to defeat
>Old man asks to see your new badge
>He analyzes it closely
>Pulls out strange gadget to examine it in more detail
>"..."
>"....."
>"...!"
>The old man hands the badge back to you
>"S'no badge it ain't. They's know'n you peep'd."
>"This'n a auto peep'r. Keep'n peep's on ya. They see's all ya do."
>You ask if you should get rid of it but he says no
>"Tell'm too much. They's jus' curious. Ain't want'n know ya know more."
>He insists you continue on your journey but be more cautious
>Suddenly you hear a young girl yell out for her Pokemon to come back
>Her Pokemon has chased something into the forest from earlier
>She begs you to go find it and bring it back to her
>You look to the old man who pauses a moment, then nods
>The two of you go looking in the woods for the Pokemon
>You see some rustling in the bushes up ahead and go check it out
>A wild Pokemon jumps out and attacks you
>You defeat it and go back to the old man
>Old man is gone
>You begin to look around in a panic
>You notice movement in the trees
>Villain team grunt is staring at you before vanishing
>Dont know what to do so you just keep on your journey
>You collect several more badges without anything strange happening
>You begin to feel comfortable, but still worried
>You begin to travel through another forest
>It gets dark and you realize you're lost

(Cont...)

>>28127823
>You see a strange light in the distance
>You hesitantly approach it thinking maybe it's a Pokemon
>You follow it for a good distance
>It suddenly disappears without a trace
>Suddenly there's a blinding light
>Three villain grunts appear around you
>You battle them but fail, blacking out
>They grab you and disappear in a flash of light
>You wake up in a dark room
>Your Pokemon and supplies are gone
>The door to your room opens
>Creepy scientist looking of villain team comes in
>He claims they have a lot of work to be done
>You back away in fear
>Suddenly a Pokemon emerges from behind the scientist
>Pokemon knocks the scientist out
>It's the trainer's Pokemon you left with the professor
>You wonder why it's here
>Pokemon seems to be in a hurry and encourages you to follow
>You comply and follow the Pokemon out
>You're in what looks like a large research facility
>You and the Pokemon explore the facility
>You come across a room with two guards outside
>Pokemon helps you defeat the both of them
>You take the keycard off one of them and enter room
>It leads to a downward staircase
>You descend and find yourself in a hallway full of metal doors
>Each door has a small window
>You see what look like prisoners inside
>You gasp in fear
>Someone hears you and calls out to you
>You head towards the cell and find the old man
>"How'n yer get'r? N'vr ya mind, help's me 'scape."

(Cont...)

>>28127847
>Pokemon uses a powerful move to break the door open
>Old man guides you to the exit of the facility
>You battle your way through the facility
>Reach the exit but are blocked by team admin
>Battle team admin and defeat them
>As you head to the exit you hear a strange sound behind you
>Turn around to see the Admin pointing their hand toward you
>A strong electrical current jolts from their hand into the old man
>The old man collapses along with the Admin
>You grab the old man in your arms as he's dying
>He looks at you longingly
>He tells you that he's just glad he could see you again
>He tells you he's glad he could save you
>You're confused by this and assume he's just rambling from injuries
>He tells you everything will be clear soon and hands you a small object
>"I love'n ya... kiddo..."
>He dies
>You mourn him before looking at the object
>It's a small mirror
>As you look into the mirror your head feels funny
>Memories start to flood back to you
>You remember how you were abducted when you were young
>You remember how your Pokemon tried to save you but couldn't
>You remember seeing your father run out of the house screaming
>Your father looks like a younger version of the old man
>The old man was your father
>Your reflection is you as an adult
>You look just like the man that disappeared from the cave earlier
>Everything is clear to you now
>The years you spent locked up in your cell
>The vivid fantasies you created to block out reality
>Your father had finally found you and freed you
>He freed you along with the help of your childhood Pokemon
>You have your Pokemon carry your father's body and you leave the facility
>You head back to your old town; home

>>28127680
>If S/M can give me the sense of freedom that I felt when playing earlier gens, I'll forgive the shitty new pokémon designs.
Honestly, with islands and non-linearity, one would think the two would go hand-in-hand to at least some extent.
But since this is GF, I'm expecting them to make the game fully linear with bullshit roadblocks again.

>>28127868
A-anon.. are you okay? Do you want to talk about it?

Do you need a hug?

>>28124618
The trials are just pregame, the post game is actually the main game where you collect badges, face the elite four, and the champion. The mons on your pregame team and your pre-game boxes are locked from you and have a badge requirement based on their level.

One hundred new Pokemon. Not Alola n forms or megas. One hundred.

>>28124618
>Starter Evo Leaks either being wrong (unlikely) or their being split evos or different forms.
>Lots of new pokemon to counterbalance the small amount from gen 6.
>A better challenge than 6.
>Good villain group.
>Good ass postgame.
>Let me have an afro for a hairstyle.

>mega Dragonite and Arcanine
>a decent post game
>current """confirmed" starters being fake
>at least 100 new pokemon

not asking for much tbf

>>28124618
Those awful final form starter evos being fake

>>28124618
Greater than or equal to 150 pokemon

>>28128435
>so many people hating on the starters
>all this bad taste

I know I'll enjoy myself. Minimum requirement is always that the music be decent, and I think it will be.

At least 100 new Pokemon. The thing I look forward to most in a gen is the new Pokemon, which is the reason why I hate gen 6.

>>28128738
You''re the one who likes these piles of shit i'd say the one with bad taste is you and the rest of your kind.

>>28124906
ITCHA BOY ITCHA BOY ITCHA BOY

>>28124618
MULTICONTESTS
Better amie

>>28124618
I want them to be fun, make me feel glad I sat down to play them. That's about it. It would be fantastic if it had post-E4 content that had substance too though.

Mega Hitmonchan

>>28124956
>No genwun pandering
See: Alola forms
>Decent story
I think we can safely assume that it will be better than X&Y's story.
>Mechanics from old games like Dexnav, Contests, Super Training, PSS, etc
Contests a shit
>Over 40 hours of gameplay
Even BW2 didn't have that much.
>Trainer rematches
Maybe, would be cool but not a dealbreaker either way.
>Good variety of Pokemon
Seems likely.
>New megas
pls no
>Non Gen 1 Alolan forms
Unlikely.
>Over 30 new megas
Go away
>A post game battle frontier that has good facilities and rental Pokemon.
Post game should be decent but I wouldn't expect rentals.
>Great music
Probs
>Removal or option to change natures
This is possible given Super Training, Ability Capsule and now Hyper Training.
>Hyper training for non lvl 100 pokemon
Bad idea and won't happen.
>Actual difficulty
Not happening. You'll have to make your own difficulty.
>Fixing shitty types and nerfing OP types
I doubt there will be any type changes this gen.
>Fixing old pokemon by giving them new stats
Maybe the occasional +10 to a stat like in Gen 6.

>I'm 99% sure i'm going to be disappointed.
You don't say.

>>28125758
This is all I really want. Cool mons and a fun, interesting game.

>at least 100 pokemon with 30 or more alolan forms
>decent postgame and something new to replace battle maison
>also I hope megas come back :(

>>28127671
>>28127703
>>28127723
>>28127744
>>28127790
>>28127823
>>28127847
>>28127868
Talk about a triggered autist
Jesus man he just didn't want the game to be too easy

>>28124618

Some fucking form of Post Game that isn't "collect shit that you've been collecting for years already" or isn't just a Battle Tower reskin.

>>28128321
The only one of these that has a chance of happening is
>a decent post game
and maybe
>at least 100 new pokemon
if you include Alolan forms.

>>28124722
Honestly, just this. I always have fun playing Pokemon, so as long as the games resemble what they should, I'm happy.

>>28125758
This.

>>28129558
There will be 130 new Pokemon not including Alolan Forms.

>>28124618
Just don't fuck up too much.
>Starter leaks are real and we don't get better looking evolutions
>Team skull is stupid
>Trial Challenges are tedious
>Very little postgame content
>Metagame gets worse
>The story has stupid moments
>Still have to carry an HM slave for shit like cut and strength

I wouldn't mind if a couple of these things were to happen like the starters or the postgame, just so long as it isn't everything on this list.

>>28128947

Just shut up and box them, you over dramatic bitch.

>>28124618
>Mewtwo Z that isn't a hideous abomination like X & Y
>Last minute reveal that we're getting both gym leaders AND whatever this new island challenge shit is
>Battles that are actually hard
>Both legendaries being catchable in the same game
>Post game content
>Rematchs
>Something with Unown.

>>28128947
>NO U!

>>28124722

>>28124618
At least 4 major locations before beating the game that are optional, but still worth exploring.

>>28124618
>>28124618
new megas or battle frontier esque post game

>>28125227
this

>>28124618
>In depth trainer customization
>Trainer based mega-Evo like Ash greninja
>in depth lore like dppt
>over 100 new Pokémon
>event tickets where you go to New islands like the old games to catch legendary pokemon
>post game
>post game area, wish we could revisit kalos or even hoenn where the bf has been completed, doubtful
>if not above post game give me one incorporating red and other MCs being on the island that we have to find and challenge

>>28124836
>WAH THEY RUINED THE FIRE STARTER
>Caring about the starters THIS much
Cool the autism. My favorite type is Ice, but you don't see me bitching about never getting an Ice starter. If you hate Litten's evo so much, choose someone else, then catch a Fire type from the wild. Don't be such an aspie.

>>28124618
More things to help ease players into competitive play (things like Hyper Training seem good)

Some kind of postgame and battle facility. Just give us something fun to do in the postgame.

New, powerful Pokemon. I'm curious what the pseudo's gonna be like.

Interesting Legendaries.

>>28124618
Alolan Ninetales and Cutiefly exist so I am already sold. A shame about the starter evos but I care about the other pokes more.

>>28124618
Kizuna Gensho

I am pleasant with what has been introduced so far.

However, if I need to be minimalist, my only requirement from S/M to be perfectly optimized for both 2DS & 3DS family; handling all the graphical tasks with ease unlike Generation 6.

>>28125758
simple and achievable. i haven't lost all hope, even after a disappointing gen 6.

>>28124618
Trainers with actual movesets.

I'm looking at all of XY

/vp/ will complain and argue over starters until its released. No one will BTFO and next year another game is announced, and everything will go back to square one where the leak thirst and autism is worse than now.
Its a cycle

>A mode where you fight Totem Pokemon style bosses for the challenge. Pokemon over level 100 or special Horde fights against powerful wild Pokemon like a Honchkrow with Murkrow cronies etc
>Decent post game stuff:
>Legendary hunting requiring some steps to unlock instead of "Mewtwo's moping in a cave LOL" (ie 3 of the islands have their own roaming Johto beast/Kanto bird and catching them allows access to a dungeon on the 4th island where Ho-oh/Lugia if you have Sun/Moon respectively)
>Battle Frontier type area that has Pokemon Stadium style cups (party of 6, 3 used per battle, 8 fights per cup, different rules like Little Cup etc) and Emerald/Plat/HGSS facilities (Battle Hall etc)
>Challenge Mode after Elite 4. Your existing Pokemon are locked in the PC until you 'surrender' the run or beat the Elite 4. NPC trainers are smarter (no roulette for moves) and have higher leveled Pokemon, Bosses have different team compositions and more Pokemon then normal game. Wild encounters are expanded to include more National Pokedex Pokes, including some that didn't appear at all before

>>28125149
why do we need a source for the inclusion of megas? seems to me that a mechanic that's been prominent in the anime and tow rounds of games should be assumed to continue unless we specifically hear otherwise.

>>28124618
Better than XY

>>28125519
mods please delete this, too much for my gentle eyeballs

>>28124836
still waiting for that rephrased opinion

if i get to go on a date watching fireworks with a cute girl again I will be happy

>>28125133

>I have not played Generation 5

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Good fps
Entertaining story

Bonus extra satisfaction:
toggle for running shoes

>>28130407
I believe he means plot related game, not Bike simulator 2016.

>>28124618
Good story
Better customization
Battle Frontier/PWT tier post game
"Synchro"
Rebalancing old mons/everything in general

For max satisfacto
A way to guarantee genders
A good amount of megas and synchros for diversity
Remove the mega limit since shit would actually be rebalanced

>>28124722
This

>>28125922
>Oh quit being such a little faggot. I ran fire starters all the way until Gen 5. When Gen 6 rolled around, instead of bitching about Delphox I decided to try something new and ran with Greninja and whadaya know HE WAS AWESOME. So cool your fucking autism and try something else for once instead of bitching about things outside your control.

What did he mean by this?

>>28124618
Don't be Black/White.

i want a secret base alike in combo with trainer customisation
One out of two is confirmed

Alola seems already really pretty and a much alive world, if these two features combine are in the game, it'll be like living in the pokemon world

Also i want PWT and some minigames

>>28132937
He was coming out to vp, anon.

>luchalitten leaks to be fake
>megas for more pokemon
>alolan forms for more than gen 1 faggotry
>gyms
>a league
>the anime features the kid as protagonist and ash as the new brock
>cute girls
>cute boys
>chinese leaks are fake

>Bromon gets something
>Team Skull doesn't get turned into shit
>Battle Frontier or equivalent

That's all I ask.

Make Salandit not suck, or add a new Poison type that's good.

>>28124631
Setting yourself for quite a lot of disappointment, aren't you, senpai?

Fun.

>>28135925
Screencapped. Watch yourself, leakfag.

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I still don't understand WHY they're moving away from megas. I'm fine with them not being in the forefront like last gen, but to not introduce new ones? Its stupid.

It would be like introducing TMs in gen 1, but then not adding/rotating anymore afterwards

>>28124618
Kalos as postgame

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>>28124618
But no, actually, as long as we get more new interesting type combinations I'll be set. Salandit's Fire/Poison seems like it'll be pretty cool and it's nice to have a non-legendary, non-mega Fire/Dragon finally. But it'd be nice to get some other unused pairings too - Electric/Fighting, Dark/Fairy, Poison/Steel...

I'll just say a Fire/Grass tiki mon though. I'd be really surprised if that didn't happen, even though we have the Island Guardians already. It'd be nice if it was its own separate Pokemon, but I could settle for an Alolan Probopass instead if that ends up being the case.

At least 100 new Pokemon.

120 new Pokemon, not including Alola forms
Of course if the game is good I'll still be happy, but give me 120 new Pokemon and around 40 Alolan variants, and unless they screw up the gameplay I'd be okay.

>>28124956
>minimum

>>28135958
>I still don't understand WHY they're moving away from megas

Because Megas were a mistake and ruined the competitive meta

>>28124956
that is a sci-fi request, man, pokemon runs on a 3ds!

>>28136247
Ok I'll bite, In what way? Out of the 56 pokemon in OU, only 13 of them are megas. That number goes down further when you realize only 6-7 megas are actually used

I want Krabby in the Regional Dex and for there to be no more than Surf as Water HMs go. I haven't been able to use my favorite Genwun mon since the Phys/Spec split and it fucking kills me.

>>28124836
Did your phone autocorrect "I'm a little bitch with a worthless, literally lacking in any measurable worth, opinion?

>>28135866
>Wants nothing new or changed

*Long and fun post-game (including Battle Frontier)
*At least mild difficulty or challenge. Maybe an "Experienced" mode or make Totem mons and SOS Battles relatively hard? Fortunately, Gen V Exp. Scaling has returned.
*Nerf Megas or delete it altogether. Biggest travesty in the franchise.
*At least 90 new mons. I'd rather have quality over quantity.

They've already removed the grid system, HM's, gyms, and introduced Alola Forms, so I'm already pleased desu.

>>28125074
as long as they don't want to lowkey rule the word or some shit I'm good

fucking team flare man WHY

>>28136299
the strong megas were all banned at smogon

in vgc, which is the meta gf 'balances' for, megakang is pretty grody, and salamence isn't far behind

>>28125214
>team skull to have down to fuck goals
fixed for your grl plumeria

>>28124618
Over 100 Alolan forms.
Fucking fix the boat load of FU shitmon.

>>28124618
>at least 90 new pokemon + 30 Alola forms
>sizable postgame. I'm not even asking for a Battle Frontier, I just want something more substantial than another fucking reskinned Battle Tower
>no annoying rivals like XY's
>no god awful story like XY's
>no new megas
>no Ash Greninja
>fuck gen 6

>>28124618
Can be able to be played on a PSP Vita

>>28124618
It gets released

>>28124618
Hard mode

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Fixing bugbros.
But they won't

You encounter Alola Vulpix early, so I can catch one and use it through the entire game.

>>28125500
Get this reddit head outta here!

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>>28124618
Ballio being real

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>>28136729

>>28136678
Hello, John Gamefreak here. We've heard the community's complaints on Bug types, so we've included a whole "swarm" of new ones in Pokemon Sun and Moon, releasing November 18th! We hope these new Bug types will satisfy you.

Incidentally, we also realized that due to a programming oversight in Gen 2, Bug type attacks have been dealing super-effective damage against Dark types this whole time. Whoops! This has been corrected in Gen 8. Thank you for being our loyal customers!

Mega Johto starters, please

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>>28124618
Mega Slowking
That's all I want.
Or no megas at all

>>28136679
>Aloa forms are post game content
CANT WAKE UP

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>>28136753
not AGAIN mr.gamefreak!!

>>28136810
>rival gets them before us and cucks us the whole game with them
WAKE ME UP

>>28127868
/lit/'s that way >>

I was into that tho good job anon

>>28124618
Post game that isn't just a side story and battle maison.

A finale that feels like a challenge.

The game being fun

Postgame.

For fucks sakes give me a postgame facility that goes beyond the bare minimum.

>>28137833
Haven't played oras yet but did that have a decent postgame?

>>28124618
An actual fucking end game. I don't care what anyone says, a 10 minute "episode" and an incomplete battle stadium is not an end game.

S/M has already been ruined for me.

1) Changing IVs with bottle caps? IVs are genes. You don't change genes after you're born. Breeding is the way to manipulate IVs in pokemon. End of.

2) More forms. Way too many forms. It's like gf is afraid of having "too many" pokemon. So they make few new ones and keep spitting forms and forms. Last time it was megas, now alolan forms. Awful.

3) No gyms. Island trial my ass. pokemon league should be a staple of every core-game. End of.

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>>28124618
>Secondary Starter evos
>Immediate Poke-Bank transferals if above doesn't come to fruition
>Megas stay
>More than Gen1 getting Alola Forms
>Rockruff's "secret" being more than just "it evolves in a special way!" that has nothing to do with pre-existing evolution methods.

Get all of those and you've got me sold with the game.

>>28138035
Not really. It had the Battle Resort which contained a Battle Maison and a side story called the Delta Episode. There were some battles in it, but it was mostly just running around Hoenn. Since you have all the HMs and beat the Elite 4, New Mauville and Sea Mauville to explore.

Like the other anon was trying to say, it's kinda short.

>>28124688
Online battle frontier.

>>28125732
You arent anon, kalos is basically confirmed to be available as post game since masuda said zygarde was important to the story in a way fans will like plus megas still havent been anounced so we will most likely get them via kalos

>>28138183
>DON'T CHANGE THINGS REEEEEEEEEE
Actual, unironic autism.

Post game content.

>>28138183
Verlisifurry, is that you?

>>28124618
The games are released on time and some stupid eurofag, slant eye, cananacuck doesn't leak the entire thing a week early this time.

>>28138183
Stop posting on this board and don't play SM. Stop being an tithed cunt who think the games cater solely to you.

>>28138603
FUCK YOU. You want a fucking board to be just positive comments?????????? Then why have a board at all????? Just assume everyone loves everything and be done with it. Motherfucker.

>>28138638
Literal autism.

>>28138666
fuck you.

>>28124618
RobinHoot being real

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>>28138183
>More forms
You don't see how based it is because you're too short-sighted.

We're almost at 1k pokemon. I'd like to think that we're coming to a gradual stop on how many NEW pokemon we get.

New forms though? They allow GF to open up a whole new avenue for "New" pokemon. You would have to be a pants-on-head retard not to see the potential.

>>28138666
First time I've seen anyone on this board use that correctly without an asshole prompting them.

>>28138752
all I see is gf being "hey, we need more pokemon... well, fuck it. let's recolor old ones".

That's all alolan forms is. We could have a fucking NEW ice/fairy pokemon... all we got is a different ninetails.

>>28138771
What, literal or autism? Because both are incredibly misused.

>>28132964
>Don't be Black/White
So you want it to suck like XY?

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>>28138783
>We could have a fucking NEW ice/fairy pokemon
And there you go saying we need to add new pokemon again. I'm sure everyone would appreciate having to get 40k different pokemon in their dexes in 2040+

Just think for a moment.

New forms means we get all those types we wanted.

New forms means GF gets to throw the "alternate form" fags a bone.

New forms means we don't have to break the souls of everyone by continuously ramping up their dexes to infinity.

Honestly, if you can't see the path you want GF to go down for what it truly is, then there is no hope for people like you.

>>28136450
>wanting gyms and the league means he wants nothing new
>ignores the rest of the post

Just be fun. If I'm not engaged and intrigued 10 hours into the game, it's highly likely I won't play through to the end. My least favorite gens, I knew by the 3rd badge that I wasn't having fun.

All I ask is for a good story, interesting variety of mons to catch, and a well-designed region to explore.

>>28138390
this, battle pyramid but online for example. Almost a hunger game for Pokemon.

But battle frontier in general would please be.

also 6v6 battle spot singles would be nice.

>>28139022
because having different forms goes against the god damn concept of a pokemon being an individual species. if ninetales is a fire-type pokemon, why would ninetales have a ice/fairy variant? what about a grass variant? or a ghost variant? why don't we just cut the middle man and just play with 18 pokemon, one for each type and be done with it? you're ridiculous.

>>28124618
Assault Vest for physical.
Hidden Power for physical.
Ability suppressing item

Mon with Pickpocket, Acrobatics and Fling

A non-Legendary ice type with good speed and special attack

>>28124618
vgc meta being better than gen 6s
a better single player than gen 6
bottlecaps being easy to aquire

>>28124618

Battle related post-game.

>>28129756
I think it'd be cool if the main game was something like what we are seeing with the four islands and the challenges, and then you are able to try the Pokemon League challenge as post-game, gyms, elite four, all that.
Eh???

>>28138183
>1) Changing IVs with bottle caps? IVs are genes. You don't change genes after you're born
CRISPR, we can already do it on some level

>>28138183
>1)
First, we already molecularly break our Pokemon down into data to fit inside of a Pokeball. This data is already modified whenever you take your balls to the Pokemon center, and they remove that hole Stealth Rock left in Charizard's chest.

Second, Genes in the pokemon world are not like genes in our world. Giving your dad a red string while he fucks your mother, who is holding a smooth grey rock won't make your little sister more like your dad, but with your mother's personality. Giving your mother some floral incense won't make your little sibling a less-developed version of a child, either.

Third, have you ever jammed a bottlecap into your DNA, and tried it for yourself?

Mega Johto starters. That's all I want. The rest is just a bonus.

>>28139146
>Being this triggered about logic in a pokemon game
If you're so upset about color and typing in a childrens game just transfer from a different gen, you autist.

>>28124618
I think it's pretty much there, the only thing I want from it is a decent challange. XY was way too easy, ORAS didn't feel that challenging either, it felt just like XY but in Hoenn. Maybe an option to change difficulty, but that's very unlikely.

I only care about the competitive battling. As long as the meta isn't as lame and boring as it is in ORAS, I'll be fine. XY meta was fun, I get the feeling SM will be too.