Do you see SM introducing any Mega Fug tier Pokemon?
Zygarde 100% seems feasible as a contender, I think the math played it out with base 226 HP?
zygarde needs to be low hp to get to niggerdaddy form which can easily be countered by just OHKO or two hit KOing him
>>28109997
Focus Sash.
>>28110006
>two hit ko
>entry hazards
>status
even then he's using up an items slot whereas mega fug can get anything he wants
>>28109997
It's bulky enough t not die to most hits.
Also Chesto/Lum and rest to get him fresh.
>>28109903
If they don't change the way no guard works, choice scarf no guard fissure machamp could be a weapon to surpass mega fug.
>>28110032
>Talonflame used Peck
>>28109903
Even if they stop making Megas for normal Pokemon, I'm pretty sure they'll keep making them for legendaries and pseudos. Mega Giratina and Kyurem will probably be of similar power
>Camouflage to get normal type
>Transform to 100% Zygarde
>Kill shit with STAB Espeed
Probably won't be mega fug tier, but it'll be ridiculous and probably have a bunch of good sets
>>28110039
>Go talonflame
>Machamp used stone edge
>>28110013
I had to look up it's stats and boy are they fat. With investent in HP and Defense and SpAt or Atk and give it an Assault Veast, since you want an all out attacker, and it can tank hits good. Plus, all it needs is to be slightly under 50% to transform, like Wishiwashi, so yeah.
>>28110051
>GALE
>WINGS
>>28110061
Gale wings won't help when you switch in
>>28110048
Not bad. I was thinking Sub/Glare/Coil/sweep, but that's not a bad idea at all.
Would be interesting to see Camouflage finally get some competitive use.
>>28109997
Just use Substitute and you get it right away.
>>28109997
Zygarde is a lot bulkier than you think in the first place anon, a lot of ice punch users won't even successfully ohko it. 100% is going to be a monster.
>>28110006
Skill Link Icicle Spear
>>28110087
Why though? The modifier is the same whether you take the turn to get a STAB boost or a 1.5x attack boost. Only, the former removes your dragon and ground STAB's. You're better off using Coil or Dragon Dance unless you reeeally can't stand dealing with Zygarde's weaknesses.
>>28110178
I hope they are kind and make Recover a tutor for it.
>>28109903
Every game from now on will introduce something "game breaking" along with a Pokémon that tops all else. XY introduced Mega Evolution and a bunch of Pokémon that instantly got banned from being OP. ORAS introduced Primal Reversion AND Mega Fug. SM is introducing Z-Moves and Perfect Zygarde, and I'm sure P-Zygarde will be Mega Fug tier once people get to play with it and make real strategies using it. And Diamond/Pearl remakes will introduce something new that will once again break the game, with Giratina or Arceus being the new "mascot of OP-ness".
>>28110032
>>28110061
>>28110064
Just use an eviolite, no guard Machoke as well. It , unlike Machamp, survives CB brave bird from talonflame and still OHKOs Talonflame with a 0 attack evs invested stone edge.
>>28110233
I vote Arceus. I have a hard time seeing many ways for Giratina to become that overpowered, honestly.
>>28110194
Now tell me who's crazy/idiot enough to stay in againts a Cloyster with a 4x weakness to Ice. Doesn't matter what shadow you might cast, Zygarde will be a threat.
>>28110233
>YFW Zygarde is the creator of Z-Moves
>Arceus will be the creator of A-Moves
>>28110246
Could a full health, 100% Zygarde tank that, based on our predictions of its stats? Because if it could, that would be fucking terrifying.
>>28110244
Unless they give it Megas where it fuses with the Reversion World and becomes the equivalent of an antimatter black hole, then I can't see Giratina being to broken.
>>28110199
>its ability when it goes into 100% is to bring it back to 100% HP
>>28110253
It's base HP would be at least or over 180. Give it high defense stats and it can survive ANYTHING.
>>28110258
50 points to both Defenses and an ability that makes it immune to all status moves.
150/170/170 bulk
>>28110032
>Surpass m-ray
>Can't beat m-ray
Sure thing.
>>28110290
Helloooo AG.
>>28110199
I have a prediction, that if Zygarde wrecks enough shit while at 100%, Healing Wish Latias might well make a rise in Ubers.
>>28110305
Only if it can also hold Leftovers.
>>28110006
Maybe if this was 2008
>>28110331
Refer to >>28110246