What the fuck was his problem? All the other protagonists are

he's a twat

Probably just his game face. Watch pokemon origins, he's as much a goofball as all the other protagonists

>>28103775
He's focusing on how large the Kanto region is and what is the proper way a 10 year old can conquer it in less than 5 episodes.

Why wouldn't the greatest Trainer in the world look like a hardass?

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>>28103775

he has to deal with this asshole everyday

>>28103898
this is 20 years old now
and it still looks better than the new stuff

>>28103898
I am so happy to be born in the same year pokemans was created

>>28103955
Ye verily. Simple design. Determined face. That's Pokemon Champion material.

>>28103955

opinions.

I like both, artists change.

>>28103898

Trust me kid, it was better to be born 9 or 10 years before it came out

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>>28104083
>kid

If Red's canon team is
> Pikachu
> Venusaur
>Charizard
> Blastoise
> Snorlax
> Lapras/Espeon

What are the other protagonists' canon/PWT teams?

>>28103775
This is his remake artwork, created after he was given a role as a "Champion" (Boss)

At least his Gen I artwork show him with grin but also with angry eyes.

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>>28103775
The smile doesn't suit him.

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>>28103775
Asshole friend that went on to bully him because he wanted to have a bigger dick.

Red got interested in Pokemon to deal with Blue being an ass, its said in game that Red takes Pokemon battles really seriously in fact.

He's only protag in the series to have zero help from anyone taking on an evil team, because everyone in Kanto is useless.

He just ends up training for the rest of his days after becoming champ, his mom even saying he hasn't seen her since.

Pokemon is really all he's got.

>>28103806
I like the idea that its his game face more anyways.

>>28104221
>hilbert/hilda didn't have a post game fight in B2W2 like Red did
i'm still mad

>>28104221
May/Brendan:
Blaziken
Sceptile
Swampert
Wobbuffet
Castform
Kecleon

The rival of Hoenn gets Pokemon to fill in the role of his starter, so there's no reason for them to not get all just to make no starter canon like they did with Red.

Ethan:
Typhlosion (or whatever starter you think he gets)
Togekiss
Sudowoodo
Shuckle
Hitmontop
Gyarados (Shiny)

You can also put Dragonite with extremespeed up there, but its more of Lance's thing, so I didn't count it.

Lucas/Dawn:
Torterra
Infernape
Empoleon
Drifblim
Lucario
Rotom

Like with Hoenn and Kanto, Sinnoh's rival gets Pokemon to fill in the role for his starter, so they can get all.

Wes:
Umbreon
Espeon
Plusle
Skarmory
Metagross
Tyranitar

Plusle is given to you in story, and I picked the non-legendary Pokemon that take the longest to purify.

Hilbert/Hilda:
Samurott (or whatever you think is canon)
Darmanitan
Simipour (same monkey typing as the starter)
Zoroark
Reshiram (or Zekrom)
Victini

Due to Cheren having the monkey that his starter has a disadvantage to during your memory link battle, it leads me to believe he traded his monkey for the protag BW1's monkey.

Victini isn't on that island you get it from during BW1 in BW2.

Nate/Rosa:
Emboar (or whatever you think is canon)
Sawsbuck
Crustle
Blissey
Volcarona
Zekrom (or Reshiram)

BW1 protag can also get a Volcarona, but I didn't want to repeat Pokemon between characters.

Serena/Calem:
Greninja (or whatever you think is canon)
Delphox (would be the starter weak to their main one)
Banette
Tyrantrum
Aurorus
Meowstic (Same gender as who you're battling)

Shauna gives you the baby of her starter, which is always weak to yours.

Threw in the fossils since there really isn't any events that aren't repeats of other games, and both to not make one canon over the other.

The character you don't play as in XY has the Meowstic that's the same gender as them, so in that case why not the protag get the counterpart is my idea on that.

>>28104221
Just take all the forced encounter/giftmons in all the games and apply them to the teams with some combination of starters.

>Gen 2 has Starter/Sudowoodo/Eviolite Togetic/Shiny Gyarados/Hitmontop/Extremespeed Dragonite
>Gen 3 has Starter/Castform/Kecleon/Wailord/Relicanth/Metagross
>Gen 4 has Starter/Lucario/Togekiss/Spiritomb/Rotom/something
>Gen 5 has Starter/Opposite Monkey/Volcarona/Zoroark/Sawsbuck/Probably their legendary because it was the only canon legendary capture

>>28104265
>Come and get fuckin rekt

>>28103775
Pokemon is probably the bane of his existence, plus battling, even has the VS. Seeker shown just to wreck your shit again.
and also this >>28103898

>>28103775
Nothing. He's just a misunderstood introvert with an extreme case of resting bitch face where he always seems to look pissed off at someone, but in actuality he's really cool, fun, and down-to-Earth. He may appear standoffish anf mean, but he's actually thinking of happy things like tits, ice cream, and Pokemon.

>>28104265
I like it

>>28103775
E D G E

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>>28104265
>Thinking you can out smug the champ

>>28103968
MO-
>20 years ago

Goddamnit

>never knew his Father
>rival is a complete asshole to him 24/7
>picked Charmander so the first two gyms were a pain in the ass
>never got recognition for anything he did besides the Master Ball from the Silph Co owner
>gets to the Championship battle only to find his Rival beat him there again
>finally wins and then Oak runs in to slam his grandson down for being a dick, which is a really awkward situation to be in
>felt bad for his rival and didn't want to go home cause it reminded him of his missing Father
>no longer has purpose in life
>just goes and sits on a mountain top with his Pokemon forever

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>>28103775
nigga's salty that his anime counterpart will be never as good as he is.

>>28103898
You know, looking at the designs a little closer... Was Sugimori an assistant for Toriyama at one point? Those proportions and the legs and shoe style feel very DBZ-esque.

>>28103796
He's a twerp

>>28103775
10 long years of anal sex

>>28104177
>me on the right
So that makes you the sword? Or the photoframe?

>>28104083
>that good if odd feel when you were 10/11 when Pokemon came out.

It definitely made self-inserting oddly easy.

>>28106050
Minor furfaggotry spoiler:
Oddly, I want to see Nick Wilde dressed as Blue now for maximum smug.

>>28106111
jeez, when you put it that way, Red kind of had a shitty life.

>>28106111
>never knew his Father
>felt bad for his rival and didn't want to go home cause it reminded him of his missing Father
He talks about how his dad would like some sport show that's on one of the TVs, so this is bullshit.

>never got recognition for anything he did besides the Master Ball from the Silph Co owner
He's calls the champion from Pallet Town by some NPC in HGSS, and he's called a living legend in BW2.

>>28103775
His father is Ash. Remember Steven says its been years since he met Rayquaza with Alain.

>>28106349
That wouldn't make sense anon.

>>28106316
well that debunks that.

Still, I think a lot of Red's apparent sourness as others suggested is just his 'game face'.

>>28106349
weirdly, I always headcanon'd Red is Ash's father.

>yfw the final anime episode has Red offer his son a match.
>Cue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK0xyRL1A-k

>>28106222

Nah, he was just very influenced by his style like every guy he grew up with DBZ.

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>>28106349
>ash
>doing sex
>having a gf

>>28106316
What about that theory that Red's father is geovanni?

>>28106684
I'm sure Red would know who his dad is unless his dad is a cuck

Giovanni already has a son anyway, that due to Red has broken them apart.

>>28106702
Who is giovanni's son?

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>>28106720
This fag. They even foreshadow it in FRLG by having a grunt think that Red's Giovanni's son, but then remembering he has red hair.

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>>28106746
>silver have red hair
>red is called red
red is silver brother confirmed

>>28103775
play hgss and talk to his mother
she doesn't know where he is or anything

doesn't talk to anyone (except copycat once) and spends his alone in the mountains

sounds straight like a weird asshole

>>28106858
Its implied that he spends his time just training and improving himself.

You have martial arts stories like that as well, where a person will get away from other people to hone their skills.

>>28103775
>All other protagonists are portrayed as retards in their official artwork
Ftfy

I honestly don't even like Red's FRLG official art. Color scheme is complete ass. Pink and baby blue? What the fuck? How about, gee, I dunno, fucking red?

Not a fan of the brown hair either, but I get why they did it (to distance Red from Ash).

>>28103968
. . . Jesus christ. I was mowing lawns to get an N64 in '96.

>>28103898
Why does he wear that water badge on his hat?

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>>28106111
>>never knew his Father

>>28106288
29 years old. Still play. I watched it change from a blocky, elemental version of Rock/Paper/Scissors, into a matrix of millions of possible Pokemon/attack/item combinations, and a metagame which requires reasonable predictions and immediate responses to each. While some of the new mon designs are fucking retarded, which we all know is true (Vanillite line, Klefki, etc), the game on the whole has consistently improved over the years. It's become more immersive, more competitive, and more demanding of critical thinking. What started off as a promising gimmick has since become a legendary cash cow, and it did so because the developers took it seriously. The only real step back I feel they ever took with the Pokemon franchise, was when they skipped the Day/Night system between GSC and RSE.

>>28103955
This honestly. It's not even a genwunner viewpoint, the old art is just pleasing to look at and unique.

>>28107305
Also 29 here, everything you said is wrong. The game has generally moved forward, but your reasoning is incorrect.

The metagame requires predictions and responses to seven or eight teams composed of 10 to 20 pokemon. The gen 1 meta had just as many viable pokemon, it's that bad. Some of the new mon designs are retarded, but klefki and vanillite are not them, more like delphox and dialga. The game has become more immersive, but no more competitive or requiring of thought. If anything, the game has become LESS demanding of critical thinking. A lot of systems have been dropped outside their introduction and the remakes of those games, tho. Not just day/night cycle.

But, there is something you got super right. Pokemon has become a legendary cash cow.

>>28107440
>wrong
>opinions

Lol.
Also, I play with what I like, Delphox being among them. I don't let Smogon determine how I enjoy what I paid for.

>>28107161
he dicking musty

>>28104659
>The rival of Hoenn gets Pokemon to fill in the role of his starter, so there's no reason for them to not get all just to make no starter canon like they did with Red

What in the fuck did I just read??

>>28107661
Did you not see Blue's team in GSC/HGSS?

His team is literally just his RGB/FRLG team with the Pokemon that fill the role of the starters in their place.

Hoenn and Sinnoh rivals do the exact same thing.

>>28107624
is blue dicking blaine?

>>28104382
how does he have charmeleon and wartortle

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>>28108413
Who knows.

>>28103775
Red is an autistic psychopath degenerate.
ironically Blue (Gary) is more sociable.

>>28103955

Pikachu and Charizard look fine, but I don't care for the proportions on Red and Blue.

>>28104265

Doesn't look bad

>>28107025

I see red, not pink.

>>28107161

Huh, it's sort of interesting that Blue has the Volcano badge while Red has the Cascade badge.

>>28106672
this

Ash is such a manlet dweeb brown turk faggot who can't get a gf and is too stupid to even try.

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>>28108597
>Huh, it's sort of interesting that Blue has the Volcano badge while Red has the Cascade badge.

there was official art that also showed him with some sort of flowerbud emblem on his hat and Gary had a fully opened up flower symbol instead.

>>28104221
Ethan/Lyra:
>Meganium
>Typhlosion
>Feraligatr
>Ampharos
>Togekiss
>Tyranitar

Brendan/May:
>Sceptile
>Blaziken
>Swampert
>Gardevoir
>Kecleon
>Metagross

Lucas/Dawn:
>Torterra
>Infernape
>Empoleon
>Lucario
>Staraptor
>Glaceon

Hilbert/Hilda:
>Serperior
>Emboar
>Samurott
>Zoroark
>Volcarona
>Braviary

Nate/Rosa:
>Simisage
>Simisear
>Simipour
>Liepard
>Galvantula
>(Shiny) Haxorus

Calem/Serena:
>Chestnaught
>Delphox
>Greninja
>Sylveon
>Tyrantrum
>Aurorus

Game face. Now we got a bunch of funfag protagonists.

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>>28108650

Looks like the Earth and Rainbow badges

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>>28108675
You want game face protagonists huh?

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>>28104221
Nigga this is Red's canon team

>>28110206
Origin is canon and the games aren't? Sure thing, bud.

>>28110206
>>28110266
That's Tajiri's team.

>>28108413
>what is trading

>>28108453
>this is Ash's final team. As long as he does not appear with this team, he wont win the league

>>28103775
He is portrayed as happy and determined in the original artwork, the one most of his adaptations (sans Origins) were based on.

>>28103806
Origins is no more and no less true to canon than the adaptations in the manga or the Ashnime.

>>28103895
But that's not Hilbert.

>>28103834
By the power of off-screen battles and montages!

>>28104382
>He's only protag in the series to have zero help from anyone taking on an evil team, because everyone in Kanto is useless.
Including the evil team.

Also, nice fanfic.

>>28105171
>>28106046
This is, like, one art.

His epilogue running sprite is pretty happy.

>>28106111
nice fanfic

>>28106349
>>28106549
They are alternate continuities, the characters are not connected. What, you think Ash and Gary had identical-looking kids? Who ended up seeing the identical (and named the same) children of Brock, Misty and the rest of Gym Leaders?

C'mon.

>>28106802
What if "Red" is a nickname?

>>28108453
>>28108413
Pokemon Yellow is canon.

>>28108547
Except every adaptation of his, as well as his old art show him happy and determined.

>>28108650
See? Happy and determined.

It's more the fault of FRLG from moving so far from the original design.

>>28110320
At least he already has the FRLG hat.

>>28111361
>See? Happy and determined.
That doesn't look happy at all. It's more of a "I'm going to fuck that pretty mouth of yours boi" look.

>>28108704
good point. it might be related to that.

>>28108845
fuck that protag. he looks like Leafyishere. fucking degenerate shit protag.

>>28111361
good reasoning.

>>28103955
Looks like garbage.