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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/viewing order guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>****New trailer for upcoming events (Flare Arc)****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDLz9sHvm5A

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! [Aug 25th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8uCsb85u-E

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! [Sep 1st]
>XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! [Sep 8th]
>XY&Z42&43 1 Hour Special [Sep 15th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>27947774
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POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z17 POKETV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][08A85A9A].mkv.torrent

XY&Z36 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_036_Fierce_Fighting_at_the_Kalos_League!_Gather,_All_of_My_Passion!![H264_720P][53FB69AD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=839243

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z39: THE FLARE GANG ATTACKS! THE ZYGARDE AT THE PRISM TOWER!! (AUGUST 25TH)
>A Zygarde and lots of enormous plants suddenly appear. And as Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan attempt to get to the bottom of this mystery, the Flare Gang appear before them! And incredibly enough, their target is Satoshi...!

>Summary:
>Miare City is thrown into a huge panic when mysterious enormous plants attack. Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan head for the Prism Tower to find out the cause behind all this. But then the Flare Gang appear before them. Meanwhile, Fleur-de-lis starts telling the entire world about his ambitions...!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Karin Nanami: Correa
>Rinko Natsuhi: Akebi
>Akane Fujita: Bara
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! (Sep 1st)
>Clemont and the others decide to split into several groups in order to stop Team Flare's plans. Bonnie follows Squishy as it confronts Z2, which has transformed into its 50% Forme. But then the evil clutches of Team Flare strike! And just like Z2, Squishy also ended up getting controlled by Team Flare.

XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! (Sep 8th)
>As he attempts to retake the Lumiose Gym, Clemont challenges Team Flare scientist Xerosic to a battle, staking their pride as scientists.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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Writers treat Ash like shit.
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FUCK THIS.
FUCK. FUCK FUCK.
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Third nuke on Japan for ruining Serena and making Ash lose when?
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NO

FLYING

ALLOWED
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Daily Reminder
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>>27951265

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

I am in 100% agreement with this modification to the copypasta. I'm so sick and tired of people asking what the point of watching is anymore.
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TWO NUKES WEREN'T ENOUGH.
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>>27951153
Who will save Ash?
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POST THE FUCKING PREVIEW LINK NOW
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>>27951153
Ash is crucified for his misdeeds
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Who will own an Alolan Meowth
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>>27951153
>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

You're scaring me.
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SATOSHI DECIME QUE SE SIENTE
HABER PERDIDO LA FINAL
TE JURO QUE AUNQUE PASEN LOS AÑOS
NUNCA LO VAMOS A OLVIDAR

QUE TOBÍAS TE CAGÓ
CAMERON TE VACUNÓ
ESTÁS LLORANDO DESDE KANTO HASTA HOY

A ALAN LO VAS A VER
LA COPA NOS VA A TRAER
TIERNO SE VA A COJER A TU MUJER
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Don't forget guys: The red super saiyan water shuriken was never explained. It might have been a modification by Fleur de Lis.
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>>27951281
Fuck you. Look how those assholes rubbing salt on the wound.
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>>27951299
Team Rocket's Meowth will own his own people
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>>27951153
>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

That's the dumbest reason.
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>>27951309
Or be the physical water Z-move. But what a shitty way to show it off like this.
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>>27951295

READ

THE

OP
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>>27951294
Alan obviously :^)
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FREE ANIKI!
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>>27951329
Enjoy what? The Alain Mega Show?
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>>27951153
>>What's the point of watching it anymore?
>To enjoy the ride.
The ride crashed and burned, whoever stays is someone who enjoys seeing the metal become more and more twisted until it melts down entirely.
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>>27951281
Nice joke. When you have a show were they tell you something amazing will happen in every damn episode and in the end and it never happens its just a pure waste of time
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Greninja will defeat Alan's Charizard and redeem himself for that league loss, right?
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Post jobbers
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FUCK JAPAN. NUKE IT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLkhRMBOtzk
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>>27951337
d-dont scream at me serena im getting horny
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Why do tards keep parroting this retarded "IF ASH WINS A LEAGUE THE SHOW'S OVER THAT'S WHY HE ALWAYS LOSES" meme? We've known since DP that's not how it works.
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>Ash is saved from TF's captivity
>By TRio
>They do some unimportant stuff but catch the eyes of the cameras
>They, alongside Ash, are recognised as the heroes of Kalos and are permitted one request.
>They, in an act of genius, say that their only wish is to be able to help all of the poor abused pokemon TF left behind, Kalos agrees, and they get a shitload of pokemon to give to Giovanni AND they get credit for stopping the evil team. Due to this, he finally gets off their back an offers them a vacation

>Ash simply asks to be allowed to face the E4, he does okay but he ends up losing
>Diantha tells him that the stress of saving the world might be getting to him and he should take a nice long vacation in her summer home, alone
>Ash agrees, and after goodbyes, heads to Alola

>Team Rocket and Ash Adventures in Alola

would this setup give you hope for S/M?
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Now they crucify Ash? Someone stop this madness.
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>>27951294
None of the current people there can do anything, that's why Korrina will use mega Lucario to help free Ash.
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enough
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>>27951307
Kek .
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>>27951417
Nothing good can be expected from the anime.
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>>27951417
>nice long vacation in her
Lewd
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>>27951425
At least the writers are listening to what the senpaitachi have been asking since BW
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>>27951307
Y DALE ALEGRÍA ALEGRÍA A MI CORAZÓN
HACER SONREÍR A MANON ES MI OBSESIÓN
TENÉS QUE LLEVAR CONTIGO UN LIZARDON
SATOSHI PIERDE LAS LIGAS COMO CAGÓN

Y YAAAA VERÁS
QUE ALAN LA LIGA KALOS VA A GANAR
Y YAAAA VERÁS
QUE ALAN LA REGIÓN KALOS VA A SALVAR
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>>27951417
I'm not watching SM no matter what they do from now on. I've learned my lesson.
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>>27951463
I stopped playing the games because of this.
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>>27951417
>hope for the anime

AH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>27951443
Alola only gets old cable shows so they show Ash's Kanto league challenge to her as a child which inspired her
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Why do they hate Ash so much?
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>>27951476
I won't go that far, the games are a different beast and I still enjoy them.

Pokespe is also fucking finally getting released in my country starting in a couple months and I can't wait to get it. I'm just done with the anime.
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>>27951281
>to enjoy the ride
It's difficult to enjoy a beautiful ride through the countryside when eventually your ride ends up going down a chasm
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>>27951396
Beautifull, those old times didn't care about PC. Just fascistic conservatives doing what is right by bombing other countries into submission.
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>>27951294
Serena is likely with Clemont and Bonnie is with Blaziken man. So probably Alain
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>>27951494
>Kanto
At least make it Sinnoh.
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>>27951494
How would anyone get inspired by Ash's Kanto league? Or any of his leagues for that matter except maybe Shinno?
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what's with the anime and crucifixion?
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Is it safe to post Greninja now?
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>>27951538
>>27951541
Because he was cutest challenger
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I wonder if Alan thinks Ash must have like 3 league wins under his belt already.
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Will Lysandre finally be the villain to top Pokémon Hunter J?
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>>27951552
Gooks don't know shit about Christianism, it looks cool to them.
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>>27951500
I don't hate him per se.
I hate his delusional "ashfags" that refuse to acknowledge he's not that great of a trainer, and even a bad one considering all he has lived

Fucking ashfags I swear
Specially their leaders here Adamant and CGO
Stupid pair of imbeciles
Who is the pathetic one now?
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>>27951153
Are you seriously sperging about the OP still Holy shit let it go already
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h-hey no hard feelings right?
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>>27951429
i want to jerk off with her long hair
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>>27951552
There is just so much you can do with such a young audience desu.
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>>27951555
Never.

Funny, Greninja was loved and hated by a half of the fanbase each until this week, but after this last episode it has become one of them most hated/mocked Pokemon in the franchise.
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>>27951594
SHUT UP
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>>27951587
I consider them pretty much equal. J was more violent, but Lysandre is a huge manipulating asshole.
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>>27951459
ASH DECINOS QUE SE SIENTE
QUE ALAN DE VICE TE DEJO
TE JURO QUE AUNQUE PASEN LOS AÑOS
LA MANCHA , A VOS SE TE QUEDO

QUE ALAN TE VIOLO
Y CON VOS DEBUTO
Y LLORAS PORQUE EL CULO TE CERRO

QUE PIKACHU CAMINO
Y GRENINJA LA CAGO

Y ALAN EL OGT
TE ROMPIO!
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>>27951552
I wish everyone related to PokeAni at Sho-Pro, OLM, TvTokyo and TPC would get crucified. Even Shoko.
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Would you a Meloetta?
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>>27951555
>>27951594
Fuck off meme frog. Even with your special snowflake trasformation you aren't worth shit. Bring the Monkey back
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>serenafags
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>>27951589
Fag.
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>previous thread at page 6, 370 posts and 100 images
>makes new thread just to rewrite the OP
Stop this autism already
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>>27951555
>>27951594
VALES VERGA!
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>>27951673
>not being a serenafag
>still in /padt/

literally what are you doing with your life lmao
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I'm sure all those people in Japan who made Greninja win the 720 Election are really happy now. :^)

This is such a clusterfuck both writing- and marketing-wise. Now I'm just waiting for the announcement that Ash Greninja is in SM to see the reactions.
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>>27951657
Never watched the Anime past Johto, I thought the Infernape/super saiyan shit was just a meme

But now I see Infernape is literally Goku, your monkey is fucking dumb, dude
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>>27951636

We don't know that for sure, yet.
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>>27951652
Well, Pikachu was the one with balls on his team, let's be fair to the rat. And Hawlucha and Talonflame didn't do it that bad.

But Noivern walked in the league, Goodra had a bad case of cold chest, and Cuckninja literally choked. Higuain, Aguero and Messi, respectively.
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>>27951533
She is in a chopper with Manon you dipshit.
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>>27951715
Charizard is still number one worldwide

Fag
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>>27951694

Screw you faggot, the copypasta desperately needed to be changed. You autists whine about the status quo then throw a fit when the copypasta is changed, such hypocrisy.
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For some reason people think Alan won't be the one to save Ash.It would be perfect if he did since Ash-Greninja will save Kalos and Alan needs to redeem himself after helping the bad guys.
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>>27951714
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>>27951417
I could settle for this. But the executives hate fun, so never gonna happen.
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>>27951745
Fag.
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>>27951754
>Alan saves Ash and cucks him from being recognized as the Hero of Kalos

A fitting end.
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>>27951714
She's so cute why would anyone not be a serena fag
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>>27951281
> To enjoy the ride
What ride? Its been shit since the beginning.
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>>27951745
Dude. Nobody had even addressed the OP for several threads, then you suddenly make a new thread really early just to rewrite it. Stop sperging about it so much.
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>>27951780
Fag.
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>>27951314
You forgot one.
>World record junior log lift.
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>>27951541
"the affection he showed for his pokemon" or some other retarded generic friendship meme
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>>27951714
Is Ash a serenafag?
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>>27951718
Better than the frog
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>>27951714
There are two versions, long and short hair. Being a Serenafag sounds too general.
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>>27951742
[citation needed]

Also, Japan doesn't care about the West either way.
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>>27951800
I guess there are just so many other better girls to pick from
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>>27951745
>makes new thread early just to force an OP rewrite
>calls others autists
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>>27951834
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>>27951614
I've always hated Greninja because his backstory was just him being a seek power hungry asshole. When i saw him fall it was like a blessing from God
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>tfw /a/ is making fun of us again
Although it did get a chuckle out of me.
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>>27951805
>>27951870

Do your salty tears provide a good dose of iodine? :^)
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>>27951841
no, you just have shit taste. Both are top tier
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>>27951883
sick of this naruto bullshit
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You guys still like Charizard, right? You aren't gonna let a silly league match sour your opinion of him, right?

Ash-Greninja was a mistake so I'm glad Alain stopped that faggotry.
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>>27951816
Of coursh
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>>27951843
>Japan doesn't care about the West either way.

But the high executives do. That's why pokemon go exists in the first place

>also
Stay salty
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>>27951892
What is the full shot of this fanart?
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>>27951887
>Looks like you are off to the shadow realm Ashy Boy.
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>>27951860
fuck off scott
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>>27951892
I don't even mind this change personally, I just think it's really fucking spergy to make a thread so early just to force it with zero discussion.
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>>27951887
where? link?
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>>27951925
who cares?
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>>27951884
>Serena is nothing compared to Dawn

pretty much right
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>>27951892
>>27951892
serena pls dont cry be my waifu pls
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>>27951900
Of course he's my favorite pokemon
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>>27951925

Every time we try to have a discussion, some faggot just makes a new thread anyway and refuses to change it. I'm sure when the next thread is made, the copypasta will be changed back to how it was before and everyone will tell the people arguing about it to shut up and leave. Then, some guy will change the copypasta again, and the cycle will continue.

It's probably going to stay like this until XY&Z ends tbqh.
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>>27951900
When ash finally wins a league in gen 15, his mom should be watching and the pokemon who delivers the final blow should be Charizard or Pikachu.
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>>27951884
Dawn is a way better Pokegirl then Serena,and an even better Trainer.
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>>27951957
Why not both?
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>>27951940
>that bias
into the trash it goes
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>>27951939
You just know this is going to lead to retarded thread wars again.

>>27951954
I think that was the reason it stayed as is, really.
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>>27951957
It's going to be pikachu 100%. That's the only thing that's certain if he ever wins one.

Retards should have known he wasn't gonna win as soon as pikachu got knocked out
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Why did Greninja lose?
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>>27951900
The only Charizard that matters is Ash's charizard, nigga
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>>27951153
wait why are they doing this to ash now

it's like they listened to all the complaints of him being an OP Gary Stu then decided to shit on his life as hard as possible
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>>27951940
>>27951980
she's really not
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>>27951957
I love Charizard but it should definitely be Pikachu.
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>>27951996
I only know that because of fags like you bringing it up like any changes period wouldn't trigger shitposting.

>j-just change it what does it matter
why the fuck even bother? literally why, explain it to me.
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>>27951830
that is fucking hilarious though

look at that giant goofy frog, i love that guy
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>>27951901
Who's the bigger fag? Ash a Serenafag or Serena an Ashfag?
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>>27952014

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but this is the high-res version of your pic.
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>>27952014
Dawn and Serena are girly sex objects. Don't fight.
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>>27951153
Is the 1 hour special the end of XYZ?
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>>27951954
>>27952035
Ok, fuck it. The thread is at least relatively non-shitposty now. Let's just have that discussion now.

Do we keep it the way it currently is permanently, yes or no?
Not OP, by the way.Not that it matters, but I am the OP of the last thread
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>>27952081
I fucking hope so.
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Why can't you just give up and become my disciples and followers?

Do you really have all intention of going all down with the ship and fucking drown?
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>>27952081
No, XY&Z will run until November.
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>>27952086
there should be no discussion period. Stop shitposting.
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>>27952014
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>>27952056
And they know it, thats why they like each other
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>>27952056
Thats a hot shipping,I like it.
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Look at this dood, look at the top of his head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9_-7tWcr3Y
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>>27952009
If you analyze the technical aspect of the match

Charizard knocked Greninja down with Dragon Claw
Greninja knocked Charizard down with Aerial Ace axe kick
Charizard got up and sent Greninja flying back with another dragon claw
Greninja sent Charizard sliding back with a normal water shuriken
Thanks to the previous attack, Ash saw an opening and had enough time to ready a giant water shuriken
Instead of dodging or defending, Alan decided to meet the attack head-on with Blast Burn

Since both sides couldn't dodge when they were using their super moves, it was decided on who was tougher. Alan used Charizard's advantage which was toughness while Ash didn't make use of Greninja's speed.
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>>27952103
"No discussion" means some nigger is just going to make a new thread when this one is at page 3 and change it back or to something else or whatever.
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>>27952106
Dawn and Serena are likely both lesbians/bi-sexual. May is the most straight girl of the 3 but she wouldn't mind joining in.
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What's wrong with Alan's key stone?
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>after the TF arc we get to see Alan challenge the E4 but the only matches shown are the siebold rematch and then him getting swept by diantha
>skip to Serena meeting up with yashio again
>she agrees to go with her for a year of training
>Clemont decides to go back to attending his gym and Bonnie just goes back to her normal life
>ash decides he's going to stay in Kalos to train with not only greninja but a few other oakmons
>the group promises to reunite in a year or some other set time
>and so the Kalos anime ends with each if them going they're seperate ways
>some time later the sun/moon anime is finally revealed and ash is no longer the protag
>skip a little farther than that and it's revealed that the 20th movie will be the Kalos group's reunion after a time skip
>the movie starts with an older ash winning the Kalos league finals and continues with the E4 challenge
>During the sun/moon anime we get hints to what ash has been up to from other past characters that are visiting alola
>yfw this was based directors plan all along
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>>27951940
This, only with long hair does she looking better than Dawn but that's all she has. Dawn is better overall.
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>>27952122
why do you care
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>>27952102
What will they do for a whole hour then?Gonna be alot of filler episodes after that.
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Dear Serena, here is your mon. Pikachu, here is your mother.
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>>27952124
>shit art
I bet you like shadman
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>>27952179
Goodbyes will take an episode and then maybe Ash will get some last major battles with Alan, Diantha or someone else.
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>>27952150
Fueled by that red energy sent into bluni
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>>27951153
So...did Ash lose the League again? Is this why everyone is bitching so much?

I mean...did you expect anything less?
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>>27952150
It does look weird!It shouldn't be red like that.
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I'm the Messenger of /padt/
Listen to my recitation
The final battle is approaching
Soon our enemies will be vanquished
and our Cumliphate will send this general into a new golden era of reason and skepticism

This is an invitation to all infidels, join us. You'll have the opportunity to join us in glory and have your past sins forgiven.

But...if you do not...
you'll drown in your own despair and suffer the rest of your lives
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>>27952124
>Dawn and Serena are likely both lesbians/bi-sexual.
>>>/u/
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>>27952209
>XD i toally dont know th results guys what happened why r u mad

kill yourself my man :) your shitposting needs a lot of work
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>>27952170
Because I remember these retarded "thread wars" from before and how shitposters latched on to them and started spamming the entire catalog with duplicates.

I'm perfectly okay with the current pasta, for the record. I just want a fucking consensus on it.
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>>27952235
then learn to read passed shitposts
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>>27952179
The hour special is most likely going to be the Team Flare finale.
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>>27952107
I am incredibly turned on by the threesome ship of Ash/Dawn/Serena. It works on so many levels because Dawn is so lesbian and Serena would get a crush on her for being a female Ash. And they both work well with Ash themselves.
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>>27952235
I'm fine with it. I'd be way more cynical if it were up to me.
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>>27952256
Ok, fuck it. I'm going to take from all this that the consensus is "keep it the way it is in this thread" then.
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Will Pickachu ever have a child
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Anyone knows the rating of the last episode?

>Crucifying Ash.
Okay, I think they are going a bit too far.
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Was Amour all for naught?
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>>27952277
I think it's fine the way it is now,that new trailer with Perfect/Complete Zygarde in it makes this Arc look promising.
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>>27952284
>muh ratings
What do you think you'd learn from those?
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>>27952284
I hope they're shit and keep plummeting until they're in the 0s.
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>>27952288
XY was for nothing.
Based Director my balls. The Gook can choke on a shrimp.
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>>27952283
You mean he doesn't slay pokepussy in every region?
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>>27951153
it's punishment for Ash and his pokemon for losing the league. Glad Ash didn't bring his reserves.
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>>27952303
I want the staff getting hurt in some way. Since I can't disembowel them with a rusty sardine can.
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>>27952235
the copypasta is fine. we need it to stick for future threads.
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>Pikachu
>Rowlet
>Popplio
>Litten
>Pikipek
>Crabrawler(?)

Man Ash's SM team is shaping up to be a bore. Here's hoping he rotates like in BW.
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>>27952235
Aren't half of you epeople dropping the anime anyway, what do you care what the op reads? Matter of fact why does anyone care I literally just click the bottom button when I get here.

We will vote this in a week or two when you people finally leave for good not in the middle of what seems a raid instead of just banter.
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>>27952283
bros before hoes man
But his mommy will find a cute female pikachu to empty his pikaballs
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>>27952262
This is what could happen for the end of XYZ and Sun/Moon. That way both Amourfags and Pearlfags are happy.
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>>27952306
This.
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im honestly hoping the TRio will play a big part in this. They help save Ash just to capture Pikachu, only to end up helping ash and his friends stop Flare
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>>27951153
>Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.
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>>27952302

I'd prefer a "We'll see" for >Will Serena win da Ash or something more neutral, but other than that I like the new OP.

Mostly because even after last episode's shitfest, XY/XYZ is a fun ride and a good show.
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>>27952339

Protip: Literally NOBODY is dropping the anime. Hell, this controversy of Ash losing has made the anime more popular than ever.
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>>27952358
>Having hope XYZ will not be utter shit.
Don't hurt yourself man.
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>>27952339
Pretty sure that was the reasoning behind "just keep it as is" in the first place. But yeah, let's just keep it the way it is now, it's neutral enough and clearly not intended to annoy anyone
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>>27952358
Serena won't rescuing Ash given she doesn't even see him get caught.
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>>27952230
I don't watch the Anime. All I know is Serena likes Ash. Ash is battling in the Kalos League, and he actually has a pretty good team this time around.

Is there a link to the most recent episode? The one that pissed everyone off?
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Next female companion should have Alola Pika
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>>27952346
Implying Pikachu isn't attracted to Ash
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>>27952384
It's in the OP goddammit.
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>>27952369

Do you HONESTLY think amourfags will be please with "we'll see"? No, they will spam every. single. thread. about changing the copypasta.

"Never give up until the very end." is literally best case scenario. It pleases the amourfags and is just neutral enough to be neutral to the neutral and amour haters.
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>>27952369
>I'd prefer a "We'll see" for >Will Serena win da Ash or something more neutral
Spoiler: Serena won't win da Ash and she'll get shipped off to Yashio without being able to confess. Better accept it now than ending up assraped again.
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>>27952390
ants
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>>27952399
What's the episode's name? All I see is "next week's episode."
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>>27952382
Werent you leaving for good unnecessary spoilers kun? Don't you have a sub reddit to moderate unironically?
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>>27952150
It's always been pinkish-purple, hasn't it? I checked the one from the first mega special and it's pink purple mix too. We're just seeing it from the side.
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>>27952390
But they aren't gay
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>>27952384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88ZXm1uxGQ

"Kalos League Victory,Ash's Ultimate Match!"
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>>27952390
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>>27952425
Thank you. I'll return in a few after viewing it.
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>>27952374
>Being this delusional.
I'm dropping it. And I have followed it since the beginning. It's shit. It's irredeemable. It's over.
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>>27952412
Exactly, if Serena were to confess it put the writers in a situation they aren't comfortable with. They couldn't let him win a league, they won't give him an official girlfriend .
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>>27952445
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Also don't forget to filter us, I mean unless you have nothing better to do with your own time.
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>>27952418
XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536
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Can't we meme some huge devastating earthquake hitting Japan, or a spree killer slashing the anime staff?
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>>27952425
>Kalos league victory
Why would they name it that if Ash loses?
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Kind of hope Ash keeps Greninja and explores his Z Move shit more. A team I'm hoping for from good ol' Ashy Boy would be something like

>Pikachu
>Greninja
>Rowlet
>Litten
>Pikipek
>Crabrawler
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Mommy Serena, open this shit for me please.
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>>27952374
You don't seriously believe that, right?
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>>27952492
Troll writers
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>>27952390
NOT AN ANT
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>>27952425
>streaming
Please leave
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>>27952492
Because they are horrible people. Also, they love Gary Stu and Memezard.
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>>27952408
>amourfags
It's shitposters falseflagging, genius
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>>27952493
Sounds about right, they could just make Greninja job to unevolved Alola shitmons Pikachu-style after the latest episode anyway.
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>>27952390
Kek,even the zoom in isn't close enough.
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So, the new trolling craze is whiteknighting the Pokeani staff?
Predictable.
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>>27952490
All of Japan doesn't have to suffer, I'm still waiting for another season of an anime adaptation for OPM. But TvTokyo and Toei should get anthrax bombs on their buildings.
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>>27952559
>everybody that claims to not hate the anime now is a troll
Why are you even here?
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>>27952569
Yes, something like the German Wings guys. A lonely, crazed Nip, who has been suffering Japan shit society for years and Ash's defeat against the blandest Mary Sue ever was the last drop that filled the cup of his rage. He goes after the responsible, killing one after the other with brutal precision.
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>>27952384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktb6C_tpx0w

Better looking one
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>>27952542
...so basically, amourfags, right? :^)
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>>27952592
My anger is still burning. I need to vent.
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>>27952618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j058sow3qfU

Best looking one
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>Alain joins Flare
>Alain and Ash find themselves in the stadium once more
>Megazard vs Ash Greninja
>Alain isn't thinking of Manon
>Ash is thinking of all the friends he's made along the way
>All of Kalos/the world is watching
>Ash wins
>People of Kalos recognize Ash as the hero who beat the champion
The writers think this will make up for Ash losing the league
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>>27952617
You mean, Sam Hyde?
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>>27952653

But wait, if you beat the Champion, doesn't that mean you also win the trophy?

This is why Ash literally can't beat Alain in an official match. He might beat him in the Flare arc, but NOT with any sort of crowd watching.
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>>27952618
Alain won nicely
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What are the chances Alan dies by sacrificing himself? Similar to how Hunter J died in DP.
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>>27952653
Too late. Also, the writers are too busy hugging their Alain fuckpillows to care about the fans.
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>>27952672
>But wait, if you beat the Champion, doesn't that mean you also win the trophy?
No, the Kalos League is like a tournament, Ash can beat Alain all he wants from here on out, but Alain will always be the champion of that particular tournament
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>>27952686
He is a Gary Stu, he will hog all the attention. And everybody will love him for no good reason.
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>>27952542
I'm convinced most of the Amourfags here that were defending Amour with the likes of "not watching the show", "XY59 shows Serena is super special to Serena", "Amour has progressed", etc were just shitposters. Because there's a bunch of talk about Amour not getting resolved now and you don't see any people defending Amour.

Or did they all get butt devastated because their autistic fantasies are probably going to be wrong causing them to leave?
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>>27952660
Satoshi Hyde.
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>>27952643
I was mad about it for 2 days but now.I never should have thought Ash stood a chance lol.
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>>27952643
I remember just stopping the video the moment Greninja fainted. I haven't seen the rest of the episode and deleted it from my HDD.

I'm still buttflustered.
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>>27952672
Alan is the league champion, not THE Regional Champion. That's Diantha.

And the league title works like this: if the Cavs first game of the season is against the Bulls, and they lose, that doesn't mean the Bulls is the new NBA champion.
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>>27952723

I don't know what's sadder: People spending 18 hours a day trolling /padt/ about amour or people who actually BELIEVE in amour even though Ash and Serena are nothing more than two drawn characters colored in, animated, and voiced by female Japanese voice actresses for the sole purpose of entertaining viewers in a children's television show.

ASH AND SERENA ARE NOT REAL.
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>>27952727
The Legend continues. He can't keep getting away with it.
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>>27952425
>>27952399
>>27952230

Just finished watching it. Oh my lord this is way too much. You mean to tell me he's come all this way only to lose on the last battle? To a CHARIZARD!? A fire/flying type!?

Now Ash will get to win the little Alola thing they do, yet STILL never actually win a match!

I don't know. Ash has done so many things, and grown so much, he's a master in my mind.

Nice try Ash. Better luck another time.
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>>27952723
If these threads have taught me anything, it's that all kinds of really spergy posting like that that makes a group of people look like enormous faggots as a whole is almost guaranteed to be falseflagging shitposters.
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>>27951887
>Alain is the Yuya of the Pokemon Dimension
>Manon is the Yuzu

Where is the Hitotsu nii pic with Alain?
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I'm not used to sifting through moon runes to find what I'm looking for, and maybe I just missed it in the OP, but;

Can someone go ahead and tell me whether or not an English Sub currently exists for Movie 19?
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>>27952864
>Caring about Pokemon.
You should watch better things.
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>>27952864
>English Sub
HA good luck with that. Even Adamant doesn't care 100% about XYZ now. Doubt he will translate the shitty movie
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Is this general always this autistic?
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>>27952843
>You mean to tell me he's come all this way only to lose on the last battle? To a CHARIZARD!? A fire/flying type!?
>Fire/Flying
Have you been living under a rock?
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>>27952850
ARAWARERO, EKKUZU RIZARDO MEGA DORAGON

BURN, DORAGON KUROU!
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>>27952680
>dealwithitwebm.jpg
>.jpg
That's not even a webm, Anon.
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>>27952896
Yeah actually. Before the last episode everything was delusion and autism. Now its just autism
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>>27952723
It's a subplot, and it's obviously going SOMEWHERE. Saying it's "not getting resolved" or "probably just going to get dropped" or whatever stale's random pasta is about this month is just shitposting. Saying it's "obviously going to end THIS way" is stupid and also probably shitposting.

Enjoying the ride and seeing where it's going is the correct action.
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>>27952864
No. Wait until December-ish and the home release.
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>>27952974

>Enjoying the ride and seeing where it's going is the correct action.

Can't wait for this TF arc to play out. Since this is actually the climax, I hope it delivers. The guy who handled the Shota battle is covering this arc I hope.
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>>27953028
>guy
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>>27952899
Oh well excuse me, a Fire/Dragon type. He still slammed that electric attack and water attack while he was fire/flying prior to mega evolve. It should had brutalized him prior.
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>>27953028
>The guy who handled the Shota battle is covering this arc I hope.
2 KO moves and draws everywhere.
HOW EXCITING
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>>27952421
>Color is exactly the same in all other versions
>Suddenly different jusy this one time

Don't you fucking give me hope like that.

Find a screenshot of the keystone from an older episode while Charizard is already mega, please. Or hell, any mega. Maybe that's just how they look while they're active?
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>>27951153
I can't believe i came back to watch the League since Day 1. And this is how it ends? BULLSHIT
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>>27953076
it's strange how they hyped up this huge shuriken, and it literally doesn't do anything to zard x.
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I bet this shit was stronger than the red shuriken. I mean it fucking killed a grass type
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>>27953076
>MUH BASED DIRECTOR.
I hope the Gook dies.
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Remember how hype we were when this arc happened?
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>>27951153
>>27953076

If there's one thing I hope to get out of this shitshow is Greninja mastering its powers. We thought the synchro form was it but then it went even further beyond twice in the league, to no effect sadly. It should at least master the giga breaker hyper destructo shuriken.
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>>27953110
The final water shurinken was a mistake. Ash should have focused on Greninja's speed and Aerial Ace with some Cuts here and there. Using water shurinken as defense was good, but not when you can't do shit after throwing it.
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>>27953109
I just want to know what the two different versions of the scene were for. Did Black Splotch Greninja beat Megazard?
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How do you deal with the rage, anon? I was short of getting into a fight with my family. Of course, it was over some minor thing, but I have so much hatred inside.
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>>27953132
It was all lies, deceit, manipulation.

Sounds like a New Order album.
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>>27952505
Mommy's busy right now, Pikachu.
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>>27953162
I think you may have issues.
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>>27953162
I just drank my anger away but to be honest I'm still kind of salty about it.
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>>27953028
XY&Z39:
>Animation Director 小山知洋 (Tomohiro Koyama)
>Animation Director 青木一紀 (Kazunori Aoki)
>Animation Director 中村路之将 (Michinosuke Nakamura)
>Animation Director 内田裕 (Hiroshi Uchida)
>Animation Director 篠原隆 (Takashi Shinohara)
>Episode Director 吉村文宏 (Fumihiro Yoshimura)
>Screenplay 冨岡淳広 (Atsuhiro Tomioka)
>Storyboard 尼野浩正 (Hiromasa Amano)

XY&Z40:
>Animation Director 三股浩史 (Hiroshi Mimata)
>Animation Director 伊藤悠太 (Yuta Ito)
>Animation Director 板倉健 (Ken Itakura)
>Episode Director 佐々木勅嘉 (Tadayoshi Sasaki)
>Screenplay 冨岡淳広 (Atsuhiro Tomioka)
>Storyboard 高橋知也 (Tomoya Takahashi)

XY&Z41:
>Animation Director 瀬谷新二 (Shinji Seya)
>Animation Director 上杉遵史 (Junji Uesugi)
>Episode Director 前園文夫 (Fumio Maezono)
>Screenplay 冨岡淳広 (Atsuhiro Tomioka)
>Storyboard 志村錠児 (Jōji Shimura)
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>>27953206
It's horrible. I'm trying everything I can to forget, but I can't.
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>>27953162
By having patience and empathy. I've been called a loser, piece of shit by my father plenty of times, but at the end of the day we still eat out and talk like father and son.
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>>27953162
I just sit in my chair hoping that the executive who decided upon this dies or gets fired. Not much else to do since expressing my anger at anything else won't do any good.
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>>27952505
what did i tell you about saying bad words?
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>>27953109
Unless there is some sort of explanation to Charizard tanking that attack. It's just plot armored shit writing. It would be more believable if Charizard looked increadibly wounded from it.
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>>27953211
>Tomioka's writing the next three episodes

Well, at least we know they'll be good unlike the shit we just saw. It won't salvage this mess, but it can soften the blow, I suppose.
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>>27952974
But keeping in mind this is POKEMON, that doesn't like to take wish and stick with their comfort zone in the end, what could you possibly expect outside a lame handshake?
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>>27953273
Tomioka's work on the Goku Black arc in Dragonball Super is fantastic, so I expect the same here. Good thing is he wrote all those Trunks/Mai moments, so we'll likely get some Amour.
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>>27953211
So, this Tomioka guy is the Alain fanboy?
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>>27953275
The entire subplot has been so far outside Pokemon's usual comfort zone from day one and just kept shitting on the entire idea of that zone it's ridiculous to go "muh status quo comfort zone" in this instance. The series has never done anything remotely like this before.

Enjoy the ride, dude.
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I have discovered that listening to the poetry of Francis Dec relaxes me, you should try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4mb6gzu60U
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>>27953290
Depends on what you mean by that. He's written most Alan episodes to date, but he didn't write any of the league episodes outside of XY&Z36
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Will we get action waifu next week?
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>>27953290
Well, to give some info on what he's done: He wrote the mega evolution specials, yes. But, he's also the guy who wrote the entire ash/paul league battle, the olympia battle, and the only arc of yugioh 5ds that arguably surpasses that original author's work.
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>>27953290
Tomioka was the main writer of the DP series, as well as May's arc in AG. He's easily the best writer of the show.
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People seriously need to watch this episode in order to understand why Alain won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMyUJBON8Yc
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>>27953351
>>27953372
So, i was right, he is the one who owns the Alain fuckpillow. Hope he dies a painful death. Hope he pukes his guts out.
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>>27953393
You need to understand Ash vs Diantha to understand why people thought Ash would use his Shonen move to win, retard.

It's so grand that people suspect Alain siphoning energy from his wristband to win
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Post grumpy and/or pouty Serena.
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>>27953393
We saw it you dickhead. Killing a bunch of Ayaka-tier shitters isn't an achievement.

Greninja matched Diantha's Gardevoir and only lost because its form was imperfect. A perfect form Ash-Greninja going even further beyond was more than enough. It was shit writing.
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>>27953404
>Owns the Alan fuckpillow
Literally what. He wrote the specials yeah, but he didn't write the league fight. That was written by the guy who wrote the malamar eps.
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>>27953404
Cringe.
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>>27953430
>mfw when people think the league was the main focus of the climax
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Can we agree Alain only won because the staff loves to milk Magalizard's dick?
Alain is the worst thing that happened to the show. i suspect he is actually a self insert or some shit like that. XYZ has become the wish fulfillment fantasy of some random nip.
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>>27953372
Wait, what arc of 5D's did he write?
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What would Serena do if she lost the ashb owl
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>>27953495
Ironic considering the same assumption could be applied to the people infuriated over the match and their obsession with Ash,
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>>27953393
>streaming
Summer pls go
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>>27953393
And you seriously need to watch the Episode on Siebold's megablastoise fucking Alain's ass to know that Alan should have lost to Ash's Champion killing Greninja.
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>>27953495

Stop being such a drama queen. There is nothing wrong with Alain outside of this one shitty finale, and Alain is not even the problem. It's clear that no matter what happened, even when Ash clearly won the fight in front of our eyes, Ash's Pokemon would fall over in the end because fuck you.

Alain is a fine character.
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>>27953460
That would be Shinzo Fujita, right?
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>people jacking off when Ash is the super special one
>someone else becomes super special and they all cry
At least have some self-awareness of what you're doing. There's a reason why a lot of people hate any character that becomes super special.
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>>27953508
Love him unconditionally.
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>>27953507
Fortune Cup. He apparently left after it was done.
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If this serves as a consolation. We will see Japan dying off for good.
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So what the hell is happening after the Flare arc?
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>>27953525
Fujita wrote the final, yes.

Didn't he write the Viola fight too? That was good.
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>>27953537
She isn't a cuckquean, anon
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>Ash is not naked

YOU HAD ONE JOB
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>>27953412

And you need to understand Alain is Ash's strongest rival so far, he's power is beyond elite 4 levels. He may be strongest than the champion considering how he beat the pokemon that almost beat the current champion


>>>27953438
>We saw it you dickhead. Killing a bunch of Ayaka-tier shitters isn't an achievement.

Ash has so far beaten 4 megas and not using just one pokemon.
Alain has beaten up dozens
Also megas are no joke, particularly in the anime. Even more he beat up 10 consecutive megas with little to no time between, some with clear type disadvantage or abilities that render his attacks null
>Also
You pair of fags are forgetting the last part Marron being his inspiration.
Alain fought in the league to protect her, Ash just for fun


I seriously recommend you seeing again all mega specials and all the xy episodes to see
the clear differences between Ash and Alain


>>27953522
That episode happen BEFORE this episode. Even Alain acknowledges his defeat to Malva.
And says he has become stronger
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>>27953547
S&M
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>>27953547
Ash vs Elite 4 then Diantha.
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>>27953524
>I love eating shit. Please, shit directly into my mouth.
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>>27953547
Chances are we'll fin out when the next titles get revealed.
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>>27953550

Viola is still one of my top gyms in the series. Really set a standard that most of XY failed to live up to.

Don't know how he fucked up the finale so bad.
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Why isn't Greninja trapped with Ash and the rest of his pokemon
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>>27953559
>strongest than the champion because I saw how good ONE of his pokemon was

lol wow
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>>27953289
>Dragon ball Super
>Good
>Black arc
>Good
Fucking kill yourself that shit is fanfic tier even worse than Pokemon
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>>27953522
I know you guys are upset but at least stay objective. Comparing start of series to near end of series and disregarding any progress made by characters in-between is just silly. That's like comparing Froakie to Greninja
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>>27953598
this is how it will be in /padt/ for at least two months
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Are you idiots actually fanboying over Alan or you are just trolling Ashfags?
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>>27953588
Not that guy but people's argument was

Ashninja almost beating Diantha with imperfect form
Alan beating Ashninja in complete form

It was always about their one ace fighting against another ace instead of about being their whole team.
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WHAT IS /PADT/
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wife
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Why the fuck do people ship Alan and Manon if she's like 10 years younger than him?
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>>27953640
A miserable pile of butthurt
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>>27953559
Beating a thousand Rattata is not as impressive as beating one Dragonite. It's irrelevant.
Megas are not precluded from being a joke, see Ayaka's Absol. You are just ignoring this obvious fact and regurgitating your point. In fact, the megas he beat were pretty much all at a disadvantage except Venusaur, Houndoom and an apparently physical Alakazam.

>Manon being his inspiration
Good to see you've abandoned the Pokemon power level argument that you were clearly losing.
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>>27953588
Considering how were you bragging just about how semi perfect ash greninja almost defeated this particular pokemon and could have defeated it had he perfected his form.
Yes, my argument is valid because you said
Ash = Diantha
Ash > Alain
hence
Diantha > Alain

Do you even logic?
>>27953631
I just support the best trainer
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>>27953662
Manon is 7, Alan is 14.
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>>27953659
Good thing she has no husband
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What is it, Rowlet? Lyssandre fucked it up again?
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>>27953637
>Alain is Ash's strongest rival so far, he's power is beyond elite 4 levels. He may be strongest than the champion

I don't care about what you're talking about. His post/your post is retarded and I'm pointing it out as such.
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>>27953640

BABY DON'T HURT ME

DON'T HURT ME

NO MORE
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>>27953659
Who is the lucky guy Serena, Tierno? Oh well am going back to kanto with my girlfriend. Bye!
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>>27953690
Alan is at least 18 though given as they refer to him as 'seinen'.
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>>27953662
Because it's cute as fuck
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>>27953675
>all because of one pokemon

damn youre a retard
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I have a serious question for all of you. After seeing Ash lost this league, how come you guys would still watch the series?

Were some of you actually were expecting him to win?
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>>27953576
Brilliant and insightful retort. Totally not a kneejerking drama queen.

>>27953675
The entire fucking point is Alain's victory against Ash was wrong. You are trying to disprove this by comparing feats PRIOR to the battle, which is fine, but now you're saying the battle justifies itself, which is circular logic.
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>>27953702
kek
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>>27953705
"Seinen" means basically the same as "young adult" does in English and can be used about boys down to age 14 or so.
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>>27953704
>>27953693
assholes
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>After months of development, Ash's loses to a literal mary sue.
>video shows how I feel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTFhwqx42Y
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>>27953697
And I'm pointing out your rebuttal to him is wrong if that's what you wanted to say. You were saying "because I saw how good ONE of his pokemon was" and capitalized ONE when the argument has always been about their one ace determining the trainer's strength and not as a complete trainer. I'm asking people to be objective.
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>>27953765
more like ashholes am I right
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>>27953674

>Beating a thousand Rattata is not as impressive as beating one Dragonite. It's irrelevant.

Nice false equivalence. Considering how many megas are stronger than the vast majority of pokemon (sauf many legendaries)


>>27953674
>Good to see you've abandoned the Pokemon power level argument that you were clearly losing

You didn't watch the end of the episode. They literally said mega evolution is beyond a change in the pokemon but also a change withIN the trainer.
The trainer's status also affect the power of the mega evolution.
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>>27953662
Alan fought for Loli Pussy and won. Its true love
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>>27953750
Because most people still left here DIDN'T start watching right before the league.

The Flare arc looks hype as fuck regardless how how awful the league ending was.
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>>27953776
>when the argument has always been about their one ace determining the trainer's strength and not as a complete trainer. I'm asking people to be objective.

this is how I know you're an autist and a retard
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>>27953780
>ash's hole
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>>27953750
I'm not watching the series. Fuck Pokemon.
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>>27953810
What, do you have a dick after all? Nice
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>>27953560
>>27953577
Isn't it a bit too early to start the S&M anime right after the Flare arc? Assuming Sep 15 is the finale, we still have 2 months until SuMo drops.

Are we really gonna have filler for the next 2 months?
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>>27953750
I'm watching for amour and team flare. IF the animation drops considerably after this, I'm out. If it remains to be hype as shit, I can honestly say I'm glad the pokemon anime became this good and not care about the results. I've always recognized the anime as a marketing gimmick so I don't care
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>>27953781

Nice denial. We know for a fact that there are jobber megas. Why do you refuse to address the point about Ayaka, who Ash's non-mega, regular ass mon beat effortlessly?
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>>27953784
>>27953731
She looks like a little boy though.
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>>27953801
That's not really an argument anymore so I guess the discussions over. Sorry that we didn't come to an understanding this time but when people are calmer, maybe we can talk about this again in a more civil manner.
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>>27953789
Found the battered wife.
>This time he won't punch me, he's change, for real!
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>>27953752
>You are trying to disprove this by comparing feats PRIOR to the battle


Arent you the guy that continues pushing the "Ash almost being Diantha hence he deserved to win"?

>feats PRIOR to the battle

If I throw a rock then times in a rock, and ten times it a row it falls. How do you expect me to react?
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>>27953765
What about Ash's hole?
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>>27953812

>I'm not watching the series.
>I'll instead post in /padt/ 18 hours a day about how much I hate the series.
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>>27953290
He's also a massive Dawnfag.
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>>27953836
Sun/Moon will start in November, yes. We have literally no idea what's going to come between the Flare arc and that.
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Games: Pokemon
Anime: Digimon seasons 1 and 3
You have to have some sort of tolerance for obvious marketing choices and a story that's not intended to have a middle and end of any sort.
I don't think there's anything wrong with pokemon anime fans, they didn't fail to grow up, they just maintained a tolerance for things that don't make sense, and a character trapped in mascot mode.

If you're really dropping the pokemon anime, I'd suggest any other mons series really, most of the rest actually have a plot simply because they weren't lucky enough to amass so much popularity
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>>27953852
maybe you can stop being a newfag retard, but I don't anticipate it to be quite honest senpai

keep pasting your links though, I'm sure you'll convince some hopeless idiots
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>>27953821
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>>27952157
I'm alright with this.
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>>27953841
>Nice denial. We know for a fact that there are jobber megas.
As I said megas are among the most powerful pokemon defeating them it's quite a feat

And we know many aren't not.

>Why do you refuse to address the point about Ayaka, who Ash's non-mega, regular ass mon beat effortlessly?
>pokemon can't get stronger

Geez
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Mommy Manon, I've just killed a frog.
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>>27953534
it's almost like one has been the MC for 20 years without being special while the other one is a gary stu with an immortal charizard!
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>>27953885
Which series would you suggest?
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>>27953856
Fuck I hate being dyslexic
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>Alan's Megazard X survived because is has Thick Fat instead of Tough Claws
fuck
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Maybe Lysson did this, because Satoshi was the heroe of Kalos. This is like representation of: "Hope has died."
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Why can't they do this kind of faints? I don't like the swirle eyes
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>>27953856
I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.

Again, the argument is about the battle being bullshit based on their power levels, and you determine that based on their respective prior feats. Using the result of the battle is circular logic as that's what's being disputed in the first place.
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>>27953958
Shit. They captured all of Ash's strong pokemon and Noivern.
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>>27953958
>Rubbing the wound with salt.
Fucking pricks.
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>>27953750
The league was shit, no denying, but there was always the possibility of it going that way just because they put literally all the focus on the TF arc happening right afterwards instead of on the league itself. So in reality the league this time was only ever just a prelude to the TF climax.

Doesn't make Ash's loss hurt any less, but I at least expected the worst, and after having a couple of days to get over it, I'm still going to watch the TF arc because they've been building up to it for ages and I've waited this long for Lysandre to finally lose his shit and destroy Kalos and it looks cool.

Whether I'll stick around for Sun and Moon remains to be seen. They'll have to make an extremely good impression in the premiere episodes to get me to even consider investing another couple of years into the anime at this point, because it's clear that they are still sticking to the same old formula despite giving the series a shiny new coat of paint.
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>>27953972
naybe you can eat your shit

i mean literally put you rginers down the toilet hole
put your ginfgers in

and eat your sht by scooping it up
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>>27953855
So what are you, who's sitting in a general for a series you've dropped just to tell everyone they're faggots for watching it over and over and over?
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>>27953958
why isn't memefrog lined up with them? is he about to get dissected?
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>>27953325
Let me ask this then, what do you expect out of Amour by the end then?
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>>27954004
sgut u\ uy drybjg
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>>27953858
Tha kanto savage ain't royalty, sugar tits.
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>>27953903

A feat that clearly doesn't require Greninja's power level, as even Hawlucha did it, and quite effortlessly. Zard had the overwhelming advantage in most of the fights, and we know for a FACT he was healing between battles via berries.

The only thing that really matters is the strongest opponent he fought, and that was Malva. Malva is not as strong as Diantha. Greninja matched Diantha with an imperfect form. Greninja went even further beyond perfect form against Alain.

The power level was clearly there. There was no massive gap as you're so desperately implying. It was just shit writing.
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You Ashfaggots are absolutely hilarious, holy shit.
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>>27951153
You beat my Darkrai and a Latios with a fucking Pikachu and you can't even beat an Overrated Charizard with your Mutant Frog? You deserve to die Satoshi Kun
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>>27953962
>you determine that based on their respective prior feats


If I throw ten rocks in a row, and all the rocks fall. What can I induce?

Or in other words
If I see a boxer winning ten matches in a row ending in KO. What's the possible outcome of his next match?

Apply this to Alain

> circular logic

Well done!
You have discovered the Munchhausen trilemma!
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>>27954054
nothing is happening yet you do posts like this
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>>27954040
A tease for amourshippers to insinuate as an amourend

if you think that's overboard you're slightly delusional

it's only slightly though so be glad
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>>27954040
I don't expect anything. As I said I'm sitting here enjoying the ride instead of acting like a smug faggot and pretending I know in advance what's going to happen.
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>>27954070

This is the most pitiful argument yet.

How many fights did Ash win in a row in XY? I guess it made no sense for him to ever lose again! And hell, he lost every match against Paul in DP, I guess he should have lost the last one! Because that's exactly how these stories work.

You're just grasping now.
>>
Are TV Tokyo the biggest liars in the whole Anime industry??
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>>27954045
eat my shit lol
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>>27954054
Fag
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>>27954114
I guess they tried to hype as much as they could the sinking ship of a show.
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>>27954050
>we know for a FACT he was healing between battles via berries.


Because berries are surely better than a pokemon center in the anime. That's why trainers in general heal their pokemon with berries.

>Greninja matched Diantha with an imperfect form.

And yet he lost.

>Greninja went even further beyond perfect form against Alain.

And yet he lost


Your whole argument is "Ash almost beat the champion, hence he deserved to win"

>>27954102
>How many fights did Ash win in a row in XY? I guess it made no sense for him to ever lose again

That's one of the reasons you expected him to win. Because he won so much you didn't expect to lose at the end.

Nigga please you're using my argument
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>>27954054
queer :^)
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>>27952421
>>27953072

Please anons, someone verify this. I'm grasping at this straw so fucking hard my hand hurts.
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>>27953962
Not him but mind if I have a discussion with you as well?

If we're using previous feats, Alan before the crazy training also took on a champion's attacks and was fine. He would have lost eventually against Steven at that point but it's a good way to place what his starting point was. He then went on to train even more. I mean, we saw him take Zygarde's ES and lands wrath and it was still flying ready to fight. It even knocked down Zygarde while in base form so it's tough and has power. Not as fast as Greninja though.

The one thing we do know about Alan's Charizard is that it's extremely tough and Alan just used it the best he could. By the way, my analysis of the battle was this >>27952116

It was Alan deciding to take the attack and simultaneously hit with his own that won him the match.
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>>27954158
It was pink purple against Siebold too before the whole Puni mess started. Sorry to say it but I don't think it's anything special.
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How would you write SMS Ash without downgrading him like in BW?
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>>27954152
No you mouthbreather, I execpted him to win because he transcended the thing that was making him lose.

>Greninja went even further beyond perfect form against Alain, and yet he lost
There's that circular logic again. You clearly have no fucking idea how basic writing works.
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>>27954184
Just make him go back to DP Ash. Both Competent and with an actual Personality fun to watch
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>>27954211
basically this desu

don't try to pretend like you were on the writers' side the whole time and you were above us

it's very tryhard
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>>27954184
Ash and Pikachu go to relax and not exert effort, save Pilachu for real fights
>>
Pokemon was fading into irrelevance, and they injected new life and interest doing things differently but at the climax, the most important part, they reverted with glee to the old shit we were tired of.
BRAVO.
R
A
V
O

Japs love suicide after all.
>>
I stopped watching in the middle of Johto but tonight I decided to check out the first few episodes of XY. My question is when did the anime get good? Because I'm actually enjoying this
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>>27954184
Make him like AG/DP Ash, hotblooded and a bit arrogant because of his skill, but generally calm enough to act as a solid leader and mentor to whatever companion he has
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>>27954163

The champion's attacks were all resisted though. Meanwhile the champion took on all of Alain's strongest super effective moves unscathed. The gap was widened even more when we saw their performance against primals.

Greninja resisted all that shit against Sceptile.

The bulk argument doens't work either as far as I'm concerned.
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>>27954211
>>27954211

>I execpted him to win because he transcended the thing that was making him lose.

Citation needed


Not because X happens then Y happens
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>>27954184
Just keep on trucking. AG Ash was a continuation of Johto Ash. DP Ash was a continuation of AG Ash. XY Ash was a continuation of DP Ash.

SM Ash should be a continuation of XY Ash.
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>>27951417
>Graninja wants to become stronger
>when he was a Froakie he was drawn to ash because he thought he would be the trainer who would bring out his potential
>Alan saves ash and his team
>Graninja is drawn to him and hands him the pokeball because he's a tougher Trainer than ash
>Alan accepts graninja and parts ways with ash
>Ash goes off sad into the sunset and cries
>Alan now has a OP zard and a OP frog
>Frog becomes stronger than ever before
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>>27954265

It works you're just so blinded by rage and frustration you cant grasp things anymore
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>>27954261
They blew it. XY was such an improvement but the writers decided to kill it.,
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>>27953750
I don't anymore. I came back to the anime in 2014 and kept watching because I thought maybe this time he could win the league (not the E4, just the league) because he really seemed competent. Then we started getting more and more shit that pointed to that, until last Thursday happened. I won't bother to watch anymore, I'll keep up with what's happening with the TF arc by reading these threads on episode/Pokenchi days and after the arc is over, I will leave the anime for good, hoping this shit will never get good ratings again.
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Huh, so Alan just stands there and watches as Ash gets taken away?

How mad is Serena gonna be
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>>27954261
>My question is when did the anime get good?
XY.
How far in are you? You're watching the sub, right?
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>>27954301

It works when you're blinded by bias and pompousness.
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>>27954284
XY Ash barely acts like DP Ash though. He has none of the calmness displayed by Ash in DP and he gets overly excited at every little thing. He's more like BW Ash if they stripped him of his incompetence.
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>>27953928
Adventure and Tamers, maybe?
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>>27954371
I like that, though. He has more personality AND more competence.
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>>27954261
The anime was pretty good from late AG through the end of DP. It fell to shit in BW and then picked itself up again with XY and then completely crashed and burned with XY&Z 38.
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Why didn't Tobias fall in love with Ash like Alan did?
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>>27954368
Even if so, that doesn't stop it from being right

Do you know when something it's true? When it is true
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>>27954265
True but we gotta give credit to the Zygarde fight as well and how Sceptile may not be as strong as people think.

The argument that Greninja can take hits because it took Sceptile's attacks is a little hazy when we consider Shota's position in the powerlevel hierarchy. Not to belittle him but I don't think he's even close to E4 level so bulking his attacks should be easier.

The brutality and quality of the attacks Charizard took and survived was almost comedic. I mean, consider Zygarde's Dragon Pulse to Siebold's dragon pulse at start of series. It was a 3 headed dragon pulse to show how high its powerlevel was compared to mega Blastoise and Charizard just took land's wrath from Zygarde just fine.

So what I'm saying is, the battles aren't as simple as powerlevels but also factors in their particular strength. Greninja is fast and hits hard, Charizard is tough and hits hard. Greninja can tank attacks but not as well as Charizard based on previous showings. Hence, when the battle came to a simultaneous exchange instead of a hit and run fight, the tougher one wins.
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>>27954372
Isn't coming a new anime based on a popular mobile phone? It's not Yokai Watch, though.
I need to watch a shounen that doesn't treat its viewers as shit. Maybe Zenki.
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>>27954394
Eh, for me, he feels so much more one-note. DP Ash's behavior felt like the culmination of his prior adventures and he overall behaved like a more matured version of what came before and you could see it in how he carried himself through his various attempts to improve and how he responded to people like Paul. I don't get that with XY Ash and he comparatively just feels so empty to me.
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>>27954442
>Isn't coming a new anime based on a popular mobile phone?
Puzzle & Dragons?
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>>27952214
Nah, there is no despair and do you know why?

Starter Syndrome (as I call it)

In everybody's younger years, we had a starter and like everyone else, it was overpowered by the time of challenging the elite 4. For example, a level 70 Charizard and 30 and below for the rest.

In the anime and the specials, we only see Alan use Charizard against everybody. Until Episode 38, other than Metagross/Metang, nobody even knew that he had any other pokemon. And why do I say this?

Charizard's steamrolling in the league. In his battle against Louis, we see that Metagross lost, but Charizard steamrolled through everybody else without a hint of damage if not minimal.
As for Ash, he leveled everybody to the same amount because he trained everybody and we have proof of that. For Alan, he may or may not have trained his other mons, he could have gotten them from TF or through trade.

So, if I had to give it a number, I would say Ash's pokemon are around 50-60, with Pikachu maybe 60-70

For Alan, his mons matching Ash's with Charizard being 70-80

It wasnt that Ash-Greninja was too weak, it was because Charizard was too strong.

fin
(Then again I blame bad writing)
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>>27954413
Fro some weird reason in XY everyone is gay for Ash. This things never happened until BW. Ash didn't looked like he wanted to fuck Barry or Paul unlike Ash/Alan/Shota
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>>27954497
Besides Paul, pretty much everyone liked Ash in DP too.
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Alan winning is just mere shit writing. The writers want to pander to the Western fandom.
End of the discussion.
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>>27954497
In DP everyone were gay for Dawn instead.
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>>27954438

You basically just forfeited your argument. The whole point is disputing the result, if you're just going to claim it justifies itself, i.e. eat up whatever they shit down your throat, what's the point of debating it against dissenters? Meaningless argument.

>>27954271
>Ash loses every time because the form collapses
>Citation needed!

The citation is what happened right in front of your fucking face.
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>>27954522
Nobody in the west gives a shit about Alan. You think dub fans love Alan?
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>>27954442
Just check the new Digimon Arc-V or Time Bokan 24. The new Main girl looks cute
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>>27954497
DP was really heavy on the yuri subtext, while XY went for homo subtext instead.

Both are fine
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>>27954529
That makes sense though.
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>>27954413
Tobias is already in love with his Darkrai and at least 2 of the legendary birds
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>>27954546
Yatterman 2008 was such a shitty childhood memory-destroying show I have zero hopes Time Bokan 24 will watchable
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>>27954530
It justifies itself.
As I said something is true, because it's true. It's circular logic, yes. But does that stop it from being right? no
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>>27954546
That's Time Bokan? Looks fun. Thanks.
I was also getting into Buddyfight, it's silly, but at least hasn't sent me into a three days rage trip.
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Say whatever you want about Yokai Watch, but at least it won't stab you at the back and twist the knife.
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>>27954463
It also depends on the people he interacts with. Paul was an asshole, but with Alan it's a friendly rivalry. As for his companions, Ash is the one with more experience travelling and shit so he must remain positive and cheerful. Also, the romantic subplot, for shit and gigles they write him more dense.

For SM Mallow and Lillie seem like they could have an interesting relationship with Ash. Female brock would be the most mature lady who has travelled with him, and Lillie seems like a special snowflake that needs protection and also clashes with Ash's boner for battles. Of course all of this is speculation so far.
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>>27954592
Time Bokan 24 its coming in October so you'll have to wait. Other Shounen which was the Gem of Winter Season is Bubuki Buranki. It has the best CGI any Anime has ever had, semen demons, non stupid MC, Good and funny villains, and nice sidekicks. The second season its coming on October. Check it out
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>>27954669
Thanks, man. I really need to wash away this bad taste out of my mouth.
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>>27954591
Yes, you're right, it did have a shitty ending that made no sense. Congratulations.
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>>27954651
What's the engame in yokai watch? just collect monsters or is there also some sort of tournament?
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>>27954723
It does have sense. If you use circular logic
I mean, a truth is truth because it is truth right?
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>>27954666
Satan, I can see the merit in Ash acting as a cheerful companion to those around him and I guess I can see him acting more cheerfully overall after his performance in Sinnoh, but it very much irks me since he was still positive and yet also generally carried himself with greater composure for the duration of DP, even when dealing with characters of the day. As such, XY Ash feels like an irritating over exaggeration from my perspective. Not to say it's at all wrong for him to behave this way, but I personally don't like the change.
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>>27954739
Collect the Yokai causing trouble.
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>>27954666
>Mallow
Stop
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>>27954592
Watch the original Time Bokan series instead, fampai.
It's a classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy2p7vpKlFA&list=PLA4477F3E64A47296
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>>27954763

Bleach's ending is also the truth. That doesn't make it any less shit.
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>>27954802
>>27954828
Thank you, my Doppelganger friend.
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>>27954870
Sorry, fucked up the link on my first post.

Subs are unfortunately kinda absent, but [Surf] has subbed the first 3 episodes of the original Time Bokan and the first 17 episodes of Yatterman, and it's one of those shows that can be followed decently enough even without subs.
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>>27954770
Yeah, sometimes his cheerfulness gets you. I think it'd have been better if he had shown more sadness after the finals. Being positive after a defeat is okay but saying it doesn't hurt you is bs.
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Why did BW have so many tournament arcs?
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Well, XYZ fall from grace also helped me rediscover Western shows. There is some good stuff out there recently. It isn't all doom and gloom.
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Anyone want to even try to guess why Flare is stringing up Silver Medalist Ash?

I mean what's the fucking point in publicly demonstrating that you're stronger than the guy who didn't win?
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>>27955053
It doesn't matter.
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>>27955053
What is Clemont doing to Clembot exactly? The tower is still in up and Ash is battling Lysandre on top of it.
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>>27955053
Maybe they're interested in seeing what kind of influence Synchro energy would have on Z-2?
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>>27954828
What is the best opening and why is it the Yattodetaman one?
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>>27955011
>Western shows
Are you serious. Western shows are only comedy. Only serious one is Star wars Rebels and the most funny one is Gumball. Theres literally nothing worth to see
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>>27955053
Because he's still really strong and the synchro energy is still special? Or maybe to make a mockery of Kalos and show Team Flare's complete dominance.

I mean, their league champ gets revealed to be Team Flare and the innocent 2nd placer that Kalos cheered for gets crucified and shit.
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>>27955053
Why are you such an apologist for a shit ending?
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>>27955117
Not to mention if Malva reveals herself, that's a triple fuck you to Kalos.
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>>27955154
Doesn't Malva help the good guys in the end and its forgiven in the Games???
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>>27955115
At least nobody gets crucify.
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>>27951153
What battles are you expecting to see this time? Diantha vs Malva, Finals rematch, Alan/Ash vs Lyssandre, Serena vs one of those dykes?
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>>27955181
In the games she's not even revealed to have been Team Flare until after the team is kill
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>>27955206
The show is all about Special Snowflake Alain, anon.
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>>27955234
So can we expect the same to happen in the Anime? I mean after all no ones knows that too. Except for Alan
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What does Serena want?
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>>27955253
hold hands and hugs
but when puberty comes...
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new bread:

>>27955274

updated copypasta. please feel free to continue to use the current thread until it reaches the image limit or gets archived.
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>>27955252
In the anime she's an active part of Team Flare. In the games it's literally just some irrelevant lore tossed in long after the team is gone.
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>>27955253
She will fuck off just like Kenny did in DP
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>>27955311
>updated
Updated how?
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>>27955363

POKETV -> POKÉTV

:^)
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>>27955444
oh

Fuck, you scared me into thinking we were getting shitty thread wars again
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>yfw Korrina wins the Ashbowl by saving him
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>>27955053
Because the Graninja's power goes up as their bond gets stronger. There's no limit to his power. he seems to get stronger every battle.
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