Better or worse? also ITT we fix designs

>>27918546
>>27918573

He said fix, not make them shit

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>>27918546
Damnit. I like Crabrawler a lot but I think that something like this would be a liiiiiiiiittle bit better. The cartoony eyes don't ruin it but it could've been executed better.

Still almost guaranteed a slot on my team. Great mon conceptually.

>>27918546
Worse.

>>27918573
this is fucking great. looks simple but not too bland. or i just have a shit taste

>>27918546
Better, but when it comes to the original, I just don't like the colors. Hopefully the shiny looks better.

>>27918546
Why fix what isn't broken?

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>>27918546
save it from its misery

>>27918815
>implying it's not broken
He's going to be with its great stats and the fantastic coverage it get

>>27918837
You can't improve perfection

>>27918837
Just delete it.

Worse

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>>27918837
Not that hard, gamefreak

>>27919207
jesus fuck. why did you change the eyes?

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>>27918546

>>27919325
Nice

>>27918546
>wha did ya say about my wife?.jpg

>>27918573
Flatten out the hammer and this would be fucking flawless 10/10 would train

>>27918546
better

>>27919207
If you kept the eyes, it would've looked better.

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>>27918837

>>27918546
yeah i'm not a big fan of the eyes, they make it look like a Spongebob character

>>27918573
the fuck?

>>27918546
Holy shit that is fantastic

>>27918573
This is terrible, Garchomp would only look better if its eyes were on the hammer like an actual shark.

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>>27922545

>>27919325
Left is decent but the original is better, Right is a fucking disaster of a color scheme and you should be ashamed. Literally worse than shiny Hawlucha.

>>27922582
Pretty good, would look better if it had been designed around it in the first place.

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>>27918837
there, I only modified the bad things about it's design

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>>27918573
There's literally nothing wrong with garchomp but I'll humor you.
Excuse the shit quality, didn't feel like opening a real art program.

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>>27918546
>removes the random hair
>actually makes the eyes pop out like an actual crab
This is fucking fantastic.

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Any fix this shit?

>>27918546
So much better!
this one is so good, the original is porbably my 2nd least favourite after spikey turtle of this gen. but if it looked like this it would be up the top.

I dont know how a team of artists dont see what one person can...

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>>27924931
Just remove the stripes on its legs and make the shiny green.

>>27918573
>The MACH Pokemon
>The original facial structure
>people still think its only a land shark

It's also supposed to resemble how Fighter Jets sometimes have the shark face painted on the sides of the nose.

>>27924966
Maybe the team of artists wants to make their own spin on a creature's design instead of simply taking it and recoloring it like every other monster franchise does.

>>27918573
Hello Bogleech!

>>27924966
Because that team of artist clearly have better taste.

>>27924931
Heliolisk's design is actually 10/10 except for the zipper legs.

>>27918546
Better. The legs still need some fixing though.

>>27919648
This is the one bewear edit on this board that I actually like, good job!

>>27924931
I just with the official art had the frill up.

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This meme isn't as funny now that we literally got a Gen 6 Charizard (two of them), but the Garchomp redesign is still godlike.

>>27926097
Hitmonchan, is that you?

>>27926321
Jesus christ, how about no.

>>27926321
That looks so much better.

>>27926202
Golduck? What the fuck happened to me?

>>27919648
cute
now only needs its pre evo to be removed and deleted

>>27926202

This is the first genuine improvement ITT, nice.

THIS WHOLE THREAD IS SO BAD, THEY ALL LOOK GOOD AS THEY ARE

>>27926471
they may look good, but couldn't they look better?

>>27926367
This is fucking awful, jesus christ get some taste

>>27922587
Shiny Hawlucha is one of the best designs in the games. You just have shut taste and should consider an hero.

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>>27926644
Literally get taste youreself, it's a nightmarish clash of colors that would never work under any circumstances. In fact, while we're offering improvements...

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>>27926367
Did these a while back.

>>27926725
I hate that "brown" against that blue. Make it purple instead, or black, or gold, or something.

>>27926767
>WHY CAN'T THEY JUST BE ELECTABUZZ AND MAGMAR WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I HATE CHANGE

>>27926811
It's red you fucking moron. Any of those other colors wouldn't work half as well with that blue. Learn how color works.

>>27926725
Looks like vomit

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>>27926367
>Elekid has no tail
>Electibuzz has a tail
>Electivire has two tails
>No wait lets just kill logical progressions and give one tail again!!! Im a genius!
Do you even know shit about design at all? How can people even live with taste this horrible?

>>27926834
it's a shitty muddy shade of red that looks brown in comparison. I want you to keep the blue, and replace that ass-awful color "brown" with black, gold, or the purple from the legs.

>>27926816

Who are you quoting?

>>27926321
Looks more like a mega.

>>27926857
so every pokemon with a tail should get more tails upon evolving? what sort of fucked up logic is that? The evolution is that a tail was grown, that's it. Then it become a static design feature.

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>>27926846
No, that's what pic related looks like.

>>27926816
It's pretty universally accepted that Magmortar looks almost nothing like Magmar except for the flame motif.

They could have at least kept the quirky beak that Magmar has.

And Electabuzz looked like some sort of weird electric monkey alien, so I changed Electivire into a sort of electric bigfoot beast.

>>27926922

Garbage tier taste.

>>27926877
Once again, no. You're a fucking idiot. Beyond the fact that if I had actually altered the colors beyond moving a slider I would have made it a lighter shade of red, it looks fine. None of the colors you mentioned would improve the design. Learn fucking color theory.

>>27926356

Oh look, a retard.

>>27924838
>He literally just copied the eyes from Dwebble

>>27926923
>They could have at least kept the quirky beak that Magmar has.
They did, it's just shorter. And Electivire is already an electric yeti. You're a fucking idiot.

>>27926942
Sorry for being able to recognize a bad color scheme where you obviously can't.

>>27924838
>If it's a different color, it's hair
>>27926767
>It just gets bigger

>>27926321

Much better, although you can keep the Rhyperior pose.

>>27926321
>those tiny wimpy arms
>those retarded ears
Fucking no, jesus christ

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>>27926321

>>27926983
Quite literally no, u.

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>>27927083
Oh my god

>>27927083
As much as I think people complaining about Rhyperior is dumb, this looks nice without just being "why doesnt it just get bigger guys i dont understand"

>>27926767

Both objectively improved from the originals, good work.

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>>27926909
>so every pokemon with a tail should get more tails upon evolving?
Of course not you fucking retard. While this logic would seems silly for most pokemon, it would be a justified one for the Elekid line. As Elekid never had a tail in the first place but gains one throughout evolution. Why is it so hard for your garbage taste to comprehend this progressional design decision?

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>>27926955
maybe if you hadn't used a shit color then it wouldn't look like shit, I dunno just spitballin here my dude

of course, if I was doing it I wouldn't have made the legs purple and the pupils purple as well, but that's something else. For a guy who talks about color theory you just seem to have generally terrible taste.

>>27927221
Literally the only one of these that's any good is the red one. The yellow one is decent but doesn't pop much, the others are dull because they're composed entirely of cool colors.

>>27927160
>no tail
>tail
>big tail
what's wrong with this please elucidate me shaggy-senpai

also wtf is up with squirtle
>no hair
>gets hair
>cannon????

and Magby
>no tail
>tail
>different tail????

and chimchar
>no tail
>tail
>still just 1 tail????

>>27927296
>Magby
>>no tail
?????????????

I've never seen so much garbage taste in one thread lol

>>27926367
>>27926767
Who likes these shitty generic triangle eyes slapped onto a bunch of gen one pokemon that look like fucking stickers?

>>27918546
>Whine about the eyes
>KINGLER IS BETTER IN EVERY WAY
>Not even close to have crab eyes

Are haters dare I say hypocritical bitches?

>>27924838
It's not hair, it's it's feelers

Also using that logic, they should change every crustacean pokemon to have popped out eyes, since apparently a crab having non-crab eyes is stupid.

>>27927800
Who are you quoting

>>27926857
>>27927160
actually the dumbest series of posts i've ever seen on this website. i seriously hope you are trolling.

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>>27927000
still better than those sunken eyes
>>27927042
you can depict these as testicles too if you want
>>27927828
>it's it's feelers
No, you stuttering autist, those are antennae.

>>27928106
ANTENNAE ARE FEELERS YOU MORON

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>>27928106
>feelers and antennae aren't the same thing

>>27926159
And people on this board shit on people who like gen I non-ironically, just lol

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>>27918837

>>27918546
Way fucking worse. It now has beady, emotionless eyes on a pokemon all about heart and bravery.

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>>27918546

>>27926097
Much better
Could almost be gen 1

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>>27927221
>>27927286

try with gold and white

or better try with silver

>>27926321
Thank fucking lord vp isint in charge of designing pokemon.

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>>27918837

>>27930832
that looks cute as hell why do they have the giant dumb mouth?

>>27926767
Magmortar looks nice. Electivire is just a buff Electabuzz

>>27930832
They just look sad

>>27930832
Holy fucking shit, all these retards adding stripes and shit when all they needed was a different mouth. These are perfect.

>>27930899
I think its an emphasis on the fact that they are actually not bears, but plush toys/mascot based mons. The fact that Bewears mouth is actually under the muzzle piece is kind of terrifying, but I kind of like it for that same reason.

>>27926983
You always get upset when someone doesn't like your shit redesign.

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>>27918837

>>27926321
*Rhydon fixed

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I fixed Bewear.

As it turns out, the main problem with the design is that the eyes weren't expressive enough.

Wow... I already liked Jabcrab but this makes me sad that it's not how it actually looks.

>>27926097
>getting rid of the blackeye

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>>27918837

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Made the nose actually look like a nose as well as a beak. Also gave it a more muted orange rather than the striking yellow.

>>27932606
>Made the nose actually look like a nose
But that was its mouth.

>>27932939
No it wasn't? That said >>27932606 is a retard because the thing's mouth is under its nose, it doesn't have a beak.

>>27933065
I edited so it would have a beak. I also edited the mouth so that it lines up with the beak

>>27932606
>>27933298
>i don't know what this design is based on but i will still try to "fix" it
look up mata mata turtle you autist

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>>27931102
>filename

>>27933393
The mata mata turtle has a nose, not a funnel. The nose still goes out as far as the official art so it's still keeping with the origin. Granted the mata mata doesn't have a beak, but it would look awkward without it. The original has the nose shaped that simply giving it two nostrils would look like a beak.

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Tried my hand at fixing these messes.

>>27926367
That doesn't look good

>>27922587
>>27922750
>>27926159
>>27926725
>>27927000
>>27927094
>>27927286
>again with the word

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>>27932606

This is quite simply the worst one in this entire thread, Christ. Every day I find something new to make me thankful /vp/ has no say in how Pokemon are designed.

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>>27932606
How about fucking NO

>>27934167
So fucking good

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>>27934167
LET HIM HAVE CANON ARMS

>>27934162
>>27934123
Doesn't it hurt when there are people out there who don't know about wharf roaches, bee flies, triggerfish, matamata turtles, and coconut crabs? Cause it really hurts me.

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>>27934269
Yep, pic is half the pokemon base today with Crabrawler mono type

>>27934060
>WAAAAH PEOPLE CAN'T SAY LITERALLY
Get a life, autist. Go complain about buzzwords on facebook where people will agree with you.

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>>27934060
would you prefer practically?

>>27934156
Make his body wider and get rid of the dumb circlets on his arms.

>>27933958
>Popcario actaully looks better than both Popplio and Lucario
fuck

>>27932446
underrated

>>27926202
>takes the things Magmortar fixed and reverts them

Literally why

>>27934156
>muh geewun eyes
Actually disgusting.

>>27934241
that's a magmar redesign not magmortar

>>27934696
>Magmortar
>fixing anything
top wew

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>>27926725
>he doesn't like kanelucha

>>27926159
There are gen i pokemon that has a bunch of tiny details like the supposed gen4-ized pokemon, kangaskhan, gyarados, rhyhorn from the top of my head. If anything fen 1 garchomp would have more fleshy ornaments instead of drawn on most of the time

>>27934156
It looks bald

>>27924838

>random hair

it's a reference to Rocky Balboa with a pompadour. It's not random at all.

>>27926321
>Missing the idea of Protector

This is why many fanmade evos are shit

>>27934957
At least fanmade evos are only figurative shit, as opposed to Rhyperior who is literal shit.

>>27934968
Rhyperior is a solid Item trade evolution and I never understood the hate it gets. It's not uglier than it's preevo, the colorsheme is logical...
The Dusknoir make less sense

>>27935005
>It's not uglier than it's preevo
It is the ugliest pokémon ever designed. It is literally Rhydon who is fat as fuck and literally covered in shit. It takes a lot of effort to make an evolution look like a downgrade, but they managed.

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>>27935083
I'll never get why /vp/ hates Based Rhyperior

>>27935083
It is the ugliest pokémon ever designed.
THat's Lickylicky. even name is a joke.

>>27926097
Well some coconut crabs in various areas are orange so that work as a different variation. Seriously what problems do people have with its colours? Coconut crabs are purple and blue

>>27935083
Nah, Rhydon is the hideous one. Had a great chance for a stampeding rhino mon with rhyhorn, then fucked it up with ryhdons weird ass frills and stumpy arms. Rhyperior threw it all out the window cause lets face it, we had already left Rhino territory, might as well have a massive armored beast.

>>27935083
>Rhydon
>Not fat as fuck
Also the purpose of the design is to make it look heavily armoured so of course it wont look like a fuckin lopunny
>Waaah i want it to be pretty not fat and uglyyy
Faggot

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I felt like Turtonator's colors were pretty obnoxious, so I opted for "literally my mom's mata-mata."

>>27935515
Anon, it needs to look like a fire type. As it is it might as well be dragon/ground.

>>27934167
Holy fuck this is great

>>27922582
That's actually pretty badass.

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>>27935565
What about this?

>>27935515
Delicious chocolate

>>27934167
oh fuck

this is legit as hell

>>27935515
>>27935762
I can understand why you don't like the colors, but these don't really fit the design. It's supposed to be an unstable explosive of a pokémon and I feel as though the color scheme fits that perfectly. It's the same color choice you'd see in a cartoon explosion.

>>27935515
it's supposed to look like an explosion

>>27918546
Can someone edit crabrawler's legs so that they have an additional joint? Arthropod-style movement using legs with only one joint would look weird as fuck in motion.

My guess is that they're just going to stretch the legs when it walks in the anime.

>>27935762
much better than the pink shit we got

>>27934167
See, if Magmar looked like this, I'd have actually bothered catching it back in RBY. Magmortar saved the line as far as I'm concerned.

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>>27935789
What about this?
My main complaint is that the yellow is so bright, it makes him look like a clown.

>>27935762
It looks more 'natural and easy on eye, i wouldnt mind it if it was legit, even if the original is supposed to have the exploding concept going on

>>27935811

I can your design working as much as the original. I think the reason they made the yellow pop out so much is that explosive colors are usually very bright.

>>27935870
>I think the reason they made the yellow pop out so much is that explosive colors are usually very bright.
I know, and I get that they were going for that, but that doesn't make the color scheme any easier on the eyes.

I don't think GF should be making pokemon actively unappealing purely for the sake of making them look more like their inspiration.

>>27930832
I can't believe how much better a mouth makes this. But that's good! Too many edits fuck around too much with the concepts behind these 'mons.

>>27934167
Holy fuck. It even looks like the artist went the extra step to emulate Sugimori's watercolor art a bit.

>>27934696
>things Magmortar fixed
Are you stupid?
Don't bother replying, I already know the answer.

>>27935083
>ugliest
>barnacle exists
wew

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>>27926321
The plates need to be orange.

>>27936594
Maybe GF should have made the protector item a less stupid color, then.

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>>27936620
Maybe anons need to stop being retarded, then.

>>27936654
What does a high-visibility vest have to do with protective armor plating?

>>27918546
It should have been called Clobster.

>>27936665
Might've worked if it was actually a lobster.

>>27936661
Rhyperior is partially based on a construction worker.

>>27936690
Based on what, other than the coloration of its plates?

>>27934167
20/10

>>27935918
I don't think your opinion is shared by 100% of the Pokemon community, so stop thinking that it is.

>>27936763
You think there are people who would complain about Turtonator's colors not being bright and obnoxious enough, if it looked like >>27935811 instead?

>>27936734
The fact that it's tail transforms into a wrecking ball as well as the hard hat and earmuffs
Also, you can't just dismiss the colouration like that.

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>>27919648

>>27918546
But it was already good

>>27936804
>Also, you can't just dismiss the colouration like that.
I could if the coloration was the only reason.
Because, if so, then the logic would be "He's orange because he's based on a construction worker, and he's based on a construction worker because he's orange" which is why I asked for other reasons.

>>27926415
Yeah no

>>27926725
>He doesn't want a shiny based on another variant of a luchador mask
Kill yourself

>>27936773
Considering all the "gen 6 models are shit" thread, yeah.

>>27926942

>green+orange
>green+purple

each are ugly combos but the fact it does both makes it bad
the purple and red are okay

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>>27936920
>green+purple
>ugly combo

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>>27930832
There's a very clear and simple fix here

>>27927221

turn red into a purple/red or pink
turn the white fur into an off-white peach

the thing is the colors work in the standard, but look inverted anytime you flip them because the eyes are two toned, it has a lot of white, and its eyes match its feet because of the 4 colors only rule

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>>27932446

>gen 1/2 sugi style
>becomes mario villain

>>27918573
I like the simplification of the color scheme, but change the head back.

>>27926321
Better, but bring back the cannon arms.

>>27918617
Yeah but it's not like OP is making a good example for his thread.

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inb4 it just gets bigger

>>27937199
Literally my mom's crawfish.

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I tried I guess.

>>27934895
All of the tiny details you're talking about are bumps and scales. Not brightly coloured rings and stars which add a fourth colour to the pallet.

>>27918546
Worse.

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>>27933393
This is all I found, I don't get it

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>>27937626

>>27937562
>if it's gen 1 it's a scale, an important part of the body you see

>>27937773
>this level of reading comprehension
>trying this hard to push your genwunner boogeyman

>>27926159
I don't care how edgy it makes me, that Charizard looks badass.

>>27935793

Well they fucked up then, because it looks like a retard.

>>27937282
>kill me

>>27922587
>joke
>your head

>>27936946
Holy shit I love it

>>27935810
The file name was wrong; it was originally supposed to be a Magmortar redesign.

>>27919648
It looks like its balding and has large ears.
Also too many pink dots, the two above its eyes make it look surprised.

>>27937282
Stop trying.

>>27926097
>gen 3 Kingler
Coconut crabs are most often blue as well. Are you guys afraid of anything but earth-tones?

>>27926202
Now Magmortar looks like an obese duck with down syndrome. At least Magmortar looked like some monster.
Magmar's tacked-on duck elements were always shit.

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I tried my hand at giving crabrawler some legs with better articulation.

Should I do the other two legs, or are these worse than the original?

>>27934167
wait, is this a Magmar redesign, or a Magmortar?

>>27926321
That's much, much better.

But part of me would still prefer that Rhydon be the fully evolved one...idk. Could they have just increased some of Rhydon's base stats in the later games? Did they really need to add an evo for him?

>>27926367
>gen 1 scowly eyes
>no cable-tails, just Electabuzzes tail that adds nothing to the entire design
I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but you should consider taking your own life.
>>27926321
That "Rhyperior" is what Rhydon should've been, honestly. Rhydon was always a messy design with an awful color-scheme (beige+grey, jesus christ)

>>27936821
fucking this, it's circuitous reasoning. The solution is to NOT BE BASED ON A CONSTRUCTION WORKER. That was clearly a dumb idea, and if we're "redesigning" then we can feel free to take different, less-retarded design paths.

>>27937971
He should have been the dragon-fire mega. Or better yet, just a dragon fire 4th evo or alter-evo from charmelion.

>>27926367
ERECTURABUZZ-SAMA

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>>27927083
Literally low-tier Digimon design

Why do people get so triggered when it's suggested that a design isn't as good as it could be? Like do people really honestly care about Rhyperior or Electivire or Magmortar or Crabrawler SO MUCH that they think they're absolutely perfect in every way?

I feel like I only see this kind of "it's official so it's perfect you can never change it" autism in the Pokemon and Smash Bros community.

>>27927083
>keeps all the awful shit about it
>removing some of the kinda cool bits like the wrecking ball tail

now its just ugly AND boring

>>27927083
I'd be okay with this.
I'm not okay with the actual Rhyperior

>>27932446
this is my favorite

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>>27934167
>Magmar will never ever be this

Is magmar's butt forehead the worst thing about him?

Why did GF design him with a butt forehead?

>>27939253
Yes looks better. Looks like it has gained weight.

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>people thinking Garchomp isn't 10/10
Faggots

>>27935112
Honestly, I have trouble trusting anyone who has Rhydon as one of their favorite designs, or their "bro", on the topic of Pokemon design.
>Rhyhorn - basically a Monster Hunter herbivore
>evolves into completely different monster, only share the same grey color. Now has bunny ears and shit all over its face. Also, an actual working horn what the fuck is this digimon?

>Rhyperior is somehow the aberration

>>27939253
Are you fucking joking?
The things you drew look like fucking straws. His legs are fine already, and look more like crab legs than the shit you drew.

>>27939435
the legs he drew does look like crab legs to mongoloid. the problem with his design is that it looks barely like the legs of an actual coconut crab.

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>>27935152
This guys gets it
>"its meant to be a rhino, guys!"
>only first form has remotely rhino traits, i.e. a (small) horn and being quadraoed. Still looks reptilian, though
>second form looks absolutely nothing like a rhino, more like a drill-frog-faced kaiju from a kaiju b-movie
GF basically noticed that the Rhy line never had consistency cause "gen 1 lol" so they designed a good-looking demolition monster because they may as well.

>>27937105
Shit, thats actually really good.

>>27926922
Call me edgy but I think that just red and black with the yellow details would have looked great

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>>27939435
It could never climb a tree using legs with only one joint, especially if its lower legs are shorter than its thighs.

Besides that, as it is now the length of its thighs relative to its lower legs would make walking difficult at best, since it would have a poor ability to regulate the distance of the point at which its foot contacts the ground, relative to its body. At the very least the thigh should be shortened and the lower leg lengthened, but the addition of an extra joint would be ideal for both walking and climbing.

But yes, I suppose if you ignore all that, they do have the downside of being a bit thinner than its normal ones.

>>27939389
GF during gen 1 didn't really seem to have a concensus on what Pokemon should be.

>>27939546
Did they fire the guy who thought Pokemon should be animals with butts for foreheads?

>>27939482
No, they don't. Have you ever seen a fucking crab in your life? They don't have hollow fucking tubes for legs, with smaller tubes inside of them. They have segments like ligaments in between, something present in Crabrawler, but not the shitty edit.
Jesus, get outside of your room for once, you worthless sack of shit.

>>27939389
It is terrible. Butt it is also kinda funny. And Magmar was always more of an adversary mon (Blaine's top mon) than a mon you were supposed to train and use yourself. At least that was my interpretation, and why I didn't have huge problem with magmar's ugliness.

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>>27939575
I don't know about other species, but at least for the coconut crab, the exoskeletal plating is nested in such a way that their ligaments aren't exposed at the joint, nor even visible.

>>27937626
why the fuck is the desert north of the snowy mountain

>>27939620
The mountains are snowy due to elevation, not latitude.

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>>27926321
>>27926367
>>27926767
Why it must get bigger?
They are already fine.

>>27939569
I hope most of the gen 1 pokemon designers were fired
>hey what if Alakazam had LESS details and bits than Kadabra?
>while we're at it, give them spoons. I don't know how they get them, it doesn't matter
>I drew this robo-tortoise with cannons, how about your feathered tortoise evolves into it?
>uhh this creatures are meant to evolve naturall-
>NO IT'LL BE COOL TRUST ME

>>27939668
it is cool though

>>27934167
Add cannon arms and you got yourself a 10/10 top-tier design soldier.

>>27939691
In the same way MetalGreymon is cool.

>>27939668
I totally feel you on the A-zam/K-bra thing.

I always thought Kadabra looked so much cooler than his evo.

>>27939731
>being this salty about a good pokemon design.

>>27939736
Don't you fucking talk shit about MetalGreymon

>>27918546
Much better
maybe make the legs more crab-like and less rounded

>>27918837

>No I don't like it's concept, CHANGE IT

What if I did the same shit to one of your favorite Pokemon? Would you like that fuck face?

I'm curious to know why Mods don't consider these kind of threads gen wars because they basically are

>>27934123
>>27934162
>it's okay to look like trash if it's based on (thing)
FUCK OFF

>>27934156
This looks like a good female lucario gender difference imo. I would settle for that

>>27934269

You expect anything from Genwunners?

>>27924838

>Random

Coconut crabs have long attena's on their head that curve upward

They just took that and pretend it's hair to mimick rocky as a boxer

Why are you people so fucking stupid

You think you know your shit about animals but you fucking dont

>>27940295
see
>>27940219

>>27935515

Your opinion on the color means nothing

It's a fucking fire type so it's going to have a fire color scheme

>>27939253

Anon you are aware his normals legs are actual crab legs positioned in a fighting stance right?

Does the Pokemon need to stand in the most generic way possible for you to be happy

Why is everyone on this board so fucking stupid

>>27940219
When you go "I hate pokemon because they look like funny cartoon animals instead of the real thing, let me 'fix' it by taking it even farther away from the real animal" people who know what they're talking about are going to laugh at you, you should expect this.

>>27939389

Shhhh

Your not supposed to point out gen 1 flaws

It's already bad enough it's okay to shove bulgy eyes on crab Pokemon that aren't kingler

>>27940368
>taking it even farther away from the real animal
What is wrong with this?

>>27940219

It's only trash to you anon

And that's not the argument

It does t have a fucking beak, redesign him, go ahead, but he doesn't have a fucking beak

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>>27940403
>redesign it but don't redesign it

>>27940319
>>27940219

>Let me rehash the same argument anytime somebody shits on a redesign

There's a difference between making a redesign and putting something that makes no sense

What if gave Kingler long atenna's because it gives me autism that his head looks like a crown? Will you defend me by replying to the others saying that it's a garbage design following concept?

Because that's exactly what your fucking doing

>>27940434
Kingler is a good design so I don't know why you would change it

>>27940433

Your missing his point

Why would you give a turtle a beak? If it doesn't have one?

Just remove what you don't like, don't replace it with shit that makes even less sense

>>27940219
>redesigns Donphan without a trunk
>people start reasonably calling you an idiot
>"hurrdurr you only like trunk because its based on thing"

>>27940219

Except that's not what they said, it's the fact that tube hole is his mouth and shouldn't be a beak

>>27918546
Worse. I think it looks half assed now. It was cartoonish before, maybe too cartoonish, but it was consistent. Now it's not 'toon nor real enough.

>>27918546

I want you to add those eyes to Kingler, Crawdaunt and Clawitzer right now and see if it truly is a good idea

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>>27940168
Holy moly what an overreaction

>>27940768

An overreaction would be a longer reaction

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perfect

>>27939620
what is a rain shadow?

>>27924931
Give it a final evolution.

>>27932446
want

>>27940895
Where are the joints?
Where is the muscle definition?
Why is yellow, red, brown, and black, and not just half of those colors?
Where are the realistic claws?
Why is just a round blob?
Why are the eyes oversimplified?
Why is its head half of its height?
Jesus fuck, whoever designed this knows nothing about anything. That entire gen is absolute trash because of this one design.

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>>27937105
Slight tweaks for a different look

>>27932446

Funny, but terrible as an actual redesign.

>>27936946

Cute, but terrible as an actual redesign.

>>27940393

Because it implies the person has no idea what the original intention was behind the design, so rather than trying to fix it within that context they just throw the baby out with the bathwater.

>>27935762
I love this magma turtle.

There has never been a single attempt at "improving" a pokemon that didn't instead look worse, like a bad fakemon.
Please stop with these retarded threads.

>>27918546
Everything except for the name is a 10/10 for me.

I'd name it Crawky.

>>27940544
>tube hole is his mouth
The tube hole is its nose

>>27941335
obvious, but terrible as an actual criticism

>>27936819
Holy fuck, these images piss me off. Every fucking time, the hand is anatomically positioned incorrectly. I want you, on your smelly cushioned chair, to try and get your hand in that position facing the right way. You won't be able to because IT'S FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE. Please stop posting these cancerous as fuck images and post corrected versions.

>>27943030

Seems like a legitimate criticism to me. Both of the linked posters failed to improve on the concept, instead altering it to something else entirely.

>>27918546
>ITT: worse, always.

>>27918546
Way better. The regular one's eyes look retarded.

>>27918901
>He's going to be with its great stats and the fantastic coverage it get
you dont know this...

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>>27926202
>>27926321
>>27926367
It literally just gets bigger.

>>27939546
I think in gen 1 they still viewed pokemon as a more standard rpg and had very little focus on world building or the idea of pokemon creating an ecosystem since pokemon themselves were designed as monsters and not so much as animals

It's why something like voltorb made more sense back then, since an item mimic is a pretty typical rpg trope even if it makes little to no sense otherwise

>>27941503
Completely false my man. I'll give you the general majority of the time they do, but you can't say they always look worse.

>>27939278
In the original thread from a few months ago, it was a Magmortar redesign.

>>27918546
>Also ITT we fix designs
>OP didn't even fix the design and made it worse

>>27945983
sorry to break it to you dude, but literally 80% of pokemon could be called it just gets bigger.

>>27947767
Either way it's fucking cool