21,000 Dislikes from TV Tokyo

>>27895463
I liked it just to spite you fgt.

>>27895485
This.
Ashnimeshitters are cancer.

>>27895463
Disliked

>>27895463
All those dislikes are from /vp/

>>27895463
Let's get Japan's passionate fans involved with our efforts at >>27894433

>>27895542
Hah, loser. My dislike brought it up to an even 20!

>>27895528
No, there Is a japan forum where peoples started the revenge

>>27895463
Hey come fuck on now don't dislike the other videos. Don't touch my Aikatsu! you fucking dipshits.

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reminder that disliking the video wont change the outcome

>>27895580
No.

This has to be the most autistic and cringiest thing i've ever seen /vp/ get up in arms about

You have to admit bringing back the writers from the worst show to take the heat is some japan tier shifting the "shame" around.


A good Jap not taking the dishonor but shifting it around to survive in corporate japan.

>>27895672
So if u know that your fan are not happy about what u did, u Dont try to change?

>>27895672

True, but it will show clearly that people didn't enjoy it... which hopefully when they make Ash lose next season (because muh win one time series end stigma) they do it more classy.

>>27895732
Type normally.

>>27895765
No

>>27895463
23k bois

Where can I watch the episode?

>>27895485
Like that'll make a difference when the votes are 20k + apart.

>>27895609
link?

>>27895463
>nearly the entire Pokemon community
How delusional can you be to believe that? No one cares about your shitty cartoon.

>>27895672
It just a way to describe opinion. You know, most of the peoples do so if they like/dislike something.

>>27895729
It's not /vp/.

>>27895798
Gratzzz

>>27895463
Done.

>>27895463
Pokemon's target audience barely browses the new, much less uses Youtube. 90% of those dislikes are from gaijin manchildren who are buttmad Narutoad didn't win. The remaining 10% are native Japs, but manchildren nonetheless.

Why is the view counter stuck at 68,376?

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Eh, I'm not autistic enough to care about whether Ash wins or loses some shitty ass league.

This wasn't even a appropriate league, it felt more like a tournament. A league is what I'd call to something like the Elite Four or whatever the heck, to make someone go through a trial. You know, just like in the games.

Plus, all the Japanese woomies are already doing all the work. Wew, I guess that's what happens when you make misleading previews and titles, people actually thought for a second Ash was going to win. Not like I didn't see this coming miles away, the series needs to have a never aging protagonist, apparently.

sasuga whoever is in charge of all this, nothing against ya, but the entire episode felt really rushed despite the outcome. Felt underwhelming compared to previous ones.

>>27895729
Not vp, japan community started it

>>27895672
They can make the frog beat the zard in the flare arc and take the champion title from Alain for helping causing the armaggedon.

>>27895831
Im not talking about the youtube channel exclusively. Have you seen the catalog?

Why joel didnt comment yet?

>>27895485
This

>>27895960
Joel?

>>27895485

I disliked it just to btfo your like.

>>27895820
I bet you would've been happy if Ash won

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>>27895850
You're underestimating the angry Jap. They can be far more hostile than the Western fandom. I wanted to use the more recent example of the Bleach fans who destroyed their merchandise, but I don't have that image on me. Have this instead.

Tell that to the angry Japanese fans that have been bashing TV Tokyo & Pokemon Company all fucking day. I bet you would be cheering if Ash won.

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It was his moment, /vp/.

>>27895891

>This wasn't even a appropriate league

Confirmed for never having watched the anime.

>>27896084
What was that for, the PS3 port? I thought nips hated "american pig" Xbox anyway

/vp/ would implode if Ash won.

>>27896084
What happened here?

>>27896183
zestria i think

>>27896166
Vesperia was originally a 360 exclusive, so I'm guessing someone got pissed that they spent hundreds to get an inferior version of a game

>>27896169
>/vp/ would implode if Ash won
It imploded when he lost. Things are still bad right now, hours later. Right after it happened it was pretty crazy. I'm sure some people took screencaps of the catalog.

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>>27896084
>tfw Vesperia will never be ported to anything else outside of Japan

>>27896263
I would like to see those, I don't follow the show so I wasn't there when it happened.

>>27895463
So, after this backlash, how will the anime make up for it with Alola series?

I don't care OP. I stopped caring like 18 years ago.

>>27896498

Ash will win a 'league' that isn't worth anything.

>>27896498
It will make up for it in the Flare arc.

>>27895850
You really underestimate the rage of some pissed off nips

>>27896498
By not having Gyms/League.

>>27896498
How did they make up for Tobias?

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>>27896402

>>27896498

It's too late now, the damage is done. This was Ash's best possible chance of winning the League, the first time he had even managed to make it to the finals. Even in DP Tobias knocked him out in the semis. The show built up everything to signify a victory for Ash, then took it all away.

I imagine a lot of longtime fans will drop the anime after this episode or at least stick around for the rest of XYZ, but they won't care if Ash does somehow win Alola's equivalent to a League.

Ash deserved to lose. He's an edgy cocky faggot who just wanted to win.

Alain was a much better character, who actually had developmeng. He was fighting for Mairin and he showed good sport. He should have been the MC.

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>>27895463
Anyone who thought Ash wasn't going to lose is delusional, we've had 20 years of precedent. It does sound like an asspull that Greninja lost to a Fire-type attack though.

>>27896498
It probably won't, with how strong he seems we should expect a Unova-tier nerf to him.

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>>27895463
Top kek

Many of those nips probably don't even know how to make a decent episode so why would TV Tokyo even care about those fags? Ash deserve to lose because he's a mediocre trainer. Ash greninja was just a lot of bullshit to get the anime to seem cooler

>>27895463
At least the dislikes mean they know its bad and that Ash better win next time.

>>27896689
You have to realize that 20 years is a long time and it eventually has to change, it's not easy for people to wait 20 years, even less 23.

>>27896702
Alain is the mediocrest of mediocrest trainer, all his team is shit and he relied in one single mega to win, with zero strategy.

>>27895463

https://youtu.be/D5hVW1JxHL4

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So why didn't ash have a mega ? Did having a syncro thing count as his mega or something?

>>27896766

Anon, don't fall for gamefags shitposting.

Those are the same guys who say 'ashnime'.

>>27895463

https://youtu.be/D5hVW1JxHL4

>>27896498
By keeping Serena to mitigate the damage

>>27895463
I really am happy that the writers of the pokemon anime are getting back lash and all the back lash they deserve cause people have had it.

>>27895809
it's on youtube just look it up

>>27895521
You do realize that most dislikes are from regular fans and average audience.
What I mean by most is 99% of them.

>>27896744
>it eventually has to change

No it doesn't. Charlie Brown didn't ever get to kick the football (in the original comic I mean, I think there was a cartoon episode where he managed it), never got together with the redhead girl, never won a baseball game, and that ran for about fifty years. Status quo is status quo, if the writers don't want to change it, thing will stay the same forever.

>>27896736
There is no next time, not at least for 6 years.

>>27896909
The difference is that we have internet now and the audience gets mad, nobody could complain at the time of that, but now it's different, the writers need to realize the audience don't have the patience to wait other 3 years. I don't understand why they couldn't predict this backslash, it's obvious it would happen if he lose.

>>27896909
This desu.

You will be waiting til the end of the show/franchise before you see it. Maybe.

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>>27895463
>We've waited 20 years to see Ash get to a Pokemon League Final!? Then the writers screwed us over again with their BS.

>>27896843
Hahaha. Serena will be replaced as soon as they move to Alola. She's XY advertising. They don't care about what you want to happen.

>>27896978
The audience don't have the patience to wait that long.

>>27897016
By who? Generic protagonist that looks exactly like her with a different hat?

>>27896977
Pokemon has a pseudoplot, not a real one.

>>27895729
You don't have to look at it, you know. You could just be a good normalfag and head back to >>>/reddit/

Hey I came from /v/ I don't understand what all this drama is coming from

So Ash apparently lost his big tournament battle?
but didn't he lose like, every one of his tournament finals?
If I recalll he lost his first one in kanto, he lost the 2nd one too, hell I don't even remember a one where he won...

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>>27896823

>>27897020
Why should the producers care? New series = new audience

>>27897061
That has nothing to do with the point.

>>27895672
It will change future outcomes though.

>>27897115
Except no, there are the people that have been following this for 20 years, and the people who won't pick it up because they heard of the lose in this one, if anything they will lose audience.

>>27897049
Mallow. It's not like every Generational female has been the games' protagonist.

>>27897090
The show actually built up expectations that he would win for once

>>27897156
Yeah, there are people who've watched 27 years of the Simpsons now too and Bart's still in 4th grade.

>>27897207
Not really

>>27897216
Nobody is expecting anything from the simpsons.

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>>27895463

>>27897248
Detective Conan

>>27897163
Why not both?

>>27895463
I don´t watch the anime, what happened?
Did the league got canceled because of Zygarde?
Enlighten me /vp/

>>27897115
>New series = new audience
Who is the new audience, because if you say every region brings new kids it just bean 3 years of this series, those kids are still the audience and they didn't like this

The Simpsons is a never-ending show. It's perfectly fine if they keep their characters the same age, etc.

But Ash has said since the 90s he wants to be a Pokemon Master but we've watched for 20 YEARS of failure, after failure, after failure. We're sick of the writers milking this series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rQ9rXo6dw

What the fuck is this and why is it on their official channel?

>>27897281
For that one the writer already said he has the ending written and will realize it when the series stops giving him profit. So, the audience knows and it's literally keeping that one alive.

>>27897287
Ash lost the final battle

>>27897285
When have they ever kept last gen's fenale companion since Misty?

>there are people who take a 20 minute advertisement for a childrens game THIS seriously

>>27897287
First, please don't use a name while posting.

To answer your question, the League didn't get cancelled, Ash v. Alain finished their battle completely, Goodra and Greninja fucking jobbed hard so Alain could win. Greninja got KO'd by Blast Burn, a Fire-type attack, while Charizard shrugged off his special snowflake orange Water Shuriken. People are pissed, even if I saw it coming.

>>27897122
He doesn't have a point, though. His "point" doesn't exist because Pokemon doesn't have an actual plot. So what if people will complain about it? They are only showing they are retards. He says people are complaining, but the only people complaining are the idiots who think Pokemon isn't a pseudoplot and actually expecting Ash to win a league. The anime is literally bait for newer generations, they are literally experiencing Season 1 over and over again in a simulation of Season 1 meant to replicate the same feelings we had when we watched it.
This is like playing MGS2 and complaining about something that you already complained about in MGS1, without realizing that's the entire point of the game.
Anyone who foolishly thinks or hopes the "plot" will move forward , who keeps watching Pokemon not expecting equivalent results from a past season and then complaining about it when it happens again is a babbling fool.

>>27897317
Hahahahahahaha. What do you think the anime is for other than milking it? Its as much an endless show as the simpsons or south park or detective conan

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>>27897368
>it's "the cartoon is an advertisement" episode

>>27897375
People are dumb.More News at 11

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>25k dislikes

I guess the show is truly a metaphor of life after all, just a series of disappointments and nothing more. Bravo.

>>27897365
Alola is small.

>>27896292
>he doesn't have a CFW PS3
>He hasn't played the fantranslation

tsk tsk

>>27897317
>20 YEARS of failure, after failure, after failure

>top 16
>top 8
>top 4
>top 2

More like 20 years of success and improvement.

>>27897402
It is though. It has zero artistic merit.

>>27897417
lol, no.

>>27897402
In this case, yes. Any adult worth their salt has stopped watching the show years ago. Video games are one thing, I suppose, as they are semi-social. I really don't understand the appeal of Pokemon to people in their early 20s (my age group), but I feel like playing the games is a little more acceptable and believable than them watching the cartoon. I only watched it as a kid because I fucking loved the games and wanted more of anything Pokemon related. Now, I just pick one up when I'm bored on the way home from work after it's been out for a bit and just get through the single player stuff.

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Good. Let them burn.

>>27897398
People complain about him losing after this perfect set up for him to win.

>>27897413
This. Reality is always disappointing.
When confronted with exciting news and boring news you should always expect the latter to be true over the former.

>>27897368
Gundam has been doing it for 50 years

>>27897453
I haven't used my PS3 in a very long time so I'm not sure if I meet the requirements to hack it. I really need to stop being lazy and get on it since Vesperia isn't coming over...

>>27897508
Yeah man, but what's cooler? FUCKIN MECHAS IN TACTICAL SPACE BATTLES or overly joyful cartoon animals that can only say their names?

>>27897459
It's not about artistic merit, it's putting up with him for 20 years. People want him to win so they can finally die happy.

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Were people this upset last time or are they just getting really fed up now because of how close he's getting lately

>>27897317
Being a pokemon master is Ash's goal. The series objective is showing him and his friends having fun on an adventure meeting all kinds of pokemon with team rocket and gyms to keep the illusion of an end goal. Yes, this is cliche as fuck, but the most important thing is the journey, not the destination

>>27897499
They are still complaining over him losing, like what happened in all past seasons.
This is the cycle of the pokemon anime with every new season.
There is no escape from the cycle, even if the form changes the essence will still be the same.

>>27897534
No one's happiness in death is hinged on whether or not Ash ever wins.

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>>27897533
Why not both?

>>27896166
You're thinking of before Idolm@ster ensured every nerd in Japan owned a 360.

>>27897551
last time Ash lost to a comic relief faggot with 5 pokemon and people raged. granted Ash was also a faggot back at BW so it wasnt really a big deal.

But now....

>>27897248
And nobody should expect anything from Pokemon too, especially after this long.
People expecting anything from Pokemon are just as autistic as a person expecting anything from The Simpsons.

>>27897551
Only brings 5 pokemon in 6v6 and ash still loses.

>>27897533
It's still just a franchise that at its core is just a comercial to sell model kits to children.

So using the "It's just a comercial for kids in show form" isn't a reason that people can't enjoy it or "take it seriously".

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>>27897508
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLU5mFoJtKM
gundam was made by a very depressed fucking man and created the show on his own, it even being a failure. first of all NOONE could control tomino, he did whatever the fuck he wanted.

BURASTO BAHN!!!!!!!!

>>27896689
>It does sound like an asspull
>sound like
so you haven't watch the episode to know how badly directed and paced it is?

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>>27895463
really makes you think woah...
literally edgelords and whiny hysterical children putting dislikes as revenge while also advertising it...they sure will show them with those dislikes....hmmm...the power...of le legion...anonymous...

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>>27897508
Individual Gundam shows have conclusions. It's not like you've had nothing but an ongoing Gundam 0079 where time never progresses and the war is at a perpetual standstill. I mean there's always a war in Gundam but even when you have UC continuations there are time lapses and changes in power.

Keep in mind I've only seen like five Gundam things and they were all UC, I'm sure the AU series like G Gundam and Gundam Wing are even more different.

>>27897728
I don't watch the anime, no. I said a couple years ago that I'd marathon all of XY if Ash won, figuring he wouldn't do so, and I ended up being right.

>>27895913
this is not like it works
and this isn't kanto either where badges are given for free or for helping an old lady to cross the street '__>'

>>27895463
>over 20k people are retarded enough to believe that Ash would win anything
Oh god, just shut up, I want Serena to ditch Ash for Alain and see how much butthurt a person can get.

>>27897572
The difference is that it had been way too much time to still put up with this for more. Patience is not infinite.

>>27897626
You'd be surprised.

>>27896898
and they in turn are ashmime shitters

>>27897902
Then stop watching. This show isn't for you.

>>27897670
The difference is that people is following Pokemon after 20 years because they are expecting something. The only reason to still watch it after 20 years is to watch him win a league.

>>27897303
>those kids are still the audience and they didn't like this
You watched Ash lose much more leagues and you are still watching, why would the new kids stop now? Or did you wanted Ash to lose when you were a kid?

>>27895463
Ways to redeem the Anime
>>Kris vs Lyra episode
>>Leaf gets an actual Counterpart
>>Leaf kicks all who beat Ash collective Butts
>>Hilda and Hilbert actually get animated
>>Replace Ash with Selene
>>Porygon becomes new Mascot replacing Pikachu
And
>>Giratina as Kyurem's Bride.

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Didn't they say that they would end the show once ash beat a league?

>>27896084
what happened with bleach?

all i know is that the anime ended and that the final arc had been dragging or whatever.

>>27897942
No, the writters need to understand that the audience is pissed.

>>27897967
When we were kids he never looked like he'd win. Now he was one step away from it.

>>27898000
lol. So you're just going to demand they just change it coz you dont like it. Go back to tumblr, kid.

>>27895891
>This wasn't even a appropriate league

What. The Pokemon Leagues are ALWAYS tournaments. The game version is incredibly boring in comparison.

>>27897942
I do whatever I want, eunuch.

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I kno its not rly cannon, but didn't Ash win orange league???

>>27898032
and battle frontier

>>27898027
No, change it cause every single nip twitter don't like it.

>>27898025
>he never looked like he'd win
You have to be kidding, right? Kingler was one of the best fights I have seen in the entire anime, I really thought he would pull through the power of friendship and believing really hard.

>>27898032
that's not even a real league, I mean you only need 4 badges to enter and one of them was obtained by racing with that icy thing

>>27897508
gundam is not a kids show, now it is but back then adults watched it as much as kids, but actually seriously since it wasn't made for games or toys that was the second part after it became a hit and... tomino was in charge of his creation not a company. He fucking had nude women, death, rape, millions being gassed. lets not even talk about victory.

>>27895463
hahahaha
half of them were probably special snowflakes from deviantart and the likes that usually fap to the idea of synchro evolutions and shit

m-muh frog fursona didn't win waaah

>>27898074
Oh you checked every Twitter account in Japan and they all didnt like it?

>>27896292
It's okay. You'll see Vesperia in Project X Zone 3

>>27898116
Stand up to the victory! ;_;

>>27897508
Yeah but there is some legit great stuff to come from Gundam like 0080 and G, pokemon had an alright first season and then everything else was kinda whatever

>>27898125
You're truly retarded

>>27898095
>what will be Alola

>>27898074
>every single nip twitter
>as if every single nip cares about pokemon
Holy shit, stay delusional.

>>27898087
Charizard doing whatever he wants always was there and knew it would bite him in the end.

>>27898087
not to mention there was no precedent of him losing all the time nor was there an indication that the anime was gonna go on for another 20 years.

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>>27898144

Constantly getting into the Leage and making it to the finals still makes him stronger than 90% of people who dedicated their lives to battling. It's not like he's a loser or retarded. Or rather, that makes him one of the least retarded trainers in the pokemon universe

>>27898150
Yes me and not the one angry about the outcome of a fight in a badly written kids product placement cartoon.

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>>27898157
hopefully not anything even close to that

>>27898159
Every single nip that tweeted about it, obviously.

lol you manchildren are fucking idiots and pathetic.

Ash was never going to win.

>>27898159
considering how crazy petty japanese otaku get when they're pissed i wouldn't be surprised if at least half of the downvotes were the work of one guy.

>>27898203
So you did check them all?

>>27897487

Thanks, taste police. Nothing like not recognizing people can be different to make the day better, eh?

(You are an imbecile, by the way. and this is coming from someone that doesn't even care about the anime)

>>27898195
It wasn't badly writen until this point.

>>27898242
Damn it, why did I fall for bait.

>>27898226
>lol you manchildren are fucking idiots and pathetic.
You do realize you're on /vp/, right? You're also one by default.

>>27898184
>It's not like he's a loser or retarded
Oh man, do you even watch the anime?

>>27898242
That made me laugh. Thank you.

>>27898294
Do you?

>>27898291
Among the manchildren, there are the ones that even more manchildren, retarded and stubborn, and then there are the ashnime faggots.

>>27898027
Hey Sherlock Holmes was changed after release because people despised how the series ended. That happened long before the internet was available to complain and campaign on.

Never underestimate an angry audience, especially one filled with angry, autists and the Japanese.

did people seriously think ash would win? i thought it was a joke

>>27898317
How can one person watch the anime and think that ash is smart is beyond me.

>>27895891

Ash beat the Orange Crew (bleh) like 16 years ago. There's your fucking traditional league.

>>27898367
Me too, until now.

>>27898373
There is a gap between retarded and smart.
He's good at pulling strategies in the moment and analyzing the battlefield to take advantage of it.

>>27895463
26k kek

>>27898327
I cant believe the author succumbed to censorship.

>>27895672

It shows that people hate it for future reference

Same goes with Paper Mario Color Splash and Metroid Fedforce

>>27897991
I dont get that. Like even if he wins, he loves pokemon. All you would have to do is like show the next gen legendary flying over at the end and hed run to the next region no matter what. The journey is neverending or else cynthia would just sit at home by herself all day.

Dislikes don't mean anything.

do you seriously not understand how social media and youtube work? Each "dislike" is a view. That's all they care about.

People are HELPING them. engaging with their product.

>>27895729
even people who don't follow the anime are pissed

>was on the fence on XY&Z for a long while
>hear about how great Ash is doing in the league and give it a go
>initially planned on blitzing through it to catch up but end up really enjoying everything from TR to contests to even most of the filler
>love Clemont and Serena, Kaloshipping even gives me a nice warm feeling despite having shipped Ash/Misty for years
>overall adore this season and would recommend it to anyone
>truly wishing Ash would win
>then this happens
It's soured the whole series for me, honestly. Now we know Serena is going to go back to that Contest milf and be gone forever and Ash will get yet another reset only to lose again and Jessie will likely also ditch the Gourgeist whom she has an amazing bond with because nothing in this show will ever change besides the ever increasing level of Charizard worship.

I feel so foolish for having hope in the anime and this loss is likely going to keep me from ever getting remotely invested in any future non-spinoff Pokemon anime. Feels really really bad, man.

>>27898327
This. The ratings will sink after this fiasco and they'll actually have to see what the people are talking about.

>>27898294
>Oh man, do you even watch the anime
Oh man, did you even read the rest of the sentence? He's still better than most

>>27898417
Yeah, we should all SJW our way into only content we like!

>>27898445
Shut the fuck up nintendo. Good luck selling federation force.

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>>27898453

>>27895463
I don't follow the show too closely, but I just don't understand why they're so adamant about preventing him from winning. There's no reason Ash can't win a league and also continue on with his adventures. He won the Orange Islands League and that didn't disrupt the flow of the show at all. It's such an insane contrivance with almost no benefit to the overall story or plot.

>>27898493

Nintendo nothing. I'm fucking telling you that in order to get the desire you want out of this, the way to do it is to actually IGNORE THEIR FUCKING VIDEO

DISLIKES

DO

NOTHING

>>27898417
>implying Nintendo won't ignore the dislikes and make Sticker Star 3 and Fed Force 2

Did Fed Force release yet? What's the verdict if so?

>>27898404
>He's good at pulling strategies in the moment and analyzing the battlefield to take advantage of it.
This is why he beat Viola in one try, or told Greninja to dodge Charizard signature move, right? I could make a list of times where Ash lost because he couldn't figure out why he was being bitch slapped, or the times he had to rematch because he couldn't come up with anything at the moment.

>>27895463
we reaching the call of ghostbusters infinity baby official trailer 2016 ft ludacris.

>>27898554
He was getting used to the new region for the first one, and you and me know the writers are at fault for the later. Specially when you saw him block the blast burn with a normal shuriken few minutes before.

>>27896498
Not outright stating it would be like this, but:
>Sun and Moon comes out and the Alolan trials and Totem pokemon and whatever the fuck is the ultimate challenge to slightly parallel the region's e4&champion are considered to be the hardest challenges in the game out of the entire Pokemon series.
>Ash beats them all, using strategies that would actually be viable to use in the game with some of the viewers' translation of the Anime's real time combat into the game's turn based combat.
I doubt the writers would actually do this, but I do hope the games turn out to be hard af.

>>27898594
>Specially when you saw him block the blast burn with a normal shuriken few minutes before
This just proves how retarded Ash is. Ash is only good at battling in your headcanon, in the actual anime, he is retarded.

>spics got so mad the result of the match is literally news material in countries like Chile and Brazil
https://omelete.uol.com.br/series-tv/noticia/pokemon-ash-e-derrotado-na-liga-oficial-pela-sexta-vez-no-anime/
http://moda.com.pe/noticias/tecnologia/pokemon-go-ash-volvio-a-perder-liga-pokemon-23733
http://www.adnradio.cl/noticias/sociedad/desastre-en-kalos-ash-perdio-su-primera-final-de-liga-pokemon/20160818/nota/3220513.aspx

>spics even made opinion articles about it
http://elcomercio.pe/tvmas/series/pokemon-que-paso-ash-final-liga-kalos-noticia-1925142
http://es.gizmodo.com/ash-acaba-de-tener-el-combate-de-su-vida-en-pokemon-xyz-1785443411

Meanwhile, TV Tokyo's video has 27 000 dislikes and twitter is still on rampage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eAm7XADWAQ

>>27898598
They will be handholding you through the whole game and the """"challenges"""" will certainly be piss easy. Pokémon has gone to shit.

It really is stupid though. They could have ended the Ashnime series on a high note, last series done and dusted.

Then just start Alola with a new protag and his Mimikyu. And of course, you have the inevitable appearance of Ash in one episode, now as a legitimately great trainer who inspires new kid to find strength in friendship and all that crap.

>>27898661
>omelete uol
>an actual news source
I am brazilian and I am happy to see that most comments are talking about how he deserved it, and anyone who expected more is delusional.

>>27898417
>Oh wait, you are being serious.jpg

>>27898660
If anything I think the writers just wanted to pull an "all or nothing" he launched the ultimate shuriken in exchange to don't defend at all, even if the smart thing to do would have been blocking the blast burn again and then launching the shuriken, they thought it looked cooler if there was a big impact of the 2 ultimate attacks.

>>27897551
he had shit team in BW

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>>27898783
>I am brazilian

>>27898661
Come on writers, it's time to realize you fucked up, the whole world is mad.

>>27897508

Amuro hasn't been riding the RX-78-2 for 50 years straight getting stalled at Solomon every time the Feds try to push in.

>>27898806
>it's not Ash's fault! It's the bad writers!
Ash being retarded is canon. Not a single season this was different, including XY.

>>27896789
Its been noted as Gredinja's Z-move called (Rainbow Gredinja) in the Sun and Moon Leaks

>>27898930
Again, big gap between retarded and smart, he's in a middle point.

>>27898417
Why do people hate paper Mario now?

>>27899039
Have you been living under a rock since sticker star came out?

>>27898527
Negative response from social media does plenty in this day and age and the proof is how often these companies go into complete damage control afterward. They know they fucked up from the responses and that's better than pretending nothing happened. They are not fishing for youtube bucks.

>>27899039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JBbcaLsyZI

>>27896498
I'm not watching the anime for another 15 years just like I did before the Internet told me Ash would win

>>27898996
And again, he is only not retarded in your headcanon. The first thing an average person would have done was taking a good look at all pokemons he sent to Oak and make a good team out of that. And he even knew what some of his competitors were capable of.

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>>27896823
Ashes to Ashes
This show sure does love seeing Ash get burned by a Charizard.

yet no comments?

>>27895731
You know that's just some twitter retard being too dumb to check that the writer has been on the show since fucking early Kanto, right?

>>27899148
You know perfectly well why he used this team, don't play dumb.

>>27899196
Because he is retarded. If he was smart, he wouldn't be the protagonist.

An anime of a guy who takes their time to look up how good a pokemon actually is in battle, and doesn't care about capturing new pokemons just because they are new wouldn't sell, they need a retarded protagonist who would make dumb choices, so they made ash.

>>27899333
Trips confirm.

>>27896909
Actually in the new movie i believe Charlie Brown did get the red haired girl.

The only real excuse is that we're not the shows demographic anymor, so we're not suppose to care about a 20 year winning or losing streak. To all the 5-13 year olds watching the show this is only the first (or second) time they've seen Ash fail.

>>27897991
That's a meme.

>>27899069
Regarding this yeah. I just have the original first one

>>27899542
Probably for the best. You should check out TTYD on the gamecube though. It's a pretty great game.

First Bleach, then Pokemon. Hahaha.

>>27899333
Anon, it's just bad writing. That's literally all it is. It's a pile of contrivances piled up on top of one another just for the sake of preserving a status quo that doesn't benefit the show in any way. Ash was battling extremely well up until this latest episode, "HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE RETARDED" isn't the reason why he lost.

NIGGAS, YOU CAN DO A COMMENT IN THE VIDEO

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>>27899039
Nintendo made Paper Mario on the 64 and it was great.

Then they made TTYD on the Gamecube and it was also great, arguably better than the original (though some disagree).

Then they made Super Paper Mario, which was really different (it was a platformer) and it was controversial, but still not a bad game on its own.


Nintendo killed the series with Sticker Star though, which was a dumbed down RPG compared to the first two, with no new characters (the characters that aren't generic toads can be counted with one hand), Bowser being almost nonexistant personality-wise, and pointless gameplay. You attack with cards that go away after a use, but they removed the experience system entirely, so the only benefit you get from fighting enemies is getting coins that you can only spend on cards after already using up cards to defeat them in the first place, so it's quicker and more efficient to run away from all non-boss encounters since you get nothing from fighting. It was bad.


Now Nintendo is making Paper Mario:Color Splash, which is exactly the same as Sticker Star with all the same problems. Nintendo completely ignored all the criticism given by their fans and are creating a game nobody will buy, because it's exactly like the last game and nobody liked the last game.

>>27899333
He was beating Alain in the first part. Ash isn't retarded. The plot will always cuck him regardless of what he does.

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>>27896498
>It ends up being WORSE than Best Wishes

>>27895463
Hahaha
Ash is a LOSER

>>27898550
Out tomorrow apparently

>>27895609
>>27895892
>>27896106


Since no one has linked any proof of japan shitting on the writers for this outcome, I'm going to assume that part was made up and this is all americans and /vp/ (understandably) shitting on the writers. I'll eat those words though if anyone can link some proof that Japan's also bashing on this (from 2ch or twitter).

>>27900136
Check twitter and 2chan

>>27900136
Search it yourself

>>27900169
>>27900191

What tags am I supposed to use? #サトシ gets me nothing major for some reason.

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>>27896498
Greninja kills himself for being such a shameful mon

almost 30k

>>27895463
Fuck off manchild.
Ash deserved to lose. Bitch has CUT on a pokemon in the grand finale and even used it.

He also has a fucking digimon tier meme frog with garbage powers that shouldn't even exist.

I'm glad Ash lost. I'll write a thank you letter to the studio to thank them actually.

>>27900136
https://twitter.com/hashtag/anipoke?src=hash

>>27900225
#anipoke
@pokemon_cojp
@TVtokyo_PR

>>27896547
This

>>27899636
>Ash was battling extremely well
You need to check up on what you consider "extremely well".

>>27899935
>He was beating Alain in the first part. Ash isn't retarded
Managing to beat half of the Alain pokemons doesn't mean that a person isn't retarded. Also, Alain has a team of pokemons for the sake of it, since he mostly only shows using his charizard.

It's like ant man beating up falcon and saying that he was doing extremely well against the avengers, and if he ever lost to Hulk is because of bad writing.

>>27900284
>>27900288
Thanks! I'll gladly eat my words now.

getting worked up over a cartoon

goddamnit guys...


btw, ''20 years'' and Ash still looks the fucking same

So he's basically going from what? Never a birthday, never anything. Apparently he travelled through 6 regions in 1 year, despite winters passing etc.

But nooo, you are mad because ''he lost''.

>>27899935
>Ash isn't retarded
>literally uses cut

kek

>>27900314
Ant Man probably could beat the Hulk.

>>27899935

>Ash isn't retarded
>Brings 3 literally who's to a battle instead of 3 of his powerhouses that he always relies on for major battles

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>>27900331
Don't bother, you'll just get a lot of vitriol.
The only people who are upset are eternal manchildren aged 25+ who just refuse to let go of their childhood and still cling and self insert into Ash.

They're a truly pathetic lot who try to turn this anime into something it isn't. It's nothing more than a tie-in to sell games and merch. There's a new target audience of 10-12 year olds every few years who are meant to watch this and learn a lesson about accepting defeat and moving on.

But no, we have all these pimple faced burrito tanks on /vp/ and the internet in general who go apeshit over this. As if this show ever had well written characters or a good story to begin with.

>>27897992

It ended, today.

Basically, shipping brings out the worst in everyone.

>>27900331

He's had an anniversary with Pikachu.

From Pallet town to the start of the Silver League, AT LEAST one year had passed.

>>27895463
But wasn't it your fault for thinking Ash would ever win?

He loses the League, stays single, never boxes Pikachu and never has his 11th birthday. These things are all baked into the premise at this point.

>>27900284
I'm not seeing that much salt. There are more people just hyped and stuff than complaining about bad writers and how ash should have won.

>>27898510
Someone shop ash and greninja on this

>>27900402
5 literally who's, Pikachu did all the work

>>27900464

>never has his 11th birthday

He's had his 1 year anniversary with Pikachu, he's DEFINITELY had his 11th birthday back in Johto or earlier. So Ash is perpetually 11.

>>27900464
But why make him get to the finals if he's gonna lose? Why give him synchrofrog? Why make him lose against the same person 3 times? It doesn't make sense.

>>27900509
Eternally 10 years old, says the narrator.

>>27900509
They call him 10 in I think Unova, so that Johto thing was probably retconned.

>>27900536
>But why make him get to the finals if he's gonna lose?

Why not? Are you dumb?

>>27900493

That's a fair assessment. It took fucking 4 of Ash's Pokemon to beat 3 of Alain's pokemon that any of Ash's other major powerhouses would have 3-0'd.

>>27900402
even if ash still brought his power houses the writers would still make them lose somehow

>>27900536
Why does he ever compete at all if he's going to lose? To show that he has a goal and to prove that winning isn't everything.

Why give him synchro frog? Yeah, got me there. That was a mistake.

Why make him lose against the same person three times in a row? To show how much further he has to go and, again, to show that winning isn't everything.

>>27900564
All the other times nobody expected him to win, why give the audience the hope? Only to make it worse when he loses and create this backslash that doesn't benefit anyone.

>>27900549
>>27900546

>Ash is 4ever 10

WHAT THE LITERAL FUCK NARRATOR

https://youtu.be/xRnPRTTZvcs?t=74

HE'S LITERALLY BEEN WITH PIKACHU FOR AT LEAST A YEAR

FUCKING NARRATING BULLSHIT

>>27896498
>ash is actually older
>takes along old pokemon with him and doesn't lose to complete noobs
>releases greninja
>has a battle against ya boi at some point

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>>27896782
You madman.

>>27900589
You can manage to win something and still have the message "winning isn't everything". Ash can win some leagues and lose others. To be honest, having him lose every one kind of diminishes the effect of that message.

>>27900589
But rivals are never left without being defeated. Yeah, winning isn't everything but there wasn't any legitimate reason why he shouldn't win this time.

>>27897216
The simpsons doesn't cock tease Bart going to college then take it away at the final moment

>>27900362
You're kidding, right? In one of the comics, ant man got small enough to enter hulk an tried to kill him from inside, but he was as tough inside as he is outside, so he had to quit and Hulk never knew this happened. What do you think ant man could possibly do to beat hulk?

>>27900624
To show that he's getting better.

He will win one day. That day is the final season. That's the one he will win.

>>27900672
He'll beat Alan during the Flare arc to redeem himself and Greninjash.

As for legit reason, I guess that's the writing team's way of giving him an excuse to go to a ne region. He'll keep trying his luck somewhere new.

I'm not saying it's great writing. I'm saying that it's part of the formula at this point. Ash doesn't win Pokemon League tournaments. If he ever does, it's the final season.

>>27900729
Why? It doesn't have to end if he wins once, there is the elite 4 and champion left.

>>27900634
But isn't that an invention of the dub?

>>27900741
There is no reason for him to not go to the next region if he wins a league.

>>27897992
People are upset that the main male and main female characters didn't fuck.

>>27897823
This is my exact stance on it.

The anime isn't worth watching as long as the status quo stays the same.

>>27900451
>shipping
good god that's idiotic

>>27900576
Yeah, no.

Pikachu is on Mega Charizard X's level, while Charizard and Snorlax are just barely short of it.

Ash has several other pokemon that would have contributed far more to the fight than his 3 deadweights.

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>>27895463
foolish for them to believe even for a second it would happen
>it's been 20 years

>>27900672
He lost because the writers realized ashninja is cancer that should have never existed and they need an excuse to oak it

>>27896782
Fucking kek

>>27900672

>there wasn't any legitimate reason why he shouldn't win this time

How about because Zard X is easily the strongest normal pokemon we've seen, Alain's been training with him forever, and Ash decided to bring in a fucking Noivern and Goodra?

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>>27896782
holy shit

>>27898521
Orange Island is filler so Ash winning that is meaningless.

>>27900858
And that's enough for him to tank the shuriken to the face and beating the frog with a fire type move?

>>27898490
Except we actually consume the content we want to change and aren't doing it for an unrelated agenda

(You)

>>27900819
The writers would have still made ash lose no matter what. Reminder that darkrai vs heracross fight Ash had the advantage and the skill to counter Darkrai and still lost.

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My biggest issue with Ash losing to Alain is not so much that Ash lost the League championship, but that he loses to Alain over and over and over again every time they battle. TV Tokyo makes such a huge fucking deal over hyping up all these Ash vs. Alain episodes but really what's the point if they all follow the exact same predictable pattern with the exact same outcome?

If you're gonna have a guy losing to his rival that many times, there has to be some fucking pay-off like there was with Paul and Trip.

>>27900935
The payoff is them teaming up to take on Lysandre

It teaches kids (the target audience) a good lesson, too: Even if you lose, it doesn't mean you have to hate the other guy or give up

>>27900935
You know this wasn't the XY finale and that Alan is playing a major role in the upcoming Flare arc, right?

>>27900781
Stay and defend his championship

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I'm so disgusted right now. To me I'm not furious because Ash lost, (which I still am by the way) it's the fact he lost to a freaking Charizard. TPCI is always freaking pandering to this Charizard worship thing they have here. They keep shoving that damn pokemon freaking everywhere. Genwunners won't shut up about it since they always say it's the strongest pokemon ever, ugggh. -.- It gets TWO MEGAS, and its most likely that Charizard will be the only pokemon we can fly with in Sun/Moon with that new feature. "Ride your favorite Pokemon" my ass. Can we stop this pandering and put focus on other pokemon equally goddammit?! I'm done. There's no hope here.

Everyone, even Japan is freaking furious at this asspull. I''m seriously done. I'm don't care about the Sun/Moon anime cause I'm not gonna watch it. Serena's gonna get her ass dumped at Kalos so Amourshipping isn't gonna happen or really mattered at all and they're going to keep repeating the same damn cliches in this anime with no actual change.

>>27900929

Had the writers made Ash lose while having all his major fighters, then we'd have a legit complaint.

They didn't.

Ash brought in 2 inexperienced pokemon, one who was completely out of his league, a fire bird who pales in comparison to his fire dragon, jobberfrog, and Pikagod. Ash is just an idiot, and Pikagod can only do so much when the rest of his team shits the bed.

>>27900990
He needs to beat the Elite 4 and champion first, he can beat a league without beating those.

>>27900935
He'll probably square off with Alan at the end of the Flare arc and beat him there.

>>27900877
Whether or not its filler is pretty irrelevant. Ash managed to win a league, and the story proceeded as normal.

>>27900908

Why does everyone think Charizard X can't tank Water Shuriken? He's not weak to it, and the Shuriken sure isn't stronger than MEGA BLASTOISE'S FUCKING HYDRO CANNON.

Seriously, have you never seen Alain outside of this episode? Charizard X is a fucking BEAST, and the only hope Ash had of beating him was Pikachu, who he used up against the other two psudos.

>>27900908
He defeated a bunch of Mega pokemons AND an elite 4 fire-type pokemon with his Charizard. And Malva's Houndoom was even powered up by charizard fire attack, and I don't know if you remember, but fire resists fire as much as water.

>>27900999
Jesus Christ. Ash is 10. Way too young to be hooking up with anyone.

So of course he'll send her off while he goes to Alola and finds some new traveling partners. This is the Pokemon formula. Are you new to it?

I have a theory that the Pokemon world is a slowly revolving planet so it takes 20 years for one year there.

>>27901006
would you really? Because I feel like it would end up the same way how it ended here. Endless shitposting.

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>there are people who watch the pokémon anime for something other than to see cool new pokemon animated in the weekly "here's this new pokemon" episode as well as to fap to hot pokégirls like dawn, may, jasmine etc.

What is wrong with you?

>>27900908
Yeah and he took two dragon claw from Zard X.

>>27901050
Did you see the size of that shuriken? It wasn't a normal shuriken, it was all his power put into it.

>>27901053
Malva is not stronger than the frog.

>>27900908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXm4V2SJm-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMyUJBON8Yc

Alain's Zard has solo'd literal teams of Megas, and taken direct hits from Primal Groudon.

There's NOTHING Greninja could have done to him.

>>27901134
You can only have one Mega per team, and resisting an attack doesn't mean his power is close to a legendary.

>>27901131
Tell me exactly where was stated that greninja 200% is stronger than Alain Charizard 100%

>>27901131

>Did you see the size of that shuriken? It wasn't a normal shuriken, it was all his power put into it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDaXh7Dd3gY

Mega Zard can fucking TANK AND FLY THROUGH a Mega Blastoise's Hydro Pump. He sure as fuck can take on Frog's shuriken.

>>27901170
So you are saying that Greninja attacks are even stronger than Primal Groudon? fucking please.

>>27901131
>It wasn't a normal shuriken, it was all his power put into it.

It's fucking garbage that shouldn't exist, just like ashgreninja itself

This is pokemon. Pokemon doesn't have "put all your power into it and suddenly you do a super special version of your normal attack"

No, that's not how it works. Stick to what the game has you fucking fags

>>27901170
Primal Groudon's Precipice Blades would normally KILL a regular Pokemon.

Mega Zard fucking Tanked it even though he was type weak to it.

>>27901195
A Mega is not a synchro.

>>27901224
Not any attack, that specific ultimate Shuriken.

>>27901254
I don't care, if they hyped that shuriken for months since the trailer came out, don't make it job.

>>27901260
Pokemon don't die in the anime. On screen.

they dun even care wat we think 2bh
all this shit will end in 2-3 weeks

>>27901265
>A Mega is not a synchro.

Fine, show us where it says Synchro's are stronger than Mega's.

>>27901308
synchros should not exist
they need to go

>>27901260
lmao he didn't tank shit, he got fucking owned by that attack.

>>27901265
You are not really understanding the difference in strenght between a measle synchro greninja and fucking primal groudon.

One of them is akin to a god, and can burn the world by merely existing, and the other can't fucking win a league.

>>27901308
They're rarer and unique. Sycamore said it rarely happens and only counted trainers accomplished it.

>>27901292
>i don't care, it should have worked because i say so!

>>27901362
You don't get that Charizard didn't really do anything to groudon either way, so tanking attacks from him don't prove the frog is weaker.

>>27901372
shinies are rarer and more unique as well but aren't any stronger than standard mons

>>27900634
That is from a movie.
Isn't it stated back before Indigo league that had been one year since Ash left as well? I recall people saying that but I never went back to check.

They never mention birthday or his age, just that an amount of time has passed.

Ash shouldn't win until he realizes how typings work, when to use what move and to bring actually strong pokemon, not some garbage

>>27901372

So are shinies, and that means jack shit.

Show me where it says that Synchro Greninja is stronger than Mega Blastoise (who's trained by the Champion of the Elite 4).

>>27901404
By your logic, Charizard should not tank greninja shuriken even though it withstood primal groudon attack.

It's like saying that he should be knocked out by a bitch slap when he survived a plane crash.

>>27901470
Charizard didn't beat that one, and he lost against a dragon pulse of that.

>>27901527
Fainting and dying are 2 different things. He should have fainted from the frog attack, surviving groudon doesn't mean anything.

>>27901450
>Isn't it stated back before Indigo league that had been one year since Ash left as well? I recall people saying that but I never went back to check.
Dub line with no Japanese equivalent. Late Kanto was pretty heavily rewritten in the dub

>>27901527
He didn't withstand the attack at all, he got his ass beat fucking hard. Nigga almost died.

>>27901528

Did you not watch the fucking video?

Charizard fucking took a Hydro Pump full on and flew through it with no issue.

The only reason he lost was because Dragon Pulse is both: A. Super Effective against Charizard X and B. Powered up by Mega Blastoise's ability.

You're seriously trying to say that Charizard shouldn't be able to tank Special Water Shuriken when he literally brushed off Hydro Pump from a much stronger pokemon?

>>27901550
>>27901607
did it faint from groudon's attack?

>>27898453
Are you me?

>>27900990
Dianta is the champ.

>>27901650
Hydro pump is neutral and it wasn't with all the inside power of blastoise like the shuriken was.

>>27901681
>>27901607
>>27901550

It got seriously injured from a super effective base 120 power attack running off a 180 base attack stat.

He didn't actually faint.

Either way, nothing Mega Greninja did is stronger than Mega Blastoise's HP, which Charizard DID tank.

>>27900935
Wouldn't it be more predictable if Ash won his final battle against Alain like any shonen protagonist would do? Having him lose when tropes would suggest otherwise is more innovative when you think about it. :^)

>>27901738
The HP wasn't that strong.