Which gen had the best starters? Which gen had the worst?

Gen 2 best
Gen 1 worst

Gen 2
Gen 6

1, 3, and 4 were the best.

2 is meh

5 and 6 fucking suck

>>27890011
3/6 best
5 worst
2 is redeemed only by totodile line
1/4 ehh

>>27890011
4 and 6 are best

2 has bland, bland, and had an interesting concept in the mid evo but evolved into bland
5 was okay but 3rd Fire/Fighting and no dual types for the other two killed it among fans

>>27890061
Gen II had the best, while gen V had the worst. Emboar is a mistake.

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Best - 3
Worst - 5

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>>27890011
1 and 4 are best
2 is close behind
6 is okay
3 and 5 are absolute shit tier

2 was a lot better with the old art style.

>>27890134
Your dad not pulling out was a mistake

Gen 5 has the worst and it's not close.

>pokabu is cute
>turns into a shit monster

>>27890184
blaziken looks stupid

Gen 5 is the worst

My favourite generation but the worst starters

Best is Gen 1
Worst is 5 or 6

Gen 2 best looking starters

Gen 5 ugliest ones

Gen 2 and 4 were the best
6 was the worst
though every starter has redeemable qualities, except Chesnaught

Gen 1 is okay, but too generic (sameface syndrome, simple designs besides Venu)
Gen 2 is okay too, but even though Typhlosion is one of my fav mons, I'd say objectively it's one of the weakest starter gens.
Gen 3 was amazing, I like every single one of them.
Gen 4 somehow managed to beat 3, I'd say it's the best.
Gen 5 was terrible, if those mons weren't starters, I wouldn't even use them. I'd say it's the weakest. Preevos are good, though.
Gen 6 is the one I didn't like at first, but grew on me a lot. I love Delphox and Greninja, and Chesnaught is nice, too.
4 > 3 > 6 (>7?) > 1 = 2 > 5

>>27890061
Gen 3 starters are ridiculous and cartooney.
Their stage 3 forms are laughable and overrated by gen 3 faggots like you.
>>27890189
Conpletely agreed.

Gen 1: all three are great
Gen 2: 2/3 are good, one is bad
Gen 3: all three are decent
Gen 4: 2/3 are decent, one is very good
Gen 5: 2/3 are bad, one is decent
Gen 6: 2/3 are bad, one is good

Gen 1: best
Gen 5: worst

>>27890152
I'd say Gen 7 starts with a 7/10 or 8/10

>>27890011
5>2>4>1>3>6

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>>27890011
6 best
1 worst

>>27890101
>6
>Best
>5
>Worst
Shit taste confirmed.

1 - 3/3
2 - 2/3
3 - 3/3
4 - 2/3
5 - 0/3
6 - 2/3

>>27890152
>Calls everything that he doesn't like edgy
>Thinks gen one is perfect.
Faggot.

There is literally nothing wrong with Chesnaught you fucking losers bet you wanted a 4th turtle with a plant on top of it

>>27890339
This. All of the starters are at least decent except him.

>>27890011
>Gen 1
Iconic, simple
>Gen 2
Cooler
>Gen 3
Cuter first then cooler in evos
>Gen 4
Less cool still cute (most awkward looking second forms award)
>Gen 5
Worst designs/concepts. One is clearly more visually appealing than the others.
>Gen 6
Back to cute with a nice theme for the 3

In my opinion based on designs alone
1=3>2>4>6>5

Best is 2 or 3. Worst if 5 by a fucking mile.

>>27890610
Don't forget he also calls Swampert a "frog".

4=6>2=1>5>shit>more shit>3

>>27890595
Besides gen 2 being a 3/3 for me I agree completely. I would call this excellent taste, but I don't know who is missing.

In my case Primape would be missing from gen 4, and Chesnaught would be missing from gen 6.

You can always tell who the Hoennbabies are because they're the only ones who defend the Gen 3 abomination that is Blaziken

>>27890797
Blaziken is definitely in my bottom 2 of final evolutions

>>27890797
>Blaziken
>The Martial arts bird
>bad

What? It's easily better than shit like infernape, emboar and arguably Delphox.
What are you smoking?

Infernape>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fat pig>>>Blazishit

>>27890797
24 year old dude here, started with red and blue.

I think Blaziken is good-ish. To me it just seems like one of those mons that got really popular, and therefore people started to hate it.

4
7

Blaziken is ugly, Mega Blaziken is much better looking.

>>27890889
>there are people that defend infernape
Are sinnohcucks truly this lacking in taste?

Top 3 fire evos are objectively:
Charizard, Typhlosion and Blaziken

4 is best
3 is worst

>>27890968
I think so too, although I prefer Combusken to both of them.

>>27890896
You don't need to start with RSE to be a Hoennbaby, you just need to be stupid enough to like this abomination.

>/vp/ hates the gen 5 starters

Why?

>>27891059
Charizard>Infernape>Typlosion>Emboar>Blaziken>Delphox*

>>27890524
>because others cannot have an opinion different than mine, and therefore it is shit
go kys

>>27891079
they ugly

>>27890152
Once again the middle evolutions are left out despite being the best part of many of the lines

>>27891079
Stupidly busy designs

>>27891079
Their designs are too complex and kind of shitty.

Why does the snake have legs? Why does Oshawatt need a seashell? Tepig is whatever.

When they evolve they still look weird as fuck and like a downgrade of other ideas.

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>>27890152
lmao its time people start using the REAL designs when referencing typlosion's line instead of the botched sprites and artwork that have the fire constantly out

so bland

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>Tfw this is a beauty contest..

Gen 4 best starters, all well rounded and have entertaining move sets.

Gen 3 and 5, tied for worst stat development

6 and 4

2 the worst. All single type. 5 not far behind. Not a single new type combination and 2 of them being single type and one of them having Fire/Fighting after the two previous gens also having them.

>>27891272
>caring about stats
LMAO

>>27891296
>Autism is on maximum overdrive

>>27890152
>basically perfect designs
>WARTORTLE evolves into BLASTOISE, dropping literally everything interesting about it any any direction it was headed

1 and 3 are the best. 6 is the worst. The rest are varying degrees of okay.

>>27890011
Unpopular opinion time

4>>1>3>>6>>>>>5>2

They all kind of suck though.

>>27891272
Are you kidding? I agree with almost all of what you said but gen 3 starters were good. HA or not Blaziken was godly, and Swampert/Sceptile was good

By my estimations the middle evolution is the best looking evolution for 11/18 existing lines so far

>>27891002
I wouldn't be surprised if Infernapefags and memefrogfags were the ones shitting on Blaziken and Charizard respectively tbqh, the insecurity is strong.

>>27891002
>Typhlosion
How boring.

Gen 1, 3, 4 the best

Gen 2, 5, 6 the worst

>>27891499
Blaziken is trash, stop trying to group that pathetic pile of trash with the GOAT starter.

Gen 1: They're all fantastic.
Gen 2: Chikorita is shit, Cyndaquil and Totodile are great.
Gen 3: They're all fantastic.
Gen 4: They're all fantastic.
Gen 5: They're all absolute garbage.
Gen 6: Greninja is fantastic, the rest are garbage.
Gen 7: Archowl is great, the rest are garbage.

I'd say Gen 1 > Gen 3 > Gen 4 >> Gen 2 >> Gen 7 > Gen 6 > Gen 5

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Can anti-Blazikenfags explain why they hate blaziken?

I can specifically pinpoint why I think infernape or Delphox look kind of bad in comparison to others.

But I dont see what's to hate about this Karate kick bird. Are you mad about the furfags?

>>27891626
You misplaced 3 and 6

>>27891662
People give Samurott and Blastoise shit for completely abandoning the direction that its pre-evos were going in, but not Blaziken?

>>27891662
Fire/fighting, not flying type... Also does not learn low kick or seismic toss

>>27891662
For me it's the "hair" pointing downwards. I like the mega's design better.

But I don't exactly hate it, I just find the design unappealing.

>>27891738
>people give Blastoise shit

In what? Bizarro /vp/?

>>27891044
>you are stupid if you like this thing I don't like for no reason.

Are you going to tell me I'm stupid for not seeing why next? I am genuinely curious what makes people hate it. Also gen 3 is not my favorite gen either, if that helps.

>>27891079
They all look weird to me.

The snivy line has a lot of details trying to make it look majestic or elegant but ends up looking like an awkward and over-designed line with a ugly color scheme.

Tepig is super bland and does nothing to stand out compared to the fire fighters before it. It's just kind of boring.

The oshawott line doesn't know what it wants to be. The middle stage of a starter is supposed to bridge the gap between cute starter and awesome final form, but dewott looks nothing like samurott.
It goes from being bipedal to quadrupedal(and has a sword for some reason). The seashell samurai weapons become a huge clunky hat?

I love gen 5, but it is the only gen I box my starters. I hate the legendaries too, but that's another matter.

best is gen 2

worst is gen 4

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>that one vocal anti gen 3 guy
>all these different anons putting gen 3 designs in the top half

>>27890011
Best: 4th generation.
3 A+ designs and two unique typings. It has a fucking steel type in this gen, and all three are very viable in game. Competitive play atleast two are good. Not everything about this gen was good of course but the starters were spot on perfect.
Worst: 5th
Least appealing designs and very uninteresting typings, revealed the third fucking fire/fighting in the row for no reason, all have no business being in competitive play except for smugleaf having an op ability.
in order
gen 4 > gen 1 > gen 3 > gen 2 > gen 6 > gen 5

>>27890011
Best: Gen VI
Worst: Gen IV

>>27890011
I feel like consensus is that 5th is the worst.

No absolute clear winner but gen 4 is doing well, considering it isn't nostalgia biased.

>>27892104
Not nostalgia based? Gen 4 was 10 years ago, there are plenty of people here who are in the age range where that's a nostalgia blast for them.

>>27890061
u rite

>>27891812
Read the thread

>>27890011
Worst of each Gen:
1 Bulba Line
2 Chiqrita Line
3 Tough one but Mudkip probably
4 Another tough one by Chimchar imo
5 Grass snake forgot its name
6 ALL OF THEM

Gen 4 and 6 is worst
Gen 3 and 5 is best

>first forms
Gen 2 a best, gen 5 a worst

>last forms
Gen 4 a best, gen 6 a worst

>>27891079
The designs are ok, but 2 pure types and another Fire/Fighting really makes it hard to like them

>>27891626

your post is garbage.

>>27890011
I think 4 is the best overall

although i have a softspot for 3 probably purely because they where my first gams

2 best
5 worst

>>27893281
*games, jesus christ

Gen 4 had the best. Torterra consistently wins best Starter in most polls on here and I'm inclined to agree. Gen's 3 and 1 were pretty good too.

Gen 2 easily had the worst. Bland mono-type blobs with no real idea or design behind them that all start to suck pretty quickly. Chikorita line is the worst offender, Totodile line is okay.

5 and 6 are generally just the same. I honestly can't comment on them because they feel the most subjective.

>>27890011
1-4 are great, 5 is meh, 6 is shit.

>>27890011
Gen 2
Gen 7

best gen 2
worst gen 4

>>27891251
This Typhlosion makes it my least favourite starter, but GSC/HGSS Typhlosion is great. 3D was a mistake.

Gen 4.

It was the first and only generation where I honestly loved all three starters and all three final evolutions.

4
7 (if the starter leaks are real)

>>27891499
Blaziken and Memefrog are shit. Infernape and Charizard are good.

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>>27891626
Wow your taste is horrible. You hate Chikorita, love Blaziken/Sceptile, love Typhlosion, love gen 1, hate all gen 5 starters, think Greninja is fantastic, and think the other gen 7 starters are garbage. Just plain garbage.

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>>27890152
>Gen 1
>10/10
>Gen 3
>6/10

>>27891662
>Can anti-Blazikenfags explain why they hate blaziken?
>humanoid
>4 claws on a "bird"
>retarded hair
A bigger Combusken would have been 10/10 instead of THAT thing

>>27892488
Horrible, let me fix this (although I still like some of these)
Worst of each Gen:
1. Squirtle
2. Cyndaquil
3. Torchic
4. Turtwig
5. Tepig (still like)
6. Chespin

>>27890061
pretty much agree

>>27893648
>You hate Chikorita
It's the worst starter competitively and its design is just a goofier Venusaur.

>love Blaziken/Sceptile
I don't "love" Blaziken. I think it's a well-designed Pokémon. And so is Sceptile. But let me guess, you think they look like trash because they're both immensiely popular, right?

>love Typhlosion
Again, I don't "love" Typhlosion, it looks great, that's it.

>hate all gen 5 starters
Because despite the gen's extremely good designs, the starters were not part of them. And most of /vp/ agrees.

>love gen 1

I think it's the worst gen. I just like all of the starters. Also, stop being a contrarian, there's nothing wrong with liking genwun.

>think Greninja is fantastic
It's legitimately a good design. One of the few Gen 6 did well along with Klefki and Aegislash.

>and think the other gen 7 starters are garbage
I actually loved Litten and Popplio, not my fault their final evos turned out like shit.

You're just a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. I bet you can't even name a reason as to why you hate those designs besides them being popular Pokemon. You are literally disgusting.

In order of best to worst:
- Gen 1 (are ya'll who say otherwise are edgy faggots)
- Gen 3 (I'm bias because Ruby was my first Pokemon game)
- Gen 2 (Only because of Feraligatr)
- Gen 4 (Good designs but somewhat forgettable)
- Gen 6 (Greninja is the only redeeming quality)
- Gen 5 (Just plain forgettable across the board)

First impressions of Alola starters I would put them third between Gen 3 and Gen 2, I can't put my finger on it but something about them makes me more excited about them than I've been about any of the other Gen 4-onwards starters. It brings back those classic Pokemon feelings. We'll see if it holds up.

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I think we can all agree on this one.

Best: 1,4
Worst: 5,6
Forgettable: 2,3

OBJECTIVE OPINION TIME

3>1>4=2>6>>>>>>>>>garbage>>>>>>5

>>27890011
Gen 3 best
Gen 4 worst

>>27893932
>putting Swampert below Blaziken, Torterra and fucking Empoleon

Swampert belongs in High Tier, other than that it's fair enough except maybe Typhlosion and Empoleon should be switched.

Why do you faggots like Empoleon so much?

>>27890011
Why is Marshstomp eating Mudkip?

>>27893932
>greninja that high
>Swampert that low
>Veusaur over Blastoise
>Empoleon over Typhlosion

There's so much wong here it hurts.
Right about bottom tier though

>>27893932
meganium dont deserve that

nothing should be on the same tier as fatfirepig

>>27894057
>Swampert belongs in High Tier
Bellsprout used Vine Whip! Swampert fainted!

Best: Gen 3/4
Worst: 5 but I don't hate them

>>27894203
how's that non-mega charizard working out for you competitively?

>>27890011
Best: 1
Worst: 7

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>>27893932
That one is truly trash and of poor taste
I fixed it for you
Swampert is my all-time favorite so I'm not too biased I'd say

>>27893802
>I actually loved Litten and Popplio, not my fault their final evos turned out like shit

Ebin.

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6 is worst
rivals starter in yellow is best

>>27890011
Probably my nostalgia talking, but I have a hard time saying anything but Gen 1 for best. It's the only gen where I love all three.

Gen 3 are the worst, only Gen where I don't really like any of the final forms.

1 - 2/3
2 - 2/3
3 - 3/3
4 - 2/3
5 - 0/3
6 - 2/3
7 - 2/3

>>27895760
Seriously, why does everyone like empoleon so much?

>>27890011
2 best
5 worst

>>27890011
5 is worst hands down
1 is probably best all around, although two is pretty good as well

>>27890152
Pretty much this except I hate serperior line and like greninja. Also Delphox isn't -that- bad.

>>27899252
I also love gen 1, but they final evos are kinda fat

>>27894187
Agreed. Meganium is elegant in its simplicity, one of the few moments where I agree with genuners.

But for no reason at all gf has been shitting on it, and it already has a middling master-of-none spread.

It's not just competitively the worst of the bunch, in game it's fallen so far behind any grass type can replace it.

>>27890011

Best: Gen 4
Worst: Gen 5

I ended up boxing Samurott in my black2 play through in favor of starmie

>>27900521
Needs a mega

>>27900558
Based

>>27890189
I can get behind this

>>27900521
adding another note, absolutely worthless hidden ability. Leaf gaurd doesn't have the decency of being like hydration, which heals all status. It just protects you. When the sun is up, which is already not a good situation for a grass type. And besides all that, meganium is already packing aroma therapy. So just why gf?

>>27890011
Gen 2 and gen 6 starters are both pretty darn nice.
Gen 5 starters are by far the worst.

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>>27891178
?

Gen 4 best
Gen 5 worst

speaking of middle evos,
some outshine their final by a lot. Wartortle, bayleaf, and braixen are all fantastic and get worse designs in evolution.

Braixen the worst offender of the three, it's design is the most clever of the bunch, working in all the witch references possible including the broom tail.
Then it just gets bigger and uglier and even losses what made it clever.

As for the worst... quilladin's gotta be on there. Which is sad because when I'm looking at the art the artist drew, I realize that a lot of it goes down to the dumbass expression it has on its face ingame. It isn't half bad when well drawn.
Combusken is fairly uggly, and croconaw isn't that bad so much as I don't undertand why it has a caveman theme to it and not its evo or preevo. The rest are fine to good.

>>27901720
I think Quiladin is the best of it's line personally. It's the only one I don't dislike.

>>27890011
I like all of them up till 5th and 6th gen. 2=1>3=4>6>5

>>27890011
1 and 5

>>27901867
I think quil and chesnaught are equally terrible, but chespin is fairly cute

Gen 1: All good

Gen 2: All good, but somehow look worse in 3d

Gen 3: All good except for Blaziken, what the fuck where they thinking with that shit design

Gen 4: All good

Gen 5: Samurott was a cool concept that didn't work and is kinda ugly, other 2 are cool but not as good as previous ones

Gen 6: Only Greninja is any good, other 2 are garbage.

>>27902749
I hate Chespin. To me it just looks like a generic cartoony body with a giant head. Nothing about it really sticks out or makes me like it.

Quiladin on the other hand is a bulky doofy ball. It looks like a dude in a chestnut, and I kind of like that.

To me Chetnaught's #1 issue is it looks skinny. Maybe it's the way the shell hags off it or the tubular limgs, but it just doesn't look as tough as it should.

>>27890011
I like everything in gen 1, everything in 2, and I like everything in Gen 3.

Gen 4, I don't care for Piplup or Turtwig at all.
Gen 5, everything but the Snivy line is mediocre or bad.
Gen 6, everyhting was good except for maybe Chestnaught.

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>>27902899
Are you me

Gen 3 had the best starters since Colosseum gave you Umbreon and Espeon.
Checkmate.

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>>27902929
Agree on Chesnaught being skinny. I also think a big problem is the constant T-pose it's usually in, pic related looks not as bad for example.

>>27903769
That does look better, I still think it would have worked better if he had the other half of his shell in front of him or something.

>>27890011
GOD TIER
Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Totodile, Treecko, Snivy, Froakie

OKAY TIER
Cyndaquil, Torchic, Mudkip, Piplup, Chespin

SHIT TIER
Chikorita, Chimchar, Turtwig, Tepig, Oshawott, Fennekin,

>>27890011
Taking every form into account
Gen 1 is the best
Gen 6 is the worst
Gen 5 comes close, but I really like Serperior so it's saved from last place.

Gen 3 ez

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>>27897439
I did a thing

1 - Memorable, but strange middle stages for Blastoise and Charizard.
2 - Cute beginnings, bland ending. Croconaw had a weird caveman like pattern.
3 - Blaziken fucked up the entire Torchic line. Sceptile had some weird design choices like those random yellow balls on his back. Swampert is great.
4 - Wukong, World Turtle and an Emperor Penguin, great final designs, rough beginning though.
5 - >another Fire/Fighting, starts off cute and then quickly gets ugly. Seperior should be in Kalos, but it's a good design. Samurott is shell on head retarded and Dewott was the only one in an otter Pokemon line that resembled an otter.
6 - Did we need another magical fox, at least it's not ugly but it is furbait? Tongue scarf is a lame excuse to show off it's a ninja. A chestnut was a shitty inspiration for a Pokemon and an even worse implementation of the concept.

Gen 1 > Gen 2 > Gen 4 > Gen 3 > Gen 6 > Gen 5

>>27891662
Blaziken genuinely looks like a Digimon. It looks like something along the V-Mon line.

>>27890122
>and no dual types for the other two
But that's just wrong.

Spicy opinions coming through

Gen2>Gen4>Gen1>Gen3>Gen6>Gen5

>>27890011
1 > 2 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 6

>>27901108
Combusken is the best in his line.

Gen 5 is the worst

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>>27890011
>best
3, objectively.
>worst
5, objectively.
>overall
3 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 2 > 5

>>27890152
>"too much humanoid"
>same amount of humanoid as gens 1, 2 and 4

Spot the Sinnohfetus.

>>27890152
I don't get the Emboar hate.

Sure, it's humanoid, which is usually shit, but it's done in a cartoony way. Bipedal isn't shit if it's done with a sci fi twist (Mewtwo, Scyther, Deoxys) or in a cartoony style (Emboar, Scrafty, Mienshao).

6 gen is the worst is furry bait
1 gen and 4 gen are the best
2 gen and 3 gen are okay
5 gen is ehhh

>>27890011
Gen 1 best
Gen 6 Worst

>>27899703
what the fuck isnt there to like you nutsack? unique typing still to this day, only pokemon to be based off a line of penguins and penguins are cool as shit

>>27890011
4>3>2>1>6>5

>>27891903
(You)

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Design ranking

>>27890703
I agree with this, maybe just swap 1 for 4

>>27908735
Same except swap 2 and 1, because chikorita is so bad in the game.

>>27890061
Objectively best opinion

>>27908735
Good taste

>>27908807
Rating for first forms when

>>27890152
This image is b8, right? Otherwise I can't possibly understand why people keep posting this, it's all a load of shit

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Overall i would say.

3>1>4>2>6>5

3 is my favorite batch, though it was the time i really got into pokemon so there might be some strong bias here.

1 is great overall, though it just might be nostalgia speaking

4 is good overall, Torterra is probably the last final form stater that i actually really liked and the other two are passable, even if infernape is kind of too much for me.

2 was when i kind of got away from pokemon and got more interested in other stuff, feraligatr is cool but the other two are really bland overall.

6 are just disappointing, i had high hopes for them but they managed to fuck up the coolest idea for starters ever. Greninja wouldnt be so bad if not for tongue scarf but the other two are just fucked.

5 will be the worst forever, wottergate and all of the rage, denial and sadness involved still scar my memories to this day.

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Best
>4 and 3

Worst
>2 and 6

>>27908807
>Delphox
>low tier

Ok buddy.

Swap Feraligatr with Delphox and the list is correct

6>2>4>3>5>1

>>27890011
3/5 BEST
4 WORST

Gen 1 the best, I have a hard time picking between Charizard and Blastoise, and Squirtle is still my favorite Pokemon.

Gen 5 the worst, even Emboar, my favorite of the three, is completely disappointing to use.

Gen 3, 4 and 6 had pretty good starters, 2 is just average.

>>27890011
Gen 4 best, Gen 6 worst

>>27890011
Gen 1 had the best starters.

And no. I'm not even a genwunner. This is just true.

5 had the worst.

gen 5 is definitely worst. I dont mind the grass starter but emboar is the most boring starter ever for sure

If you go by their Silver sprites, gen 2 was the peak of starters.

Go look at how rad Feraligatr and Typhlosion look in Silver, and try not to cry when you see them in Gen 6.

>>27890011
Anything other than Gen 4 is objectively wrong. Gen 1 & 3 are acceptable choices but incorrect. 2 and 6 are meh and 5 is awful