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Pokemon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/viewing order guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! [Aug 25th]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDBCBiFsMs

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! [Sep 1st]
>XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! [Sep 8th]
>XY&Z42&43 1 Hour Special [Sep 15th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Who knows anymore.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Don't get your hopes up.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>27877050
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POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z17 POKETV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][08A85A9A].mkv.torrent

XY&Z36 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_036_Fierce_Fighting_at_the_Kalos_League!_Gather,_All_of_My_Passion!![H264_720P][53FB69AD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=839243

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z39: THE FLARE GANG ATTACKS! THE ZYGARDE AT THE PRISM TOWER!! (AUGUST 25TH)
>A Zygarde and lots of enormous plants suddenly appear. And as Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan attempt to get to the bottom of this mystery, the Flare Gang appear before them! And incredibly enough, their target is Satoshi...!

>Summary:
>Miare City is thrown into a huge panic when mysterious enormous plants attack. Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan head for the Prism Tower to find out the cause behind all this. But then the Flare Gang appear before them. Meanwhile, Fleur-de-lis starts telling the entire world about his ambitions...!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Karin Nanami: Correa
>Rinko Natsuhi: Akebi
>Akane Fujita: Bara
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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I'm going to kill me
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 46 (Aug 21st)

XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! (Sep 1st)
>Clemont and the others decide to split into several groups in order to stop Team Flare's plans. Bonnie follows Squishy as it confronts Z2, which has transformed into its 50% Forme. But then the evil clutches of Team Flare strike! And just like Z2, Squishy also ended up getting controlled by Team Flare.

XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! (Sep 8th)
>As he attempts to retake the Lumiose Gym, Clemont challenges Team Flare scientist Xerosic to a battle, staking their pride as scientists.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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>>27882217
Why didn't Rayquaza just kill Lyssandre?
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>tfw missed the shit storm.
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>>27882397
Be glad that you did. The entire catalogue at one point were reactions to the loss. Threads were hitting the limit 15 minutes after being made. Was pure insanity
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>>27882515
What happened? Why did he lose? And Serena is not going to Alola?
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>>27882631
Because Goodra and Greninja fucking jobbed hard anon

Goodra couldn't take out a single mon, Alain's Bisharp destroyed him
Greninja took a Blast Burn to the face it had managed to avoid once already and just fell over despite looking perfectly fine. The super Shruiken was all for nothing.
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>>27882631
Alan had nakama power plotarmor on his side and Ash didn't, they will rematch during team flare plot and this time Ash has the nakama power and will beat him.
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What do you think about that he lost, and did you think he would win?

Please vote here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11020292
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At least the animation was good.

Hopefully Alan dies during Flare arc or something, no less will satisfy me.
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>>27882631
Serena isn't going you retard. Why set yourself up for more disappointment? How much of a masochist are you?
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Who cares about this bullshit. I hope they all die.
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Ash losing to such shit character is adding insult upon injury. I will not satisfied till all the writers, producers, directors are all dead. Fucking shitbags.
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I think what gets me the most is the EBIN shuriken they hyped for months..... did nothing and was literally just shrugged off like a Swift to the face. Anyone else?
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>>27883995
Not only that, but the footage isn't even the same we were hyped about. The "hyped footage" has a ink like effect around greninja while the real one doesn't.
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you bastards, you TRICKED ME, you came into /a/, you even came into /v/ to tell us that Ash was gonna win and I fell for it, I actually believed it.
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>>27882217
>Xerosic being shorter than Lysandre
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>>27883807
I never said she was. At the time I made that post I had not seen the episode and on /vp/ people were talking as if Serena was confirmed not going to Alola.

Anyway the battle just seemed anti-climatic and boring at the end. The Shota battle was at least cool, so I don't know why they didn't make the ending a big spectacle. It didn't even look like Charizard had that tough of a time. Ash kind of just got BTFO by Memezard X
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>>27883995
That shit messed me up. Charizard gets off that shuriken without a single scratch!
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I'm the only one who still loves Greninja?
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>>27882631
>>27882731

Am I the only one happy Goodra jobbed hard? Fuck that shit mon.

I feel for my boy Greg tho
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>>27882868

How exactly does that logic work.

Especially since they're apparantly going to heal Manon's Chespin by draining the life from Ash.
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>>27885012
I do, losing is part of the game. It will do better next time.
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>>27883925
But Alain's Mega Evolution episodes are the best thing Ashnime had in so many years, anon.

He's a better protagonist than this fucking frog loser.
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>>27885029
It's an anime trope
"I must do this FOR MY FRIEND!"
Vs.
"I just want to win"

Guess which one wins in anime world?
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>>27882217
>Will Serena win da Ash?
>Don't get your hopes up.
Huh really? That's likely the last thing that will be wrapped in the series if anything.
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>>27884264

I regret everything.
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XY family a shit. They didn't even shed a tear unlike based TM
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>mfw ningens
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>>27882631
>Serena was second place in the Kalos Tripokalon; defeated her main rival during the series (Shauna/Millefeui); did not finish her last battle against Elle before the decisive one, and lost to her on the battle that mattered
>alternatively, Serena's performace was the fucking best while Elle's was arguably lacklusting, yet she still won
>Ash was second place in the Kalos League; defeated his main rival during the series (Shota); did not finish his last battle against Alan before the decisive one, and lost to him on the battle that mattered
>alternatively, Ash's performace was his best yet, but despite all the hits it delivered against Megazard X AND the orange shuriken, he lost for much less in comparison

Essentially because of pure pottery.
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>>27885055

Killing one dude to save another is one of the biggest evils of anime world.
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>ash is such a trash trainer that his pokemon job against pokemon alain literally never uses
>alain probably had to fly around on his charizard catching random edgemons right before the league just to pad his team out to 6
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>>27885056
Wonder what we'll have for S/M.
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>>27885056
After getting so hyped up that ASH IS GONNA WIN I'd advise caution from now on. If it happen it happens but hyping it up is just going to bite people
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>not even a draw
J U S T
U
S
T

Also lads, why is Clemont crying in the preview?
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>>27883995
No joke, I actually couldn't sleep last night after I finished watching the ep. I had a lump in my throat and felt robbed.

I felt Ash's win was a guarantee. I never felt this disappointed before, not even with Tobias because we knew back then it was only the semi-finals. Here we really thought he would win.
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>>27885070
ZAMASU
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>>27885067
Because they know how to stay positive, even when Ash lost.
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>>27885109
Ash ia gonna win the alolan trials and beat all the kahunas/totems.
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>>27885109
But really, that'll likely end with XY&Z if it gets a proper conclusion.
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>>27885147

Maybe if Sun/Moon is a filler gen before NX, I can buy this
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>>27885092
But this isn't about killing, Ash didn't die. There's nothing "evil" about winning the league.
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>>27885114
Probably something to do with Bonnie. Everyone is fucking crying or in pain in the preview.

He clicks some button too. Might be self destruct of Lumiose Tower?
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>>27885056
>even after the last battle anime fags have literally 0 pattern recognition
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>>27885067
Because it's alright, he did what he could.

>>27885114
He was pressing a button that did something...
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>>27885181
It's Citroid self destruct
I like how the button says "K."
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>>27885056
Shitposters are so buttblasted the entire anime fandom didn't ragequit the show they've been making troll threads with rewritten OPs like that all day
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>>27885038
>next time
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>>27885181
>>27885199
>he was pressing a button
>self destruct

Lads...
Citroid.
Panic.
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>>27885067

Because it's their first rodeo, Team Rocket during all the league played the role of the viewers.

Constantly saying he always chokes, but wanting him to win and actually believing he will do it. Only to get crushed at the end.
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k
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>>27885091
Vamo a calmarno
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>>27885181
>>27885199
What button? I didn't see or hear any of that.
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>fuck your le meme homos, Marissonshipping is canon

they actually did it the absolute madmen
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>>27885228
so why do you still watch this shit and pretend anything will ever change? do you have some weird sexual fetish about getting proven wrong repeatedly?

desu from this point forward anyone who pretend the anime status quo will ever change is the real shitposter.
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>>27885278
None
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I'M SO FUCKING PISSED

I didn't even watch XY anime, I was going to because I was so fucking sure satoshi would win.

Jesus fucking christ I hope japan tear the anime writers assholes for this.

They could have still made him WIN THE FUCKING LEAGUE AND MADE HIM THE MC FOR 6TH GEN

THEY WEREN'T EVEN GOING TO HAVE GYMS IN SUN AND MOON ANYMORE

WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?
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This was the final fuck you from BW. HILARIOUS
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ASH WON
ASH WON
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>>27885228

Shitposting's gonna continue for the next week or two. At most until the big Flare battles start. People who were just in it for the league will leave by then, and the people who just have fun watching it will remain.
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>>27885301

>Alan thinks of his waifu's smile
>wins
>Ash ignores Serena during the whole league, and all his friends and mother for the matter
>Loses

Ash failed to shonen this thing.
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>>27885188
Sure, but until the series is over there isn't a complete pattern either way.
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>all of those Djoko/Murray shoops
>all those Bolt shops
>pic related ended up happening
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>>27885333
a ticket to Kanto, yeah
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>>27885181
>Everyone is fucking crying or in pain
Lysandre seems pretty happy
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>>27885314
Fujita has worked on the show for 19 years you memelord. He was never brought back from anything
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>Alain win Kalos league
>Manon's smile is rebuilt
>Alain is exposed as part of Team Flare
>Manon's smile is destroyed again
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>>27885314
>final
Sorry, I wll come in SM season too.
Please enjoy Pokemon Anime.
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fucking lel at the retards who thought Ash would win

You really still don't get the point of this anime?
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>Citroid contains a nuclear device
>Clemont is crying because he's going to kill thousands to stop Lysandre
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>>27885174

No but according to the preview Ash is getting his life drained by Lysandre and Alain is just watching him, if not actively lead him there. Which means he's probably doing it to save Manon's Chespin.

Which is fucking horrible that a guy who's willing to betray and kill a friendly rival and unleash devasation on a city just to help one friend somehow counts as better friendship power than Ash.

You think Manon wants Ash and countless Kalosian's to die just so her Chespin can get better.
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Post your face when Greninja fall I honestly don't like Greninja shitty powerup
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>eing this mad
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>>27885309

https://youtu.be/kmMhzaF7puM
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>>27885388
Lol enjoy your terrible animation quality next season because of no money from rating drops
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>>27885278
>>27885305
It's on the preview of upcoming events.
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>>27885436
>he thinks the ratings will drop because he and his Facebook friends ragequit the anime after a wee
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What will ash's team be in alola?

Obviously pickachu.

But what else.
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>>27885416
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>Ichigo loses the Rukiabowl
>Ash loses again

Today is truly my hell
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>>27885352
this season is confirmed to be exactly like every other season. believing
>b-but even if everything pointed to ash finally winning something with his super saiyan pokemon bond and that failed to change the status quo surely this children's cartoon will have a romantic relationship in it
is a sign of literal mental retardation
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I think that we owe the rest of the boards on 4chan an apology. Especially /a/.
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>>27885477
>Pikachu
>Who cares
>Who cares
>Who cares
>Who cares
>Who cares
>Who cares
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>>27885473
Fucking lmao you are delusional, even japan is pissed as fuck, retard
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>>27885487
Imagine how Japan feels. They preferred IchiRuki and wanted Ash to win.
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>>27885038
>Next time
Dear lord anon.
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I’m going to be honest here. The prospect of Ash winning the league was pretty much the only good storytelling element this league had going for it.
Now let me explain. Alain is a character who had no interest in participating in the first place, versus Ash who’s been working towards the goal for 19 years. They introduce a character who, in less than a week, curbstomps the entire region with a Charizard who only obtained half its power by joining Team Flare in the first place. The guy is also mentally immature, isolating and pushing himself away from everyone, never respects his opponent if they aren’t named Ash Ketchum, and invested minimal effort into this entire thing. The message the writers would be sending out by having a guy like that become champion is basically “lol being a d-ck to everyone and taking all shortcuts to power that you can find is what it takes; effort gets you nowhere.”

Holy crap. I would’ve preferred it if Shota became champion. At least then we’d just have another repeat ‘trololol’ moment instead of the insulting win they gave gary-stu Alain here. And I was iffy on Shota already.

Once again, the Pokemon staff prove that everyone except the animation department all took smoke breaks when this league was written. I really feel like they sacrificed the league for the Team Flare arc here.
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WHAT THE FUCK JAPAN??!?!?!?!
PIKACHU FUCKED SHIT UP SO HARD AND CARRIED LIKE A GOD, HE EVEN HIT A THUNDERSHOCK ON CHARIZARD THAT SHOULD HAVE DONE MASSIVE DAMAGE AND GRENINJA STILL LOSES?????

WHY HYPE THE SERIES THIS MUCH??
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PUT SO MUCH EMPHASE ON THIS ASH'S FINAL STAND KIND OF THING AND THEN RUINED IT???

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO END IN A HIGH NOTE AND YOU FUCKED IT ALL

IM BEYOND MAD FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>27882217
>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo
This should be removed already, right? Also, somebody should link raws for 38 for once.
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>>27885473
>hah you're not a real patrician who enjoys watching the same filler and friendship speeches padding out the same plot for 20 years now
people on facebook have better taste in media than you desu
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>>27885453
___________K______________
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>>27885560
Seriously. The Kalos League is by far the worst League of all
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>>27885498
The league is over and Ash lost, the series ain't over yet.
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how's greninja going to recover from this?
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>>27885571
This thread was made by a shitposter pasting the OP from some other shitposter thread. The link to 38 WAS in the OP >>27879772
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>yfw Ash dies
>but suddenly returns to the exact point where he is talking to Lysandre
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>>27885581
Nigga is going to detonate Citroid isn't he?

>Citroid: You stay, I go.
>Superman!
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>>27885436
>being THIS butthurt over his animu progressing the way it always has

holy shit senpai, take a week off to recover :^)
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>>27885608
You know damn well they immdiately took their games out of the trash after the pic was taken.
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>>27885622
He won't, Greninja will go to Oak's laboratory to live out the rest of his days in shame.
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I told you guys. There were like 10 deathflags for Ash last episode plus that senstence in the spoiler saying. SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH ASH IS THEIR TARGET. I knew there was a slim chance of him losing or at least a draw
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>People blame the writers
>Not the Pokemon company which probably gives them the guidelines for what happens each series

I'm laffing
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>>27885608
>in the trash
>not burned or destroyed
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>>27885581
Ah that's better.
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You fucks called me a denialfag/emofag. You put me in that shitty cringe "denialfag collage" and said I was going to be completely and utterly BTFO this morning.

Apologize.

APOLOGIZE.
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>>27885038
it's a loser and the rest of its life will be spent rueing its failure and regretting picking ash as a trainer as it sits unmoving on oak's ranch while ash fucks off to get pikachu's ass kicked by random peoples' newly acquired starters
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I'm actually glad ash lost. didn't wanted him to win witha shitty greninja . Bless the writers
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>>27885679
Yeah I can gurantee they picked that shit out the trash the second the picture was taken.
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>>27885686
u mad
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>>27885686
I apologize anon. We were a bunch of idiots.
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Post your reactions to ash losing
>giant shuriken hits
>smoke fades
>charizard staggers
>literally scream YES
>oh no hes ok
>greninja falls
>my face till the end of the preview of the next episode
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>>27885686
Post it please.I might be in it too.
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>>27882631
Because plot.

Greninja-Ash got messed up by their own synchro, fallen after swinging the golden shuriken that met Mega-Charizard's attack.
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>>27885686
You're still a faggot, correct faggot.
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Trip is probably at the Goldenrod Radio Station right now doing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik5MVj4nwN0
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>>27885611
>p-patterns don't exist because the thing being measured hasn't completely ended yet
>anime fans confirmed for being retards who don't know what a pattern is
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Tobias was better than this shit. But anyway this is the face of a true winner
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>>27885666
The Japanese summaries kept saying things like, "Will Ash win his first league?" and "Ash is going up against Alan who he has never won against!"

Why the hell did they bait us into thinking he could win? Plus with the knowledge that Greninja already lost to Mega Charizard twice before. Who would have thought Greninja would fail a third time to the same pokemon?

It literally made no sense in the narrative for Alan to win. He also dominated Trevor/Louis with just Mega Charizard so he steamrolled the whole league. What was the point?
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>>27885508
It's alright. Somehow, this makes me feel better about the Bleach ending.
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I am madder than it's physically possible
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>>27885554
You're 100% right, anon. BUT
>d-ck
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>>27885629
>It sure looks that way

nah pretty sure that's the shitposter thread
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>>27885781
>>27885611
MUH PATTERS HAHAHAHAHA
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>Ash loses the league, Serena is 99% gonna stay and be forgotten just like the other 3.
Never change.
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>yfw all writers get fired
>Best Wishes: Alola version!
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>>27885067
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You know why Alain won? Because he didn't panic like Shota when seeing the mega shuriken.
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>>27885781
Patterns exist, but until everything is wrapped up they aren't confirmed.

Then again there're patterns that were broken, like the water starter...
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Anyone else not even want to watch the rest of this Team Flare plot BS?

All I cared about was Ash winning the league, and now that he lost I just don't give a shit.
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>METAL GEAR SURVIVE
>FFXV DELAYED
>ASH LOSING TO A COMPLETE ASSPULL EDGYZARD
NUKE JAPAN

NUKE IT FROM ORBIT
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>>27885790
>It literally made no sense in the narrative for Alan to win. He also dominated Trevor/Louis with just Mega Charizard so he steamrolled the whole league. What was the point?
He literally didn't even wanted to win the League just fight Ash
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>>27885686
F-Fine, sorry. I'm sorry.
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>>27885788

>Tobias better
>asspull character with 6 legends

I mean at least Alan got a story of his own, and own motivations despite being an edegelord or not.

What was Tobias character traits? Literally nothing, I expected him to say "gg" to Cynthia when he destroyed her at best.
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IN THE END

THE STATUS QUO REIGNS SUPREME
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>>27885818
eric
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>>27885791
>Bleach ending
What happened?
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>>27885844
I'm still going to watch it but not going to get up for streams anymore, probably waiting for the slow ass subs 2bh
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>>27885829
>Who is your daddy now Ash?
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>>27885829
God there all idiots.
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>>27885581
>K
>Kill
Not only does Citroid die, but Citron has to kill him.
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>>27885739
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>>27885829
>Youtube
Reddit go
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How to fuck up everything in a nutshell
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>>27885739
Me since this morning.

>>27885822
>XY Ash loses the league
>still denying patterns

You are barely even fooling yourself.
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>>27885878
Alan is Bad Writing the character.
At least Tobias was a reminder that the Pokemon world is a big ass place with millions of strong trainers
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>>27885908
I'll just do the usual watch the raws. Never bothered with streams.
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>>27885333
A second place, yeah.
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>>27885844
If you watched all of XY so far, you might as well finish the series. I'm probably not watching Sun/Moon though.
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>>27885910

I hate this edgelord faggot so fucking much.
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>>27885902
>NOT daijobu
Is Serena also shit at protecting smiles?
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>>27885902
Rukia lost the shipping and there was no conclusion on Aizen, apparently.

>I'm just gonna stay and chill on my chair while everyone rages because Ichihime is real
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>>27885790
>Why the hell did they bait us into thinking he could win?
What kind of retard would watch if they marketed it as "watch ash's inevitable loss and about 5 seconds of introspection before everything returns to the status quo for the 6th time"? Besides the people in this general I mean.
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Please Serena, save the anime
Save the world
YOU HAVE TO WIN THE ASH
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I knew something was wrong the moment Alan remembered Manon. I thought making Alan win would be the worst shit ever because it didn't make any sense. But here we are
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>>27885939
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>>27885228
What's so bad about don't get your hopes up? I don't get it. It's realistic and smart.
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>>27885993

Not even Shitrena can salvage this mess. She could literally fuck Ash on screen and it still wouldn't make up for it.
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lel>>27886002
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Wait so the leaks with Blast Burn taking out Greninja true?
FUUUUUUU
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I guess Mega ZardX was The Strongest Mega Evolution after all.
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The writers basically trolled all of /padt/ with this episode. Amazing
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Let's all take a moment to send our condolences to the referee that got caught between that Blast Burn, Water Shuriken collision.
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>>27886000
He fought to protect his waifus smile Can't be mad.
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>>27885970
She'll have to protect it later.

>>27885976
Wasn't the first thing obvious?
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>>27885608
>hijos de puta
Spanish insults get me every time.
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>>27885931
Now with booms
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>>27885993
How can a shit character save a shit series?
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>>27886015
That guy is the actual shitposter. He's pretending to be a retard who has absolutely no understanding of the point of the anime or any pattern recognition because he's trying to disappoint people.
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Why would they do this, /vp/? why would they dump three years of writing and build up? if there's a legit reason, I'd accept it, like the last 18 fucking years.

But why now?
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>>27885147
who gives a fuck? it's the frontier brains all over again. Ash gets lucky and beats some nobodies that nobody gives a fuck about in the middle of nowhere, can't wait! it's going to be orange islands meets best wishes, hopefully it will be the last season of this shit.
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>>27886069
Clearly
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>>27885993

Why would this save it anyway, who gives a shit now. Ash winning the league is all that matters.

Fucking shippers I swear.
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>>27882217
I just got back into pokemon and finished watching the original series up to where ash and richie battle. Where do I go from here? Is it worth watching every single episode in the series?
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>>27885979
What I mean is they gave numerous hints of him winning in the summaries. They had Ash/Greninja lose 3 times against Alan/Mega Charizard.

They had Alan steamroll the whole league with basically one pokemon. All of Ash's training with Greninja essentially didn't amount to much...it lost to the same damn pokemon 3 times.
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this ep is a good reason why people pirate anime. You can't expect us to pay full price for disappointment.
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>>27886101
There's literally a newfag pasta in the OP
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>>27886085
Lots of people. And it won't be the last. No need to cry about it.
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>>27886069

What are you even talking about? Pattern recognition affirms his point about amour going nowhere. You're just calling everyone who sees through the bullshit a shitposter.

I can't believe you're actually still defending this shit. You are completely hopeless.
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>>27886069
Makes sense.
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>>27885114
Clembot death
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>>27883925
Being THIS triggered. I really can't wait to see your faggot faces when is that shit girl Serena not only gets friendzoned by Ash, but gets left behind in Kalos. Ash lost because skill always beats "muh bonds".

>Alan
>shit character

You have such retarded tastes too. Go fucking kill yourself
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>>27886109
Well, the real challenge for Ash and Greninja is about to come, perfect Zygarde.
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>>27886085
Better than learning shit from gym battles just to choke all over again
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Good thing im pirating sun and moon

Fuck you pokemon company
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>>27886119
Pokemon isn't available for purchase, anon.
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I am legit considering not getting Pokémon S/M now. Not even boycotting, it's just that this drained all the hype away from me, I got bored of Pokémon GO too and fucking Shuffle is the part of the franchise I'm enjoying the most right now.
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>>27886132
I think you misread into the situation, he was calling the poster that called this thread a troll thread the shitposter. The OP for this thread is totally fine.
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>>27886122

>Lots of people
>a handful of spics in /padt/ is lots of people
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>the writers probably flipped a coin to decide the final
>they'll probably do the same with Serena
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>all this mad over a cartoon
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>>27886153
Nobody cares.
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>>27886121
the newfag pasta talks about jumping in for XY, not about starting from the beginning.
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>>27886143
Due his bond with Greninja they could get the synchro.
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They could have at least made it look like it was a close fight. Frog got creamed straight up.

What was even the point of the long synchro mastery arc if he only ever beats a sceptile, altaria and obamasnow.
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So it's been about 7 hours. Do we still think the entire XY series is BW-tier shit?
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>>27885554

I'm hoping against hope Alain goes to jail as a war criminal after this and the message is that powerhungry soul sellers might win for a short time but it will destroy them in the end, and Ash is just turned off from leagues all together as a result, which is why he decides to try something new in Aloha.

Otherwise the writers are just fucking insane or are actively trying to tank this show.
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>>27885902
The only thing that happened was that there were babbies ever after. Namely, IchiHime and RenRuki.

>we still don't know what the fuck was the deal with the Soul King
>or why did Yhwach wanted to end life and death cycles
>or what's the deal with the IchiHime babby
>or what was the Yhwach reiatsu appearing, or why
>or what happened to Isshin, Ryuuken, Urahara, Yoruichi, Kon, Tatsuki, Orihime's other girl friends, Grimmjow, Nel, Sharktits and her slags and a buttload of other characters
>or why and how did Aizen returned to the chair in prison
>or everything about Ichigo's new Bankai that ended up being his old Shikai after all, or if he still has powers
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>>27886143
Alan fight with Ash is probably the biggest shit writting the Pokemon Animehhas ever had. The only one coming close is Cameron but at leats that guy wasn't a try hard edgelord
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How long do you think it will take for this shit to go away?
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>>27886166
>implying its just/padt/
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>>27886153
I instantly uninstalled pokemon go
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>>27886165
OP even removed the link to the new raw, moron. It's a pretty blatant troll
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>>27886165

The other threads aren't shitposting either just because they shit on the show. The OP is completely arbitrary to begin with.
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>>27886178
>>27886144
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>>27886178
They fucked up and basically made the league a part of the flare arc. In reality, the flare arc doesn't fucking matter in the long run of things. They don't understand that people want Ash to win a league. Would have been a lot better for the franchise.
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>>27885739
I was just stunned for two minutes trying to understand why would they do this.
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Its just really sad. It really makes the entire anime, not just XY but the whole show, feel ultimately pointless in the end. I really did think they'd have Ash win a league eventually, and this was the perfect time.
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>>27885739
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>>27886202
Oh, there was that too.
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>>27886184

But if Alan goes to jail and fails to save Hari-san, her smile won't get restored.
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The only real question after all this is why Alain even wanted to fight a shitter like Ash. Greninja-fusion is a bitch that never came close to holding charizard's jockstrap any other time they fought and ash is such a shit trainer that his other pokemon job against random edgemons Alain never trains and probably just caught to pad his team out to 6.

Objectively Alain should have just gone around trying to beat Elite 4 members or something instead of wasting his time on this shit.
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>>27886195
What specifically?
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>>27885622

He won't. No need. XY gen is over. Need to pimp the next big popular mon.

Assuming they can guess right again.
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>>27886181
The series was overall pretty good, but the last fight was bad even if we knew that Ash wasn't going to be allowed to win. Why wasn't he even upset about losing? That's literally been all he's trying to do for the past 130 episodes. How many times has he said that this time he needs to win? At the very least he should be slightly upset that he lost.
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>>27886202
I didn't see that. I just thought people were sperging out about the Serena part.
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A ton of Pokemon forums are saying they are glad Ash didn't won because this was a shitty league and Ash winning it would be the only good part of it. and thats just sad
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The saddest part about Ash losing is that it confirms that this Team Flare shit will go on for at least 10 episodes.

Remember when we were all getting hyped for some sort of E4 conquest?
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>>27886228
>Alan
>jail
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>>27885608

hahaha that Hue triggered so hard, I can't speak Portuguese and still I know there is a lot of salt in there.
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>>27886232
He could have perfectly wait for Ash outside of the League after the last match but NO. The fucking dumbass had to go in and kill everybody without any effort at all
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>>27885825
You meant "other 4".
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>>27886252
That's some sour grapes if I ever saw one.
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>>27886251
Well, there's that too, but it makes it pretty clear OP is a shitposter removing and changing things from the OP deliberately just to be a faggot
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>>27886228
Fuck her and fuck Alan too. They're both characters that will never show up again.
>>27886232
They fucked up somewhere along the way. I thought greninja would put up a good fight, but he got smeared like the rest of the megas that zard fought. Doesn't make sense why Alan was so obsessed with Ash when in reality he was pretty much a shitter compared to him.

This lackluster ending is what I feared. I would have taken the league getting interrupted over this.
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>>27886244
This shitposting storm
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>>27886254
Eh not sure about that, but if that's so it might be cool in the end.
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>>27886252

which ones, like serebii and shit?

Serebii forums are litearally retarded, probably some 35 yo smelly Misty fags
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>>27886250

The series was only good as build up for Ash to win. The loss invalidates the quality of the whole season. His gym victories are meaningless, they're the same as every other season except he's cockier.
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>>27885739
>giant shuriken they hyped for weeks hits Charizard directly
>Charizard is fine
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>>27886254
I'm actually kind of curious now what that Greninja episode coming up after the Flare arc is. Watch the writers have Ash and Alan battle one more time in a 1 on 1 with Ash winning....

...except it won't really matter.
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>>27885937
This was our only stream today you dumb pleb.
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>>27886293
Oh, it'll take days. Because even if something that the shitposters are targeting for their shitposting happened, they'd still shitpost, so ultimately they'll get tired of it.
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>>27886178
>What was even the point of the long synchro mastery arc if he only ever beats a sceptile, altaria and obamasnow.
That you can't win everyone with memepower.
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>>27885739
>charizard staggers
Thats when I knew ash lost
After a "clash with smoke" situation the loser directly falls or fall after the winner staggers
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>>27886288
This isn't amourshipping general. I don't see why don't get your hopes up is irrational. He just lost the league after all of that hype, and people actually believed he was going to win.

And calm down bud it can be fixed.
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>>27886293
>people being justifiably upset about the show is shitposting

What the fuck is even wrong with you?
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>>27886300
At least DP ended with a BANG unlike XY
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Ash is literally the Stirling Moss of Pokemon battling.
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>Incoming Pokemon sun/moon
>pokemon GO is a sucess
>literally Pokemania at his fullest if Ash wins the league, everyone would be like "wow he wins? also people says XY and XYZ, maybe i should watch it!"

But no, why? just let ash lose, that would be fun. It could have been the Golden age of Pokemon, but no. Congratulations.
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>Actually watching the anime

Kek you fags, I just play the games. I haven't watched the anime since I was a fucking kid, seriously.
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>>27886047
Well at least we know Serena is off to save Ash

But God damn Ash loses then gets captured for several episodes, what the fuck were they thinking? "How do we twist the knife in further?"
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>>27886278
>even olympic sprinters run like girls
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>>27886317
>he didn't see the two other streams people used
>including the stndard one people have used for months
lel
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>>27886178
>They could have at least made it look like it was a close fight. Frog got creamed straight up.
Frog barely got hit. It looked like he just got tired and gave up after the super-shuriken.
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>>27886339

Anything that challenges the hugbox general mentality is shitposting, anon.
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>>27886351
Cry harder
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The worst part is that Alan will get redeemed on the Flare arc and get his happy ending, while our boy Ash won't ever be happy
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>>27886343
He's obviously an amourshitter.
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>>27886351
People are dead mad. I'm just glad i didn't spend my time watching XY since day 1
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>>27886178
>They could have at least made it look like it was a close fight.
Yeah that's the thing that pissed me off most.
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>>27886257

Either that or he dies.

Dude is actively siding with team Flare and letting Lysandre suck the life out of Ash.

Guy went full evil.
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>>27886308
They will fight again, and this time Ash will win because "I have to protect everyone!" gives him a power boost just like Manons shitty ass smile did to Alan during League.

But it wont matter since he ain't getting that trophy :^)
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>>27886300
To be fair DP was a good series overall same things considered. Because you could make the same argument against it.
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>>27885739
At one point I started choking.
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>>27886401
:(
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>>27886401
Like how he didn't burn them and than take the pic. :^)
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>>27886346
XY isn't over yet...
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>>27886395
What does amour have to do with anything
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>>27886412
Him dying due to Ash would be the only thing that could redeem this shit show, too bad it wont happen.
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>>27886401
wololo!!
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>>27885739
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>>27886357
>thinking playing the games for babies makes him somehow better than watching a cartoon for the same babies

Please, go back and rethink your life.
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>>27886387
>End of Flare Arc
>Alain decides to change his ways, sides with Ash to fight Lysandre
>They beat him
>Alain turns to Manon, smiles
>Immediately gets crushed by falling piece of rubble
>Ash is the new Champion!
>Sobbing and broken Manon has to give Alain's trophy to Ash
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I think when the dust has settled and we're like 20-30 episodes into the SM anime we'll look back on the XY anime as the best one ever that could never be topped. Especially with the upcoming Flare arc looking like the most crazy shit ever. But who knows, it could just be another Plasma arc and we'll all hate it.
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>>27886416

DP Ash's main conflict was against Paul. XY Ash virtually had no conflicts besides finally beating the league, and that's how he was built up.

The equivalent would be DP Ash losing to Paul.
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>>27885739
>Giant Shuriken hit
>Blast burn
>please win or draw please win or draw
>both standing
>Charizard staggers
>MAYBE
>fuck no he keep standing
>Greninja fall
>mfw closing the stream and watching my blank screen for 5 minutes
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I'm glad for Alan and Manon. Once the Flare arc ends they will go to their honeymoon. How many kids will they have?
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>>27886401
>Burning your plushes instead of selling them
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>>27886359
To be fair, we don't know for how long he'll be captured, the preview appears to be for the upcoming episodes including the 1 hour airing, so the next 4-5 episodes.
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>>27886047
>Wasn't the first thing obvious?

That's the thing that makes me curious, actually. It was damn obvious.
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>>27886380
All the standard streams were dead today, or didn't let anyone in. Only the YT guy and KeyHole worked.

You weren't even in the thread today.
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>>27886464
Well 90% of the XY anime is over already, and most of the series was great, but Ash losing to Alan in the league has no excuse.

At least with Tobias we knew it was the semi-finals. We knew Ash couldn't win the Sinnoh league.
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>>27886464
>we'll look back on the XY anime as the best one ever that could never be topped

This is monumental levels of denial.
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>>27886464
Nigga, it WILL be another Plasma arc.
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>>27886464
After this league in general I'm not getting my hopes up. They could have at least made gren v zard a close fight, but no, gren got fucking wasted. All of that training and shit just to get beat AGAIN by Alan like it was nothing.

Fuck. I'm still finishing the season, but I'm going to be salty.
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>>27886479
It's a symbolic gesture. He probably will sell tehm.
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>>27886478

non, non
Manon is not for breeding! (yet)
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>>27886401
But why Pikachu? He was the only good fighter
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>PM Gals is going to conclude by Alan cucking Ash isn't it?
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Can someone post links to the webms? I lost my stuff and I only have this

https://my.mixtape.moe/hjbbcn.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/pzifjm.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/zkjlux.webm
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Im not even mad, i am just plain sad
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>>27886467
Yes, he defeated Paul and afterwards came the asspull known as Tobias...
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>>27886524
Ash doesn't care about Serena, so he won't get cucked.
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>>27886467
This.

Tobias was obviously dumb, but it didn't matter since Ash vs Paul got a satisfying conclusion.
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>>27886343
You can be upset all you like, but posting the same complaints over and over is shitposting. Also, I'm talking about the entire situation, including the shitposters that keep baiting you to respond.
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>>27882731
>>27885025

Personally thats what they all get for putting Goodra on such high pedestal the week, before and after, when its was revealed that it would be the sixth pokemon.

It was a shame that Ash didn't go to his inbox to get something else.
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>>27886464
Kek maybe for you. Serena was shit and ash losing to a literal gary stu is worse. XY is right there with BW as the worst of Pokemon
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>>27886479
>implying the market for that shit didn't just tank
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>>27886478
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>I am sorry, Satoshi...
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>>27886542
Actually in PM Gals his attention is mostly on Serena since she was introduced... For whatever reason...
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>"IKU Z"
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>>27886539
Everyone knew who Tobias was in the first episode of the League. So it wasn't much of an asspull
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>>27885739
>both were still standing
>"ok, what the fuck, I expected the zard to be knocked out"
>charizard is the first to stagger
>"so, greninja lost"
>I was right

I sincerely wanted to check on /vp/ and see how the entire board was reacting right away, but I couldn't set my eyes off for just a second, because I knew some Flare shit was about to start.
>>
So Stale was right ?
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>>27886587
Hey hey, you're cool in the game. Just the anime shilling you made me hate you.
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>>27886516
Manon will breed with Alan's big champion cock and give birth to the best next champions of each region.
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>>27886556
Greninja was voted most popular in Japan. If Ash won, imagine all of the merch they could have sold.

Now there's a bunch of salty older kids and adult fans out there with the image of greninja falling over in their heads. I loved greninja from the moment I saw it, and even that shook my image of the lad.
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>>27886415
>Yfw Alain gives him the trophy

Pity badges and then a pity trophy
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>>27886539

THE ASSPULL WAS ON ASH'S SIDE THIS TIME

Everything was set up for him to win, but he still lost. DP was not built for a league victory like this, and at least Ash's primary conflict was resolved in a satisfying way. There was no character conflict here, it was all about Ash finally being at his best, finally winning the last league there will ever be and they cucked him out of it for absolutely no reason.
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>>27886598
...about?
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Can we just agree that even with Tobias Sinnoh League had the best battles or any League.
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>>27886592
S-SHUT UP! IT WAS MEANT TO BE HYPE WORTHY.
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>>27886598
Nah stale is still on Serena falling for Clemont during the TF climax. Stale is never the one that gets anything right.
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>>27886629
Plot wise, yes. XY still wins on animation.
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>>27886629
Agreed. Bringing back shit like sleepycross was based.
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>>27886629
Heonn league is still the best imo.

It had 3 6v6s and the double battles were great too.
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>>27886629
DP is still the best. End of disscussion
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>>27886592
>didn't even play in the whole fucking episode
The shitty version doesn't count
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>>27886652
I'm still salty about Torkoal, why the hell Torkoal?
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>>27885608
How tumblr is feeling about this?
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>>27886629

Well yeah, no shit.
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>>27886629
XY destroys DP in animation but overall is a better experince
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>>27886676
Why do you care?
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>>27886667

I feel like they tried to redeem a lot of his shitmons from Johto and Hoenn that got less stuff in their respective gen.

Cyndaquil and Panphy at least looked good.
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>>27886614
A trainer with legendaries is really an asspull too though, even if Ash wasn't mean to win.
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>They made a Zygarde mech of their own
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>>27886676
Noodle is pretty butt-mad and made like 10 posts about it. So is the rest of tumblr.

Both the review threads on Bulbagarden and Serebii are also furious over Ash's loss.
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>>27886633
>Nah stale is still on Serena falling for Clemont during the TF climax

Lies

> Stale is never the one that gets anything right.
You wish that were true, otherwise you wouldn't be this salty


>>27886598
Yes my child. God, eternal glory be to Him, granted me and my ummah victory
Will you now join us and acknowledge as your prophet?
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>>27886676
This is their reaction >>27885554
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>Serena was second place in the Kalos Tripokalon; defeated her main rival during the series (Shauna/Millefeui); did not finish her last battle against Elle before the decisive one, and lost to her on the battle that mattered
>alternatively, Serena's performace was the fucking best while Elle's was arguably lacklusting, yet she still won
>Ash was second place in the Kalos League; defeated his main rival during the series (Shota); did not finish his last battle against Alan before the decisive one, and lost to him on the battle that mattered
>alternatively, Ash's performace was his best yet, but despite all the hits it delivered against Megazard X AND the orange shuriken, he lost for much less in comparison

after today's ep I'm not trusting any more patterns or whatever other crap the anime throws at me until shit actually happens, but here's the last piece of pottery I found
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Normally by this time of day I've rewatched the episode at least once if it was a battle. No inclination whatsoever though.

Want to know something sad guys. I've been having heart problems for the last year and a month ago they ramped up. Honestly didn't think I'd make it to the end of Summer My one wish was to at least last long enough to see the end of the league. Then this bullshit happens, fuck me.
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>>27886629

even if Ash had won, that league was better on everything (except Tobias)
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>>27882868
Ash can whoop on Alain all he wants now. It isn't a League match anymore. Ash was destined to fail from the start, since he purportedly cannot become the champion of any league, just so they can move him to the next region.

NEVER EVER.
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>>27886627
Ash losing the league and Amour not leading to anything.
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>>27886667
It should've been Kingler instead.
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>>27886726
Be out hero and nuke japan
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>>27886724

>not trusting any patterns
>Ash lost the league, following the pattern completely

I don't follow.
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>DPfags going all out

yea still not a good time to go back
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no matter how hard you work, you will always lose in the end
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>>27886726
I haven't even downloaded the raw ep yet.

tell me you're playing me a prank
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>>27886478
They will have at least 5 kids.
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>>27886741
Tell Stale that we will go drown along with our ship.
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>>27886726
I'm sad to read that anon but keep on living. Life is beautiful. Go to a park or spend time with your family of friends if you have them
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>>27886726

Blow yourself with the writers. For ISIS
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>>27886702
Ash could bring in a full team of 6 legendaries but that wouldn't be satisfying for anyone involved.
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>>27886726
Same. I can't even bring myself to rewatch it, nor I think I'll do it soon. And the same goes for all the previous Greninja battles (against Gardevoir, Sceptile, Obama...)
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>>27886714
Huh? I'm not salty, Ash lost end of the league, now onto the TF arc and what remains of XY.
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>>27886769

Don't worry, you'll be back to your 5 person BW circlejerk soon. Everyone else dropped the show already.
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>>27885947

I could believe that if anyone had mentioned at all the fucker who was sweeping the tournament before he ran into Ash. Tobias was an asspull.
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>>27886767
by that I mean the hype patterns they throw at us, like the entirety of ash-greninja building into some unstoppable machine
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>>27886661
When were the 6v6 and double battles? I'd like to go watch those and pretend this episode didn't happen.
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>>27886608
>Yfw the chicken is actually Manon's and Alan's kid
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>I-I think the BW girls are the cutest

kys
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>>27886724
Okay, but what does that pottery account for?
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>>27886724
Serena ends her performance with a tornado of combinated powers that become a giant flower of fire that blooms on stage.
Elle just steps on some barriers and gets carried by her butterfree.
also serena flies on her own with the power of fairy wind

But muh smiles.
that shit was rigged
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Adamant what is he saying?

https://twitter.com/aoshi11/status/766241482881638400
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>>27886676
They seem to be taking it as well as we are.
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Ok, guys
Stale here
You have two options you either join me and my ummah for the final battle and have all your past sins forgiven
or
You join a feeble, pathetic and sinful bunch of delusional fags with little to no moral left against the will of God represented by his prophet and his ummah

What will it be?
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>>27886726
It's awesome you've lasted this long, anon, but don't lose hopes on life. One step at a time, and enjoy your surroundings while you're at it.
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>>27886726
>>27886781
I woke up at 7:30 and waited until the Raw was out. It took 2 or 3 hours to download don't know why and finally watched blind. Amazing experience but Ash losing was like someone punching me in the guts. I literally screamed at the screen in a mix of happyness and sadness but mainly happyness because i wanted to see the reactions in /padt/
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>>27886876
Even if you're right in the end you were wrong all over the build up.
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How did 2ch take ash's lost? Dont tell me they wanted that fucking edgelord to win
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Who here destroying all Pokémon merchandise
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Just look at this Edgy gary stu try hard faggot looking all mighty and onmipotent.
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>>27886252
The entire league was shit, but Ash winning would have redeemed it and made it "that league Ash won".
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>Charizard gets development arc
>Beats Blastoise in the final rival battle
>Infernape gets development arc
>Beats Electivire in the final rival battle
>Greninja gets development arc
>Chokes on its tongue

WHY
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>>27886780
I don't understand what they're trying to teach kids with Ash losing all the goddamn time.
>inb4 orange islands
>inb4 battle frontier
none of that shit is a league (which is the main part of the main series games)
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>>27886922
>Dont tell me they wanted that fucking edgelord to win
Remember that Sasuke is the most popular Naruto character ever
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>>27886943
Not me because I'm not a faggoty fucking redditor.
Let me guess, if Trump wins you're "moving to Canada"?
That's what you sound like.
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Why is Ash strapped to some contraption and Serena in a helicopter with Manon?
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>>27886966
It beat out Sceptile though.
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>serebii forum posts
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>>27886966
The fucker doesn't know how to jump
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>>27886997
Ash is captured by TF, Serena will go to rescue him, Clemont will do shit with the Prism Tower.
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>>27886948
I hate him and his stupid fucking pants. I hate the little orange girl too.

It's his fault the shit happened to her anyway.
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>>27886922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDBCBiFsMs
Japan's pretty pissed too.
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>how you want your sanity senpai

JUST
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>>27887003
He's not wrong about Ash being a flat character though. At this point he's just "NEVER GIVE UP! :D" until he gets his shit kicked in where it counts.
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>>27887035
You know I really wonder why the writers weren't aware of how much a backlash this would be.

The Greninja hype, Alan/Mega Charizard beating Ash three times, Alan steamrolling the league, Ash in the finals...the summaries. Literally everything pointed to Ash winning.
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He would have won if Volt played.
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>>27887075
makes you wonder if that was the intended direction but one of the higher ups heard of it
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>>27887035
I've noticed that for every 1 like, there are around 40 dislikes.

So they'll be on around 40,000 dislikes when the video reaches 1,000 likes.
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>tfw 26
>day ruined because of a fucking cartoon
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>Zard loses megastone because Lysander is evul.
>Jobs to Greninja

They will shove even more salt here.
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>>27887092
>>27887075
This was the biggest Plot Twist in Anime. Obito being Tobi doesn't even compare
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>>27886876
I will be gen VII stale
i want to break everyone's hopes and shitpost all the fucking day
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Okay /padt/ you're one of the main executives, producers, directors, whatever, and some shady looking man from TV Tokyo knock your door and tell you this: if you don't fix this mess, you'll end up swimming with da whales

How does /padt/ fix this whole mess?
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>>27887092
This was all written a long time ago. They're probably going to do something in the flare arc where Alan has to give up his trophy or some shit. Or Ash just becomes HERO OF GALOS.

But the damage is done. The one thing Ash could never get is over.

They're just plain stupid.
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>>27887092
I can just imagine the episode had two difference scenes, one with Charizard falling down or one with Greninja falling down. All they else would have had to change was a shot of Ash getting the trophy instead of Alan, and 90% of the episode would have been the same.

I wonder if it was a last minute bait and switch.
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>>27887129
Time travel
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I'll never understand why they can't let Ash win a league. I knew from the moment Serena lost to Elle, Ash was going to lose the league.

Isn't the league only ONE STEP to being Pokemon Master? Why give him an impossible goal?
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>>27887117
i feel the exact same brother

woke up at 7 just to see the results, and couldn't fall back asleep because i was so blasted
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>Im already more invested for the flare are than I ever was for the kalos league


Holy shit serebii in full depression
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>not understanding thst Satoshi wins in Alola because Top 4 ---> Top 2 ---> Winner progression and no league and it all comes together.
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>>27887129
Release the Sun/Moon poster with Serena on it
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Man, just imagine the shitstorm when Serena leaves next and Amour is left aside. Even if you don't care for the shipping, the fact that they pushed that so damn hard too is going to hurt people.

Why do the writers bait so badly? What is the point? They knew after BW they couldn't screw up again. Nobody will care for Sun/Moon besides new little kids.
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>>27887129

It was all a concussed dream of Ash because he hit his head at the shuriken explsion, and he actually won the league.
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>I actually believed I would live to see the day when Ash won the league
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>>27887181
no
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>You will die before Ash wins a league
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>>27887197
Would that solve anything? Wouldn't making amour canon be better than just throwing Serena into the next series?
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>>27887170
Well the Kalos League was shit since episode 1 so..........
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>Clemont says Ash has never defeated Alain
>Summaries say Ash has never defeated Alain
>Ash goes through an entire development arc to obtain perfect frog to win the League
>talks about this nonstop the entire season
>previews, trailers, and magazines hype it all up
>Team Rocket even think he's going to win
>Pikachu clears the way by taking out two pseudos and knocking Zard to its knees
>Goodra jobs
>Frog jobs
>Side story character and part time villain wins

For what fucking purpose?
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>>27886781
Even right now I've got minor heart aches but I potentially have a few more years in me. Fuck Marfan syndrome, connective tissue disorder. When it does happen theres 0 chance of surviving though. The aorta will rip open and I'll be ded within a minute.
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>>27887129
Public execution of everyone involved with the anime: producers, writers, animators..., all except the VAs. Then, a 12 episodes long miniseries about how a now 16yo Ash had already re-challenged and won the previous leagues, and now has to win a super special cup or something while defeating Team Rocket for good.

Then, public execution of the VAs.
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>>27887204
>Why do the writers bait so badly
I told hou faggots and you said NO NO NO THE WRITERS WILL DELIVER. Get fucked. is this your first anime?
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>>27887126
I apriciate it, friend
I plan to retire after this season
Prophets have their eras and the XY series was mine
Come to my after the final has ended so I can give you my blessin
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>>27887273
Yeah this is what bugs me the most. Its not that Ash lost, its that the writers hyped it up so damn much. All the summaries saying Ash never beat Alan, all the training with Greninja, Ash already losing twice to Alan and Mega Charizard...Alan having no reason to be in the league.

The narrative of the show pointed toward Ash winning, but so did the writers/producers with all their advertisements/summaries and baiting.
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>>27887204
The people who actually thought Amour was leading to something only have themselves to blame. All the complaining they were doing to the mods about "shitposting" won't matter in the end because Amour will end with no romance happening between Ash and Serena. I hope today was a wake up call to them.
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>>27887286
:(
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>>27887129
Sun/Moon stars Chicken-chan alone now.

Meanwhile, Ash gets a world championship arc in Kanto and wins with a team of his strongest regional mons.
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>mfw waiting on the writers to deliver
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>>27887126
>i want to break everyone's hopes
What hopes? There is none
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>>27887204
Ash never showed romantic interest in Serena, so w/e
>>
EVEN TEAM ROCKET
SAID
>MAYBE...MAYBE THIS TIME HE WILL WIN
AND HE DIDNT
WHY
WHYYYYYYYYY TEASE ME
LIKE FUCKING THAT
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>27887129

Alain sides with Flare, has a rematch with Ash. Ash wins with the power of Serena. Gets offered the trophy and refuses, but still wins in principle.
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I don't understand how Rica can stand this shit. Is it because she doesn't have kids?
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HOLY SHIT. Ash vs Alan part 1 had the worst Pokemon ratings in history. Pokemon could die after XYZ my friends
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>>27887342
Amour could have had a subtle continuation/conclusion. Nobody expects Ash and Serena to become a couple on-screen, but they could handle it in a satisfactory way.
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>>27887286
please take me with you
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>>27887414
Fuck off with this shit.

Ash lost in the league fair and square, him beating Alan later on or Alan getting disqualified will not turn over anything.
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>>27887409
It was a deathflag anon. Everything was a deathflag
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>>27887385
Because he's all about league and being a pokemon master, not because he doesnt like Serena.
Im sure if you put the thought in his mind, he would like Serena, since he has shown more care for her than other companion girls.
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>>27886997
Lysandre captured him, as for Serena, fighting Zygarde.

I Hope Serena saves Ash.
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You know the moment when I discovered Ash was going to lose the league?
when he didn't bring back his old mons
the kid still put a fight though
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So what the fuck was the point of all those summaries saying Ash never won against Alan? Just to let us know he would never win against him and lose 3 times?

Usually when Ash loses multiple times to a character he eventually beats them.
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>>27887414
>Ash wins with the power of Serena
Fuck you and your Serena, she didn't feel for Ash's loss, at all.

Team Rocket are his only bros.
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>>27887455

Alain won to protect his waifu's smile. Ash, ironically, did not have waifu powers to give him the edge, despite it being a plot point before. It didn't happen when he needed it most.
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>>27887492
>>27887075

I'll say it again, it doesn't even matter how dramatic the Flare arc is, it's a given Team Flare is beaten, since it's Pokemon. Ash having another 'moral victory' is grating for anyone that wants even a simple plot at this point.
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Post yfw homos BTFO and marisson won
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>>27887495

She took it about as well as Ash did.
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Kek. In serebii they just made a poll to see who is Ash most populat asspull. And people here say everyone hates Tobias

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?649294-Your-Favorite-of-Ash-s-Dream-Crushers
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>>27887492
>>27887511
he's probably going to fight him or rematch him at some point and win. not that it'll matter though, the league is over
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>>27886401
It makes me sad looking at his picture.

Those cute plushes about to be burned.

But he has every reason to.
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>>27887342
True, but that doesn't change that it was and still is a target of shitposting.
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>>27887435
I hope they come up with a satisfactory conclusion for Amour too to be honest.
>>27887495
>Not having Serena look at the positives, even after Ash lost
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>>27887286
You got Marfan syndrome?
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>>27887529
BASED I joined the right ship
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>>27887129
Have Lysandre tell Alan that his charizard was only strong because of the mega energy he was collecting. Without the modified keystone he's nowhere near as strong.

Alan challenges Ash to prove him wrong and gets destroyed.
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>>27887495
She likes him the same, had he been mopping she'd been worried, just like when he was smiling she was repeating "daijobu".
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I think at this point after the madness that was the Kalos Ride, I'd be more than happy if Alola keeps things simple and gives Ash a reason to go there to vacation from this bullshit, just only taking on the Island Trials because he has nothing better to do to clear his mind after the bullshit of Kalos.

After all this, an island vacation arc is prob. what both Ash and we need more than anything else before Ash an heroes from losing for a SIXTH time.
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Ugh, now all those Misty fans/Pokeshippers who stopped watching at the end of Johto have something else to gloat about.

I really wanted to see those fuckers put in their place once and for all. But now with another lost league and Serena probably leaving, it was all for naught.
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>>27886401
>look greninja, i have my own blast burn, TRY TO DODGE IT, OH WAIT YOU CANT YOU STUPID FROG WHO CANT FUCKING JUMP
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>>27887414
Serena is becoming a shitty waifu despite being qt. You would think her feelings would be stronger but it feels as if Serena would abandon winning the Satoshibowl. Not a good sign because it shows that Serena isn't as close to Satoshi as she thinks she is.
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>my heart literally hurts
>was having a good day
>watch this
>all my good vibes are gone
>mom is acting like a cunt again yelling at me saying don't talk to her again
>tfw 26 and ash winning was the only bright thing in my life
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>>27887639
>Not a good sign
stale is that you?
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>>27887562
Serena isn't going to confess. Just forget that happening. At the very least she's looking to fly to the top of the Tower and free Ash so he can battle LYSANDRE
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>>27887542
I assume people like Tobias because he was supposed to steamroll Ash yet Ash managed to KO two legends. Although it was bullshit that Heracross didn't OHKO Darkrai when he landed the sleep-talk megahorn.
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>>27886252
Thats just TPCi doing damage control
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>>27887639

Her feelings weren't the problem, it's that Ash had no feelings for her. He wasn't fighting for anything beyond the league victory.
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>>27887691
The funny thing is Ash took down Darkrai who was dominating every trainer prior. But Ash never took down Mega Charizard even once.

I mean holy shit.
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>>27887639
Ah, stale so the preview made you give up on "Clemont looking badass in front of Serena".
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>>27887564
Yeah, found out about 2 years ago. A relative of mine died 2 weeks ago and its suspected he had it too. He was only 22. I just turned 23.
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>>27887713
Even if he had feelings for her it doesn't really change anything, because there's no reason to win for her either way.
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Are the producers getting away with this? Will the nuclear levels of mad nips do something?
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>>27887683
I didn't say she was going to confess.
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>>27887674
>>27887713
Honestly, Satoshi is a fucking loser. Serena deserves better, and that's the unfortunate message they want to send to people. They want Serena to give up because it's all hopeless? The reason why he lost was simple. Satoshi wasn't fighting for Serena, as much as I wanted him to. Alan deserved his win because he fought for Manon's cause.
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I'm fucking 30 years old. I really hoped by the time I was 30 Ash would win a league. Holy shit I am getting too old to follow this show.

For those of you still in your 20's I envy you, I don't know if you guys will see Ash win a league before you're 30 either.
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I think the best part of this league for me was the final moments of episode 36, with Ash and Alan walking up to face eachother in the finals and the screen pans to all the important characters ready to witness this historical spectacle with glorious violin music in the background. It felt like such a dignified moment of this entire series, it was really special to me.

Too bad it all went to shit in the end because muh patterns.
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>>27887832
>The reason why he lost was simple. Satoshi wasn't fighting for Serena, as much as I wanted him to.

Shipperfag please. The number of protags that that don't have a girl to fight for is pretty big.
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>>27887838
I'm 34 as of yesterday. I AM too old for this shit. I came back because of the hype.

But I can tell you I'm never watching the anime again. Fuck this noise. Fuck the writers. Fuck it. Fuck.
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>>27887832
Serena nor any of her Pokémon is dying if Ash didn't win, who's the Hari-san in Ash's motivation?
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>implying a Chairzard would lose in the anime

And you people wonder why there's so many Chairzard haters.
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>>27887761
God bless you, anon.
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>>27887899
More like falseflagging.
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>>27887838
I'm 21 and you bet i'll keep watching
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>>27887913
>implying ash's charizard wasn't as much a jobber as every other one of his pokemon
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>>27887951
6th gen chairzard is the most pandered one yet the two megas alone is enough to prove that
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>>27887951
This.

Remember Chariazard's embarassing job against Dusclops?
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At least give me a Serena fixing Ash smile scene at the end of the episode you fucking writers
>Everyone talking to ash
>ash lies and says hes ok bla bla i had fun
>everyone leave him alone
>Serena forgets something and goes back to the room
>Finds Ash really sad looking at the window
>Ash confesses he actually cant believe he lost
>Serena embraces him from behind
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>>27888057
Is Serena a futa in this fantasy?
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>>27888057
I wish.
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>>27888057
She'll have a chance to do something for him once he's captured by TF, the reality is, Serena was fine at the end because Ash wasn't mopping, if he had been sad she would've worried.
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>>27888090
>>27888095
>>27888120
>You are still a champion to me. My champion
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That fight did not make sense. Pikachu landed a critical and brought Zard down to its knee, Greninja got more hits in, AND used the MOTTO MOTTO orange shuriken. So, speculation time:
>Lysandre stealthily transfered mega evolution energy into Zard to make it a literal tank
>The mega energy that Alain was collecting roided up Zard without him knowing
>Lysandre rigged the stadium to make Alain advantageous in some way, during the explosions of smoke where there was no visibility
Any other ideas?
For fun of course, because who am I fucking kidding? Writers a shit and wouldn't have anything else in mind other than excusing it as "lol, winning isn't everything, kids" for the nth time
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Man Serena leaving would be the last straw. I mean I KNOW she'll likely leave, but when it happens in canon it will sting.

Another lost league, a blatant female shipping subplot that went nowhere. No way can this be salvaged.
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>>27888120

I sure hope so. For her to save Satoshi only to not accompany him sounds like a bad waifu. Ideally she should make good on her promise and remain by his side forever.

>>27888057
>Serena will never reveal her feelings

Such horrible writing. She would have made a perfect waifu.
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>>27886726
>>27886890
>>27887286
Promise us before you go.

You'll Allahu Japan with a bomb so powerful the entire country becomes a crater.

Crash that country, with no survivors.
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>>27888215
We'll see, but as it's many of her actions/reactions are dependant on Ash, just this episode, before Ash was going to send out Goodra she mentioned how everything was okay because he was still smiling.
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>>27887838
20 long years anon just watching a nerd to lose time after time it hurts
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>>27888184
>that image

Hmm... You know I drew something a lot fucking similar to that but it was Millefeui and Serena kissing.
I erased the picture a while ago but I swear if I still had it and overlayed it with that the outlines might add up...
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>>27887838
23 now, Alola won't have a league, 3/4 years for that to finish. Then another 3/4 years before a potential league. Yeah, not seeing a victory by 30.
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So, if Ash wins in Alola after all this, does that mean that this and OI confirm that Ash can only ever win if he's in an island region?
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>>27888275
Middle ones not me but sure I'll send my spirit energy that way.
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>>27888214
even if serena stays which is unlikely kalos will forever be remember as the season that promised and didn't delivered. so shit
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>>27887204
>Nobody will care for Sun/Moon besides new little kids.

That's literally their business model. They bank on a new generation of kids after the last generation grows up and fucks off.

What I don't understand is why Pokemon's model is so jarringly different from other popular kid shit like Precure and toku shows. MCs get replaced there all the time. Why is it such a big deal to them for Ash to be the MC for 20 fucking years?
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>>27888572
>>That's literally their business model.
Half of games sales are for old fans and not kids. Gf and company are just dicks who know the autists who play their games won't jump ship because there isn't real competition.
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>>27888572
To retain nostalgia fags and it works. Twitter is in flames with 20 somethings and some even in their 30s crying because Ash lost.
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