ITT: Moves that actually exist

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>>27845244

>GF wasted time programming a different colored false swipe instead trying to make a better game

Gen 6 was a mistake

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>Rototiller raises the Attack and Special Attack stats of all Grass-type Pokémon in the battle by one stage.

I didn't know this move existed until I went to the move relearner with my Excadrill to get Rapid Spin

>>27845307
wtf that's actually a cool move, I have literally never ever heard of it though ever

good job!

>>27845255
stop

>>27845244
fire, grass, and water pledge were strange to me to know they existed

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Its got a pretty cool animation too. If it worked like a Grass type Soak it would be better though.

>>27845269
>>27845254
everybody knows about these.

>>27845307
Good move.. but literally NO GRASS type pokemon learn it.

Just 5 normals.. and 2 ground types. Way to fail GF.

>>27845307
if something like ferroseed could learn this then people might actually use this move

>>27845356
>>27845269
>>27845254
I think this is meant to be a thread about forgotten moves. Nobody has forgotten these.

Quash.

>>27845374
Bad distribution, pretty much only useful for doubles/triples
Also a lot of the other pokemon that get it shouldn't be taking a support role and not a lot of good grass sweepers. Also most of the pokemon that learn it would be super susceptible to those grass pokemon. It's just an overall awful move

>>27845307
>Serperior, if choose you!
>Lopunny used Rototiller!

I can get behind this move

If florges could learn it, it would be the ultimate grass supporter

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Not only is this a signature move, it's a signature move of a special attacker

>>27845390
When the fuck has Forest Curse been talked about?

>>27845453
Everybody knows about Forest's Curse. It is the signature move of the the Trevenant line.

Earthquake

>>27845374
But in singles it would work the exact same way as growth, which a lot of grass Pokemon get. This is meant to be a move that a grass Pokemon's partner can use in doubles/triples.

>>27845458
wait what the fuck?

>>27845421
Are you forgetting something?
>Lopunny used Rototiller
>Serperior's Attack fell!
>Serperior's Special Attack Fell!

>>27845540
Fairy-type Mean Look exclusive to Klefki. It doesn't work on Ghosts.

Embargo
>Stops target using an item for 5 turns when Knock Off removes it completely
>Can be reflected by magic bounce, while Knock Off can't
>Effect wears off if the target switches out
>Doesn't work on mega stones
>Almost every pokemon that learns Embargo but not Knock Off is an attacking pokemon that can't use it

>>27845549
Nah I think he means it's a good move on Lopunny's part. Nobody would ever expect it.

>>27845550
It's a mean look that works for one turn.

>>27845557
To be fair, I think its meant more for in-game, since I think it blocks using Potions and stuff too.

>>27845443
I feel Popplio should get this as an early move. There's no point in it being a signature attack.

>>27845356
If you used this on Iceslash would it become 6x weak to fire?

>>27845482
>a move a single pokemon learns, which it never uses

>>27845612
8x actually

>>27845637
> Ice, Steel, and Grass
> 2x, 4x, 6x

>>27845657
Multiplicative, you fucking mong

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>>27845612
>use forest's curse on iceslash
>skill swap dry skin onto it

Kinesis.

>useless Abra line specific sand-attack
>despite being Abra line specific, the Abra line couldn't even learn it in RB

>>27845443
A signature move of a special attacker that doesn't even get STAB.

>>27845702
Hello, Rikaposter.

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>>27845683
>80% acc
>can only be learned from the move relearner

>>27845255
heh nice meme bro xD

>>27845374
No man no u wrong man 2 grass types learn it faggot and to be clear 2 bug types learn it to

>>27845674
>lvl 10 Charmander used Ember!
>Iceslash Fainted

>>27846116
Just give it an Occa Berry.

>>27846116
>A pokemon has a weakness

FUCKING GAMEFREAK HOW DO THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

Magnetic Flux?
A move that only benefits Plus/Minus and only two Plus/Minus learn it

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Not posting the king of forgettable moves

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Or this amazingly distributed move

>>27846289
Think it was less the weakness and more that if it somehow got dry skinned after the typing and a use of forest's curse, it would be at...what, x10 or x16 weakness there? Forget if dry skin multiplies or adds x2

Remember those Pledge attacks?
Yeah, me neither.

>>27846353
Genuinely the only time someone in this thread found a move I don't know.

>>27846353
Never heard of it, what does it do?

>>27846420
Literally Splash

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>>27846420

>>27845683
>Metronome exclusive move in RB
I had no idea this was even a thing. Are there any other moves like that?

>>27845390
They haven't yet because gen 6 is still recent, but don't worry it'll get forgotten quick enough.

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>not affected by protect

Jesus, I thought this was supposed to be a kid's game.

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Signature move of a shitmon? Check!

Special mentions to these other moves I just learned about:
Head Charge
Rock Wrecker
Storm Throw
Synchronoise
Night Daze
Petal Blizzard
Venom Drench

>>27846488
would be good without the massive recoil

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anyone knew this move existed?

>>27845541
>have to consume a berry first
Fuck off

>>27845443
>yfw alola form gets dragonator hidden ability

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Happy Hour has to take the cake.
Event-exclusive move that does nothing except doubling your prize money at the end of the battle.

>>27845269
>he doesn't know the horror of Whimsicott Memento

>>27846407
1.3

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Venom drench
Gen 6 move that's only learnable by 6 pokemon, all from older generations.
It also only works when the opponent is already poisonned.

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>>27846676
>The user covers the target in a powder that explodes and damages the target if it uses a Fire-type move.
interesting move. Never heard of that one before.

>>27846691
Well, that move IS forgotten.

>>27846544
can gardevoir learn this just asking haha

>>27846691
>body blow

>>27846731
Litterally overused in maison doubles and triples for an autowin compo.

>>27846603
>Petal Blizzard
>90 BP 100 Acc physical grass move
>Only learned by special attackers

LIKE
COCK
WORK

LITERAL POTTERY

>>27845356
They might change it, Generations often tweak move mechanics.

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>>27846721

>>27846544
>hooves
>feelers
But...how?

The only moves I hadn't heard of where Rototiler and Celebrate...the rest of you are straight up retarded

>>27846716
Showderp uses it on Mega Beedrill sets all the time.

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>The user and an ally hold hands. This makes them very happy.
Best move ever

>>27846835
Literally just an event-exclusive version of Splash
This wins.

>>27846644
Does this stacks with amulet coin?

Sounds kinda useful then honestly

>>27846865
sharpen needs a buff. maybe have it increase crit chance as well?

>>27846857
It does. At least it actually does something, unlike the other event-exclusive moves Hold Hands and Celebrate whose only purpose is to show a cute animation.

>>27846700
That's solid support move for doubles to support pokemon like Scizor, too bad its only learned by Vivillion which got all kind of good moves and even Friend Guard ability, but horrible defenses so it cant really use any of it effectively.

>>27846603
Life orb Jolly Cinccino is actually decent though

>>27846904
Since it has very limited distribution and only given to shit pokes like Porygon, Avalugg, and Carbink, it should be something like +2 attack and +1 crit or accuracy.

Diance wouldn't run it anyway.

>>27846371
Honestly good fun on a bulky starmie meme set

>>27846991
>starmie meme
>not starmeme

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>shitty rock type recharge move
>only on fucking rhypherior and dwebble line
This one is a new one to me.

>>27845657
Holy shit kill yourself, it's 2x2x2 = 2^3 = 8 you fucking retarded.

Quash
Conversion and Conversion2
Mirror Move
Payday
Clamp
Mega punch and mega kick
Camouflage
Lovely kiss
Rolling kick
Mimic
Octazooka
Present
Triple kick
Spider web
Smelling salts
Aromatic mist
Comet punch
Electrify

Apparently signature moves almost never tend to be useful.

>>27847076
>Forgetting Delibird's only level up move
Someone didn't play Gen 2.

>>27847108
Delibird itself is forgettable.

Also spike cannon

>>27847076

>lovely kiss
>payday
>forgettable

I haven't heard of almost any of the moves listed in this thread.

I've put at least 350 hours into Gen VI, how is this possible

>>27847135
>Delibird itself is forgettable.
Maybe if you are literally 17.

>>27846992
This plus bulky drapion is pretty ebin

>>27846618
Yes, but hell if I remember what it does. Must be super useless if I haven't bothered memorizing it.

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>>27846544
>move only learned by an event Charizard, Pikachu and Vivillion
>"The user and an ally hold hands. This makes them very happy."
>has no battle effect
the animation doesn't even look good enough to waste a turn on. Why.

>>27845541
this move is kind of hot

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>>27847182
What next oh wise one? Qwilfish isn't totally forgettable either?

>>27847299
>Qwilfish isn't totally forgettable either?
Definitely not, underagefag. The only gen 2 pokemon that could be considered forgettable would be Stantler.

>Arm thrust
at least the two references are there.

>>27847331
Not even cleffa or igglybuff eh?

>underagefag
Don't even know why I'm replying to you.

vacuum wave is pretty dumb since its not good on anything and its the only special priority move. it doesn't really need to exist

>>27847045
Showderp uses it on Rhyperior called Wreck it Ralph and some autists always posts "IM GONNA WRECK IT" when he uses it

>>27847375
Mega lucario

>>27846992
This doesn't apply if you're on showderp at all.

>>27847375
>the only special priority move. it doesn't really need to exist

that's wrong, special priority should be a thing, just for balance

it's not that "it doesn't need to exist", but rather "special attacking fighting types need to exist"

>>27847420
>Think Fast
>Psychic
>50 BP
>User attains the opponent's mind at high speed. May cause flinching.
>Priority

>>27847456
Attacks*

>>27847420
Nah special priority is dumb. The few we have is enough.

Special Pokemon are not by any means worse off than Physical mons. They don't need a buff. Priority is just one of the perks of Physical. One of the benefits of Special is that Pokemon typically have less Special Def than Defense.

>>27845307

>4 kanji just to say "plow"

sasuga Japanese language

>>27847528
That is 4 hiragana, not kanji, you dumb oaf.

Plow is just one kanji- 鋤

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>>27847528
>>27847548
get lit up fake weeaboo

>>27847548
>>27847616

man, that was like zero effort at all

I should do this more often

>>27845683
>despite being Abra line specific, the Abra line couldn't even learn it in RB
They could, it's just that there was no way to find wild Kadabra on low enough levels in the actual game.

>>27847647
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>27846644
shit, I would throw this on a teammate
>they never gave an event Meowth that knows it.

>>27846857
It does, and it's a pretty decent move. Back before hacking mons was possible, fan distros of Happy Hour Smeargles that had sketched it off the only event mon to know it at the time were common. Use it in the restaurants to get rich quick.

Seriously you have to be pretty fucking new to not know that move.

I wish they would stop making worthless doubles-only moves and abilities. They are never used in doubles, and Pokemon unfortunately enough to have a meme ability for doubles are automatically shit for singles more often than not.

Latest victim: Alola Raichu.

>>27847123
Also used by Showderp in some sets.

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>>27846116
Not quite there, even when you double the damage to account for Forest's Curse added Grass typing (the calculator can't show that).
Any ideas?

>>27847690
According to a leak, they'll be distributing a Happy Hour Meowth from Alola at World's

>>27847731
Alola Raichu learning Electric Terrain could make it fun for in-game, and for all we know several pokemon could get it as an ability like Tapu Koko and it becomes a legit weather move.

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>>27846938
>Porygon
>shit

>>27847647
>not knowing the "pretending to be a retard" law

>>27847786
>Alola Raichu learning Electric Terrain
It's obviously meant for a team mate to lay down electric terrain. Unless you think fucking Raichu could last a turn setting up and then start a sweep, or that electric terrain useful good enough to warrant having that bug thing on your team to set up.

>>27846676
I used this on my Klefki on my vgc team and had great success with it.

>>27847827
I've thought about running on a smeargle for doubles/triples for an unexpected surprise move.

>>27846700
That's because only Vivillon can learn it

>>27847843
Why use it over Taunt?

>>27847765
oh that makes me happy

>>27847868
It's a doubles move. Vivillon is doubles pokemon, which means it is automatically shit since nobody uses doubles pokemon.

>>27845244
I've noticed that a lot of the forgetful moves come from gen 6

>>27845612
>>27845657
This board is a heaping slice of stupid pie.

>>27847884
priority, blocking non attacking moves from everything, synergizes with other odd moves like teeter dance.

I'm not sure if it blocks perish song but if so there's also that.

>>27846700
This was great for fucking with Blaziken shitters when XY was fresh, running it on Vivillions

>>27847843
I've tried Smeargle out with imprison and transform but it's really not as effective as I wanted it to be.

>>27847884
Taunt works on one Pokemon, Crafty shield has priority and protects your team. It's also unexpected. You can bait out status moves or set ups and sweep turn one, on occasion. My team was all gimmick all the time (Klefki, Mr Mime, Misdreavus, Manectric, Rotom and something else) and it was a hot mess, but it was hilarious when it worked.

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I've never seen this move used in any setting

>>27846661
Explain pls

>>27845356
That bunnelby's face would make a good reaction image if you could scale it up.

>>27847936
ah. it doesn't block perish song. darn.

>>27846992

>Evasion

BANNED

>>27847375

No the problem is there isn't enough special attacking fighting types to utilize it

I meant why the fuck does Machamp get it

>Electric Terrain doesn't benefit Pokemon who aren't grounded through being a Flying-type or Levitating

>The two Pokemon who have become synonymous with it are a flying rooster totem and a levitating surfing mouse.

I know mechanics =/= appearance since Gen I, but this fucking bugs me to hell.

>>27848257
pokephysics never make sense.

>>27848257
>synonymous with it
>a flying rooster totem
I don't follow
It makes sense with Raichu though, since it surfs electric waves and the electric terrain turns the field into electric waves.

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Only learned by Florges, Sunflora and Cherrim. Genuinely never heard of it.
I genuinely never saw it before when I looked up Cherrim the other day.

>>27848319
that would be pretty good for a mono grass team in triples/doubles

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Reminder that the pledge moves still exist.

>>27847904
How is it a Doubles move? Its basically a one-turn guaranteed hit yourself in confusion if they use a Fire move. And theres zero priority Fire moves, so it doesnt have to worry about speed.
Only use in doubles is blocking a predicted heatwave, which you couldve just used Wide Guard.

>>27848314
Tapu Koko's ability sets up Electric Terrain, similar to the Weather trio

>>27847004
>Staryume. Bedroom. Now.

>>27848414
Yeah, alright.. It doesn't levitate and it's not a flying type though. I guess it is designed in such a way that it's not touching the ground, but it's not far off of it.
Yeah, I suppose that is a little annoying.

>>27848390
I used fire/water for Maison triples once and cheesed the fuck out of the Chatelaine with Rock Slide spam

>>27848390
The pledge moves are fine as an experiment. To be fair, if the games were actually about battling and not just about reflecting the world with collectible monsters then making moves affect each other as battles go on would be the next logical step and would make competitive way more interesting. It's not really a direction Pokemon needs to go in, though.

>>27848343
Grass has some good doubles support. They get Grassy Terrain too.

>>27847076
>Smelling salts

I love this move. Force Palm+Smelling Salts was hilarious.

>>27848390
Venusaur/Mega Charizard Y has a fantastic Pledge combo in doubles, though. I could never forget those moves, even if I must admit I can't remember what combos other than Grass+Fire do.

>>27848676
I would love it if they added synchronization with moves in game. like using electric moves with surf to enhance the damage or increase the chance to hit.

>>27847045
Is that the background to Lysandre's battle?

>>27848726
Or covering weaknesses like by using fire-spin on your own water Pokemon to make physical grass moves less effective.

>>27848940
Everyone remembers trick room.

>>27845307
>>27845356
>>27845458
>>27846618
>>27848039
>>27848319
>>27848940

most of these forgettable moves are just focused for use in doubles and triples

>>27846888
Or maybe add a Rough Skin/Rocky helmet effect which stacks with every additional use (until the user is switched out). Using the move once will not be as strong as RS/RH, but sharpen times 6 will reflect 100 percent of the inflicted damage (or less, but enough for the move and set up to be relevant). I think it could be cool..

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>>27846544

>>27845549
That'd make it good in singles too then. Fuck contrary serp.

>>27846618
I only remembered it when Alola Raichu was introduced.

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>>27846691
>they've buffed Tackle over the years and now it outclasses moves like Cut

>>27846603
Must have never used skill link/kings rock combo. Literally the funniest troll hax mon ever.

>>27846644
I wish that it had the added effect of confusing the user and the opponent.

>>27849322
that was electric terrain, not ion deluge

>>27846805
I remember back when XY were new, I thought someone was making a sneaky pebbles-type joke about another move the first time I saw it mentioned.

>>27849453
or it makes all pokemon on the field use their consumable/usable items immediately (also mega stones).
Would fit the happy hour theme!

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>>27845541
I remember when this was back in the XY leaks and was actually fought about. Now no one uses or remembers it.

>>27848940
more like ROOM for improvement, amirite?

>>27849337
It has the same strength as cut though.

>>27846603

>Head Charge
Great on dinos.

>Synchronoise
Was fun as hell during the electric-type tournament, ran it on my Jolteon.

>Petal Blizzard
I run that shit on my Bellossom for horde hunting. Works wonders for EV training.

>>27849943
I didn't play the Electric tournament, but Synchronoise was great on Gardevoir in the Fairy tournament.
Nigh-unresisted, STAB 120 BP.

>>27849367
This. Skill link pretty much immediately turns it from a shitmon into pure annoyance.

>>27845307
Dugtrio @ Focus Sash
Arena Trap
Adamant/Timid
252Atk/252Speed/4HP
~Rototiller
~Reversal
~Rock Slide/Sucker Punch
~Earthquake

Pair him with any Grass type (Mega Venusaur or Sceptile are my favs), Roto turn 1 unless you'll be outsped then hit Reversal for that 200bp move. Roto when threats are gone to beef your grass.

Idk if it's any good but shit, I love the concept.

>>27845344
Shut the fuck up.

They didn't even bother to make it a different type so that you could atleast use it on ghost types.

>>27846992

You know this if you had an AI-controlled Skorupi on your team in Explorers of Sky.

Jesus fucking Christ. Nightmarish.

>>27847123
>Desc: Builds a wall which immediately kills all ground types and Lotad evos

>>27845674
Skill swap fluffy instead

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>>27849823
Without the shitty 95 accuracy of Cut, and more PP then Cut, hence it outclassing the shitty HM. Cut needs a minor buff.

>>27852086
>Cut becomes Grass
>60Bp
>100 Acc
>10% critical chance

Is it good

>>27852859
There's no reason to make it grass. It would make more sense to make it super effective against grass.

>>27852859

You don't have to make it a grass type attack, but make it like Freeze Dry, where it's super effective against a certain type. Grass would be pretty nice though. There's no real physical Grass attacks, but Cut w/Technician would change that.

It'd be pretty decent on some Technician users if it got the 60bp buff too.

>>27852859
>>27852943
Make it a Steel-type move that's also super-effective on Grass-types, a la Freeze-Dry.
Rocks types are now also less of a problem early-game, so Gamefreak no longer has an excuse to lock out the good rock-types.

>>27845779
And its a move to LOWER accuracy

>>27853044
>There's no physical Grass Type Attacks
>Seed Bomb
>Leaf Blade
>Wood Hammer

>>27846618
Wow the Japanese name is so much cooler

>>27848139
Not actually banned

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I use this in Triples on my stupid sturdinja team. Not only can it be used to make Shedinja immune to leech seed, but it can also make opponents weak to x-scissor. It's not really useful, but you don't really need all 6 pokemon on a sturdinja team anyway.

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>>27853044
>>27853139
You forgot
>Bullet Seed
>Power Whip
>Horn Leech

Hell, lets top it all off with something that's relevant to this thread.

Petal Blizzard is especially great because nothing that learns it has a higher physical attack that special attack.

Remember how Gamefreak thought people would waste a moveslot on Ally Switch? Remember how they thought that was such a good idea they made it a TM?

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>>27847076
>All of these Gen 1 and 2 moves you don't know
So you started with RSE then, right?
For the record, Mirror Move wasn't that bad in gens 1 and 2 because of the stat experience system. You can drill peck a Starmie/Nidoking to take them down to around 60%, take the tbolt/ice beam, and mirror move it back at them for the kill.

The biggest problem with Mirror Move is that it stops working if the opponent switches. If it were like Mimic but automatically learns the last move you were hit with and it persists until you switch/the end of the match, it would still be useful.

>>27845374
Cacnea gets it as an egg move

>>27847786
>>27847825
>6th gen volt-turn teams
I want it.

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>>27847375
Vacuum Wave is decent on things like Endure/Reversal sets, because you don't want to risk Rocky Helmet/Iron Barbs/Effect Spore to get that last hit if they have a sash or something.


>All these moves that you people don't know
How is this even possible? You play the games, right?

This thread does get me thinking, though. What if there were a main game where pretty much every battle, perhaps excluding wild battles, were doubles matches? All of these moves and abilities which most people just ignore because the main game is singles would suddenly have an in-game use. It's not like there are any singles-only abilities, so every move and ability would be useful in-game. There would be a lot more creativity in terms of how in-game teams could be constructed, and opponents would be able to give all of those moves and abilities more exposure.

>>27854061
Just having more options for double battles outside the post game would be welcome to me.

>>27846835
Even better - it can only be used in a Double or Triple Battle

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>>27848940
Magic Room is workable, it's a shame that the mons who get it are so weak though. What you do is
>Hold a Choice Scarf so you can set up MR quickly
>U-turn out or explode or something
>Switch to something holding a choice item, like Scarf Porygon-Z or Banded Haxorus
>Boost up with e.g. Nasty Plot or Dragon Dance
>When the MR wears off, pick what you want to be choice-locked into
Choice items are x1.5, not +1 stage. What that means is, if you get to +2 Attack and are holding a Band, you're effectively at +4 Attack. If you get to +6 with Belly Drum or something and are holding Band, you're effectively at +10.

+10 Azumarill Aqua Jet is nothing to laugh at. It can be difficult to get working without Screens support, and the mons with MR tend to not be so good.

>>27848390
hey at least they upped the power to 80. it helped my sceptile a lot in ORAS since energy ball isn't until you have both bikes

>>27845443
A signature move that is a physical move for a special attacker that the Kanto champion used on his Exeggutors moveset.

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>>27845674
>Sunny day

>>27847528
Those are kana, dipshit.

>>27845374
Cacnea as an egg move, Paras if you chain breed

>>27854322
That's a pretty interesting combo, never looked at it that way.
Shame you have to jump through so many hoops to make it happen.

>>27848940
Trick room with Gyro Ball is how I used Bronzong. Never will forget it because that was the only thing usable on it.

>>27847123
Holy hell, it's summoning Exodia

>>27849186
this justified the existence of that move

>>27853058
Make it bug like fury cutter and x scissor, easy niche

>>27847217
Makes all Normal-type moves used on the field Electric-type for the remainder of the turn.

Might be fun with a Charge/Follow Me + Last Resort/Ion Deluge STAB combo.

>>27855610
I always wanted to try an Electivire+Electrode combo.
Vire setting Ion Deluge up with its increased priority, Electrode Exploding, dealing damage and getting Motor Drive going.

>>27846743
I use it with my EV trainer Venusaur.

- Sweet Scent
- Earthquake
- Petal Blizzard

I use sweet scent to invoke a horde, if it's not flying or immune to Ground, I use Earthquake, if yes, Petal Blizzard.

One-shot all 5 Pokémon and rinse and repeat

>>27855683
I have basically the same Venusaur.
Only added Worry Seed to check for HAs in hordes.

>Flame Wheel
>Octazooka
>Sky Uppercut
>Egg Bomb and Barrage
What's the point of making fancy moves when they're useless or hardly distributed?

>>27855826
Flame Wheel and Sky Uppercut are hardly forgotten moves.

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>>27845254
How else would I x4 a Palkia

>>27846731
Is that Flannery's Gym? How can we double battle there?

>>27854061
>What if there were a main game where pretty much every battle, perhaps excluding wild battles, were doubles matches?
So another Orre game? Because common doubles strategies are used by the NPCs on Mt. Battle in Colosseuum and Gale of Darkness, and the Battle CDs test for unorthodox strategies. I pity the unwary trainer in Colosseum that let the final boss Skill Swap Own Tempo onto his Slaking.

>>27847045
Surprised most of /vp/ doesn't know about this move. I used a Rhyperior in Platinum and a Crustle in White 2 so I guess that's why its so memorable to me

>>27855853
No, it was a bit unrelated, but it's upsetting that GF makes so many useless moves which otherwise would have been neat.

>>27855968
A reasonable amount of moves are fairly useful throughout the main game.
Flame Wheel is like an early Flare Blitz, etc.

On the other hand, I literally have nothing for Barrage. Maybe Alola Exeggutor can make use of it somehow, but I doubt it. Egg Bomb is amazingly awful as well. Flavour attacks are one thing, but I agree that some of them are just bad for the sake of being bad.

>>27847123
Yungoos better learn this

>>27845244
>A literal reskin of False Swipe
>Not even Dark type for full coverage

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>restores hp based on weather
How unknown is this? It might be very well know and I'm just autistic but I never knew about it until I checked for moves that were retroactively changed into fairy type

>>27856279
It's fairly well known, I'd say.
Getting a gen 6 Clefairy with Soft-Boiled is impossible, I think, so Moonlight is your only non-Rest healing option.

>>27845356
Trick or Treat and Forest's Curse are more niche than Soak. Soak is more about removing your opponent's STAB while these two are more about setting them up for more damage by giving them an extra weakness.

>>27845557
It's meant for in-game. I've only used it once though. It was against Clay in Black version when I had no grass types and most of my team was quite able to be rekt by his.

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>>27856320
What about this?

>>27856537
Yeah, that one's a bit more obscure, doubly so because it's pretty damn shit. Like a weirder, less useful Trick.
I don't even know what learns Bestow.

>>27856591
Reminder that Florges has an ability that's auto-Bestow towards a partner mon

>>27856279
I have moonlight on my umbreon and he is top level wall.

>>27845244
Hold back is just for catching mons, and certain glitches like Pomeg if you want to wait to be poisoned.

Attack Order, Defend Order, and Heal Order

Three signature moves for the regional bug shitmon. THREE.

>>27851295
hilarious and original.

drink bleach.

>>27856954
go away pedro.

>>27856831
Aren't they all just reskins of existing moves though?

>>27857133
I have no clue, they're stupid either way though

>>27857214
I think it's a neat gimmick to attack, defend, and heal with bees.
We need another bee pokemon, Beedrill is a wasp and does not count.

>>27845244
It was on the Beldum that everyone got with ORAS, not unknown.

>>27845269
Is a viable and often used move in singles in particular, not unknown unless you never battle singles

>>27845307
>>27846618
>>27846676
>>27848039
>>27848319
Pretty unknown, a lot of the gen 6 doubles moves are.

>>27845443
>>27846451
>>27846451
>>27846691
>>27846865
Yes but it's been around since gen 1, so most people are familiar with it existing.

>>27845254
>>27845356
>>27845541
>>27846700
This was a topic in pre XY discussions, not obscure

>>27846353
>>27846544
>>27846644
Pure meme move only on distributed pokemon, pretty obscure

>>27846371
Obscure move, probably because it has a weird distribution across a lot of pokemon who can't really take advantage of it (staryu, gastly, omanyte, stunfisk, tentacool lines plus latias, mew and castform) due to already having really deep movepools and not having room for it. I bet you could make it work on a tentacruel set though.

>>27846488
Pretty obscure considering the one pokemon with it was never released.

>>27846603
Not a shitmon and not an obscure move. This thing was used to introduce hidden abilities in grottoes in gen 5.

>>27846675
>>27846716
>>27846805
Dogshit move with bad distribution, obscure.

>>27846731
Signature move of an extremely popular pokemon that is actually quite useful in doubles. Not that obscure.

>>27846992
Not obscure because a certain very popular Drapion set uses it.

>>27847045
Not obscure, choice band rock wrecker rhyperior was actually a thing in gen 4. Very good at punching through walls since none of the good physical walls in gen 4 resisted it and literally nothing that's not a wall wants to take a hit from that.

>>27847123
Eevee, an obscenely popular pokemon, learns it by level up. Not obscure.

>>27848940
trick room has entire teams built around it as a strat, it's a shitty strategy but has been around for 3 generations. Wonder and Magic rooms are more niche but also viable.

Belch

Didn't even know it existed until I got a Slowpoke with it in Wondertrade

It's a poison move with 120 bp, but has to use up a held berry in order to work

>>27853663
Remember how they fucked up and gave Beheyem Steel Wing??

>>27857715
TM51, Area 51, I doubt something like this isn't intentional.
>>27856792
Wasn't there a glitch that gave you two items at once using that?

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>>27857412
>this entire post

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Basically an inverse gyro ball that goes up to 150 BP if you have x4 more speed than them.

I'd start with Galvantula to use Electro Web and switch out with Volt Switch, bring in a Dragonite with Thunder Wave, Roost, and Dragon Tail to paralyze everything and Aqua Tail to deal with ground types, then bring the Galvantula back in to BP 150 everything to death. Was terrible, but fun.

>>27857656
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>>27858149
>Electro Web
meant to type Sticky Web.

>>27858216
There's no tripcode in that post you idiot

>>27846888
It could drastically raise the attack stat like Cotton Guard and Tail Glow. It's not like the move has the distribution to be abused.

>>27858216
thx

>>27857412
>Cinccino not a shitmon
>Wonder and Magic rooms are more niche but also viable.
Thanks for the chuckle mate

You're mostly right, but reflect type is pretty well known amongst singles players because reflect type mega latias and starmie are useable

All the terrains. It's funny and kind of sad just how few people knew about these things when shown in the Tapu Koko trailer.

As for potential interesting usages, Whimsicott seems like it could be the master of terrains. With Prankster and Nature Power, it could have a priority boosted Thunderbolt, priority STAB Moonblast, or a priority boosted STAB Energy Ball.

I just wish they were more useful.

>>27849943
>Great on dinos.
wrang move

>>27846700
Viola spams it on her Vivillion so you're stopped from Ember-ing her ace.

>>27847764

Blaze/Solar Power

>>27848723
Water/Grass halves the opponent's speed, Water/Fire doubles your moves chances of secondary effects

>>27845244
>Endure

What for?

>>27859507
Specifically designed to be paired with Flail and Reversal.

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>>27858149
>He thinks one of Ash's Pikachu's moves is fucking obscure
How the hell did you come to that conclusion?

>>27858487
>Malmar's signature and a staple in BH
>Common in Triples since it hits all opponents
>Signature moves of legendaries are somehow obscure
Crush Grip is fair, I'm pretty sure Regigigas learns it but it's awful either way.

>>27859507
Hitting with Reversal/Flail maybe? I can't really think of much else where it would be useful.

>>27858754
Cinccino is one of the better mons in 1v1. Mine is @King's Rock, T-wave, Tail Slap, bullet seed, rock blast and it's very reliable. It has a great niche, but you obviously don't know that.

>>27845356
Huh. just checked and that shuckle thing where it does the most damage is very, very slightly overtaken by a rayquaza with v-create using it on a level 1 iceshrew in the sun, with dry skin and forest curse. If shuckle can copy v-create with mimic, it can do it even better. neato

>>27857656
>only 2 stars
Lmao

>>27848076
Memento is a really good move and not many people understand why. The best part about it is actually the part where it kills you. This essentially gives you a free switch-in on their Pokemon since a -2/-2 Mon is going to be weak as fuck. Especially with a Whimsichott that probably spammed a bunch of status ailments before hand.

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>>27859507
>>27859559
>>27859529
It's also good if you have e.g. Iron Barbs/Effect Spore or a pinch berry. Lv.1 Nosepass with Pain Split, Sturdy, and an hp-restoring berry use Endure to take them down to 1 HP and activate the berry in the case of e.g. SR damage on switching in. I've also seen it used to get the buff from Swarm.

>>27847358

I could never forget Cleffa or Igglybuff.

Those fuckers were everywhere when GSC were released.

>>27859549
People watch the anime?

>>27859875
Yes, people do.

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>>27846618
I used to have a motor drive emolga with this on it, shit was cash.

Basically just make sure you're faster than your opponent, like a snorlax or something coming at you with a normal move, use encore and then ID, soak up the speed and then baton pass the fuck outta there onto something that can make use of it.

>>27859700
One other thing - it's somewhat useful in doubles/triples because Protect shields you from ally-targeting moves as well. For example, Protect blocks Heal Pulse, so if you're on 25% HP and you Endure + get hit by an ally's heal pulse, you end up a little better off.

>>27859945
Wouldn't it be better to just use agility

>>27859993
Only if you're retarded.
>Leftovers recovery
>Encored, so you know what they'll be forced to use
>Forces switches
>Not getting hurt

You could even put Toxic on that set and just kill things by stalling them out while they can't hurt you back.

>>27860097
But you get hit on the turn you use encore, no? Plus that's so situational when agility will always work

>>27860097
How many Pokemon even carry Normal moves in this day and age that aren't Normal types themselves and want the STAB?
I remember Return being a popular filler move on movesets, way back in 3rd fucking gen, but that's about it. Seems situational as fuck.

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>>27860176
>had a delcatty on my current team in OR
>battle my brother
>he megas his swampert
>use assist
>crits it with by calling my sceptile's leaf blade and one-shots it before it can attack
>the anger caused my smug pink cat
no better feeling

>>27860176
>He doesn't remember Lagging Tail/Prankster/Assist teams
Did you just get here? Shadow Force/Fly/Dig as the only moves on your team make you unkillable unless they have priority, great for annoying kids online.
Alternatively, bring a Ditto and transform into their SR user. Throw SR down on their side of the field and then switch to a Prankster Assist user with Roar as the only move on your team it can call.
They've taken all that out of subsequent games, but it was fun while it lasted.

>>27845244
>>27845307
>>27845458
>>27845541
>>27846353
>>27846371
>>27846618
>>27846675
>>27846676
>>27846700
>>27846865
>>27848039
>>27848319
What le fug?

>>27849794
>Now no one uses or remembers it.

The logistics of getting someone viable with gluttony to have belch seems a little tedious.

>>27857929
Sort of. It makes certain items activate twice if Eject Button is what activates the ability

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Symbiosis_(Ability)

>>27860869
Manaphy
also prankster baton pass
low-quality post

>>27861093
>Doesn't remember perish-trapping
This was the easiest way to break a stall core in Gen 2 using mean look Misdreavus. It was also used semi-regularly in Stadium 2.
I feel like people are just posting random attacks in the hope of getting replies.

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>>27847123
>Trump Card
>PP: 5

>>27861501
>1
baka desu senpai

>>27848811
Wide slash is top notch though, hits all Pokemon for neutral damage and can hit ghosts inside walls. It's literally a better normal type.

>>27859507
Weakness Policy still activates. When you find a Pokemon with Unburden and Endure or Ninjask gets an actual moveset we'll talk.

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>>27861093
>he didn't play Mystery Dungeon
Politoed can go eat a 12 inch dick. Low accuracy move my asshole. The worst part is it can wipe out your entire party and you can't do a damn thing about it. It's fucking bullshit. Switch out? Hah you don't seem to remember which game you're playing.

>>27863831
heal seeds cure it.

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I like to use this on Plus Amphy with chestorest, charge beam, and hidden power Ice to mess with people, but even I can admit it's just another meme build

>>27846454
No. The only reason this happened was because Abra couldn't learn more moves in RB, and kinesis was a starting move for Kadabra. Since you couldn't find wild kadabra in RB, only ever see this move randomly through metronome. I think wild kadabra may have appeared in Japanese RB, and they added wild kadabra to yellow.

Also if I recall you could teach kadabra kinesis through Stadium's one-time move relearner.

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>>27845356
pretty sure with forest's curse it'd be a OHKO