I miss the gen V days, /vp/

>>27784805
Same, its such a solid generation (though i do like VI aswell just not as much as V)

>>27784805
If it weren't for the anime, Gen 5 would've been an amazing gen. And people complaining there weren't previos gen pokes in the game. Have you ever heard of new region and isolated evolution ?

>>27784805
>free space

This is the most fucking underrated feature there is.

Still the best gen by far

>>27784805
>If it weren't for the anime, Gen 5 would've been an amazing gen
Good thing nobody with a brain and over the age of 18 cares about the Ashnime.

Gen 5 best gen.

It was a great gen. I won't miss the weather wars though.

>>27784805
Can we just appreciate how nice a touch this was?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-VQ5-UWm0s

>>27784849
I also like gen VI. The graphics, PSS, Super Training and Amie were pretty cool.
But it was insultingly easy and it had zero (0) postgame. So you beat the game in literally 3 days and tehre is nothing else to do. No content at all.

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>>27784805
It's always hard when the journey begins

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>>27784962
Man, they put a lot of effort into gym leaders for gen V.
Then we got these.
And then they were just deleted.

>>27784805
Don't forget habitat list

>>27784962
Last Pokemon theme holy fuck

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>>27784805
You may think Rosa is the best playable waifu in the games. However, I disagree!

>>27785031
You're right it's Colress

>>27784805
Bianca, Shauntal and Rosa make Gen 5 the best gen.

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>We will most likely never have a generation as good as V, although SM seems to be taking a step in the right direction compared to gen VI.

I honestly thought they were going for a more sciency route with mega evolution, with Colress talking about the hidden power of Pokemon. Instead we got muh magic meteorites

>>27784805
>Pokemon mexico
???

>>27785247
Pretty sure OP is referring to Lentimas town

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>>27785247

>>27785189
You're right. Mega evolution would have fitted perfectly with Colress' research. It would have connected both stories and the lore would make more sense.

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Is this the gen V appreaciation thread?

>>27784871
The anime has fuck-all to do with the game features. Why do you care?

Replaying Black now and I feel like I'm being stopped after every little thing.

It's honestly starting to piss me off a bit. I just want to travel the fucking region. I really want SM to stop this trend but I don't see it happening.

>quadrupedal samurai
>the third fire/fighting in a row
>ice cream and trashbag
>a fucking circle
>conkelshit line
>the fucking genies

I could make the list longer but I won't, you guys have shit taste.

B2/W2 have the most postgame out of any pokemon game.
And they're filled with fanservice and many little touches. The PWT for example was GOAT.

>>27785031
I smell a new mechanic for the gen 8 Unova remakes!

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>>27785870
>conkelshit line
say that again motherfuker, not online and see what happens

>>27785870
>uses swears to describe things he doesn't like
Underaged detected

>>27785870
>caring this much about pokemon designs
>pokemon that you don't even have to use
>ignoring all the gameplay improvements that gen V brought to the table

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I don't know what's wrong with me. I bought Black 2 and beat it, but why do I remember nothing about it? Not the leaders, not the rival, definently nothing about dating.

How much are used Black/White 2 nowadays anyway?

>>27786063
I don't remember the dating stuff either, but I do remember the leaders, the the rivals and the postgame being GOAT.

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Easily my favourite gen.

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>>27786063
>>27786104
Poor souls

>>27786104
The dating stuff was a side quest where you found a lost xtranseiver and you got calls from the owner.

>>27786149
I'll have to replay.. Maybe my mind wasn't in the right state.

I do remember Roxie though, because she's a freaking cutie.

>>27786189
Yo I remember something like that.

>>27786063
There is so much postgame and content in these two games that its very possible that you didnt get to play everything.

I played it a lot, then bought and finished X and I still had things to finish in B2, then after ORAS I still returned to my B2. The postgame offered a lot.

If only Gen 5 had good Pokemon it would be perfect

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>>27785870
>8'2'' quadrupedal centipede
>hoodlum who don't give a fuck
>shapeshifting black fox
>jousting beetle
>ninja slug
>electric spider
>dinosaur with axe tusks
>giant ancient automaton
>chess-based knight with sword arms
>ant made of metal
>solar deity moth
>cyborg beetle
>hydreigon


Yeah we have shit taste

Could make a list twice as long for Gen IV

>>27784805
>>quadrupedal samurai
>>the third fire/fighting in a row

Hmm doesn't like gen V and doesn't like the idea of a quadrupedal Samurai or the 3rd fire fighting starter....what about sun and moon? Are you one of those people who like the non quadrupedal cat and 4th fighting based starter? Gen V, especially the sequels, were excellent games despite the pokemon in the generation and the starter evolutions. Ignoring the evolutions and the pokemon you didnt like, were the games stories not enjoyable for you? If not thats ok, it is your opinion after all. Sun and moon is looking to be amazing but the problem is people are looking at the leaked starters and saying the game is going to be shit now. The game is looking to be great and we don't even know what its made up of! The pokemon arent the sole factor on whether or not the game will be good. You also said the ice cream and trash bag were shit, yea they're simple designs and I don't like Trubish myself, but what about Voltorb who's literally a pokeball, or Grimer who's literally a pile of sludge? Are they more appealing to you? They fit their design through the purpose of what they are, and that doesn't make gen V any worse then what you imagine it to be. I'll admit Gen Vs pokemon weren't the best in the series, but the overall games as a whole were fantastic

>>27786216
I didn't finish victory road. Hell, now I gotta find my copy and restart.

What I also remember is that it made me appreciate some Gen 5 pokemon like Levanny and Chandeluere

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>>27785031
Colress did nothing wrong.

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>>27786271
Do it

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>>27784805
>largest and most varied regional dex to date
>300 is larger than 450

>>27786265
>Thinking even a fraction of those are decent concepts or designs

>>27786189
Tell me more.

>>27786273
That is literally the best statement I have ever seen on /vp/.

>>27786437
Thanks anon :')

>>27786389
>to date

BW2 came before XY.

>>27786479
>direct transfer to pokemon bank
>last game without retarded difficulty

The image was made after XY.

>>27784805
It's widely accepted as the worst
I want kids who started with BW and overnationalistic americans to leave

Shit, now I have t replay B2 again.

>>27786540
I am literally as undernationalistic as you can get.

>>27786426
Well, you eventually meet the owner, a girl/boy that aparently don't tell you her/his real name. Then you can call her/him when you want, and she/he show a interest for you, and then you discovered that they are a sort of idol that travel around the world, and you can trade some pokemon with they.

>>27784805
And yet, this some people on this very board still shitpost about it.

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>>27784976
>all those NFEs

>>27786540
>nationalism can't save europe this time around

Enjoy Ahmed and Abdul fucking your women, then.

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Best Trio with Keldeo

>>27786232
Good thing it has 150 of them.

>>27786750
Who are the 6 bad ones?

>>27786750
I get the trubbish and vanillite line, but who's the last one?

>>27784871
What does the anime have to do with anything? Why are you even bringing it up it has nothing to do with a gen in the first place.

>>27784805
Black 2 and White 2 are the best Pokemon games to date. People that haven't played it can't call themselves fan of the franchise.

>>27786232
Gen 5's pokemon are fine. Better than Gen 4's at least.

>>27786799
Burt and Ernie, Conkeldurr, Icecream stage 3, Candle stage 2, and Samurott

>>27786925
I think I found Verlisify.

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People shit all over trubbish, but it's so cute!

>>27784962
speaking of music black and white brought, can we get this back in the games? It was a really nice touch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFJJr0hKznM

Alomomola when I was a kid.

Driftveil City's music was fucking great.

>>27784962
Damn, it's almost as if they gave a single fuck about the gym leaders.

>>27787166
He isn't in this thread.

>>27784962
DOGARS
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>>27785870
>literally just a frog with a plant on its back
>random dragon with its tail on fire as an excuse to be fire type
>pile of sludge and literally just a white seal
>a fucking pokeball with eyes
>rapishit line
>the endless supply of "it just gets bigger" or "there's more of them" evolutions

I could make the list longer but I won't, even though I've shown that every generation has shit designs and anybody can cherrypick you'll still pretend you're right.

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>>27784962
These are fucking awesome.
Especially Roxie and Elesa

>>27787184
I know, right?

>>27784962
Clay's gym jamming

>>27785870
>guys look I can point out a few bad pokemon, that means the entire generation is bad!
Quit trying to start shit, you could make literally every generation look shit with this mindset.
>a fucking circle
Because there have never ever been any other pokemon that are literally just spheres with faces on them, right???

>>27785870
Wich pomemon is the circle?
I had to re look the gen V dex and a did not find a circle pokemon

>>27784805
>Dating Simulator
What?

>>27787948
Venipede, maybe?

>>27788074
*whirlipede

>>27785870
>a few shit mons ruin an entire generation

guess you just hate every single pokemon game because there is no game with a perfect dex

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>>27788099
Smaller centipedes roll up as a defence mechanism

>>27785082
You're an anon of fine taste.

>>27788055
I assume that's about the lost xtransceiver quest.

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>>27788055

I just want to point out how OP is about game feautres and most of the people talking about how Gen V is the worst gen are solely trashtalking pokémon designs.
And even then, focusing on the same few pokémon as always, in a region that introduced 156 of them.

>>27787948
Unova region.

>>27784805
Gen V will always be my favorite generation and I played Red as a child just so some genwunner faggot tries to start shit about me being an underage Unova lover.

>>27787948
I think they meant Solosis.

>>27788525
>>27788538
I never knew about this before. Pretty cool.

>>27784805
All the stuff there is to do both as side quests to the main game and postgame is what I love about B2W2. I just want a pokémon game with as many unique things to do.

But judging how last gen had core games with literally nothing and remakes with removed features, I'm going to assumi SM won't have jack shit either.

I wonder if game freak hasn't made the jump to full 3D models (and with SM, seemingly full dynamic camera angles) they would still try to create actual game content instead of visual flair.

>>27788612
Game Freak tried its best with gen V.
People shitted on it.
We got gen VI.

>GF has to go all out with BW2 because it'll be the last Pokemon game on DS
>is a culmination of everything the DS games have lead up to
>X/Y come out on a fresh system
>have the excuse to go completely barebones because "animating models is hard work!"

Hopefully S/M are decent because they've had 4 games on the 3DS so far. They don't have much of an excuse for lack of postgame content.

>>27786063
Replay it and it'll feel like new again. Good for you

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>>27788900
XY never got its third/improved version.
You'd expect that with the 3DS capabilities, they could have just added DLC with at least some postgame stuff.
But no, they just rushed to make an even more incomplete ORAS and then not release anything for the next 2 years while we sit there without any postgame in any of the two pairs.

>>27788809
>REEEEEEEEE we got a shitty genwun pandering easymode game as our first 3DS game instead of more Unova sequels that would SURELY make it clear to all the pathetic normies that Serperior and Volcarona are here to stay and their shitty fake dragon and purple cat man will always be irrelevant!

>>27784805
Add to the list all the neat stuff already present in BW
>seasons
>Pokémon Musicals
>Multiple items assigned to Select
>Hidden abilities
>protags are no longer little kids
>battles are not slow anymore and are very dynamic
>double wild pokémon encounters
>triple battles
>rotation battles
>TMs are reusable!
>music changes during battle
>HM use is reduced to a minimum
>Elite Four can be fought in any order
etc

>>27788900
>>27789214
I wonder if the visual rehaul on everything but the pokemon battles may enable them to fall back on that excuse again. I don't know shit about making a game, but since all non-pokemon models and the interface in general was done from the ground up to be full scale., and probably how rooms and the internal layout of every buildings will work differently to match this will make them able to fall back on the same excuse for making a barebones game.

I hope not, but if that is the case at least we're lucky they won't be able to copypaste the Maison again.

>>27789302
He didn't even mention the pokémon, nor Gen 1.

Is it so hard for you people to understand some people want a game that is not completely devoid of things to do? >>27788612 is right in saying pokemon designs are the only argument people ever use against Gen V. You have nothing else.

>>27789302
What are you going on about you insecure autist? He never even mentioned gen 1.

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>>27789302
I'm feeling some pent-up anger here, anon.

The battling part is awful, the graphics are shit.
ORAS has the best playability of any pokemon game for me.

>>27789530
Try making a separate appreciation thread because any mention of enjoying Gen 6 triggers Unovabortions.

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I love how /vp/ has such a contrarian boner for BW2 even though practically everywhere else the games got pretty much the worst reception in the series. I for one don't miss those ugly designs, awful pixelated sprites with clumsy movement, tryhard "deep" story and numerous other flaws.

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>>27789563
Do you think people who are hired to write reviews play Pokémon postgames?
No. They have to play several other games to have an income. They finish the Pokémon League, give the game a superficial score and then pass to some other console game.

Only major fans of Pokémon would enjoy all the features BW2 can offer, the kind of people that post on /vp/.

>>27789563
Hell, even the story is a step down from BW1. It should tell you something that /vp/ claims that the story is BETTER.

My guess is:
>a lot of fans were growing up or otherwise in some sort of halcyon phase when Gen V was released
>it was hyped as a brave new direction for the series and loved by all sorts of core fans
>however, genwunners hated it and bashed Gen V and bullied its fans while overglorifying Gens I and II, the same way current Unovabortions bash Gen VI and its fans
>the genwunners won and we got XY

So obviously the Unova fans want to vent in some way.

>>27789647
For that matter, are Unova Pokémon themselves the most popular ones on /vp/?

Unlimited TMs was one of my favourite features.

>>27789530
I don't mind the battle graphics, but I won't argue against they being bad.
Gamefreak shouldn't have gone for fully animated if that meant getting that pixelated.

But as far as playability go and how entertaining and challenging the battling is, I think B2W2 is still above any game that came after it. I play pokémon without stopping to grind, but taking my time to explore, and Gen 5 has been the most challenge I've had against Gym leaders and such. Battling also feels faster than ever before with xp bar and ability activation effects going by fast, and it was the first game to change the song when you're low on health instead of having annoying beeping. All this was a blessing coming out of the rather slow Gen IV, and Gen VI simply kept these improvements.

>>27789647
>finish the Pokémon League
Sometimes they don't even do that

>>27789563
I liked the story and plot overall but Unova is a failed region from the beginning because it's retarded (Kalos too, btw). The gameplay sucks too because the overworld feels too dark everywhere, battling is depressing due to the sprites and badly executed camera movement.

Despite that, most characters and pokémon introduced and changes made to the mechanics and items were A+ imo

>>27789647
>>27789704
>muh reviewers don't worship the games that are objectively the best because they're my favorites, there must be some arbitrary reason why they didn't like them!

>>27789659
The story is definitely a step down. But everything else was a huge improvement.

>>27789659
I think you're giving fan arguments way too much power.

>>27784805
>Pokémon Mexico
What?

>>27789676
Yeah I agree, the difficulty of the games was very well thought and the challenge mode is something I really hope they bring back. Overall BW2 feels like a premium game, similar maybe to Platinum and Emerald to their predecessors, as a third version should. It's a shame we didn't get that for X and Y.

>>27789704
>Unova is a failed region from the beginning because it's retarded.

What does that even mean?

>>27789818
Wait eight years and we might get something.

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>>27789563
I love how Kalosperm can't actually find anything in their games worth defending so they just bash other, more popular generations and post review scores by """professional""" critics.

>>27789647
>Only major fans of Pokémon would enjoy all the features BW2 can offer
Find me one (1) Pokemon community that praises Gen V as much as /vp/. I'm begging you. Just one. Protip: you can't find it. Gen V got a very mixed reception everywhere else, and I honestly feel like the BW2 love here is just some sort of protest against genwunners. By the way, the people on this board who actually actively play these games (see: /wfg/ regulars), they love Gen VI because of all the improvements that it brought to online battling, trading, breeding, EV training and so on. When they talk about Gen V, it's usually just for nostalgia. Nobody actually wants those times back. I don't even understand all the whining about post-game. I had over 800 hours clocked in my first save file in X version and over 400 hours in my second playthrough. Breeding and training, battle spot, online tournaments, multi battles with fellow /vp/oreons... I mean, I'm still playing Gen VI post-game, but whenever I replay Gen V, I usually just drop it quickly after beating Pokemon League because there isn't much to do other than to run through a couple of towns.

>>27789724
>muh reviewers don't worship the games that are objectively the best because they're my favorites
>because they're my favorites
Actually because of all the points in the OP

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>>27789944
>(see: /wfg/ regulars)

Are you saying Wi-Fi General spends their time playing the only games that still have functional Wi-Fi? Shocking!

>>27789944
But it's reception in /vp/ is mixed as well.It wouldn't end in shitstorm every time it's mentioned if tht wasn't the case.

>>27789944
Dude, I love gen VI too and enjoy its additions but you got to admit that the postgame is inferior in terms of content. You just have competitive battling, which was also in gen V.

Everyone is allowed to have a different favorite game but it is pretty objective to say that BW2 offers more options than any other game in the series.

>>27789860
The main peninsula is: Giant city, followed by big desert, followed by more city, then a pokeball lake (???) and finally mountains at the top.
That's not how geography works.

>>27789994
Did you misread my post on purpose or are you just pretending to be retarded? The point is that unlike the majority of /vp/, they don't whine about Gen VI is shit. They love it. I'd imagine them being quite upset if they were forced to play games that they don't even like, but that isn't the case.

>>27789944
>BW2
>/vp/'s most overrated Pokemon games since HGSS
>wanting to go to other Pokemon communities where the median age is 12 or reddit

>>27790064
Anon, it's a general DEDICATED to Gen VI, of course they're going to fucking like Gen VI.

You might as well argue "the Ashnime is great because /padt/ loves it!"

>>27789944
You got hundreds of hours clocked in things people have done in every current Gen. None of these are features of the Gen VI post game, it's what people do for multiplayer. Gens IV and V had that, plus a big amount of post-game content, actual things to do in the game along with the breeding and training for competitive.

>>27789936
>BW2
>more popular than XY

Try looking outside /vp/, you narrow-minded contrarian hipster.

>>27790174
When I say popular I mean "popular on /vp/" of course.

But you mentioning "but all the other websites!" is the same deal as you mentioning critics. You're deflecting the criticisms toward your gen and can't find any defense for it so you're just attacking other games (I've seen it with Emerald and HGSS, too, not just Gen V) and trying to appeal to popularity.

If those other sites have such good taste, stay over there.

>>27790120
People will only realize how lacking Gen VI is when it stops being the current gen people play online with. Right now concerning yourself with team building and online battling makes up for it and people can't tell the difference.

Once we're playing Gen VII or VIII competitive and people go back to play VI I can see their opinion on it's amount and quality of content changing a lot.

>>27790120
>Gens IV and V had that, plus a big amount of post-game content
What exactly do these games have that makes /vp/ praise them so much? It seems like the general idea here is that "Good post-game = lots of battle facilities". (*) I don't really understand this since they're all essentially the same: you just battle pre-determined sets over and over and over again. Battling against real people and participating in online tournaments is infinitely more rewarding. I guess I could run through Black Tower again, but I've done that multiple times already. Is that supposed to bring me back to BW2? I don't think so.

Other than that, I don't remember there being much. Sure I have another battle facility and another battle facility, but breeding and EV training are a pain in the ass in pre-Gen VI games so I can't even use optimal teams. I don't think I've ever seen anyone who really likes the Pokestar Studios either. Help me here /vp/. What do you guys do when you replay Gen V? What makes you come back to those games? I'm not trying to be an asshole here, I'm genuinely curious since I semi-recently replayed Black and Black 2 and I dropped them pretty soon after beating the main story. In Black version I didn't even bother to train my team for the E4 rematches, which was pretty much the only thing I could do.

(*) This would actually be a valid point if the facilities actually offered some great variety like the Emerald Battle Frontier which has all kinds of weird shit you don't see anywhere else in any other game. For this reason I very much understand why so many Pokemon fans want the Emerald frontier back. Gen V, however, has nothing like this.

>>27790348
B2W2 has a lot of side things to do that don't involve battling, so I can see someone who is really only into the battle aspect not liking or sometimes even noticing it. I thought that added nice variety for when I want a break from bycicle simulator, and even now I find them fun to revisit along with re-playing challenge mode. It's not that I particularly like Pokestar Studios, the world tournament (though it was pretty cool seeing old gym leaders back with updated teams), exploring for hidden grottos, achievement system or sidequests like the memory link and lost xtranseiver, it's more that all it offered together made a stronger package than what next gens have offered.

The first BW doesn't have as much going for it, I like it's attempt at being more story and character driven, but I get that is more divisive and really just a personal opinion. Character in particular I think was handled pretty well with seeing the central characters develop during BW and seeing the path they took in the sequels.
But characters isn't something I have a problem with in Gen VI (since I love how ORAS fleshed out several characters and moments from RSE) so I don't hold it as a Gen V strenght.

>>27785172
BW was literally perfection. One of few games who got 40/40.

What the fuck is magnemite economics?

>>27784805
You forgot the best feature: faster than snail-pace Gen 4

>>27790348
>>27790348
>Battling against real people and participating in online tournaments is infinitely more rewarding

Too bad XY won't have either of when online support for it eventually gets shut down. Then it won't have single player content or multiplayer content!

To answer your question though, it gets boring to fight the same teams over and over, I can only do online play in small doses, unless it's a weird meta on Showdown like those monthly ones (and I barely even do those ones too).

Finding NPCs to fight who have teams that are reasonably challenging by Pokémon standards against an in-game party, optional side routes with dungeons that lead to Legendaries—and the dungeons part of that is important, I like travelling through caves and shit, just throwing a Legendary at you through a Hoopa ring like in ORAS is fucking boring compared to having a dungeon or sidequest to get to the Legendary—and entering facilities with new rulesets that change up your strategy are much more fun to me, not to mention good side content like the Pokéathlon and Pokéstar Studios fuck you I liked it that isn't technically postgame but brings me back anyway. I don't like Contests though.

If XY's online had some kind of Battle Factory mode where you chose a team of three from six random Pokémon and your opponent did the same, I could play that infinitely. What it has doesn't cut it, and it definitely won't cut it when online closes down.

>>27785849
Aren't there like 7 rival battles in the first hour of the game? What were they thinking with that?

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>>27784805
Man, the dream world was fun. I really miss it.

I don't, it killed the franchise

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>>27791194
>Battle Factory mode where you chose a team of three from six random Pokémon and your opponent did the same
Holy shit why isn't this a thing? I didn't even know I wanted this until now.

>>27784871
are animefags and genwunners the only people who hate Gen V? along with people who never played it. BW and BW2 are my favorite games in the series. and i love most pokemon designs in the gen. Simplistic, without being overly round like Gen 7's designs.

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>>27785631
Gen 5 was the best pokemon gen, and best era for /vp/

>>27791129
you had to have been here to understand it fully. Basically magnemite was the mascot pokemon for grinding your join avenue.

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>>27789410
The models are actually super high quality, they could pobably use them on a system with capabilities as the wiiu with a couple changes.
The problem is that the shading looks a bit off on a lot of things and it completely ruins the colors, not to mention they're still using the XY shadinng on the models when alola is super colorful so we end up with shit like this where it looks super out of place.

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>>27789563
>posting fucking metacritic scores
are you serious

>>27784805
The only thing that honestly makes me not want to play gen v games every few months is the music.

Granted, there's a few gems, but the instruments are sins upon humanity, god forbid castelia city.

Join Avenue used to be my LIFE.

>>27791585
Is there a point of me picking up a BW2 cart if its most praised feature is no longer available because it was wi-fi only?

I liked the region and it was nice to not have a piss easy game, but Gen V are the worst pokemon so I can't forgive them for that.

>>27790174
Everyone I've asked or talked to dislikes XY compared to pretty much every other region.

>>27789563
>Diamond and Pearl are rated higher than Platinum
>These are the people who liked X and Y


also why are they not rated the fucking same

>>27790348
>What exactly do these games have that makes /vp/ praise them so much?
Everything you could want from a Pokemon game? Gen IV (except Diamond/Pearl) and especially Gen V are the best Pokemon games.

>>27792580
Y is slightly better than X due to the death Legendary killing shit making more sense than the life Legendary killing shit.

Personally I think BW2 is everything the games prior in the series were building up to. Same formula, a generational gimmick to keep it fresh, loads of side features and content.

In comparison XY was all polish, graphical/engine overhauls, and quality of life changes. I think critics and more "shallow" fans (ones who play the game once, beat the elite four, and are done with it) can appreciate these improvements more, because they are easier to notice.

>>27792413
its most praised feature is PWT, which still works as intended.

a lot is lost without internet connectivity, shame it was the shortest lived game.

X and Y didnt do Gen 5 justice. Black and White could have been a lite-reboot of the franchise, adding on to the tone and setting of Unova, while still adding new regions, new pokemon, etc. the games were a love letter to RBY, it felt like a new start to the series, only new pokemon to encounter felt like a new journey, and the attempt they made to make the gen 5 pokemon established on their own was a great idea, but fell flat because older fans felt alienated. the genwunners should have embraced black and white, it's the closest thing we've had to reviving the feeling the original games gave us, instead they complain because it didnt have older mons readily available. it could have been a great turning point in the series, instead they pandered to gen 1 instead of making a new gen 1. B/W was the reboot the fans needed, but not the ones we deserved.

>>27792413
If by that you mean the Join Avenue, yes it's still worth, especially if you never played it before. There's plenty to do that doesn't require any online, and even Join Avenue can still be developed offline, it just takes more time.

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Don't mind me, just posting the best final battle music in Pokémon history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUY5KjHwczY

>>27786540
It's considered the worst by fucking Facebook Pokémon pages that spout memes like "omg fucking ice cream pokemon haha nintendo are so running out of ideas like this post if you agree xD" for some desperate attempt at self validation.

>>27785631
is that Yuuko's shop?

>>27786846
He's just saying the anime didn't represent gen v the best. No need to get hostile.

>>27789377
>Elite Four can be fought in any order
>Multiple items assigned to Select

I miss these. Gen V really were the best games.

>>27796225
>>Elite Four can be fought in any order
XY has that
>>Multiple items assigned to Select
You can do that in gen VI

>>27796406
I only fought Elite four twice in XY because it was horrendously slow as fuck. and iirf you can only assign one item to select on XY and 4 in ORAS but they had to be key items. In black, white you could assign any item.

>>27796406
baka Gen V was also released before Gen VI you fucking retard.

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>>27796776
I can't imagine anyone calling Gen 6 the best gen ever.

>>27796857
Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are pretty solid, but XY is truly shit.

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>>27796895
>Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are pretty solid
I respectfully disagree with your opinion.

is playing BW a requisite for playing BW2?

I'm actually playing White 2 now, since I haven't done so before.

Challenge mode was tough for the first couple of gyms but it's so easy now, why do people fantasize about it's difficulty again?

Solid game though.

>>27784969
You can play ranked battles online, which is far better than in previous gens.

>>27796479
You can assign 4 items in XY as well, but you're right about Gen 5 being better by letting you assign more things to select, you could do it to the bag, pokedex list and so on. I usually left the Dowsing Machine active all the time so Y became a good fast menu to bag, using Bycicle and rod without having to activate and deactivate DM all the time.

>>27797038
I meant "Select", not "Y". Mixed up because Y is the register button and I'm sleepy.

>>27784805
and finally the cycle frees gen V from its torment of being the franchise whipping boy, now gen VI can take its rightful place

>>27796979
If you care about the story and characters, yes. And don't take it like I'm saying Gen 5 has some grand story or something, I mean seeing the little consequences of the first game in the second, seeing how some characters have went on with their lives and so on. Think of it like seeing how stuff changed between RBY. and GSC.

And I think some things regarding the villains will just be confusing playing only the sequels.

>>27791266
ge with the times Gen VI is the one that people hate now

>>27784805
>tfw you own a new 3ds Xl but still wish the pokemon games were sprite based

>>27796857
people said the same thing about gen 5 and look what happened

Do people who missed out on the Victini/Genesect events just use Action replay to get them now? I feel bitter that I would have to play the games and not be able to catch them

>>27797116
ok den, im playing BW first

>>27797219
BW may not be astounding but they were a nice breath of fresh air. B2W2 on the other hand were the best games in the series next to Platinum so I can sort of understand it.

>>27791251
i remember getting a contrary spinda in the dream world once, good times

>>27796776
>implying ORAS wasn't the most quickly shitted on game in all of /vp/'s history

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>>27784931
FUCKING THIS

I despise having to sift through dozens of useless evolutionary held items. There needs to be either PC storage or a free bag compartment.

>>27784805
the champions theme was fucking awesome too

>>27797338
I also recall Gen 4 having a whooping 8 bag areas in it: items, medicine, pokeballs, TMs & HMs, Berries, FUCKING MAIL, Battle Items and Key Items
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bag

>>27797338
they need to retcon those and insense out of the games

>>27797219
were you here when they were released?

>>27785849
Long talk at start of game
Not 1 but 2 battles at start
Another long talk
Another long talk when you go downstairs
Forced walk to annoying bianca's house where you have to witness her getting yelled at
Another long talk outside the professors house
Another long talk in the professors house
Another long talk outside the professors house
An annoying we must all step together! talk
Let me teach you how to catch Pokemon episode
Another talk before the two idiots run off
Another talk at the end of the route
Le professor shows you everything talk in the first town
Oh it's N and the baddies talk right afterwards
Oh it's mom giving me shoes talk as soon as you hit the next route
WOW FINALLY A BREAK FROM THE TALKS
Rival hits you at the end of the route
Another rival battle right afterwards inside the teaching place
Beat gym
Another long talk outside the gym
Forced escort to upstairs of a building
Another long talk
Muuna right afterwards
Another long talk at Muuna
Another long talk after Muuna upstairs
Oh look it's a rival battle at the start of the next route
Oh look its bianca and an ugly little girl coming because they were stupid enough to get their Pokemon stolen with a long talk
Another long talk right afterwards in a cave
Another long talk after the battle
Another long talk right as you exit the cave
Oh look I made it to the next town and my rival has to show me the Pokecenter(Why the fuck I was just shown what a Pokecenter was in the last town)

So much effort put into gen 5

ORAS cock suckers will still defend it as not lazy or rushed

>>27796776
Interesting. I like Gen 6 the least, and like Gen 4 and 5 the most. We Gen 7 now so...

>only gen who's pokemon I can call shit because they're literally inferior copies of gen 1
>games that almost made me quit pokemon from disapointment
>anime in worst state it has ever been
>sequels with a shitload of content but nothing new, rehash just as platinum was in gen 4
Nope. Even gen 6 was better.

>>27797500
>forced dialog
>forced walk
>forced tutorial
>forced item pickup
>forced information

this is why pokemon needs difficulty settings. not for changing up levels or exp or gyms or anything, fuck that. just so you can say "i'm experienced at pokemon, i don't need tutorials, drop me in the world and let me make my own way"

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>>27797635

>>27797500
It's like you're saying Rival battle are bad anon

>>27797780
Bianca and Cheren weren't great rivals to be fair.

>>27797840
But what about N, if you don't like them

>>27797748
Ah, yes. Fourthy hour tedious grind to film all those poke movies was really great. You're right anon, I'll immediately change my opinion now.

black/white1/2 are the only games I never played but I can't find a fucking copy of black 2 that isn't 40+ dollars used, why are these fucks so greedy.

>>27797863
>implying optional is bad

>>27797635
How can someone have this much shit taste? You can like whatever you want to but saying B2W2 has nothing new is just ridiculous.

This thread fucking convinced me. We don't deserve any good pokemon game, ever.

The game with the most content and variety in the main series, and all you faggots do is shit on it.

I hope Sun/Moon has like 50 more pokemon and post game is battle maison again, because this is what this shithole is asking for.

>>27797855
I liked him. He wasn't there in the beginning though which is what that post was complaining about. At least Cheren was a fucking competent secondary rival though, unlike May/Brendan. Can't remember fuck all about the 4 gen 6 rivals either.

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>>27797855
>N is considered a rival

Are you serious

>>27797635
>anime has anything to do with the games

If anything it's usually the better the worse the games. Ie it's best during DP/XY (I love plat, but they are shit) was great. Yet it was shit during GS/BW. Average during both Gen 1/3

>>27797914
>optional
Do you know where we are? Nothing is optional.

Someone else in this thread listed a gorillion optional things earlier. My point was that content doesn't equal quality and while original b/w lacked content, bonus stuff in sequels was mostly uninspired busy work.

>>27797918
You're right, BW2 had a new even more unremarkable story with triple the dialogue and tutorial railroading which doesn't stop until 2/3rds into the game, making it painful to replay.

>>27797946
???
But there are a good amount of people here saying they loved/liked BW2.

>>27797955
I mean it's not a 100%, but he's referred to by the same class Cheren/Bianca originally are and is the champion like Blue was when you race to beat him first

>>27797971
How fucking wrong can someone be

>>27797946
>The game with the most content and variety in the main series

XY is disappointing for a game with a lot of firsts, but I do wish that the devs didn't just straight up abandon Kalos.

>>27797971
>BW2
I dunno anon. I've been replaying it recently and there's barely any dialogue at all. It didn't have many tutorials either outside of explaining the hidden grottos. The game pretty much leaves you to your own devices. They heavily decreased the dialogue, it was one of the main things people complained about.

>>27798027
Why do you lie? Every half a route you're stopped by someone having to say stuff that doesn't matter.

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>>27797971
>uninspired busy work
Fuck off mate

>>27798020
>"pokemon are friends, don't hurt them please"
>battles you

Shit

>>27798055
>world tournament
>oh shit this'll be good
>random gym leaders win each other randomly
>3 lines of text that repeat each time
>win it 10 times to unlock the next level because padding
>congratulations you won everything here have nothing

>>27798046
You're literally not. Even if you are, the text is miniscule and they fuck off for 5-10 hours. Hugh is an autistic fuck that runs away immediately after you fight him. Juniper meets you like twice the entire game. Bianca has one tutorial and then fucks off until she needs to be escorted in a dungeon, only to say one line and then fuck off again.

>>27798252
Alder stops your adventure dead in the first route. You can't get to the second town which is thirty seconds away without him over explaining stuff and telling you exactly what you must do.
And then he jumps from a mountain down on the same screen where the ledge jumping tutorial is located. That's terrible game design. Not to mention how game practically teases you with you can't do this but our speshul npc can.
Are these two miniscule nitpicks? Yes, they are. Are they irrelevant? No, because most of the game until post-league content is like that.

I'll just put this out there: B/W and its sequels have the worst world design out of all main pokemon games except maybe gen 2. But that one gets a pass because it didn't copy areas from the previous generations, most specifically 4 in this case.

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>>27798164
>making remixes of every gym/champion theme
>makes it so you can get competitve battle items here also
>making 41 different animated sprites/overworld sprites
>creating another rental system
>uninspired busy work

>>27798164
>3 lines of text that repeat each time
All gym leaders and E4 members do this.

>>27798379
>paste already existing characters from this and previous games
>paste subway shop
>letting player rent a pokemon is hard work
>have anons defend this for free

>>27798449
I fucking wish I wasn't so fucking autist so I can stop replying to you. I know you're just being me, I just can't fucking stop

>>27798449
>paste already existing characters from this and previous games.
Well no fucking shit, because it's the Goddamn Pokemon World Tournaments, of course they're going to have notable people like gym leaders and champions from other regions battle you.

>>27791087
They also said Final Fantasy XIII was 39/40. They'd rate a goddamn bowl of glass shards a 40/40 breakfast for its good taste and how it goes down smooth if they could.

>>27798661
>moving the goalposts

Gen V sucked, worse than Gen VI

>>27798753
Explain please.

>>27797635
(You)

the Pokemons of Gen 5 themselves are the weakest part of Gen 5 to be honest

>>27796776
Nobody is going to claim Gen VI is the best anything when Gen VIII arrives, especially if Nintendo shuts down online by then.

>>27798823
Agreed. There are several Gen 5 pokémon I like but overall I found it to be the Gen with the highest amount of forgetable or just ugly pokémon.

Though it's also the gen that introduced the most pokémon so I can't be too angry. It's pretty easy to ignore pokemon I don't like in favor of the ones I did like.

>>27798027
That's wrong. I love BW2 but the beginning of the game is painful with how many tutorials there are and how often you get stopped at the beginning of the game. I think it's the single biggest flaw in the game.

Black & White 2 had god awful designs.

>>27798449
>>letting player rent a pokemon is hard work

It is considering Gen 6 doesn't have it.

As someone who shits on BW, I''ll give credit where credit is due:

>unlimited technical machines
>increased graphic depth
>constantly moving Pokemon sprites
>hidden abilities
>Elite 4 theme
>lowkey based Alder theme, always based Iris theme
>additional held items

Can't think of much else, though.

>>27784805
Challenge Mode was the best feature ever to be introduced in a Pokemon game even though it had a really dumb way of activation. I bet it's never coming back because oh no, children shouldn't be allowed to play moderately challenging games!

>>27798914
This. Replaying B2W2 is always a chore just because of that, especially that shitty movie thing. I can't believe they actually force you to go through with it.

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Fuck you B&W anon, you only won because I let you.. I know you're in here

>>27785031
>>27786292
>that battle theme
>that superb taste in Pokemon
Best boy isn't enough, he's the best character.

>>27799067

Which board you coming from, mate.

>>27789944
>Pokemon community
Why would anyone ever care about those? You should know why you're on 4chan, and if you don't it's clear that you don't belong in here.

Why can't Unovabortions have a thread to themselves for once, even as a containment thread. We are hated by anyone who isn't a HGSS fag it feels like. Genwunners/Hoennbabies/SinnohFetuses/Kalosperms/Go fags

It's fucking annoying

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>>27799122
Once again, you had like two or three threads devoted to gen V appreciation today. I posted in this one and the N background one.

>>27799122
Just go to fucking infinity vp. If you don't wanna have to deal with the furries and GOfags of 4chan /vp/.

>>27799165
Because they all got derailed pretty fucking quickly. Other gen's can have one, go ahead whose stopping you

>>27785849
Play Black 2 then and you'll notice the difference.
>hey anon you're a trainer, choose starter
>hi I am rival, battle please
>okay we're done go have fun
You even instantly get your running shoes as well because fuck waiting, you're playing a good game.

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>>27799122

If you fessed up that BW was an abomination and only praised BW2, making sure to highlight all the good things it did, you wouldn't get the misunderstanding that arises when saying "Gen V best gen".

You imply BW, Pokemon Conquest, and Gates of Infinity were worthwhile games as well.

So I know this mostly comes down to taste but does anyone else feel like Gen V had the higher % of Pokemon you liked?

>>27799233
But base BW weren't bad either, unless the fact that an entirely new array of Pokemon bothered you that much.

>>27799237

No.

>>27799233

I forgot to mention the toy fighting game.

>>27799276
>non main line games
>equal games of a generation

>>27799274

You are either a cuck or a child.

>>27799294

You are either a retard or a child. Do you honestly think Gen (x) = (y) Region = (z) Version?

>>27799318
Yes.....?

Why do the side products control the MAINLINE quality of the generation. I think BW/BW2 are some of the bets games, but they had the worst everything else it feels like. Gen 6 is the opposite

>>27799318
What amazing arguments! I am entirely defeated.

How about we just ignore generations and just pay attention to the individual games instead?

>>27799337

>Why do the side products control the MAINLINE quality of the generation.

They don't. They affect the quality of the generation. One good game (BW2) in a generation (V) of bad games (the above) does not make an entire generation good, even if it is "mainline".

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>>27799337
>people still think Mystery Dungeon, Ranger, Conquest, and other side games were produced by Game Freak

>>27799348

Smart suggestion that will be proceeded to be ignored by people too mentally undeveloped to understand the difference.

>>27799367

Didn't know that. Still doesn't change the fact that they are Pokemon games.

Gen5 was ok, but hardly my favorite. It had tons of cool stuff but I just can't say it's my favorite generation
That would be gen 3 because of emerald
I have played gen 2-3 the most.

I liked the simple themes back in gold. Run some errands, take over gyms, fight elite 4 and be the champion. And finally meet red himself. And beat him.

In gen 3 you fought 2 ecoterrorist groups who were fighting for their ideals, but didn't realize the damage they could do. It was fun, and it was the first generation to openly pit you against legendary Pokemon (excluding crystals suicune)

Gen5 was fun, but it felt easier to me. Like the first gym, you get a free Pokemon with type advantage just for showing up. But ultimately fun and enjoyable

Special mention to Pokemon diamond..for giving me a steel/fire type legendary, fuck yeah.

>>27789214
ORAS do have a post game, it's just that it's shorter than older games.

They have the whole Rayquaza plot and the battle Maison, plus that shitload of legendaries to catch.

>>27797955

You'd have to be stupid to not consider him one.

>First trainer you battle after Cheren and Bianca
>Half a dozen matches throughout the region
>Fights you for personal reasons, not as a crime boss being confronted by an interference
>Pulled the same beat you to the champion stunt as Blue in a game full of Kanto parallels
>Isn't even the real Team Plasma leader

Horrible generation. Ugly pokemon, ugly region. WTF is with /vp/ and Gen V? It's awful. Gen VI is even better.

>>27798929
well gen 6 doesn't have anything to begin with

>>27786076
probably around $20 or so.
I got a used version of a japanese black 2 cart for about $12 and it was legit. Nothing messed up or anything.

>>27790174
XY were fucking terrible. Don't try and justify that shit.

>>27784805
Wi-Fi died WAY too early for B2W2

>>27789944
the tumblr pokemon community seems to really love gen V, but I know you guys hate them so whatever.
IGN gave it a pretty good score, though.

>>27800757
Goddamn, Black and White were neat-o as fuck for their time. I remember my first interaction with N. His theme gave me goosebumps.

>>27789944
You do know Famitsu gave it a perfect 10/10, which they rarely do? BW are for true patrician pokemon fans.

>>27791129
people were trading magnemites everywhere for their join avenues in bw2.
It became the most traded pokemon on GTS for gen5

>>27796979
not really. no

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>>27784805
>more postgame legendaries than ever before
wat
more than oras? also i thought that was bad acording to /vp/

>>27798920
How so? It didn't even introduce any new Pokémon besides the weather god thing forms and that was only because they looked identical.

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>>27799067
I fell asleep right after my post. I told you the stars were aligned for me to win. Now go play B2W2, you dumb faggot.

Thanks op this thread made me realise that the only games I missed were the gen V sequels and Black 2 is awesome so far. One of the best looking games for sure.

>>27786273
There are people that like pokemon just because... of the pokemon,not because the anime or the games.But i like gen V a lot.

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Top tier songs desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUddEEqS2XQ

>>27784805
>Memory Link
I think the only thing that would've made it absolutely perfect and recreate that RBY->GSC experience would've been to fight your character from the first game.

Outside of that, this Gen was easily my favorite. Sadly hit the nostalgia way harder for me than what they tried to do today with X/Y or fucking Go.

>>27784969
Just like gen I and everyone loves gen I

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>>27786927
>Samurott over Emboar
Tepig deserved better but decided to steal the fighting type design from Samurott. Why doesn't the self cooking swine get all the shit?

Really wish I didnt let my hatred if the designs this gen, even if they were based off of the american culture, to prevent me from getting the game. Since its a pretty comfy game. Shouldve just transferred some pokemon from my past games.