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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z38: Kalos League Victory! Ash's Ultimate Match!! [Aug 18th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! [Aug 25th]
>XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! [Sep 1st]
>XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! [Sep 8th]
>XY&Z42&43 1 Hour Special [Sep 15th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>27711511
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POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z17 POKETV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][08A85A9A].mkv.torrent

XY&Z34 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_034_Semifinal_Full_Battle!_Satoshi_VS_Shota!![H264_720P][14421E60].mkv.torrent

XY&Z35 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=834750

XY&Z36 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=836935

XY&Z37 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=839243

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z38: KALOS LEAGUE VICTORY! SATOSHI'S ULTIMATE MATCH!! (AUGUST 18TH)
>The match between Satoshi and Alan in the Kalos League finals finally concludes. The white-hot battle ends with an intense clash between Satoshi Gekkouga and Mega Lizardon. Will Satoshi win the league?

>Summary:
>Satoshi and Alan's fierce fight in the Kalos League finals continues on. This battle where neither of them yield an inch to the other gets more and more heated! And then the conclusion finally arrives: When the fierce fight concludes, will it be Satoshi that holds the laurels of the Kalos League victory in his hands? Or will it be Alan?
>Meanwhile, the Flare Gang are making suspicious moves behind the scenes of this fierce battle in the finals...!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 45 (Aug 14th)

XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! (Aug 25th)
>Lumiose City falls into shambles due to the attack of mysterious plants that suddenly appeared. Ash and the others head to the Prism Tower to try finding out the truth behind this incident, but are met by a surprise attack from Team Flare, and Ash ends up captured. And then, Lysandre, Alan's boss and representative of Lysandre Labs, finally unleashed his ambition on the entire world.

XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! (Sep 1st)
>Clemont and the others decide to split into several groups in order to stop Team Flare's plans. Bonnie follows Squishy as it confronts Z2, which has transformed into its 50% Forme. But then the evil clutches of Team Flare strike! And just like Z2, Squishy also ended up getting controlled by Team Flare.

XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! (Sep 8th)
>As he attempts to retake the Lumiose Gym, Clemont challenges Team Flare scientist Xerosic to a battle, staking their pride as scientists.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPT 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPT 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPT 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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First for nostalgiacucks BTFO
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CHICKEN-CHAN WILL WIN THE KALOS LEAGUE WINNERS (SATOSHI'S) HEART!!
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>>27715310
>It's an Evansposter invades /vp/ episode

Pls go home and rethink your life
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>>27715268
>Bisharp will either get two wins or a win and a tie
Yeah, gen 5 designs are still shit for the most part.
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Long hair Serena best Serena.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS DELIA KETCHUM?!
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is the damage control as glorious as I hoped it would be
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So, Alan has 2 damaged pokemon while Ash still has Pikachu and untouched Goodra and Greninja.
What asspull are they gonna pull off this time to make him lose?
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>>27715268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCBL33NKvPA
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>>27715373
Is there any possiblity that this won't happen?? Maybe Goodra kills Bisharp and then gets Doragon Kuro'd.
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>Ash vs Alan has been better so far than Ash vs Paul at the same point (50% into the battle)

Looks like we got a new number 1 battle of the anime
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>>27715407
Being fucked in the ass by mr mime
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>tfw Ash's victory against Alan wont be satisfying at all because Charizard is already wounded when battling Ash Greninja.
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>yfw SM anime is worse than BW
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>>27715373
isn't it just gonna be a draw with Goodra?
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I've underestimated Alan. Looks like he'll realize where his heart lies during his battle with Ash, and not need Ash to break his fucking illusions after all.

>yfw after the battle he apologizes to Lysandre, telling him he would like to quit and is willing to give up his key and mega stone if he wants it back
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>>27715415
>implying Ash winning is an asspull with the situation like that
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>>27715361
Nah.

If Serena, a 10/10 qt childhood friend that is genuinely in love still won't win da Ash by the end of the XYZ series, no other new regional girl will.

Only Misty.
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>>27715427
Nope, Zard gets sent out while Greninja is on the field and they're the only two mons left on the scoreboard. Goodra either ties or loses. Still if he ties he'll never have a single loss in an official battle, kek.
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>>27715453
You mean especially not Misty.
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>Alan still not realizing that Greninja will attack from the smoke after eliminating the clones despite battling Greninja twice

When will he learn?
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>>27715361
>KALOS LEAGUE WINNERS
So you're saying she's a slut that'll go for any guy?
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>>27715439
>it's Orange Islands+BW
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>>27715440
One win was against Hawlucha, I mean its total tally for the battle. If it wins against Goodra, it has to lose against Greninja, otherwise they'll tie.
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>>27715433
Ash vs. Paul was way more exciting just because things weren't in Ash's favor literally the whole battle. As many good battles as there were in XY&Z37, I still think vs. Paul and vs. Shota were both better overall.
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>>27715439
Since the plot of SM is building a league from scratch and Ash would arrive as a champion there's a lot of potential.
They will probably disregard the plot of the games and make him a scrub again though
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Could someone post the webm with Hawlucha and Vegeta side by side?
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>>27715490
I like how it's pretty much a standard tactic by Ash when using Greninja, practically a replacement to the Keromousse he always uses.

He did it to Alan, Shota, and Diantha, I think. Are there any others?
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>>27715511
>that spoiler
Just like in BW.
Why did they drop the Plasma plot line after the earthquake, anyway? I feel like that's what put the final nail in the coffin for that series.
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>>27715511
That's still just a rumor.
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>>27715510
Ash vs Paul was exciting because of the build up but the battle itself not so much. And Ash being in the finals and we have no fucking confirmed clue if he's winning or not is more exciting than anything before it. Ash were meant to beat Paul and everybody knew it before the battle. Like Ash vs Shota.
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>>27715439
Shitrenafags BTFO
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>dubbed Snowbelle arc
>dubbed Kalos League
>dubbed Flare arc
>dubbed Clemont/Bonnie/Serena leaving

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>27715555
>Why did they drop the Plasma plot line after the earthquake, anyway?
They learned about B2W2 and figured it'd just be a complete mess to introduce the original Team Plasma and then find a way to work in the new team as well.
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>>27715492
YES AND SHE'S GOING TO WIN THE SATOSHI CUP ANYWAY
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>"if papa doesn't win the kalos league then mama won't tell him her feelings and i won't be born!!! send him your energy!!!"
>"fuck off anon my dad doesn't look like brock"
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>>27715427
Nope. Charizard gets sent out with Greninja already on the field, thus one of the following happens:
>Be Sharp defeats Rambo, is defeated by Froge
>it's a double KO and Ash sends his Greninja first to the field, immediately before Alan sends his Charizard
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>>27715555
Can't wait for a level 5 Rowlet to trash Pikachu.
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>>27715577
Are you just shitposting for the sake of shitposting?
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>tfw Goodra's winning streak WILL be destroyed next week for good
>not even tiefags will be able to deny it
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>>27715622
What if they conveniently give it ANOTHER tie? And the meme is that Goodra really does never lose?
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>>27715593
That means she loses the Satoshi Cup.
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>>27715601
>Be Sharp
This isn't the first time this happens anon, when will you fix that fucking phone auto-corrector?
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>>27715577
>implying
You've never read a chart in your life, have you?
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>yfw they are saving an Ash monologue because he will only do one of it in the next people
>it's his final speech before the theme song starts up and he begins kicking Alan's ass in battle.
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>>27715601
So
>Charizard beats Pikachu
>Recalled for Bisharp
>Goodra sent out
>Goodra KOd
>Greninja KOs Bisharp
>Charizard sent out, gets blown the fuck out.

I don't like this.
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So Goodra gets sent out just to die like Noivern?

J U S T
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>>27715706
Noivern is a rookie, he may be evolved but he was literally a dinky little bat a few weeks ago.

Goodra has no in-universe excuse to choke after its past performances.
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>>27715600
Take all my mana.
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Stayed away from spoilers and finally saw the episode. Great battle, but not on the same level as the first part(s) of Ash vs Paul.

What I disliked the most is the fact that Alan just entered the league as an afterthought and don't really care whether he wins this finals match or not. Sadly this just kills the excitement for me. It's the finals, yet it doesn't feel like anything is on the line. I just get this "casual battle" feeling and things don't feel intense at all.

The matches themselves weren't really that interesting imo. There's no mid-match-major-threat for Ash to overcome (like Paul's Drapion) and many of the matchups felt like they went by too quickly. Major full battles like this really need those three episodes...
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Who's responsible for this? Alan's pokémon being jobbers or Ash being too good?

>>27715695
I think Goodra will defeat Bisharp.
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>>27715706
To set up Rain Dance.
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>>27715490
The worst part is, it has already happened before and Alan should know better by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Les-CUhDH5w
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>>27715727
>Goodra has no in-universe excuse to choke after its past performances.
No effective moves against Bisharp and the latter has fucking Guillotine. His excuse is getting terrible matchups by sheer bad luck.
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>>27715734
>
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>>27715647
it's not a funny meme like the other ones so it won't happen

goodra's about to get a guillotine
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Sorry for all the incoming dumbass questions, but I heard Ash is finally going to win a Pokemon League. Is this for real? Is this real life? Is this actually happening?

Wouldn't he have to stay in the region and await challengers and stuff?

Also, is he with a new girl again? Are they actually banging/gonna bang, or is it just teasing? Are they at least cute or is it fucking dumb like people who liked him and May together?

Am I the only one who wishes he'd banged Misty?
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>>27715534
Against Olympia, but in that case it was to hide Talonflame's attack
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what if manon believes everything lysandre says and becomes a villain
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Pikachu the absolute madman, not only he defeated Tyranitar he also defeated Metagross.
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>>27715734
>There's no mid-match-major-threat for Ash to overcome (like Paul's Drapion)
Pikachu is Paul's Drapion here. :^)
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>>27715590
Come to think of it, their decision of straight up making gen 7 game instead of making Z may benefited the anime in a lot of ways.
They'll probably shove Puni-chan and his subplot into a movie instead.
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>>27715727
>Goodra has no in-universe excuse to choke after its past performances.

Wasn't it a point in the bro bowl that it literally can't do shit against faster Mons?
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>>27715743
Alan just wants to have fun.
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>>27715734
Your problem is that you want everything to be Ash vs Paul. Like a mid major threat must exist. This battle had better handled than Ash vs Paul and is a lot more exciting.
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>>27715433
We all knew Ash Vs Alan would have be more flashy with better animation and somewhat better choreography but Ash Vs Paul is still better because of the develpment
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>>27715777
Why is Iron Tail so cool in the anime but so shit in the games?
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>>27715649
The joke's on you, I did it on purpose.

You don't remember that Simpsons' episode, right?
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>>27715600
why are you shipping serena with goku
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>>27715776
not sure if the guy has fully moved to this thread but someone reply to this
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>>27715777
THIS WAS SUCH AN ASSPULL HOLY SHIT HOW COULD THIS EVEN HAPPEN

>LOL SPRAY SOME WATER ON IT
>DEAD
>LOL CLIMB ON HIS HEAD
>DEAD

ITS LITERALLY AIM AT THE HORN 2.0 FUCK
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Why is Hawlucha so based?
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>>27715361
qte time traveled girl meeting his father.
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>>27715433
I would say its the second best fight but no the best one desu
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>>27715815
Bros for life. Kinda wish he kicked that bishaps ass though.
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It doesn't matter if Naruto beats the Zard. Based Pikachu is the clear MVP.
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>>27715786
>This battle had better handled than Ash vs Paul and is a lot more exciting.
>>27715786
Better animated yeah but overall no
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>>27715765
>I heard Ash is finally going to win a Pokemon League. Is this for real? Is this real life? Is this actually happening?
we just don't know but the stars are aligning in our boy's favor
>Wouldn't he have to stay in the region and await challengers and stuff?
we just don't know
>Also, is he with a new girl again? Are they actually banging/gonna bang, or is it just teasing? Are they at least cute or is it fucking dumb like people who liked him and May together?
she cute
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>>27715793
Well it didn't really work the way he wanted though.

>>27715813
Huh, Tyranitar wasn't defeated because of the water really, it was Electro Ball, which was more surprising to be fair.
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>>27715777
He's so small he only has to geat behind big guys and shock them to death. Truly a giant killer.
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>>27715813
He sprayed the water to fuck up sandstorm.
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>>27715813
>look mom, I shitpost on 4chin XD
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>No Misty or Brock tuning in in HGSS gear to see their old pal

This heartless fucking show really likes to imply that the characters that made it gave up on their friend. Fuck this anime
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>>27715453
>met once
>childhood friends
This thread.
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Apologize. You guys said Electro Ball was trash.
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>>27715815
Not "aguante mijo.jpg"
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>>27715804
Now I do although I'm not a native English speaker so I only know of the English band name due to osmosis.
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>>27715734
>that Alan just entered the league as an afterthought and don't really care whether he wins this finals match or not
THIS is my main problem with this fight. He literally doesn't care if he wins or not. Plus even if he loses he'll get that Mega energy he wants
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Anybody has a webm of Metagross blocking Pikachu's way?
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>>27715871
Would he be able to pull the mercenary's mask off?
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>>27715896
Kek
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>>27715863
It was, Ash vs Paul was way more boring than it had the right to be until Infernape vs Electivire.
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>>27715889
Fuck that TV bullshit just bring the classic crew back and pretend the three blonde nobodies never happened.
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>>27715912
Mallow is the Brock/Cilan you dumb shitrenacuck
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>>27715815
It was the butlering all over again.
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>>27715815
If this was the Kanto league, Ash would've been disqualified on the spot for having three Pokémon out at the same time.
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>>27715361
Wait wait wait...
What if Ash's father be a Maradona and Chicken actually is her half sister?
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>>27715889
Brock can come back anytime because Yuji Ueda voices Wobbufett, he's just busy being a doctor and shagging Nurse Joy

Misty I'm less confident about, if they can manage to snag Iizuka again then by all means

>>27715932
delet this
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>>27715439 #
It has potential to be worse because the chance is high that the new main girl will be brown.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>27715889
>Brock in HGSS gear
HahahahHag
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>>27715894
This is the same justification people used to defend Hinata, didn't work in a show with a plot, doesn't work in a show that used to have a plot. I'm going to go play go and relive my childhood like a human fucking being
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>she'll never return
>it will never be canon
>all hope is lost

E N D
M Y
L I F E
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Where does the referee go when the field changes?

Also seems like a fucking dangerous job.
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Made new fight webm's with sound.

Hawlucha VS Weavile: https://my.mixtape.moe/pzifjm.webm
Talonflame VS Unfeazant: https://my.mixtape.moe/hjbbcn.webm

>>27715913
Give me a minute, I'll make one.
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I have a feeling that Pikachu and Charizard scene is going to play a very important role in Greninja's victory. Right when Greninja forms that gargantuan orange shuriken, Alan will flip out a la Shota, and probably tell Charizard to dodge. That thunderbolt which made its knee give out will prevent it from doing so.

I kinda hope this is the case. Pikachu mascot powers and pandering aside, if Ash wins this league, it would make sense to have his 20 year old partner mon be a large asset to the league victory. And I'm talking as a Greninjafag.
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>>27715934
Not acceptable, the girl in the group should not be brown. Lillie as only girl in the group when?
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>>27715977
Shh, no tears. Only dreams now.
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>>27715977
You are like 14 years late or something
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how would you feel if charizard got paralysis from Pikachu's attacks and that stopped him from dodging Greninja's Shuriken of Doom?

Pikachu MvP
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>>27715973
t. angry NaruSaku
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>>27715964
I'd follow lysandre to the edge of the world
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>>27715977
It was never canon to begin with 4kids shitter
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Hey, anyone have any art requests? SFW and simple please, just want some quick warm up material.
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Eh, I expected Pikachu to be recalled and Hawlucha to defeat Weavile and also Talonflame to defeat Unfezant, guess you can't have 'em all.
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>>27715964
wonder boner

>>27715973
bye granddad
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>>27715964
>"Tell me Satoshi-kun. Since when were you under the impression...that the League taking place in Lumiose was a coincidence?"
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This is literally the only place on the whole internet claiming that Ash vs Alan is better than Ash vs Paul.

It's a good battle, but it's not better than the Paul fight.
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>>27715600
OOooooooOooooOO I'm the ghost of Ash's daughter, and I won't rest until my dad stops looking like Brock with aids OOOOooooooOooooOOoo
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>>27715977
It basically was canon in the original series and the first movie as well as one of the things the dub highlighted. But now everyone wants to be retarded and act like this show can just pretend Ash didn't have a life before Kalos
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>>27716017
>implying there weren't hints
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>>27715907
>yfw near the end of the battle, Alan realizes that to receive all of Satoshi in battle, he must give his all to Satoshi as well
>then he says: "I want to win."
>cue Ash's monologue where he apologizes to Alan for kicking his ass.
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>>27716018
Draw Hawlucha with Espada clothing and a little sword.
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>>27716013
Are you sure?
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>>27716019
The hell was Unfezant using to attack? That shit bird doesn't even learn brave bird.


was it using mirror move?
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>>27715988
Yeah, the shuriken seems aimed at ground level so it'd make sense for Alan to tell Charizard to fly up to dodge it only for him to lose his balance and get hit.
>Zard manages to fly up but the shuriken suddenly Macrosses its way towards him
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Just why can't they just give Pikachu Signal Beam? Add some fun!
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Ash will still lose, I guarantee it. Either that or the match is cancelled due to Flare attack.

To those who cite the rivalry storyline, it will be resolved during the arc, not during the league. It's hard for people so hyped up to accept this, but that just how it's gonna be.
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>>27716049
the attack name was in english
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>>27716042
Name one that wasn't MO2 and in the original japanese
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>>27716049
Sky Attack aka God Bird.
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For anyone still in denial about meme frog defeating edgy zard
>meme frog literally BTFO's dain bramaged lizard, AND reduces his trainer to tears, with the big shuriken
>very edgy zard takes FOUR TIMES the damage from water shuriken as m-sceptile does, and it's getting hit with a shuriken that's turned orange from being infused with the power of MOTTO MOTTO TSUYOKU
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>>27716017
Check Bulbapedia retard, most of the hints were in the original Japanese. Hell 4kids practically turned it down.
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>>27716049
Sky Attack.
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>>27716047
you think his pubes are orange too?
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>>27716049
God bird / Sky attack
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>>27715987
Luchabro so fucking BASED.
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>>27715361
Of course. Little girls always win their father's heart.
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>>27716040
It wasn't even canon in the original series. Vast majority of the "canon" is dub rewriting. The few that weren't were in the original but they never did anything for it.
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>>27715932
>Being an anime genwunner
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>>27716061
They should give Pikachu Extremespeed and Grass Knot.

Pikachu is already using grass knot in the new ending.
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I kinda wish the first half of the battle hadn't gone that well for Ash. Now I'm rethinking my bets.
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>>27715977

> She actually went on dates with someone else in the games
> It's been 16 years since then
> She's probably married and shit by now

what would happen if they decided to show misty leaving the Kalos League on in the background while she cooks for her husband or whatever

neckbeard fanboys would cry to the point of dehydration
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>>27716087
ask Sycamore
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>>27716049
GODDO BAADO

Or God Bird

Or Sky Attack
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>>27715511
>They will probably disregard the plot of the games and make him a scrub again though

They should just make a new protag each region like the manga.
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>>27716080
>bulbapedia
>good source of anything to do with the anime

HAHAHAHAHAHA give a real example with proof and we will talk newfag.
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>>27716087
Fanarts taught me so.
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>>27716009
Hinata is literally just a human body pillow, nothing of value.
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>>27716107
Why?
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>>27716042
>majority came from Orange Islands
>Orange Islands didn't have that many in the first place
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>>27716046
Seconded. Anything with Luchabro is magnifico.
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>>27716003
About Pikachu, why have no one ever gotten effected by Pikachu's static ability? I can't even recall how many that have been affected by it, if anyone at all
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>>27716087
Irish here. My pubes are orange.
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>>27716034
Just let them have fun
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>>27716068
Match is confirmed to continue and Alan is shown on the protagonist side when Team Flare starts, so no, this is the last match up and Ash's winning.
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>>27715361
>>27715946

Well, that explain ton of things,
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How in the fuck Pikachu decimated 2 semilegendaries and injured M-Char X?

What you will do if Ash doesn't win the league?

Will the Ash posting become a thing in hte entire 4chan if Ash wins?
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>>27716043
I remember watching the mega evo specials and thinking 'hey, it'd be fun if Alain ever met Ash'.

Now they're in love and battling and everything's perfect.
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To be fair I was excited too.
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>>27715913
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>>27716135
Paul's Ursaring got affected but it activated GUTS

I bet Goodra is gonna get rekt when Gooey activates Defiant.
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Hm don't know how I feel about todays episode.

It's a much needed improvement from the first 2 episodes of the league, I'll give it that. However considering the first two episodes were sub-par due to setting up this episode, I kind of expected a lot more out of it. Animation is great as always, but the battles weren't that interesting. I guess I will never be satisfied with this league, and there always is something to improve upon. Sorry for being "Mr.Negative", but I'm not satisfied with this. This episode needed to deliver, and it didn't quite do it for me.
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>>27716135
It's from Alola and its ability is Static Surfer
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>>27716154
I already gave a request: >>27716046
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Why is Lysandres design so shitty? He looks like a poorly drawn Ganondorf.
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>People ITT don't think pokeshipping was heavily implied the entire og series

Shiggster my diggster
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>>27716170
OH GOD WHATS WRONG WITH THEIR FINGERS
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>>27716186
There's no difference between Alolan Pikachu and normal Pikachu though.
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>>27716174
HAYAI!
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>"Hey Charizard, see how Tyranitar blocked Iron Tail? Do it with this!"

>>27716174
That's awesome, thanks.
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>>27716107
It's literally the same thing that happened with Shota.
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>>27716040
The Second Movie, you mean. Misty did jack shit in the First Movie.

>>27716102
>vast majority is dub rewriting
This fucking meme again.
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>>27716068
The only things that still make me a bit sceptical are the fact that Ash did so fucking well in the first half, and that he doesn't know Alain works for Team Flare. I really thought their final fight would be about this.
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>>27716175
Goodra doesn't have gooey. Didn't you watch Ash vs Clemont?
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pikachu beats metagross was total BS n plot armor. his win with tyranitar was the same. roast that electric mouse next week n make that slimy dragon to pieces of chop meats, bisharp! n finally destroy that overrated ninja frog with blast burn to hell. curse ash n greninja forever. this match could be a good mega char x vs y showdown but no i got a piece of shit satoshi greninja. damn it all those 2.5 years waiting for kalos league for nothing. screw xyz!
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>>27716218
Fixed it so it loops slightly better.
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>>27716182
Hello fag from serebii.
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Can I have a list of all the fillers to avoid? That merchant one with the butterfly was boring
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There are people who don't want Brock and Misty to return and shoot the shit with Ash like the good old days. I hear everyone blabbing about XYZ and this is it huh, Ash wandering around with some nobodies and that annoying gang from the X and Y versions games. lol this show
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>>27716204
>phonefag in this thread didn't watch the original OS and is using 4kids for his shitposting and fake subs

Shig la Dig
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So, this new episode totally justifies Team Rocket's Pikalust, right? They know what that lil'chu is capable of, they knew from the beginning.

James is a sweet guy. James best Rocket.
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>>27716166
Pikachu is fucking savage.

Never watch, play or buy anything Pokemon ever.

Nope. Not even in this board, the anime isn't as popular as it was in the 90s.
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>>27716182
k, go back to serebiiforums now
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>>27716204
They are just memeing.
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>>27716245
Made other webms as well.
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>>27716107
Ash is the Tobias of Kalos.
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>>27716223
>Pokeshipping was canon and had no rewrites!
This meme again.
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>>27716255
Everyone knows what pikachu is capable of but they always nerf him
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>>27716250
With descriptions
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>>27716275
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>>27716204
Oh wow this image is almost nostalgic
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>>27716204
>>27716268
Sure, they're the ones memeing memelord.
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Alan's irrelevant shitmons look like a fun bunch. Now I'm kinda sad we didn't get episodes more akin to the regular anime where he travels with them.
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>>27716275
I wish Iron Tail was good in the games

maybe it's gonna get a buff after GF realized how OP fairies are.
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Barring an interruption from Team Flare, I expect next episode to be Alain rallying his remaining Pokemon to "beat the odds" to a victory.
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Inbefore "ganbatte" is japanese for "you better win motherfucker".

>>27716253
Okay Shudo, weren't you dead though?
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You people still watch this shit? This show hit its peak in Johto. Now everything has to be complicated and dramatic what the fuck happened to 3 kids on the road.
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>>27716204
>if I post a shopped picture I can pretend I'm right
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Watching a an episode with a battle where Ash has the upper hand from start to finish is boring. This battle did not deliver. Tomioka not writing this is very noticeable.
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>>27716320
It is good, it just has shit accuracy.
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>>27716304
Well, I'd rather imagine it to be memeing than outright historical revisionism in the name of shipping.
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>Sceptile gets shilled in late AG and late XY as well as getting the honor of slaying Darkrai
>Blaziken gets shilled in late OS, late AG, and early XY
>Swampert is objectively the best of the three yet doesn't get shilled ever and they probably wouldn't have given it a mega if they didn't have to
Is being a Swampertfag truly suffering?
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>>27716329
delet this
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>>27716289
>yfw Team Flare interrupts right before Ash can win and the finals are negated
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So even if they didn't end up together, we all agree Pokeshipping was canon according to the creators, right?
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>>27716322
Preview shows that the odds get evened before the final matchup so no, it'll come down to Zard vs Frog as usual.
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>>27716281
There were rewrites, but Kanto had its hints, and since Misty was the first girl and her bickering with Ash practically made she show it just feels dirty to some people how she's getting shafted for some eye candy.
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>>27716289
You messed up XY&Z31's title, anon. Otherwise good list.
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>>27716351
it's anime brendan's canon starter at least
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>>27716351
Swampertfags are the original Chestnaughtfans. You deserve suffering.
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>>27716325
>yfw it's a command and Ash obeys
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>>27716378
Fuck
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>>27716351
Sceptile/Charizard/Greninja is the holy trinity of good starters according to the marketing team
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>>27716351

As a Zard Y fan, I know this feel.
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Ash was Shota's Tobias.
He worked so hard, and got so far.
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Honestly, the Nishitani animation from the preview did not impress me at all...
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>>27716329
>anime genwunner
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>>27716384
Gotta add a new word to Serena's dictionary.
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This sheer amount of denial converted into furious shitposting in every existing Pokémon community and the battle hasn't even concluded
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>>27716374
Misty hasn't appeared for more than a decade, Brock and Team Rocket were better characters than Misty, and she's implied with being really close with Tracey nowadays.
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>>27716343
Try nostalgiafags spouting crap to people that have seen the original and them being corrected.
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>>27716175
Thats my point, it's literally the only time that ability has ever come into play. Just compare the amount physical attacks Pikachu has taken since that battle against Paul and to how many of them who actually got paralyzed.
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>>27716410
>Ash is Alan's Harrison
>Alan's Charizard jobs against Ash's starter used to shill the next gen
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>>27716104
>Liking the anime after generation 1
>Liking anything involving Ash ketchum after the orange league
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>>27716432
I just hide the posts.
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>>27716410
So, Shota's going to become retarded once he arrive on the next region?
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>>27716405
It's true. I'm a fan of all three, but in terms of Hoenn starters, I just like Swampert more than Sceptile.
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>>27716289
18 has some Flare/Puni shit that should push it into yellow
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>>27716366
Shudo didn't like Misty period, but the advertising for the anime suggested it in the first place, yes.

It's mostly on girl's side though, just like the current Amour. Ash had, what, one or two Orange eps when he was jealous?
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>>27716374
Most of it was rewrites, Kanto had little going for it, OI did more and even that wasn't much, and in Johto it was straight up absent.
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>>27716432
It's basically these:
>people angry that they won't be able to meme "le Ash can't win le league, dude Red lmao" anymore
>people angry that Ash didn't win the league during their preferred season
>people angry that Ash didn't bring Charizard or one of his previous mons for nostalfaggery
>anti-Greninjafags
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Made a stitch as well.
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>>27716450
>Ash greninja is going to be on SuMo
Is like poetry!
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>>27716433
>and she's implied with being really close with Tracey nowadays
When was that ever implied?

Didn't Tracey date her sister?
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>>27716275
Pikachu redeemed himself in 20 fucking minutes
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>>27716461
You know something. I would totally love to see an anime about Shota. Like, from starting in Hoenn to where he is now and beyond.
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gewunner shitposter is going hard today
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>>27716460
I read anything that doesn't get filtered, laugh at them and then hide. It's glorious.
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>>27716417

At least show more respect to him. Next week's episode is going to be his last episode as a supervisor.
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>>27716366
You spammed this shit yesterday. You weren't right then, you're not right now.

>>27716479
The advertising didn't imply anything.
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>>27716499
Then attempted to show clemonts homolust.
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>>27716455
>liking an anime with shitty animation
>literally just keeps losing Ash
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>>27716499
Holy shit that buldge
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Okay, so my guess of how the battle will resume next episode.

>Pikachu vs. Charizard, Charizard wins and gets recalled
>Goodra vs. Bisharp, Goodra wins
>Goodra vs. Charizard, Charizard wins
>Greninja vs. Charizard, Greninja wins

So the thread is now raided by nostalgiafags and Shudo widows? Guess they got tired of posting porn after yesterday.
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>>27716520
Same here my nigga. Feels good knowing they got so btfo.
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>>27716498
Redbabies will still go:

>Red won the League in 3 episodes! Ash needed all the seasons!

They are incapable of understanding the concept of the same character in DIFFERENT continuities.
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>>27716526
Well, I've literally never been on this board before today, so that's pretty fucking difficult for me to have done.

I'm just a /co/ fucker that wanted to know if Ash was really going to win a league, but then everyone started sperging, so I thought it'd be fun to stay.
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>>27716478
Ok so Binacle Filler + some Team Flare
sound good?
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>>27716506
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>>27716501
Yeah, I wonder how will they explain it if it is included in SM.
>"This Greninja achieved an unique transformation, powered by the bond it had with the founder of the Alola Challenge."
>>
"there was a point in time where it was actually WRITTEN and the characters actually developed"
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>>27716544
Why does Ash even have Goodra? No one likes that Pokemon.
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>>27716410
Yet in the end, it didn't even matter.
I chuckled writing this
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>>27716548
I've found that Origins is incredibly overrated by most casuals.
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>>27716535
Clemont calm your dick
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>>27716498
Don't forget the people angry because Pikachu installed remove-smogon.exe ever since Korrina happened
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>>27716526
There were charts with arrow between portraits of characters - like little guides advertising the anime. They did hint at it.

They did one for Kalos too, with Serena's arrow to Ash being "Love..?", while Ash's back to her being "Friend!" It's kinda cute :)
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>>27716577
it sells body pillows like pancakes
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>>27716535
>gets excited by Ash destroying things
>still doubts him
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Is the song from XY&Z34 that starts at 20:18 and plays until the ending a song from a movie? It's fantastic.
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>>27716590
Casuals probably had a point, Origins is just as beloved as the classic show because it carries the same heart, none of this extra bullshit.
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>>27716549
Your mistake was spouting shit without ever knowing about Shudo's journals, newfag. Also:

>/co/
Literally tumblr, only one step behind /lgbt/.
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>>27716590

Can confirm, am casual, loved Origins
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>>27716535
The last stitch/webm for now is our based Padre showing off his GUTS.
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>>27716555
Thank you, I didn't watch most of BW.

WELP

>>27716590
The use of FRLG design as well as THREE EPISODES made them feel vindicated in regard to fanboying.
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>>27716605
The chart only did "?" between Ash and Misty. It didn't imply shit.

They did two with Ash and Serena and "nakama" isn't just a straight up translation to "friend".
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>>27716548
>the same guy who lost 5 mons to a Rhyhorn: the OHKO machine won the League

that should tell you a thing or two about how piss easy Kanto was
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>>27716577
It made me buy a bodypillow.
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>>27716479

And also the Ghost episode and the Balloon eppisode where Team Rocket of all people teased them. It was two sided for most of the run 'till the Trovita Island's trials.

However, it felt more two sided because Ash was a jerkass and Misty a tsundere with anger management issues. Typical Rumiko Takahashi couple
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>>27716627
>Origins is just as beloved as the classic show because it carries the same heart
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>>27716626
It's literally the OP, anon...
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>>27716643
What mala fortuna, Weavile...
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>>27716681
That wasn't even two-sided. You just literally said why it looked like it was when it wasn't.
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>>27716627
By "extra bullshit" you mean "Pokemon I didn't know as a kid and therefore I don't have nostalgia for them", right?
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>>27716704
I said XY&Z34 retard. Pretty sure it's a piece from the Genesect movie.
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>>27716681
Ranma was really a blight upon anime. It gave us the cancerous tsundere cliche that eventually reached both it's logical consequence and it's lowest point at the same time:

Kirino
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>>27716544
Greninja must get hit a couple of times so his victory against edegezard will be more fair.
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>>27716692
"I'm correct because of a smug reaction image"
The problem with the current anime is the same issue with most modern US shows its all corporate focus group bullshit, no risks.
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>>27716127

t.still furious NaruSaku.
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>>27716118
as much as I wish that would happen, it's a bit late
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>>27716692
>50% of it are filler
>massive genwun
>nonexistent gyms
>MASSIVE quality swings


tee bee hee he has kind of a point here
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>>27716749
There's no song there.
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>>27716627
>Origins is just as beloved as the classic show
by who
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>>27716681
Team Rocket teased them about it and there was like five episodes during all of Orange Islands, Indigo league had like 3-4 in 70+ episodes.

It was less two sided and more that dubbing pushed it more like they did with Digimon.
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>>27716555
>tfw the following episode they introduced Serena
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>>27716789
Yeah there is, it's background music from a movie.
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>>27716778
let me educate you anon
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>>27716681
Yeah, I guess there's that. Both of them had actual character back than, before early-to-mid Johto consumed it with its endless filler fatigue.

The whole of pre-Johto had this "early installment weirdness" all over it in regards to the main cast's behavior, and it's kinda cute how Dengeki Pikachu manga too it all to the logical conclusion.
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>>27716590
Origin feels boring to be honest. Like nothing new. With an op protagonist.
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>>27716810
I read your post as "an ending song from a movie".
Fuck me
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>James is the only one remaining loyal to Ash, Jessie and Meowth are sluts for Alain cock

Best Rocket
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>>27716824
>Red is Naruto
Who would have thought.
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>>27716762
Sure, but that won't stop him.
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>>27716837
Ah sorry. I found it anyways, it's "Everyone Kill the Fire!" from the Genesect movie. It's pretty good. Bitch about BW all you want, but their movies had fantastic score.
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Noivern got screwed over.

THIS IS THE PRECISE REASON WE NEEDED TO SEE MORE OF ASH'S BATTLES.

I hope you're all happy about this being the Sawyer/Alain battle tournament, because I sure as hell am not.

Pikachu DID NOT need to take out BOTH Tyranitar and Metagross, that's bullcrap.

Hawlucha loses against Sawyer just so Ash can take out both Clawitzer and Aegislash.

Noivern loses so Pikachu can take out both Tyranitar and Metagross. Yeah I am NOT happy at all.

I would've been happy with Greninja or Goodra if it got to take out two Pokemon.

NOT Pikachu. I freaking knew that it's lack of screentime would be made up at the league. Very upset at the writers for doing this to Ash's temporary Pokemon.
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>>27716868
shut the fuck up dman
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>>27716738
I like each generation of games better then the last and play on Smogon even though I suck. I'm talking about all this fake Alan shit and Ash having a team almost entirely consisting of XY favorites. If the writing style could leap back to how it was and if Alain was more like Gary (He was Gary motherfucking Oak for godsake) I'd probably continue watching.
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>>27716626
It's this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9HkGpKfOLY
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>>27716824
Origins' first episode, and Red vs Mewtwo are really great. It's the rest of the miniseries that heavily drops the ball.
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>>27716867
BW is generally agreed to have pretty fucking amazing music.
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>>27716868
you sound bitter
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>>27716868
>tfw literal autist Alexander18 has become much less autistic than other serebii users like this one
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>>27716795
There's really not that many dub-only pushing. It's peculiar, yes, but not deserving of this whole "dub-only" meme.

I mean, I guess one could talk about US-only content that was produced separately and pushed the shipping (like all those Christmas songs sung by the dub cast), but that's a separate story altogether, IMHO.

Interestingly, after getting their hands on Haruka, 4kids actually went to remove Kasumi's "muh Satoshi" hint from one of the specials and changed it to "Ash and Brock, my friends!" instead.
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>>27716908
music is great, love the Rainbow ED and the movie EDs, especially Egao

it's just literally everything else that's a problem
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>>27716896
Ash's team was full of Gen I favourites in the original anime, though.
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>>27716899
Found it already but thanks.

On the topic of music score.... WHERE THE FUCK IS THE VOLCANION MUSIC
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>>27715453

If an ojousama+tsundere girl enters into the Ashbowl, then the other girls are really screwed.

If the rumor about building your own league is true, then Ash just should become like Based Coach, build a gym, have a new gen of trainers as his protegees and score a goal from the other side of the field marrying a better girl than every pokegirl.
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>>27716896
Gary was great for bantz (although that only worked because of Ash being a bratty, overconfident newfag), but a shit battler altogether. And kind of a pussy too, one big defeat from Ash was all that it took to make him quit being a trainer.

>XY favorites
He's in Kalos, of course he would use a Kalos team.
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>>27716896
>if Alain was more like Gary
Gary acted all smug and superior, but never actually bested Ash in battle. He even jobbed in the League worse than Ash.

Sort of like the games, eh?
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>>27716965
someone had a link a while ago, no idea where that went
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>>27716983
Go get fucked by Chickenhead's ladypenis, Lillie.
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>>27717012
Was it a mediafire link? I could search it on the archives.
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Speaking of BGM's which one is used in pic related?
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>>27716867
BW had

>great movie OST
>good openings (I would say great openings if Episode N did not exist)
>arguably the best endings
>three based BW mons (Leavanny, Snivy and Shadescroc)
>Georgia

And that's it.

>>27716965
Fuck, true, I did not download that.
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>>27717023
I think it was, or maybe it was Mega
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>>27716934
It wasn't even "muh Satoshi".

Then they literally put Ash talking about Misty in a movie as he talked with Max when he wasn't even referencing her.
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I have the Volcanion soundtrack, should I upload it?
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>>27717049
>if it was mega i'd have to sift through thousands of posts with the word "mega" in it
Let's hope it's not.
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>>27717036
>One of my favorite Pokemon was wasted on fucking Iris

Why Excadrill?
WHY
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>>27716983
Lillie isn't Tsundere chuckles. They have Serena anyway.
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>>27716983
Honestly, just drop the "Ash romance" plot for now until the end of Ash's run (LOL). Have his proteges be the potential romantic couple instead, while he acts all oblivious to that.

Look at what we have now: hints are dropped, hopeful fans arrive, disappointment ensues when it all adds up to nothing in the end. Mistyfags are crying around, soon to be joined by Serenafags. Stop Ash-shipping, period.
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>>27716964
Compare Ash now and Ash from the old show, the're not the same person in appearance or behavior, Ash used to be an actual kid.

The closes thing to the real Ash is Max from Dinosaur King
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>>27717063
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>>27717062
>Ash: "I have a friend. I miss her a lot."
>in actuality Ash was clueless at Misty holding back tears while parting ways at the end of the OS and went his merry way home none the wiser
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>>27717097
>LOL
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Does this zygarde shit ever go anywhere worthwhile? ~10 episodes into xyz and I'm already sick of this shit
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>>27717097
Pokeshippers are crying because of a dub while the original didn't push anything. With Serena they've pushed it everywhere in the original, and the dub actually has to make it shippier for people to get it.
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>>27716757

Why can't we have classical tsundere (those ones who better themselves a lot in the end for the MC) like best girl from Ina11 or even Shitoge (yeah, she's a shit, however she tried very hard to become a better person for Rakushit) fron Clichekoi instead of those lame excuses of modern tsundere (Akane, Asuka, Kirino, Misty, Naru)...??? The classic tsun is always more interesting to watch and makes you eager to ship her with the MC.
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>>27717062
>It wasn't even "muh Satoshi".
By this anime's standards, it was.

>Then they literally put Ash talking about Misty in a movie as he talked with Max when he wasn't even referencing her.
Yeah, that was weird. Well, fuck them.
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>>27717143
be patient anon
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>>27716983
The thing about no gyms was true, the thing about building a league is false.

>>27717097
>implying
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>>27717097
>LOL

remember when ash jumped off the prism tower

consider the same
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>>27717143
Red skies and Lumiose City destroyed.
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>>27717143
The Zygarde shit is the A Plot of XY&Z.
The League is the the B Plot.

We're currently finishing the League, so we can move back to the A Plot because it appears that shit is going to go nuclear.
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>>27717143
It builds up we dont know the payoff yet anon
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>>27717162
>tsunderes
Literally babby's first anime girl cliche.
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>>27717122
>Compare Ash now and Ash from the old show, the're not the same person in appearance or behavior
You're right. Ash is way cooler and much more competent now.
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>>27717062
Or, retard, maybe, just maybe since the original dub consulted the Japanese creators they could retroactively add foreshadowing to what used to be a conclusion to this beaten horse show? Bulbapedia much?
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>>27717097
>LOL
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>>27717143
This isn't a 20 episode animu, Autismo.
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>>27717198
Hey don't trigger the nostalgiafags.
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/4i6gy9d0lu8eydi/%5B2016.07.27%5D+Pok%C3%A9mon+the+movie+XY%26Z+Volcanion+to+Karakuri+no+Magearna+Music+Collection+%5BMHCL-30391%5D+%28flac%2Bcue%2Blog%29.zip
I believe I may have found it.
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>>27717199
>Bulbapedo
>reliable source of information
fuck off Pomf go touch children or something
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>>27717097
>Mistyfags are crying around, soon to be joined by Serenafags. Stop Ash-shipping, period.

Probably the most realistic and sensible sentence in this whole thread.
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>>27717220
Thanks for the leaked gen 7 dolphin porn.
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>>27717199
>just maybe since the original dub consulted the Japanese creators they
>the interview Hidaka did that everyone likes to hold for Ash not winning has him talk that he doesn't know about the dub doing ridiculous changes
>bulbapedo
Yes anon, you're a retard.
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>>27717161
>Pokeshippers are crying because of a dub while the original didn't push anything.
There are still shipping "hints" in the original, the dub didn't add that many.

>With Serena they've pushed it everywhere in the original, and the dub actually has to make it shippier for people to get it.
No, it's the same "girl hints, with minimum Ash hints". Serena is just more of a romantic person than Misty was, so with her it's par of her character motivations and their foundations, rather than just cheap cute moments / played for laughs like in Misty's run.
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so the xy movies are bad?
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>come into /padt/ expecting to talk about the first half of a very hype battle
>it's full of people nostalgiafagging

Why are people so butthurt about XY?
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>>27717097
>Stop Ash-shipping
this.
He doesn't need some nobody with tits when he has Pikachu.
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So did he win the league?
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>>27717198
Seriously dude? Grow up
The Genwunners in this thread are pointing the wrong way, Ash doesn't need to go back to his roots, he's already ruined, discard him entirely and have the show be about Sun kids today have no reason to watch him.
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>>27717281
Check the old threads for the hype.
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>>27717281
We've been talking about the battle the whole day.
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>>27717263
They're mediocre. Diancie a cute though.
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>>27717281
Check the old threads for the epic Pikachu comment combo.
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>>27717297
>Ash doesn't need to go back to his roots, he's already ruined, discard him entirely

I am really hoping that Ash winning a league is their means of doing this
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>>27717161
>the original didn't push anything
4kids pushing it is one thing, pretending there were no hints at all in the japanese version is another. Now shut up and get hype for megahomo.
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>>27717301
But they're archived now.

>>27717306
I just arrived.
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>>27717261
>There are still shipping "hints" in the original, the dub didn't add that many.
Ho boy.

>No, it's the same "girl hints, with minimum Ash hints".
Except the moments where Ash does something and people got it, which the dub had to make it more shippy so people would get it.
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>>27717031
I think that's an anime exclusive BGM, because it's not anywhere I've listened to from movies.
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>>27717281
People really, REALLY want to hang on to the belief that only the Indigo League episodes of the anime were good. That's why they're called nostalgiafags.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGD4oeVrihY

anyone remember this?

what a fucking cocktease, showing pidgeot and then cutting him from the movie
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>>27717339
I didn't say there wasn't anything, just that it wasn't pushed.
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>>27717263
No?
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That first half was something else. I'm really excited for the finale.
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Gotta agree with some people here BW's mere existence implies that there was a period in Ash's life where he randomly became a complete idiot out of nowhere and the fact that it's still canon should be dealt with. The reason people are calling back for the original series feel is because faggots wont shut up elsewhere about how Ash is finally winning.

When people come to see what the fuck people are talking about its an entirely different show
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>>27717063
No shit you should. Do it faggot.
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>>27717063
Yes please do it!

>>27717281
Faggots, it's been going since the last thread. But we know that the anime is at its best rn and rhats what matters. Also just call stale noodle from now on and it shuts him up.
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>>27717237
Difference is the former didn't have a lot going for it while the latter's been a subplot and the no shipping's been done before.
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>>27717097
>LOL

i like you
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>>27717342
The threads were mostly hype, as Pikagod rolled over Alan's pseudos, proving that one pasta true.

>>27717366
Heh. I'd say the original episodes OUTSIDE of the League were good. There was something incredibly strange and inviting in the few early installment eps, before the formula was sort of figured out.
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>>27717281
We talked as much as we could about the battle before it converted into a battlefield. Now here I am, glorified by the denial coming out of people who can't believe Ash's got this.
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>>27717349
>Except the moments where Ash does something and people got it, which the dub had to make it more shippy so people would get it.

Come again?
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>>27717281
The usual. Ash winning, him having a waifu, non-stop climax action.
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>>27715932
Why are people shitting on this, do people actually still like the pokemon cartoon holy shit. It's turned into every other anime ever, it used to have an identity, it takes serious cognitive dissonance to even pretend it could top the OG show. Its just like Naruto in that respect
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>>27717496
fuck off Gary
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>>27717480
Did I stutter?
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>>27717281
The battle was great, but you are just late to the party.

>>27717471
YES THIS THING

thanks for posting
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>>27717496
>it used to have an identity
Yeah, an identity you'd like to shit about but can't any more.
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>>27717380
why was this such a great song guys
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>>27717496
OG show had a great start, but a disappointing League.

XYZ gives us the League we deserve.
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>>27717545
still fucking hate that ref
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>>27717516
No, you just forgot to check that you were making sense before hitting that 'post' button.
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>>27717468
Kanto as a whole was an experimental season, as you could find shit there that there would literally never appear outside it like real-life fishes, the Pokemon Tech and the pity badges, and stretching it a little, it was more slapstick/gag/adventure than the current adventure/action.

The league was fun, but from a battling standpoint it was absolute crap.
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>>27717471
Thanks, unfortunately I missed that.

>>27717522
Yeah, that's too bad.
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>>27717567
I checked and I did.
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>>27717545
Not exactly. XY&Z's league has the proper amount of spectacle in the battles, but the rivals don't come anywhere close to Paul. I don't feel an emotional connection here on the level I did at the Sinnoh league's climax.
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>>27717606
This is more serious than I thought then. Good luck, son.
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>>27717576
Don't forget the tiger image in Cinnabar Island.

>>27717607
Have you watched the Mega Evolution specials? If you didn't you should.
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I think the main thing the OS had over XY that a lot of people arent noticing is character and chemistry, that's pretty much it and not all it takes to make a show, but it leaves an impression
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>>27717624
What, your autism didn't let you read up about the dub changes they've done?
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>>27717655
The characters do have chemistry. Unless by "chemistry" they mean bickering because that's usually what it boils down with some.
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>>27717607
Well, repeating Paul with another Anti-Ash would be bad, don't you think?

Yes, Alan does not have a personal connection to Ash outside of wanting genuine competition, but he is a complex (well, complex for this anime at least) character, with his own motivations, moral and character support, and the whole Team Flare story arc.

On Ash's side, he gets to battle a guy he was never able to defeat before. That's... something, I guess. Ash not having a bone to pick with Alan like he had with Paul doesn't weaken his desire to overcome Alan as an opponent.
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>>27717655
Fuck you and your compromise shit, the show was about Ash, Brock, and Misty and used to be the shit, then they decided to be like Sonic and add a thousand useless characters out of nowhere (Not the pokemon)
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>>27717662
This stopped being about content about 4 posts ago when you forgot how sentences work.
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>>27717655
They had chemistry, until it stopped being relevant as the show drowsed into a line of filler eps with Misty and Brock barely doing anything.

OS wasn't all the same in its long run.
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>>27717655
>>27717704
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>>27717704
You mean used to be shit.
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>>27717704
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>>27717729
Hey, not my fault you can't read and do a little digging.
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>>27717704
This is bait, my big guys.
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>>27717734
It stopped being relevant when they figured out what direction they wanted to go with it which was after the first dozen or so episodes.
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>>27717468
>Heh. I'd say the original episodes OUTSIDE of the League were good.
I liked Kanto league, except Ash First Loss the Episode it wasn't bad.
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>>27717761
>still not getting it.

Okay.
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I just finished watching the Episode and well, it was pretty damn good. My only complains are the choice for the music playing in the fight, i mean i didn't felt like they were right for the fight or hype at all. Second, all the battles felt incredible fast. Just one or two moves and it was over just like in the fight with Shota. Pikachu kicking ass was amazing and i'm glad Hawlucha got a pretty good moment with Noivern and battle. Overall a pretty good first half of the fight but could have been better.
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>>27716238
Yeah, yeah, Noodle, what else?

Even changing your posting style so no one will recognize your autistic shit

>but muh zard, muh infernape
Go watch DP/OS again, filthy nigga.
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Not buying it, I remember when this show was about Ash goddamn Ketchum, not Ash and his oversized posse
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>>27717842
delet this
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>>27717842
Shudo didn't even consider Ash nothing more than a plot device to show other, more interesting characters and situations. The guy didn't like Ash.
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>>27717808
It's clear you can't read. Read it again and do a little digging.
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>>27717842
When exactly was that?
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>>27717885
Sure.
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>>27717860
Jesus Christ I hope GO never adds these abominations
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>>27717884
>Shudo could only connect to Team Rocket because they weren't kids
>Ash is a plot device to show off Team Rocket

Really makes you think.
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I've been pretty positive that Ash would win this League up until now but this episode had some weird shit

>Alan Monologue
>Sad Manon
>Professor worried for Alan and asking himself if something was wrong
>Diantha and all of Ash friends saying he had an amazing start

They literally pulled a lot of fucking deathflags on Ash this episode. I'm still sure that he'll win but if Ash loses i won't be surprised at all.
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>>27717905
You're on the young side arent you
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>>27717944
Kill yourself.
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>>27717944
Nah, go is ded
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>>27717970
The fact that only Alan had monologues in this part likely means that Ash will in the second half.
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>>27717944
They won't add Infernape either, faggot
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>>27717125
>>27717414
>>27717428
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack
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>>27717976
Because I just want fucking pokemon and not some extraneous shit
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Alright /padt/, ever since around XY15, I've been watching the entire series from scratch, starting with OS01. I liked what I saw with XY and had a feeling the show would be special this time around, and I had not seen everything in the anime and wanted complete context on everything if Ash happened to win the league this time around.

Today I just happened to end up at the Unova League. I've never seen it before and the only thing I knew about it was that Ash lost against the guy with the headband.

And... oh boy I'm not sure if it's worth ranting about, you all know the deal. How the fucking hell could Ash lose a 3v1 advantage against that literal retard and his fucking Riolu? With Unfezant no less?? Jesus christ it's like they gave up long before they tried with this league.
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>>27717627
I did. The issue isn't with Alan himself, he's a fine character. The issue is that it doesn't feel like his rivalry with Ash is really pushing either of him or Ash to a new level like the Ash/Paul thing did, and I think it's purely due to Alan being introduced to the main show a bit too late to really build up the bond there.

I don't want them to just repeat the Ash/Paul thing, but I would've liked a greater sense of them evolving further as trainers by fighting against one another.
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>>27717973
No, really, last I remember is the first few episodes of OS until Misty forced her way along, Brock asked to join, Tracey invited himself along, May coerced Ash into traveling together, Max just tagged along Dawn asking to join, Iris followed him, Cilan asked to join, Clemont and Bonnie asked to join, and Ash invited Serena.
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>>27717973
When exactly was that?
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>>27718017
This shit right here is why people prefer to pretend BW doesn't exist.
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>>27718017
>Jesus christ it's like they gave up long before they tried with this league.
They gave up when they started BW.
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>>27718027
Ash character (as a 10 year-old) is already fully evolved anon the only thinks he needs is winning a league and grow up.
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Sun Moon girl Satoshi and Maho... Sun/Moon girl Name not know. She is not love love Satoshi like Serena. There is love love with lily and tali. serena not in island first episodes twelve. Satoshi carries a gift of Serena from kalos with clothes. Not know much else. Satoshi get flameu cat.
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Holy shit, I actually prefer the Clemont/Serena faggot rather than all these anime genwunners
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>>27718017
don't get me fucking started on Cameron

>thought that the Unova League was in Johto
>didn't realize you needed a full team for a 6v6 battle
>stayed at the league stadium all night and was still late

BW was fucking rigged
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>>27717884
Didn't he planned to end show with Ash winning Kanto League actually? Or it wasn't his idea?
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>>27718109
This is kind of nostalgic
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Raws/subs when?
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What's the argument and what are the sides and what does any of this have to do with generation 1
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>>27718110
>Holy shit, I actually prefer the Stale rather than Stale
ftfy
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>>27718148
basically

>WAAAH XY SUCKS OS WAS PERFECT WHO ARE THESE NEW POKEMON I DON'T LIKE CHANGE BRING BACK MISTY BRING BACK BROCK MAKE ASH SHIT AGAIN WAAAH
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>>27718137
Shudo's plan was Ash loses and gives up.
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Kek at this stuff that only remains on-screen for a single frame.
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>>27718109
Been a while since we saw you. Right before XY59 right?
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>>27718174
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
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>>27718017
>Jesus christ it's like they gave up long before they tried with this league.

The most painful part, for me, was that they had a good reason to do the "Team X interrupts the League" plot that people are still prophesying for the next episode with Team Flare. Since, you know, that's what Team Plasma did in BW, the games.

But instead, they dropped the original Team Plasma completely, didn't use them until way late into the series, and it was organized in a way that only Neo Team Plasma style ever existed for this organization.
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>>27718137
We don't know what the original plan was beyond "it would have been more or less the way the Kanto arc went, except it would have ended after the league", but it would have been Hidaka and Yuyama's ultimate call, not Shudo's.
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>>27718166
Are there any proofs?
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>>27718162
thanks anon
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Asgard needs me, chicken. I can't stay with you making love very single day.
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>>27718001
This better not be horse porn anon because I already fapped this morning.
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>>27718204
He said it somewhere in one of his butthurt blog entries, but since he was the head writer and not the director, it would've just been his personal preference rather than something he'd have got to decide.

There's a reason we say "based director" and not "based head writer".
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>>27718204
His journal, where he talks about how he hated Ash and Misty and loved writing Team Rocket.
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>>27717822
The Hawlucha and Noivern moment was pretty good, too bad for Noivern though.

>>27717970
Manon being sad happened in the previous episode too, plus not a surprise since she's cheering for Alan.
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>>27717822
Yeah i pretty much agree with this. The fight is great but not WOW. Charizard Vs Greninja better be amazing
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>>27718260
>implying right now Based Director isn't saying "Fuck it, throw everything in there." leaving Tomioka, Omode, and Fujita to take the wheel
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>>27718163
XY does suck, Brock and Misty shouldn't come back, they just should never have left in the first place.
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>>27718252
>not being willing to rub one out to Mudsdale at any time of the day
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>>27718027
He has a different motivation, not just rivalry, that makes him different from all the other rivals(in addition to being deceived and used as a puppet by the evil team).

>>27718143
RAWs are in the OP.
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>>27718314
>>>/mlp/
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>>27718163
Thanks brah
>>
KNEEL BEFORE ZOD
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>>27718017
Just imagine this happened:
>BW never happened
>Ash took vacations between DP and XY in Unova, met Cilian and the Unova girls
>captured Snek, Shadescroc, among others
>he decided to bring Charizard back to Oak
>met Alexa, who told him about Kalos
>returned to Pallet Town
>last episode of BW happens
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>>27718379
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>>27717970
They haven't done the Ash monologuing yet and what Serena said is basically the same thing she was saying when he faced Shota.
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>>27718386
You can't imagine that.
You wouldn't have had a broken Ash otherwise. It was every failure piling up and having him break.
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>>27718386
>met Cilian

is it too late to retcon this motherfucker out of existence? I've seen like 2 episodes of BW and he's my least favorite character of all time
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>>27718520
Cilan > Iris
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>>27718540
dat boi
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>>27718393
>>27718429
Daijobudaijobudaijobudaijobudaijobudaijobu.
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>>27718540
Looks like Water Pulse. Can he still do that?
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>>27718540
Mizu Shuriken act 3?
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>>27718386
My favorite thing about BW/B2W2 was their Team stories.

It felt like, at first, anime tried to do its own spin on that with Rocket vs Plasma, but then it was completely dropped after the earthquake.

Focusing less on formula and more on Team plots the whole way through would, IMHO, make BW seasons much better.
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>>27718531

No. Iris was forgettable. I wish I could forget about Cilian.
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>>27718540
What about it exactly? It looks like a Water Shuriken spinning.
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>>27718540
>True Moon Ring
We are Megaman now
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>>27717970
He probably won't win the league and he may lose Serena to Clemont come the Flare arc...
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>>27718598
Cilan was a very enjoyable character.
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>>27718656

The saltiness is strong in you, Noodle.
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>>27718313
Its posts like this that make me really happy Ash is winning the league in a saga Misty/Brock have no appearances in. Feels good, man.
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Ok middle >>27718656
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>>27718656
You mean Ash is winning and Serena will be busy with Ash to bother with Clemont come the Flare arc.
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>>27718656
noodley noodles
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>>27718429
why not exactly?
like, maybe ash was overconfident, maybe fletchling was strong that much at that moment, its a gym leader after all, not a lvl 5 snivy
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>>27718732
THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
EVERY SINGLE THING HE SAID WAS DANGEROUSLY CHEESY
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>>27718796
That's the best part Chester.
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>>27718796
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>>27718832
Looks like you had plenty of fun here.
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>>27715439
>Ash is somehow more retarded than he was in BW
>the companions are shit
>Ash loses to a guy with only one pokemon but is still allowed to compete in a six on six tournament.
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>>27718109
>There is love love with lily and tali.
>Tali

Who's Tali??? The jap. name for a Team Skull member??

Give sauce or i won't be able to believe you.
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Are you guys ready for Ash getting assfucked and Clemont killing himself?
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>>27718598
Cilan would've been memorable in other series, unlike Iris.

>>27718656
Ah stale I was wondering where you were, you had me worried for a second with all the nostalgiafagging.

What if Serena falls ON Clemont?
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new bread when
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>>27718754
>Serena will be busy with Ash to bother with Clemont come the Flare arc.

Proof?
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New bred:
>>27718883
>>27718883
>>27718883
Added the movie soundtrack to the OP
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>>27718882
Why would Clemont kill himself?
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>>27718868
>the orgasm was too strong
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>>27718891
i would love that Serena fell on me tbqh
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>>27718878
Newfag pls
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>>27718873
>He goes against a water/electric pokemon and wonders what he could use to defeat it
>Pikachu iron tails his head in anger
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>>27718953
Sure Ash, but now concentrate in the last part of the final.
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