.

Only lv 30 there....baby difficulty confirmed.

>>27713076
This better be the 2nd island.

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>>27713076
post YFW since no gyms, it doesnt matter what order you go to which island.

>>27713117
This

not a single npc has been shown to have more than 2 pokemon yet
>inb4 durr its a kid's game its not s'pose 2 b difficult XD
so were all the other pokemon games, its getting progressively easier each generation

>>27713139
it's the fourth island to the east.

>>27713190
this

>>27713139
It's physically the farthest from where you start. Hopefully they go out of order.

>>27713076
Isn't that on the third island? Damn...

>>27713139
Melemele is first, Akala is second. This one is third or fourth

Who is デカゲース ?

Spinarak Was Exclusive To Gold, On The First Route You Could Find Ledyba, Ledyba Was Exclusive To Silver, So Sun Has Spinarak And Moon Has Ledyba.

>>27713236
this

>>27713235
>>27713190
>>27713202

What if after we beat each island they put gyms and we need to beat them? What if we can also go another region?

It is impossible that GF made the game so you finish at lvl 50.

>>27713236
Gumshoos

>>27713117
That looks more like a port city, the first step on that particular island, and probably our first battle with him, I ain't worried too much.

>>27713286
They kinda did that with bw

>>27713190
To be fair, most of the gameplay we've seen has been from early in the game, and we're probably looking at Team Skull's first appearances (provided that this isn't just generic trailer footage rather than actual gameplay).

>>27713076
That island is pretty big. In terms of levels, Melemele you'll go from 5-14 or so, Akala should be 15-28 probably. So this island, the biggest one... this fight should be happening right as you're around level 30, just after finishing Akala. It's not the last island, because we still have the artificial one and the Solgaleo/Lunala island to the west. And considering the fact that Tapu Koko is encountered at level 60, this fight is still relatively early in the game.

You're gonna spend a lot of time on the easternmost island. It's huge.

>>27713117
except no NPC in HGSS had high-level mons until the elite four and that shit was hard af

>>27713286
>No. No. and NO!
he'll most likely be a diversion for the serious antagonist in the story, or you'll have to fight him multiple times

Why are you all talking about the difficulty? The point is the tower that looks like Tin/Bell Tower.

>>27713117
Are people really dumb enough to think this would be the only battle with him?

i very highly doubt the levels are final
according to the totem pokemon trailer
Gumshoos (totem on first island) is fought at level 15 and Lurantis (totem on second island) is fought at level 25

>>27713190
>not a single npc has been shown to have more than 2 pokemon yet
Doesn't Hala have 3 in your battle against him as a Kahuna?

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>>27713190
>not a single npc has been shown to have more than 2 pokemon yet

The very first Gym Leader/Kahuna has three which is more than usual.

>>27713463
I think they're final. The explanation here >>27713372 would make sense for level scaling.

>Melemele (where Hau and Gumshoos fights are)
Levels 5-15
>Akala (where the Lurantis fight is)
Levels 15-30
>Eastern Island (where Guzma fight is)
Levels 30-50
>Solgaleo/Lunala island on the west
Levels 50-60something

And then the endgame is on the artificial island.

>>27713359

>Team Skull's first appearances

The Guzma encounter is mid-game.

All early team boss encounters have had at least 3 Pokemon. This is just pathetic.

>>27713456
I'm not saying its the only battle but if that island is the 3rd you visit and your still at lv 30 its bad. Unless you can't fully explore akala and have to circle around.

>>27713656

>Unless you can't fully explore akala and have to circle around.

Unlikely.

>The final trial on each island is called the grand trial. It is a Pokémon battle against the kahuna who leads that island. If a trial-goer succeeds in clearing this grand trial, he or she will be publicly recognized as having cleared all of the island’s trials and can move on to the next island.

Melemele:

Totem and Captain 1
Totem and Captain 2
Totem and Captain 3
Totem and Captain 4
Kahuna Hala

Akala:

Totem and Captain 5
Totem and Captain 6
Totem and Captain 7
Totem and Captain 8
Kahuna ???

Ulaula:
Guzma battle (Two Pokemon including Ariados, level 30)

The game is obviously being set up so that players are drastically overleveled against and outnumber bosses no matter what. Either that or Alola is smaller than feared.
This is modern Pokemon. The only thing you can do is wait for hacks that actually give the games a challenge, because nobody actually has the will to bitch to Gamefreak loud enough for them to change things.

>Play nuzlocke
>Change battles to "set"
>Use one type only (gym leader)
>Turn xp off
>Skip trainer battles and don't KO every wild pokemon
Not hard fags.

>>27714043
Yeah, and super mario 64 is hard with one hand.
You shouldn't have to impose loads of different restrictions on yourself to make a game require you to think whatsoever.

>>27714043

Cant believe people think that running from wild pokemon is considered artificial difficulty.
Every single game since the start of series ALWAYS run from every pokemon you dont catch, do zero grinding.
Every game is decently challenging with zero grinding, its how they are meant to be played in my opinion.

>>27713605
Here's how i'll think it'll work:
>Melemele
Levels 1-10
>Akala
Levels 11-20
>Eastern Island
Levels 21-30
>Solgaleo/Lunala island on the west
Levels 31-40something (45 for Solgaleo/Lunala)

Victory Road equivalent spot will have 41-50

Post game hidden cave will have 51-60

>>27714294
Those levels are way too low you're retarded tbqh

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Is the same guy making all these threads?

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>>27713076

>>27714353
Yea cause onix is such a hard Pokemon to fight. Also turn on hard mode bitch

>>27713378
>grinding is hard

>>27713076
I was kinda hoping Ariados would have an Alola form to stop it from being absolute trash.

>>27714333
Never forget that Lance's highest leveled Pokemon was a Level 50 Dragonite in GSC.

>>27714435
fat chance. GF has been ignoring ariados for almost two decades.

>>27714333
Maybe YOU'RE too high.
lay off the peace pipe, Chief Sucks-on-Dicks

Guys the place where you fight Guzma on the big island is the first town of that place. It could potentially make it so that you're level 50+ by the final challenge.

>>27714353
Probably.

>>27714353
>opponent pokemon is level 30
>trainer pokemon is level 29

this is Diantha all over again

>>27713117

Unless this is a high level gen

>>27714489
This. People are completely ignoring that the port for the island is one that town, therefore it is the first town you go through when you get to that island.

>people trying to defend and excuse this

Just accept that SM will be at least as easy as XY and ORAS already.

You fight him at the beginning of the third island's first town. ^^ And it doesn't mean that he really has a lvl 30 Ariados in endgame. ^^

>>27714628
I already accepted that.

>>27714628
I think you're just going to find reasons to complain either way, so you should fuck off.

>>27714757
Acceptance is the last stage anon.
Denial is the first.

>>27714757
So we aren't allowed to complain about anything regarding Pokemon games on the Pokemon board?

I would be genuinely happy is SM had the difficulty level of Platinum. Or Emerald or BW or BW2. But it's pretty obviously going to be completely easy mode.

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>>27714353
I can cherrypick examples too

>>27714839
Yeah, that is an improved team. Good job, retard. You didn't got the point of the picture at all.

>>27714839
that motherfucking xatu and claydol combo
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>27714818
>So we aren't allowed to complain about anything regarding Pokemon games on the Pokemon board?
You are. You aren't allowed to complain about FUCKING NOTHING, though. Or, you are, but it makes you seem like an idiot.
>the final boss of RBY has 3 Pokemon, one of them is an Onix, another is unevolved and has just 1 move
>the final boss of DP has only 3 Pokemon, one of which is a weak unevolved one
This is you right now.

>>27714950
>one pokemon out of three is shit
>one pokemon out of 2 is shit

It's still fucking bad,not even that anon.

>>27713261
Prove it

>>27714628
I expect those games to be even easier than XY.
I'll just breeze through them and then collect everything and start doing online battling and breeding. Shiny hunting and hyper training.

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>>27713076
>Ariados
>Bell Tower
JOHTO CONFIRMED

>>27714818
You're allowed to complain in any of the hundred other threads created right now talking about this specifically.
Every thread about the trailer I've seen so far had the same handful of retards starting a genwar that has nothing to do with the topic

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>>27713190
>Pretending to be THIS retarded.

Hala has three mons, as he's probably the first kahuna.

>>27713608
Except we don't really know that it's mid-game. We don't have enough context for the locations to place them, and we don't know what the level progression will be like.

Also, even if we take this bit of info at face value, that doesn't have to mean anything for all the other times we battle him.

And if you want to get really technical, we don't even have that much context for this battle. Maybe we battle a bunch of grunts before that, or his second Pokémon is a powerhouse.

>>27714950
I never mentioned DP or RBY in that post?

>>27715261
And i never said you said that.
I said that it's the logic you're using.

>>27713378
Yes but at least some of those mons had good or at least decent BST. Ariados is fucking garbage when it comes to battling.

>>27714991
It was worse then because Giovanni has basically 1 Pokemon and Cyrus is fought before THE LAST GYM.

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>>27714439
GSC/HGSS ended at Red, though. But in his case simply looking at the levels is misleading, since he's a single trainer with >lv70 Pokemon, not a gauntlet of five trainers with >lv50 ones like usual.

>>27715052
together with Fairy Chikorita, Dark Cyndaquil and Fighting Totodile
It's still hurts

>>27715339
Guzma has Solgaleo, so what?

>>27713236
Dekagusu. Or Gumshoos.
Study your Moonrunes, anon.

If we're going off levels XY must be great as you first fight the E4 in the 60s

oh wait

>>27715331
No it isn't. You're ignoring the fact the games have definitely been made easier the last gen, and it seems like they're continuing that with SM. Not even Lysandre and ORAS Archie and Maxie started with just 2 mons - that's not a good sign.

>>27715395
Red is harder though, with the E4 you can just buy a bunch of hyper/max heals and revives to use in-between fights.

>>27714950
The final boss of red blue yellow is Blue/green/assface

He has 6 pokemon not 3

>>27715401
>geomancy meganium

MUH DIK

>>27715485
And with Red you can just buy a bunch of X Defends/X Sp.Defs along with a couple Full Restores.

>>27715477
Lysandre? You mean the guy that you start fighting AT THE END OF THE GAME?

>>27714353
>leer

>>27715530
At least his mons are all in the 80s and he has a full team.

>>27715437
>Dekagusu
>not Dekagesu

You should study more, anon

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>>27715530
>using items in the middle of a battle

>>27715421
>one bulky pokemon that can learn earth power/earthquake
Wow it's fucking nothing.

>>27715598
Yes, that's what makes it different from the usual league challenge. I wouldn't say there's much difference in the difficulty department, though.

>>27715639
How else am I gonna win with sub-lv40 shitmons

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>>27713076

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Why cant games past B2W2 use the pokemon world tournament teams for each gym?

6 pokemon, dont even have to make them fully evolved depending on each team. Look at this shit. Wouldn't oras be 10x better if u had 6 pkmn each gym with these PWT parties from b2w2?

>>27715658
>literally any Pokemon
Look i made your example for Johto.

>>27715669
Grinding/Strategy.
But you will probably like SM, seems to be easy af, even easier than ORAS.
Seems like you prefer easy games.

>>27715702
Why cant B2W2 use the pokemon world tournament teams for each gym?

>>27713117
Let's not forget the exp yield is the same as BW so it'll be harder to be overlevelled.

>>27715702
>Physical ampharos
>thinking this is acceptable and desirable

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>>27715747
>grinding
this is Pokemon we're talking about, anon.

>>27715821
I prefer not to get slaughtered by mega ampharos at the third gym

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>>27715702
>Ampharos can learn Bulldoze

>>27715823
What that picture suppose to be? The team you beat the elite four?
That's waht I said, just go play easier games
you will like SM
Send an e-mail saying thanks to masuda for that Exp. Share of gen 6

>>27715821
>t. Smogon

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>>27715702
>swagger

>>27715747
Well at least it's not as easy as GSC.

>>27715702
>wattson main pokemon isn't Magnezone
it's like the producers never played RS

>>27715386
It motherfucking may as well be with only 3 months to go!

>>27715916
>easier games
I already played gen 1.

>>27715975
if that's true, why the need of X Defends/X Sp.Defs along with a couple Full Restores?

>>27716041
Because that's the easiest, most sure-fire way to beat him if that's what you want.

>>27713076
That pic is wrong, you dumb motherfucker. The building in the map is massive, and there's water right in front of it

>>27716041
>everyone responding to me is the same person
If i was that anon, i'd say "so i don't even need to switch Pokemon".

>>27715995
really? With all that grinding, only one use per TM, only able to carry 20 items?
You either hate it or used the missingno. glitch

>>27716041
>Because that's the easiest
there you go. You want games to be easier.
You will love SM.
>>27716094
here's your (You)

>>27716114
>not knowing about the inconsistencies in Gen I's mechanics that make things easy to exploit
you don't even need to grind

>>27715538
I need to rant about this

Lysandre had all of his fights at the end of the game because they wanted to keep him being leader of Flare a secret...

Except everything screams that he is from the beginning of the game.

Like holy shit why all you needed to do was take a look at his hair and make the connection.

It would have been so much better if Diantha was the evil team leader instead. Lysandre looks like he could be Alder's cousin anyway so why didn't they just make him the champion instead that way people would actually be surprised?

>>27716147
like the missingno.? Yeah, I know that.

>>27716114
This. Gen 1 is still the hardest due to all that, plus various glitches that make the game work not as it's supposed to, and catching them all, as with gens 2 and 3, required having people willing to be in the same room as you.

>>27716084
>>27716140
sorry, it was this

>>27714628
...and BW, and DPPt, and RSE, and GSC, and RBY.
Literally every fucking game is easy as all piss. Grinding RPGs literally never have been hard and never will be hard.

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>>27716181
No, really.

>start the game with Bulbasaur
>Exploit leech seed
>Catch Nidoran
>Sweep Brock with your invincible Bulbasaur
>Evolve Nidorino into Nidoking at Mt. Moon
>Sweep Misty with your Nidoking and Ivysaur
>Trudge on

From there it's literally just
>Acquire Abra or Meowth
>Sweep with your broken psychic type and crit-happy Persian

There are a million different ways to do this too, and to top it all off everything in the game is fucking optional anyway if you just want to get to the hall of fame. Just walk through walls there.

>>27716287
you mean In this board, right?

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>>27713076
>two Pokémon
>one is Ariados

Please let there be a challenge mode.

>>27716310
It's easy either way :^)

>>27715530
>>27715485

I beat Red with pokemon barely stronger than high 50s-60s last time I played through HG/SS. I just couldn't be assed to try and grind out in Mt. Silver against it's weak ass Pokemon.

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>>27716391
>disliking Ariados
>has a shitty reaction image
Faggot.

>>27713190

Hala has 3

Hau has 3

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>>27715702
>Wouldn't oras be 10x better if u had 6 pkmn each gym with these PWT parties from b2w2?

How the hell would kids who's 1st Pokemon game is OR/AS even stand a chance even if they were appropriately levelled? The average player had enough difficulty with Whitney and she had two Pokemon.

Provided a gym leader has a good enough Pokemon they can sweep casual players with just that one alone.

>>27716114
You could consider all of those examples of fake difficulty. Which doesn't have to be a bad thing necessarily, but in that regard, that's no different from doing a Nuzlocke today.

>>27716183
Except glitches aren't intended gameplay, so they don't really count.

>>27716301
So? Almost any game you can do that.
Just select the right starter and uses only the stronger/broken pokemon.
You can select the strongest pokemon here: smogon.com

>>27716485
Ariados is weak as hell, it's not an issue with the design. Farfetch'd is my favorite Pokémon but if the villainous leader had a Farfetch'd I'd feel exactly the same way as I do now.

>>27713190

Hau's battle in the beginning of the game has 3 Pokemon

Hala as the first Kahuna has 3

Number of Pokemon doesn't mean shit

It's the Pokemon themselves

You also forgot that the exp system scaling works like Black and White, where the system is rigged to make it harder for you to over level yourself

>>27716537
Hau had two in the e3 demo

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>>27716494
>>27716494
>How the hell would kids who's 1st Pokemon game is OR/AS even stand a chance even if they were appropriately levelled?

I see what you mean, but gold/silver between azalea and goldenrod, there is absolutely no way to grind appropriately. The reason most noobs died anyways is cause "muh fire types." If you were able to get over croconaw's design or were good with reflect bayleef with synthesis, 3rd gym was legitimately easy if your pkmn were same level.

Anyways, im not saying these pokemon world tourney teams should be lvl 50 or same evos, just scale it down to above average the levels of trainers before that gym.

Besides, most people didn't understand the mechanics yet for gen 2 since gen 1 was a failure mechanics wise, so of course people struggled.

>>27716494
Don't bother with him, he didn't even bother responding to my post >>27715761

>>27716537
>You also forgot that the exp system scaling works like Black and White
Unfamiliar with this mechanic, can you explain?

>>27713190

The 4th Gym leader in Black and White only had 3 Pokemon

And they were level 26

Same exact situation in Black2White2

Challenge mode was literally level 30

You guys are dillusioning yourselves over what level a person should be

The levels aren't what makes them hard

Ghetsis wasn't hard, it was be fact that the Pokemon he used was bullshit

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>Game Freak will never use Emerald/Platinum as a base for NPC teams

>>27716495
Nuzlocke is optional

>>27716616
>Why cant B2W2 use the pokemon world tournament teams for each gym?

>>27715702
>Why cant games past B2W2 use the pokemon world tournament teams for each gym?

what were you asking, it looks like you legitimately repeated his first question.

>>27716630
>Surge only had a single Raichu in Yellow
Holy shit I forgot about this

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>>27716630
Wait fuck, I keep forgetting to fix Giovanni's team since they nerfed him in FRLG.

Fixed.

>>27716633
That's a crucial difference, definitely. But my point is that it has the same purpose as the limited-use TMs, limited storage, grinding, etc. of RBY. It's there to create a challenge when the core mechanics of the game don't provide one.

>>27716630
>yellow giovanni with out of place persian

wew did it know dig?

>>27716622

Not him but in most Pokemon games the amount of EXP your Pokemon gets only depends on the level of the opponents Pokemon and their level. e.g. if an opponents level 10 Pokemon grants 100 EXP your Pokemon will get 100 EXP whether its level 1 or level 99.

B/W's changed the EXP formula to include your Pokemons level as well. So if you were higher levelled than the opponent the amount of EXP they provide actually gets lower and lower. So if a level 10 enemy normally provides 100 EXP but your Pokemon is level 11 or higher you'll get less than 100 EXP.

>>27716790
The game provided one.
Those things I listed aren't optional.

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>>27713076
>No Alolan Ariados

>>27716630

>Challenge Elesa added a joltik

For what purpose

>>27716630
Thank god they will never use Emerald as a base. Platinum is good but
>adding a Swablu is challenge
>removing a 670 beast for fucking Zangoose and SPINDA
Awful.
BW2 Challenge Mode was a good idea on paper and the improved AI is nice, but outside Skyla, Drayden and the E4 the "additions" are pathetic.

>>27716664
It doesn't seem that hard of a question?

If BW2 could add those teams for each gym they should have done exactly that.

>sudden japan level
it's MGR all over again

>>27717021
Fuck off ORAS shill.

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>>27717055

Well they did use the same pokemon for the gyms, just not all the pokemon as the pkmn world tournament.

maybe they didn't know how it might effect gameplay to have 6 pkmn per gym on a challenge mode. They should've probably done this to see how it might work back in b2w2.

>>27717021
>Emerald
At least Tate & Liza were improved in Emerald.
The first time the game actually challenged me.

>>27713972
Why the hell would you think the "plot" starts that late? Do you really believe that Guzma won't come in until that point and then the game is basically over?

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>>27716516
To be honest, I only liked it for its design.
And it's big ass

>>27717100
>don't praise ORAS at all
>if i shit on the flaws of a game he likes i get called ORAS shill
How fucking pathetic can you be?

>>27716114
lol what.

I know Gen 1 like the back of my hand, I've played it countless times, almost always challenge runs like monotypes or Nuzlocke's or no evolution.
What grinding, I haven't had to grind in Gen 1 for years, the NPC's are braindead, the movesets are hilariously pathetic, it's effortless to beat it if you have the slightest idea what you're doing.

You're delusional, I wouldn't call any Pokémon game hard, but Gen 1 being being even close to the most difficult is a bad joke at best.

You autistic fucks make pokemon players look worse than we already are.

>>27715820
Please don't be yanking my chain. source?

>>27713286
Both BW and HGSS end at around Level 53

>>27718076
I remember that post, someone was talking about on Smogon around the E3 reveals.

>>27715820
>same as BW
So there'll be easy to find bag of EXP enemies that make your team overlevelled with incredible ease?

>>27716630
Never played BW2.
What is that challenge?
Doesn't look like a rematch.

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>>27716114

You just don't realise how easy Gen 1 was. If anything could learn Surf and Strength you've immediately got a better moveset than pretty much any of the in-game enemies and those HMs are infinite use.

Even the Elite Four's Pokemon's movesets are filled with horridly weak moves even for Red/Blue.

>>27718829
BW2 had three difficulty modes. There was an easy mode that lowered everyone's levels, and a challenge more that raised their levels and gave more Pokémon to some of the trainers.

The only problem with it is you can only unlock it if you beat the game, so you need a friend with Black 2 or a cheat device to do a full playthrough of it.

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>>27718900
>two shitmons and hitmoncham basically has one actually good attacking move
Wew, Bruno was a mistake.

>>27718900
and you don't realize what is to have gen I back in the pokemania era
>no one knew where to find specific pokemon
>no one where to find tms
>spend tms on a pokemon that will eventually learn that move
>no one knew the pokemon learnsets
>we didn't have serebii
>we didn't have bulbapedo
>we didn't have /vp/
>there was only one way to find is the pokemon was good or bad: by training it
>we have to discover things by ourselves

if you play gen 1 now, does not count, you already have the pokemon experience

>>27717658
>I haven't had to grind in Gen 1 for years
good. Now try to remember the first time you played IF you started with gen 1
of course it is easy now, like you said, you played countless times
>>27718975
do you really think that anyone knew how physical/special moves worked back then?
players who never had experience with pokemon before?
like 90% of the hitmonchans of that have had thunder/fire/ice punch

>>27716630
Emerald and Platinum definitely had the best gym leader teams, but the number of good pokemon isn't always an indication of how hard the gym is. Whitney, Brawly, HGSS Bugsy, and Grant are all pretty rough if you're not overleveled.

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>>27713076
>VILLAIN TEAM BOSS USING AN ARIADOS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>27721097
>it's focus sash/sticky web

>>27716630
"""""""""""""""""""challenge""""""""""""""""""" mode

>literally helping you to grind against the opponent while fighting him
>challenge mode

>>27720488
>Hitmonchan, the punching pokemon, had shittier elemental punches than Alakazam, the mind pokemon

>>27721262
>alakazam having elemental punches in gen 1

>>27721381
dude it's been 20 years give me a break

>>27721381
Was still true in gens 2 and 3.

>>27721412
:^)

>>27721412
basically, this is what I'm saying
>almost no one remember things from 20 years ago
>almost no one remembers what was to play pokemon Red/Blue for the first time