I just know what the new pseudo is already god damnit. Better

>he doesn't want another based dragon

>>27673420
>it's an Electric/Fire with Levitate

>>27673445
>it's literally rotom-heat

>>27673433
>5/7 are dragon type
>2 are flying/dragon
>6/7 are weak to fairy

We need some goddamn variety.

>>27673420
It's obviously Drampa.

Does Metagross really count? It always seemed like an outlier, created solely for the purpose of being Steven's ace.

You also couldn't catch Beldum in the wild in its debut generation, it was a gift from Steven.

>>27673564
Pseudo status is determined by base stat total. It counts.

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>implying its not already exeggutor

>>27673420
*want to know
God damn fucking typos.

>>27673420
>I wish the next dragon is not a dragon

What?

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Is slaking a pseudo? It has a high bat than 600 and evolves from a common mon

>>27673477
We don't you fucking idiot, the whole point of pseudos is that they are strong, and the dragon type was supposed to be the strongest type (then they decided to fuck them up a bit and created the fairy type). They didn't make 5 dragon pseudos because they are lazy, but because dragon types are supposed to be stronger than other types

I want a Fairy pseudo

>>27673564
The same could be said about Garchomp and Cynthia or Lance and Dragonite though.

#SalanditForPseudo2016 #MakePseudosGreatAgain

I want something with fur or hell anything that's not remotely reptilian like metagross.

>>27673648
Tyranitar and Metagross aren't dragon type, being a dragon isn't a pseudo requirement
>>27673655
>dragon is supposed to be the strongest
Sorry pal, fairy kinda throws that idea out the window.

>>27673420
Where's Volcarona?

>>27673654
I think evolving at level 720 is also a requirement

>>27673654
Its BST is higher than 600, not exactly 600 like literally every other psuedo.

>>27673564
>>27673648
>>27673739
Pseduo-legendaries are three-stage mons whose final form has exactly 600 BST. That's it.

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>>27673742
Oh ok

>>27673765
So what's that make it a super-pseudo?

>>27673785
Volcarona has 600 BST and evolves. Fuck your head canon bullshit, it's in

>>27673688
Underage detected.

You DO realize that fairy exists BECAUSE dragon was OP?
That the only reason your inane dismissal is viewed as valid to you is because dragon was so strong that it needed a new type to deal with it?

And tyranitar is a "dragon". While certainly not dragon type, it's Godzilla based and that's dragon based.
Literally is the only pseudo that isn't dragon type (yet it IS a dragon) aside from Gen3... Which had 2 pseudos AND THE OTHER WAS A DRAGON.

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>>27673820
it's not though

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>>27673820
Volcarona is neither three-stage nor 600 BST. Also, the term "pseudo-legendary" is entirely fanmade anyways; the definition I gave is the simplest one which captures the Pokémon that (more or less) everybody agrees are pseudo without capturing anything else.

>>27673854
Yes it is!

Slaking should count too, as should Kingdra, Haxorus and Aggron

>>27673820
Um volcarona has 550 bst....

>>27673870
Neither of those have 600 BST.
Sorry, no one wants your ugly shitmons to be pseudos.

>>27673824
Look, unless you wanna show me some kinda internal design document that explicitly states every pseudo must be a dragon type or dragon-esque, then they is nothing that states that is a rule.
Nothing says GF has to make the new pseudo a dragon, and considering how they've been bucking the trend so much this gen the odds are the new one won't be dragon type.

Why do people care about base stats when the final stats can be so wildly different?

>>27673870
None of these have a bst of 600
Neither does Volcorona you fucking faggot

>>27673870
Grow up

>>27673420
Fairy/Water
Levitate

HP 129
Atk 77
Def 79
SpA 124
SpD 92
Spe 99

It's a bubble-based creature. It gets Recover and Refresh and Heal Bell.

For Fairy moves, it gets Dazzling Gleam but not Moonblast.

For Water moves, it gets Bubble Beam and Water Pulse and can be taught Surf.

For coverage, it can get Ice Beam and Psychic and Air Slash.

It gets Nasty Plot.

>>27673962
Forgot to mention, doesn't get Scald.

>>27673668
You could catch Dratini in RBY.
You could also catch Gible in DPP.

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Is Gengar a Psuedo?

If not, it should be. It meets the criteria

>>27673810
Slaking is it's own thing; Regigigas is quite similar to it but a legendary, the most similar non-legendary is Archeops, which is different enough that you can't really make a category for them.
>>27673870
>Aggron
Ok, so let's expand the definition to include 3-stage mons with a BST of 530. Oh hey, now Chesnaught is a pseudo! And Blaziken! And Blastoise! And Walrein!

>>27673989
Normal Gengar has 500 BST, only the mega has 600.

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>>27673989
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>27674012
So it's a Psuedo then?

>>27673989
That's its mega, son. Base Gengar has 500.

>>27673824
Godzilla is not dragon based you scrublord. It's literally a fucking dinosaur with nuke radiation (The director went with T-Rex + Iguana). Hell in one movie it came from fucking GodzillaSAURUS. Your argument sounds like some medieval fuck thinking dinosaur bones were dragons. I wasn't going to say anything but like, do some fuckin' research my man. And while the DESIGN is based on Godzilla nothing else about it is.

You calling people underage and you don't even fucking know shit about old movies. Come at me son.

>>27674026
No? Why would you compare the Mega for Gengar to the base forms for Tyranitar/Metagross/Salamence/Garchomp?

>>27674079
Because he's thicker than pig shit.

>>27673654
Slaking isn't because it has that awful ability which makes him borderline useless/shit.

The new pseudo should be one of the following
>Pure Fairy
>Fairy/Dragon
>Steel/Poison
>Electric/Fire
>Normal/Ghost

>>27674195
Fighting/Fairy or Fighting/Dragon

>>27674195
>normal/ghost with 600 BST
Too overpowered. I'm all for a Poltergeist normal/ghost, but its base stats must be mediocre to compensate for the excellent typing.

>>27674195
>Electric/Fire
That's the only non-Fairy combo we lack, isn't it?

>>27673420
inb4 Poison/Fire-type newt

Sudowoodo a pseudo?
All signs point to yes

Caterpie is a psuedo

>>27673824
Is this bait? You're fucking retarded

>>27674325
>>27674337
Neither fit all criteria.

>>27674246
>Normal/Ghost
>Excellent

Psssh. Do I even need to explain why it isn't?

Goalrilla will be the pseudo.

>>27674390
yes

>>27674390
>Only weakness is dark

>>27674195
>>Normal/Ghost
>600 BST
>Levitate as an ability
>Learns Boomburst and obviously gets Shadow Ball for STAB
FUND IT.

>>27674413
don't forget 3 immunities

>>27674195
>Fairy/Dragon
Yes please.

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>>27674195
>Not Steel/Water or Steel/Dragon
Dropped.

>>27674195
600 BST Pure Electric with Levitate

Better not be a fucking dragon?

Dude that's the point of pseudo legendary. They are dragons. Megacross screws up the trend because gen 3 had to be a special snow flake and have 2.

That being said, i think i think that bug type wimppod will be the psuedo legendary this time.

>>27674521
>Pure Electric with Levitate
Yeah because that's so fucking good on Eelektross, right? Electric/Poison with Levitate is much better.

>>27674397
>3 immunities, but only two shitty resistances (Bug and Poison)
>STAB damage is often resisted, and rarely Super Effective

>>27674532
There's was only 1 dragon until gen 3

>>27674533
>515 total
>50 speed
Eelektross have awful stats man

>>27674550
>only shitty ass rock and steel types resist normal
>only dark resist ghost

>>27674559
> I'd rather have 3 mediocre resistances, 1 immunity, and no weaknesses than 8 resistances, 1 immunity, and 1 weakness that is super rare as coverage and two STABs
Are you retarded?

>>27674600
>steel
>shitty
It's the best defensive type alongside fairy. Also counters fairy.

>>27674552
Kingdra

>>27674628
I only meant rock as shitty.

>>27674629
Not a pseudo.

>new pseudo turns out to be a pure Normal type
How mad would you be?

>>27674429
Drifblim, Spiritomb, Mismagius, Golurk, and Chandelure have 3 immunities and decent stats but none of them are phenomenal in battle.

>>27674693
not at all

>>27674693
>new pseudo turns out to be the official, non-glitchy third stage evo of Porygon

>>27674693
An actual likely to be good normal type?
Sounds cool.

>>27674693
Depends on what its like.

I like psuedo's because their designs are cool and theyre powerful. The typing doesnt matter that much. I'd say there's a vague tendency, as I do like Dragons, but I don't mind that much.

The new psuedo could be whatever damn type it wants, so long as the design is good.

>>27674693
Normal is dangerously underrated. As good as dragon on the neutral offence spam, pretty nice defensively with one whole weakness so some good natural bulk would have it be hard to take down effectively. Throw scrappy on it or something if you really want to go overboard.

>>27674600
Steel is used on most teams though for its defensive properties. Switching to any Steel type would wall a Normal/Ghost without Shadow Tag.

>>27674532
>Dude that's the point of pseudo legendary.
Actually we don't know why Gamefreak makes the pseudos, they've never addressed it.

>>27674809
Ghost is neutral on steel.

>>27674883
They're always used by the champions at one point or another
Yes even Tyranitar since Blue used it

>>27674883
It's for Pokemon trainers who like a challenge to raise their pokemon!

>>27674919
The most challenging non-legendary to train should be Ninjask

>>27674906
That's just your assumption, not word of god.

>>27674142
At least it's a good retaliate Pokémon.

>>27674809
>252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 130-153 (36.9 - 43.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

And that's literally one of the best steel types in the game against a neutral natured ghost type.

>>27675062
Okay now calculate how fucking hard a Gengar would die to a Ferrothorn's gyro ball you fuck.

>>27673894
>Shitting on Kingdra
are you serious son?

>>27674419
How about we make the ability Justified?

>>27675248
Why would I need to do that when the Psuedo Normal/Ghost would have entirely different stats?

Gengar has a BST of 500 and it's pretty min/maxed into special attack and speed.
The psuedo could have "just enough" tier speed and be bulky as fuck like Garchomp.
Like
0 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (150 BP) vs. 240 HP / 176+ Def Garchomp: 123-145 (29.4 - 34.7%) -- 11.6% chance to 3HKO

>>27675062
>3HKO
Wew

>>27674809
Give it fire punch or flamethrower

>>27673898
He kinda got off track but I'm pretty sure the point he was arguing was that the psuedos are mostly dragons for a reason. Dragons were supposed to be the best until gen 6 came around and they decided to make the types more balanced all around. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was another dragon because it would make sense. Pretty sure it'll be a fairy though.

>>27673962
I'm curious, what made you give it those exact stats?

>>27675333
Because the pseudo might have lower spec atk than Gengar too numb nuts. Or might be a physical attacker. Quit fucking cherrypicking.

>>27675406
It could also easily have more special attack than Gengar. Also that's not cherrypicking, but good attempt at learning your fallicies.

The entire point was that "Switching to any Steel type would wall a Normal/Ghost without Shadow Tag." is absolutely wrong since it entirely depends on the stats.

>>27674693
Normal/Fairy for fun

>>27675062
I don't know much about competitive but are 3HKOs even worth talking about? aren't pokemon matches usually over pretty fast?

A Poltergeist Normal/Ghost Pokémon with 300 BST and a Parental Bond-like ability which double his BST
Give him multi-strikes moves like Comet Punch, Fury Swipes, Fury Attack and Arm Thrust

Its nice to know that no matter how much people shit on Ice, they can still own these niggas.

3 of them have 4X damage to ice.

>swinub used powder snow

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>>27674732
Game freak can just take all of my money at that point

>>27675915
What I wouldn't give for a 600 BST Porygon3
What would its stats spread look like?

On a normal/ghost type psuedo:
I'd love to see it, but it's only problem is that it has sableye syndrome – not a lot of weaknesses, but not a lot of resistances either.
I'd rather see a physical ghost/fighting type with a buffed shadow claw

>>27675979
SpAtk focused with Protean or mixed wall with an ability that changes the user's type based on the type of the foe's move?
Both would be great

>>27676066
A bulky special attacker with protean and 600 bst would be godly. And it even gets trick to mess with the blobs

>>27675760
Ice is shit defensively, not offensively. Ice is great as a coverage move, but it's a bad type to actually have.

>>27674891
Dang I forgot about that.

>>27675539
3HKOs are definitely relevant on mons without reliable instant recovery. Ferrothorn switches into shadow ball, takes ~40%. If you outspeed and it can't OHKO or cripple you, you can just attack two more times to eliminate it. More likely, you switch into something that forces it out. Even with leftovers, Ferrothorn will have been damaged enough that it won't be able to switch into another shadow ball later in the match.

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>>27674712
You think that might be because its compensated in stats like the original anon suggested?

>>27676406
>Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!

>>27676483
>If it can't OHKO you
>more likely you switch

>>27674532
>That being said, i think i think that bug type wimppod will be the psuedo legendary this time.
Pseudos are never revealed before the games are released and are generally kept hidden.

>>27676234
They'd find a way to fuck it up by giving it low speed, just like Z.

>>27674419
HA: Wonder guard

>>27678010
Sea bunny inspired horseshoe crab right here

>Slaking now gets an ability that has a 30% chance to make it use rest every turn

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Isn't gengar technically a pseudo since his mega has a base stat of 600 and it's 3 stages(mega is more of a form anyway)

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Poison/Steel pseudo with Levitate.

Considered a roaming ecological disaster by the Alolan people, but is thankfully extremely rare.

>>27680695
>another kaiju
GIVE ME THIS NOW