What evidence supports this "leak''?

>>27623952
The only evidence is the names being believable and the fact that every Pokemon that has been revealed, implied. or "leaked" so far is present.

It's more likely fake, since who ever made it failed at romanizing the name of that last Pokemon. It should be Marshadow, not Malshadow.

I still saved it for the next Pokemon reveal, just in case

>>27623992
How old is this leak?

>>27623952
>Bonéné
>Beau néné
Néné is the french's children word for breast and beau mean beautiful so I don't want to believe this list

>>27624041
A day or two old. Should be disproven or proven somewhat when CoroCoro comes out.

Wouldn't mind this list being real at all. However i'm calling fake because anyone who was here during Gen 6 reveal season remembers "Mr. XY" who pulled this same bullshit by leaking a list of unique names months in advance and it was proveb to be bullshit. Nice thing about this though is that we'll know friday whether or not this leak is fake or not.

>>27624052

There's also Tapu Pipi and pipi means both pee and dick in several languages.

>>27623992
names being "believable" isn't evidence. neither is the fact they are using information from other leaks because anyone can do that.

>>27623952
Why can't you people use the catalogue or, you know, GOOGLE?

Anyway, a lot of the names are very believable and can be broken down into words that make sense.

The previous Chinese leaks were more or less confirmed with the last official trailer, and the line up with this list.

Now as for the Malshadow vs. Marshadow thing, I think that actually lends MORE credence to these being legitimate.

Think about it: if someone was trying to make a believable fake and took this much time to research names that make sense and are coherent, surely they'd spell Marshadow correctly, but because (depending on the word), "r" can be an "r" or an "l" when translating between English and Japanese, it's entirely possible that this is why the name change happened. This is the only source that claims the name is Malshadow and, if I remember correctly, the trademarks were Japanese. That makes the most sense to me.

>>27624098
It means Ox or Bull or something like that in Hawaiian, apparently, so your immature argument is wrong.

>>27624105
You must be the retard who doesn't know the definition of evidence. Well, either way, it IS evidence, albeit circumstantial evidence. But believe whatever you want. We should know within the next few days if it's legit or not.

>>27624052

I think the leaker was trying to use 'nene' which is Hawaiian for goose, but tried to pull a Flabébé and added the accents.

Why do people think there would be 4 forms for the starters based on the island they evovle on? That would mean 90% of people wouldn't get half of them and most would just be the third island's

Is it just not wanting to deal with what we know we're getting?

>>27624105
Evidence was the wrong word to use. I just think the names are belivable, with the exception of Malshadow and the ones that anons have been pointing out, like Bounene and Tapu Pipi.

>>27624116
evidence is proof. the names being "believable" isn't proof and it's totally subjective. the presence of other pokemon from leaks isn't proof either because hey guess what those pokemon aren't confirmed to actually exist. so no there's no evidence. try again.

so go play the
>you disagree so you must be a retard
card somewhere else

>>27624116
>It means Ox or Bull or something like that in Hawaiian, apparently, so your immature argument is wrong.

How is it wrong? You realize this is the same company that changed Emonga's name to Emolga because mong is a slur in 1 country?

It's actually confirmed fake with lurantis pokedex number.she's in the 2nd island

>>27624133
>implying breeding and trading aren't things

>>27624052
>>27624098
Also Delfin is literally letter-for-letter the word for Dolphin in several languages.
With this, Tapu Pipi and Bonéné it's obvious the leaker is just trying to have a giggle

>>27624116
>using meta reverse psychology on own self just so the leak isn't disproven
People want this to be real so bad.

>>27623992
>>27624116
Its not hard at all to make up a bunch of believable names and it's been done multiple times for leaks including twice for SM already

>>27623992
Mal is evil in spanish,trough.

>>27624116

You new here? There has always been leaked name lists which also sounded believable and like someone had out effort into them.

>>27623992
Malshadow sounds so much better, though. Not only that, but if it turns out to be Dark type or just villainous in general, the "-mal" part would make so much sense. (mal = bad, evil, negative) And then there's the whole r/l thing in the Japanese language, too, so I don't know. Either is okay by me.

>>27624151
>evidence is proof

Only sometimes, actually. Way to be extra stubborn about this, though.

>>27624059
That alone should disprove this. At least in my opinion.

I can see if this leak was atleast a few old. But a day or two? Nah, could be a mix if officially released, confirmed, and speculated, and straight up fake mons.

>>27624162
I'm not implying anything like that, but over the course of a standard game no one is gonna grind or delay a third evo for the first and last islands

Why make two forms people would only bother with post game for the pokemon made for playing through the story?

>>27624192
if you didn't run in with your patronizing attitude calling retard i wouldn't need to be stubborn.

if the police are presenting a case, they need evidence, they need proof. their proof cannot be based on hearsay, things that don't exist yet but might be real and a gut feeling that something is "believable". so the evidence for this leak doesn't exist. there is none. so fuck off kindly retard

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>>27623952
I need Corocoro to at least mention 3 pokemon from this leak that has not been mentioned before in any media.

>>27624184
>>27624187
Marshadow is the name that was trademarked.

>>27624133
I think a majority of those who want this to be real, are the same ones who don't want Robinhoot, LuchaLitten, and Poppmaid to be most likely definitive starter final stages. Basically, it's they're second chance to get a quadruped Litten evo.

>>27624238
Even if Litten gets multiple final evos, they're all probably going to at least share the same body type.

>>27624151
This has nothing to do with "you disagree so you must be a retard", but there was a guy previously spouting the same bullshit you are now, so I'm assuming you're him.

Anyway, I think you need a dictionary, because "evidence" and "proof" don't mean what you think they mean. This is circumstantial evidence - proof of a possibility. But proof of something doesn't mean it proves everything, and it can still be incorrect in the long run.

>>27624157
I'm not sure what you're arguing about, because those two things are unrelated. The point is that Pipi means something in Hawaiian and Alola is based on Hawaii, so we can confirm that it doesn't mean "pee" or "dick" or anything else so immature.

>>27624174
>>27624185
Not new at all, but those previous lists were complete bullshit. You say the names were believable but they they really weren't. These are designed much more like official Pokemon names and pretty well thought-out, to even include references and foreign words that make sense. Could a faker do this? Sure. But my point is that if they then spelt "Marshadow" wrong, all that work would be for nothing, so what kind of idiot takes the time to make up all this fairly legitimate-sounding stuff only to then ruin it by incorrectly writing the name of a Pokemon we already know the real name of?

Besides, I love how people are saying "THERE IS NO WAY IT CAN BE MALSHADOW" when the trademark is Japanese (I just double-checked) and so the "r" could become an "l" in English with ease.

>>27624202
I don't have an answer for you but there have always been Pokemon you can't obtain through playing the game at a normal pace throughout the story, and we don't even know how this game will be paced yet. For all we know, it could become quite non-linear after the first island. I think it's far too early to say that this would be a mistake with certainty, because we don't know enough about the games.

>>27624229
The trademark is Japanese though.

>>27624222

>Corocoro only reveals Snowman and Rugby Monkey

>>27624202
>>27624272
Plus I should add that it appears that the split evolutions will be identical sans typing, so there's that - you'll still see the evolutions but just with different typing depending on where you evolved it.

>>27624238
Yeah the idea of having basically 12 starters final evos to choose from is so appealing people don't stop to think how dumb it sounds

Gamefreak aren't going to suddenly go from making starters the simplest evos to the most complicated, rotom is at least made around it's form gimmick

>>27624272
And the romanized version of the trademark is Marshadow. This is widely known.

>>27624283
How is a grass/ground owl or a ghost wrestler supposed to be identical sans typing?

Man, there are no fossils-Pokemons in that list, that's fake.

>>27624187
>>27624272
>And then there's the whole r/l thing in the Japanese language
>so the "r" could become an "l" in English with ease.
That doesn't apply here you fucking mongs. Learn how to moon before talking shit.
マーシャドー - Literally Māshadō.
The マー (mā) is a long, drawn-out ma sound.
It could be Mallshadow, Maulshadow but never Malshadow.

Malshadow would be マルシャドー, which is not what was trademarked.

Fucking retards.

>>27624287
I'm 99% certain these multiple start evos are bunk.

That 1% is still there though, mostly because they've made so many changes I'd never expected to see in Sun/Moon already

>>27624272
I don't buy this "other numerous fakes weren't the same because reasons" and "a typo means it must be real"

This is just a list that crams in every dumb theory about evos and has some names anyone bored enough could come up with, requiring some amount of effort does not mean it's worth anything

>>27624184
>>27624187
>it's an "anon thinks he's a cunning linguist because he knows one word in Spanish and wrongly believes all L's are R's in Japanese and vice-versa" episode

>>27624312
The ghost wrestler is the Undertaker.

Really, what you need to question here is a siren being water/fighting.

>>27624272

>The point is that Pipi means something in Hawaiian and Alola is based on Hawaii, so we can confirm that it doesn't mean "pee" or "dick" or anything else so immature.

So if fuck meant cat in Hawaiian, they would allow it then?

>Leak

So we're calling just random text posted on 4chan, not even any images or anything included, a "leak". The definition for this now is ridiculous.

>>27624293
I didn't know that. Do you have a source to back up your widely-known claim?

>>27624312
Well, they have the same names and same dex numbers, so what I mean is they'd look the same - they wouldn't have unique designs. Or maybe the designs would only be slightly different.

>>27624347
I wasn't looking at the trademarked name when I wrote that, but yes, you're TECHNICALLY correct... except if it is romanised as Marshadow as opposed to Maashadow, there's still no reason it can't become Malshadow. It's, at the very least, a possibility.

>>27624361
Okay, I see your point, but you never specified which languages, and I'm still not sure you were completely serious about your original post. But if it's not one of the languages Nintendo localises the games in, then it won't matter. If it is, that's another story.

>>27624347
Also, the r/l thing WOULD apply if it was マルシャドー, it could be Marushadow, Malushadow... But that isn't what was trademarked.

>>27624287
It also would'nt work for next Gen games. That would mean GF would have to go out of their way to constantly create places for these starters to evolve each game moving forward when they could create less work kn themselves and just have on definitive evolution line.

>>27624372
It didn't originate on 4chan, fucktard.

>>27624372
Yeah, people are retarded about leaks now. They think that because there's three or so legit leaks now, it means that every leak is legit. I can't wait for them to try and shoehorn this shit into /lxg/ the next time it props up.

Doesn't the existence of so many fan dexes show that coming up with names is easy?

>>27624392
It did though, fucktard. It was posted here before Hiro reposted it.

>>27624388
That's... exactly what that anon said, and you just reworded it. Congratulations.

Maybe the multi-forms for the starters aren't based on island...but maybe a combination of gender and time of day.

For example, a female Sirene evolved at night gains the Fairy typing, while evolving during the day keeps it a mono water type.

A male Sirene evolved during the day gains the Fighting type, while evolved at night gains the Psychic typing.

Those three Dark/Electric pseudos, I'm sure the same thing was done for gen VI and gen V "leaks"

>>27624402
I AM >>27624347, I was just clarifying.

Please be real

>>27624405
That would be pretty cool actually. I'd be interesting to see what you'd up up with you just played naturally without trying to get specific evolutions too.

>>27624385

Pipi means pee in both Italian and Spanish, which are both localized. And both keep English pokemon names.

>>27624385
Why bother making them then if it's just a random type difference? For a believable list you seem to have to spend a lot of time defending it

>>27624415
I don't really think clarification was necessary, though...

>>27624405
Why would they make starters that complicated? Every other starter has just been a stand three stage evo because they are the default pokemon you'll use

That is ignoring a middle evo that will some how support 4 different evolution

>>27624434
Okay then.

>>27624431
Okay, fair enough then.

>>27624432
>Why bother making them then if it's just a random type difference?
Different movesets.

Also, Smogon would have a field day with it. But fuck Smogon.

>For a believable list you seem to have to spend a lot of time defending it
I'm bored. I'm not even trying to say they're real. I just want people to accept the possibility of them being real. I get sick of people, especially around here, making absolute judgements when they have no solid proof one way or the other.

>>27624170
In several languages.

But not English, which these names are.

I don't buy this list for one second by I don't understand why this is considered a valid argument against it.

Dark/Fire for the Eclipse Pokemon would make a lot of sense though too. It's unique in the reasoning that the third legendary typically is overshadowed by the box legendaries.

It can decimate both Solgaleo and Lunala with that type combination. And it resists their dual types as well.

>>27624405
Not a bad idea Anon. A+

>>27624456
You're forgetting that the Spanish and Italian versions use the English names.
They're not going to have mons named Delfin (literally dolphin), Tapu Pipi (literally piss) and Tapu Mano, which is literally "hand".

>>27624449
Theres a new "leak" every day, people should just ignore all leaks because statistically they are wrong and usually blatantly contradict each other

But twice a random leak was right so we should spend all day discussing them, /vp/ should never gamble

>>27624442
Because Pokemon alternate forms is Sun and Moon's gimmick...well, one of them at least. Why would it not make sense to add the starters in there too? They're your first Pokemon of the new region, and therefore the first to show off the gimmick.

The middle evos aren't dual typed, I imagine that stage will become the deciding point for players.

>>27624456

Spanish uses the same names as English, so the Spanish versions would literally just have Delfin as a Pokemon.

>>27624449
There's at least proof of Luchalitten & friends.

While for split evo's. Not so much. Though I'm open to the idea.

>>27624464
It would explain why Popmaid is so feminine looking, and Baracat is extremely masculine. It's based on their genders, and also depends the time of day they evolved.

>>27624116
Except "Marshadow" isn't written with an "r" in Japanese. It's written Māshadō, where a long "a" like that is transliterated to "ar" and not ever "al". This isn't a matter of r/l having no difference in Japanese because it's not written Marushadō. If it were then you might have a point, but honestly you're coming off as though you wrote this fake list and are trying vehemently to defend it.

>>27624480
A bird with different forms and variants does not mean this is suddenly the generations gimmick since so far we have gotten more forms in gen 4

Starters as I said are the default pokemon and not the place to be trying crazy new evos that no one asked for

>>27624505
Problem is, Beltigre is probably still a fucking wrestler no matter its type or gender. A female Beltigre would just be a diva instead of not being a wrestler.

At least the porn could be decent.

>>27624521
But if the typing for it is true, then Malshadow would make plenty sense as far as localizations are concerned.

>>27624472
I'm on here almost every day, so I'm fully aware of this. Some are obviously bullshit, but this isn't complete bullshit. My point is simply that it's a possibility.

>But twice a random leak was right so we should spend all day discussing them, /vp/ should never gamble
The Chinese leaks were pretty much entirely spot-on (with the exception of Ninetales whose regular form could still easily gain fairy typing - we have yet to actually have that proven incorrect).

>>27624489
Of course, but there's also a "secret" for the starters and Rockruff, so it's a possibility.

>>27624521
I can guarantee you I didn't write this fake list because I wouldn't make such a mistake.

The point I'm making is that if they romanised it, it could easily be Marshadow, as you said. Now if they translated the transliteration as opposed to the original katakana, they could end up with Malshadow. It also depends on what the combination of words are that they're using to arrive at the name Marshadow/Maashadow.

I'm not sure if there's a precedent for this kind of (admittedly not really correct) translation in Pokemon, but it is sometimes done with translations in things such as anime dubs, so it's at least possible.

>>27624480
But how would your average player know what it's evovling into? Or even know how to evolve it into the one they want?
It would be a frustrating mechanic without some type of knowledge before hand.

They evovle their starter without knowing that there are different forms. And there's maybe a form they liked better than the one they have.

>>27624460
It's a meme typing. The faker probably thinks he was really clever.

>Hehe le sun legend weak to fire, moon legend weak to dark typing

In addition to his
>hehe Nips get R/L confused so make it Malshadow lolol epic wins

Basically, the list faker is a 19 year old with acne scar ring who watched an anime once and browses 4chan.

>>27624567
m8, starter evos have always been an exercise in disappointment. Kids should be used to it by now

>>27624567
I think, if it's real, it'll just be locational. Evolve __ on __ Island and you get __.

>>27624567
And starter evos are used heavily in marketing, having 12 kinda diminishes that

>>27624576
Which why its better to have one definitive evolution line. Instead of a split.

>>27624527
Just like a Water/Fighting Sirene is still a siren somehow.
We don't know how varied the forms may be. Odds of a quadruped Litten3 are slim since that'd require another, unique model.

>>27624524
That YOU didn't ask for. Your opinion doesn't speak for the majority. Multiple ways to evolve your starter creates intrigue and different ways to run the same Pokemon, just with a different typing, movepools, stat distribution, etc.

>>27624585
But are you basing it off anything solid? That also requires the equivalent of a charizard by Misty for the first islands versions, no one is gonna bother with that

>>27624587
>starter evos are used heavily in marketing
Mainly through the anime, yes.
For marketing, they can just use whatever starter evolutions appear the most in the anime, which are most likely the ones from the leaked reference sheet.

>>27624597
Not to mention that the slightly credible leaks only ever said 2 forms, not 4. The 4 thing came from a completely different, as yet unsubstantiated "leak"

>>27624585
That's my point though. How would your average child (5-10) know that?

When probably more than half of these kids probably don't spend as much time on the internet.

>Robinroot
What does this even mean? Root being a replacement for hood is shit-tier wordplay.

>>27624607
Find me one person that has said they would rather 12 separate starter evos with obscure evolution requirements rather than new pokemon

>>27624629
How would most 5 year olds know where to evolve Leafeon? Or how to evole Sligoo? Or Sylveon?

>>27624620
Then kids wonder why there starters look nothing like the anime once they buy it

>>27624567
Buy the official guidebook that comes out the same day as the games. Problem solved.

CoroCoro, I'm certain, would talk about it. If multi forms are real, odds are Gamefreak would then reveal the final evolutions for the starters before the games release, so then no one gets suck with a starter form they don't like.

>>27624585
It would'nt work for next Gen games. That would mean GF would have to go out of their way to constantly create places for these starters to evolve each game moving forward when they could create less work kn themselves and just have on definitive evolution line.

>>27624611
I'm basing that on a partially correct leak that claimed Rockruff's evolution would depend on the island you leave it on overnight. I figured since the dex shows 4 evos per starter, each island could produce a different evo.

>>27624649
They aren't the starters though, starters will be simple because everyone is guaranteed one

If legit, the formes will probably not look very different from each other. They would likely have a base model each, which would have formes that has bits and pieces added to them according to their typing/theme. For example, fighting Sirene might have a different hairstyle, electric Robinhoot might have a differently shaped hood, and ghost Beltigre might have a transparent belt.

>>27624657
But the leak doesn't say that at all, it says that rockruff and the starters share a secret, people thought it would be day night evos but somehow this island theory took off for no reason despite the games names

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Don't care, but I want that
>Dragon/Fighting
>Dark/Electric
so badly.

Wait wtf with Darline??? Normal with any secondary type??

>>27624629
>>27624650
Any kid over 7 with a brain would figure it out, if NPCs and marketing constantly brought it up.
>>27624655
That is a good argument. But next gens could just introduce new items as a substitute.

>>27624696
I distinctly remember a leak, or an associated one, stated Rockruff would evolve based on the island it was left on.

The starters following the same theme is purely my own speculation.

>>27624705
I assume wild Darline will be Normal/any other type (yes, even Ghost). When bred, the father's typing will be passed down to the offspring.
So if you bred a Normal/Ghost male Darwisker to another Darwisker (let's say the mother's type is Normal/Grass), the child would be the same type as the father.

>>27624709
True, but it would diminish the gimmick they had set up before hand.

>>27624732
I'd like something a bit more solid than speculation based of memories, besides why would they have the same gimmick four times over?

>>27624705
It's secondary typing depends on the primary typing of the other parent.

>>27624372
"Leak" doesn't automatically mean it's legit. This is something purporting to be a leak, it's either a fake leak or a real leak.

We're not going to qualify it with "supposed leak" every time we mention it.

Save your complaints for the people who keep calling official announcements "leaks".

>>27624767
Theres the other option of just not talking about it

>>27624757
The main gimmick is that starters and Rockruff share a secret. Locational evos could be that secret.
>>27624760
I'm not trying to be a leaker, I'm just an anon giving his thoughts.

>>27624757
Unless the only way to get those forms in the next games would be to transfer them over from Sun/Moon. We already have to do that for some Pokemon (normal Vulpix as opposed to Alolan Vulpix).

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>>27623952
This is the only "leak" I believe

>>27624803
That should be considered fake solely because "Cowleaf"

>>27624786
Do we need all these threads full of anons giving their thoughts though and pretending they mean anything?

>>27624389
>constantly create places for these starters to evolve
How is Oricorio going to work in future games, then?

>>27624411
Yes, the "Mr XY" thing had the exact same concept with the same type.

>>27624803
Good thing that's already been btfo'd since there are no badges.

>>27624822
That's the point of these threads. What exactly are you looking for here?

>>27624705
I believe that was based on the leak of a cat pokemon that was pure normal in the wild, but could get a new typing by breeding

Interesting concept, at least.

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>>27624782
Yeah, like how we shut up about this dud when someone tried to pass it along as real.

>>27624839
To be fair, Oricorio could depend on colored flowers or something. That's how Flabebe variation works.

>>27624847
Evidence, like it says right in the OP

>>27624786
>The main gimmick is that starters and Rockruff share a secret. Locational evos could be that secret.

This would be very unique to them, to be able to evolve 4 different ways depending on island location.
If this dex is legit, Oricorio is a standalone Pokemon, and can be found on each island as their respective forms. That alone could lend credibility to this idea.

>>27624845
The OP could have easily mixed in some false information to not have Nintendo sue her ass. Look at this

http://www.pokebeach.com/2013/05/supposed-pokemon-x-and-y-insider-information

>Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it.
>Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy).
>Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items.
>The professor’s English name is Patrice.
>The Starter final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.
>The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting.
>A few attacks will be dual-typed.
>There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in.
>You will be able to see a Pokemon’s EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.

As you can see, while majority of these turned out to be correct there was some misleading information as well.

Plus, the Spanish have a good track record of being reliable leakers (ie. Hiro), probably because the local Nintendo branch just doesn't give a fuck.

>>27624880
Theres a little more to that than a contextless list out of nowhere

>>27624790
True

>>27624899
Look elsewhere, because there is no evidence.

>>27624881
That's not really how Flabébé works. Different colours of flowers have different chances of different Flabébé colours appearing, but there is no one colour of flower for one colour of Flabébé.

Besides, it was already officially confirmed, at least to my knowledge, that the four different Oricorio forms are found on the four different islands, so the form you find depends on the island you're on.

>>27624903
Typically, a gimmicky Pokemon like Oricorio WOULD be a standalone Pokemon... but not always (look at the 8 kinds of deer in gen 5, with 4 being for one Pokemon and 4 being for the evolved forms), and the different forms are found on different islands, so... it's possible.

>>27624839
Oricorio just needs to feed on the nectar of an islands flower, so a flower shop like they've had since ages should suffice

>>27624974
>still doesn't actually know what "evidence" means
Anon, please get a dictionary for Christmas.

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>>27623952
I guess it's the same guy who made this WHO ADMITTED IT WAS FAKE HIMSELF

>>27624977
It's still a similar concept that they would have no trouble tweaking.

>>27624977
But tthat seasons deer gimmick didn't translate well over to future gens now did it?

>>27624991
Jesus Christ dude, do you not get my point? You're not going to find anything here confirming the list.

>>27625007
No, cause they'd have to introduce seasons again.
Unless Deerling/Sawsbuck regain their form differences this time around depending on the island location.

>>27625027
I get your point, but your use of the word "evidence" is still wrong.

>>27625039
Skeptical, but not a bad idea though.

>>27625080
I consider evidence anything indicating validity.

>>27625004
Oh,of course.

>>27625007
No, but then again, Alolan forms mean you have to transfer from older games to get old forms of those Pokemon, so they're clearly not afraid of locking out Pokemon forms from newer games because you still have the option of transferring the other forms from older games, and now that everything is being unified with Pokemon Bank, it gives people an incentive to spend money on Pokemon Bank.

>>27623952
>What evidence supports this "leak''?

Literally nothing supports this leak. It is baby's first leak 101. It builds off previous leaks, it has fan-favourite ideas (fire/grass chilli pepper), and even references a meme (sun legendary weak to fire/moon legendary weak to dark).

People who think this even has the slightest chance of being real would believe the sky was falling if you dropped an egg on their head.

>>27625082
It'd be nice if they could bring back those forms for Sawsbuck. Always fun to see them change depending on the season in Unova.

>>27625095
What you consider "evidence" doesn't matter. What the dictionary defines as "evidence" (and what it defines as "proof" and so on and so forth) is what is important.

Just because OP is defined as a faggot, that doesn't mean you'll find OP under the dictionary definition of "faggot".

>>27625099
True. Well looks we have to wait until CoroCoro leak to either make or break this list.

>>27625106
>(sun legendary weak to fire/moon legendary weak to dark).

It's called the ECLIPSE Pokemon; it "blots" out the Sun and Moon. Of course its going to be SE against the Sun and Moon legendaries.

>>27624995
A pseudo legendary angel would have been awesome.

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All it takes is 1 pokemon to be revealed for all of this meme to be debunked.

Also,

>Fire/Grass pepper

>>27625106
>baby's first leak
Whoever made it certainly spent a lot of time. He/she made sure to include every confirmed/implied/"leaked" Alola Pokemon and presented fairly believable names for the rest.

But that doesn't mean it should be believed.

>>27625125
Death of Death pseudo?

Dark/Electric?
Sign me the fuck up.

>>27625113
I still got my point across.

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>>27625124
Yes, it has nothing to do with the faker wanting to reference a meme. Did you believe pic related too? This list is its text equivalent.

>>27625106
Cutiefly is based on a fan favorite idea from Tumblr.

>>27624133
Maybe you get to access the four islands really really early in the game? Making it possible to choose any of the four forms? Did you ever fucken think of that you stupid motherfucker?

>>27625145
Not really. You did a shit job of it and should feel ashamed for your failure as a human being and speaker of the English language.

I don't see anything that sounds like it could be a pre- or post-evolution of an existing Pokemon, which would bum me out of this gen had none of that going on.

>>27625131
It is summer so losers with nothing better to do who want le epic trolls could spend a lot of time. You don't get an A for spending a lot of time on a project if the result is shit.

>>27625161
>One post saying this cute thing should be a Pokemon!
>Literally every fake list for the past 8 years has included a fire/grass chilli pepper.

>>27625173
Well I'm not. Sorry to disappoint.

>>27625147
It still makes a whole fucking lot of sense though for it to be Fire/Dark. It resists the Ghost and Fire types of the legendary duo, and is immune to their Psychic typing as well.
That's what makes it unique--the third legendary can destroy and resist the legendary duo. Which has never been the case before.

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>Robinhoot
>Grass/Electric

ayyyy

>>27625208
>Fire
meant Steel lol

>>27625208
Also, it's not a Dragon-type.

>>27625208
Even if it made sense and wasn't a meme reference, it still wouldn't count as evidence for this being real.

>>27625203
If they responded to one popular request, why not respond to another?

If that even is the case, which it may not be. It could be coincidental.

>>27625206
I'm not disappointed. I just hope you die a horrible death soon.

>>27624981
That doesn't make sense, Oricorio doesn't change form.

>>27625237
No, but it is a logical scenario.

>>27625321
From the official website:

"Oricorio changes its form by sipping the nectar of certain flowers. Since it has four different forms—the same as the number of islands in Alola—it would seem that different Oricorio live on each of the islands."

So it seems they can technically change form going by the lore but in-game, the different forms will be found on different islands.

>>27623952
>Fire/grass pepper
Confirmed fake.

>>27625230
That too. We've had Dragon third legendaries since Gen 3. It would be a welcomed change.

>>27625125
That would be interesting. Starts off as a Throne, then becomes a Cherub, finally a Seraph.

Attack could be "Burning Sword".

I doubt Gamefreak would be so bold though.

>>27625165
Except the website clearly says we don't

>>27624392
>Calls someone else a "fucktard"
>Is wrong

Great job, dumbass.

>>27625396
...well, assuming a player don't overlevel their starters or Rockruff, in theory, they should have access to all 4 islands by the time the starter reaches level 36.

>>27625422
Depending on the pace of the levelling system and the sizes of the islands.

>>27624631
>obscure evolution requirements
I love obscure evolution requirements and unique catch methods.

I remember my joy when I finally got a legitimate Milotic in gen 3.

>>27625422
>>27625396
That, or there will be an Everstone provided somewhere early on, which can be slapped on until the player is ready.

>>27625452
I like that idea

>>27624470
As opposed to FroslASS and CoFAGrigus? Or Klinklang the CLITiclic?

The only thing that makes me believe the starters will have 4 distinct evolutions is the alolan forms

If some pokemon can thrive in certain regions of Alola, therefore change its typing from what it was then this could happen

I guess we'll know if this is real in a few days, I have my fingers crossed because this is an exciting new mechanic

>>27625452
But why would anyone (who didn't know about the split evos) do that? Anyway you can still press B to cancel evolution so it's kinda irrelevant.

>>27624521

This.

This is exactly why Yanks need to be careful with translating Japanese which uses English word origins, because non-rhotic sounds confuse those who don't have sufficient experience.

It's Marshadow, it reads and is pronounced that way.

I think that this leak is real because it was posted here and several other leaks have leaked here, just this year so therefore it is real.

Also, more evidence is that i think the names sound plausible and I like the concepts, such as Panquake and Peskool, and would like them to be real.

Also, some evidence is that the leaker included all of the Pokemon from all of the other leaks and they wouldn't have done that if it was fake.

Therefore, people who think it is fake only think it is fake because they want people to be stuck with furbait starter evolutions.

Thanks you.

>>27625649
You know how many fake leaks are posted here?

>>27625649
And including leaks that preceded you counts for nothing

>>27624442

Starters should be the most complex pokemon, though.

Nearly everyone uses them, so the possibility of kids all having different final evos for their starters is a smart thing.

>>27625566
But maybe the english named changed, like the japs used a english world maybe the english translation used a word from a different language, in this case Mal which means evil
It make sense because there is no reason for marsh to be here because it isn't even poison type

>>27624127
This would make sense why its prevo is named Quakitt. Quack is onomatopoeia for a duck sound.

A fairy goose? Maybe something like Mother Goose? Sounds interesting

>>27624431
I planned to remain skeptical but open to this but this honestly seems like a nail in the coffin

>>27625672
Just because some fake leaks get posted, doesn't mean the majority are. Look at Cutiefly. It was real and it was posted here.

>>27625684
No, but if they were fake the leaker wouldn't have included them so its real.

>>27624273
That's enough. Monkey's type wasn't mentioned in the leaks.

Lumage/Laspell/Libraid will probably be the next humanoid female psychic type.

Every odd numbered gen introduces one.

1: Jynx
3: Gardevoir
5: Gothitelle

Just a silly little pattern but it's fun to speculate

>>27625753
You need to really explain that logic to me

For starters the majority of leaks posted here are fake, but because they're fake discussion is hort lived. And having your leak copy stuff from other leaks that aren't even shown to be right means literally nothing, I can make a list right now with them.

So how is this real?

>>27623992
This proves it, japs are awful with Roman letters and English. The Mitsubishi starion was supposed to be stallion but got engrished by the marketing on the Japanese side

>>27625898
This is ignoring the fact that the leaks it copies off contradict each other and can't all be right

>>27625898
Um, just saying the majority are fake doesn't it true, anon. And if you could make a list as real sounding as this one, go ahead. But it would be fake because you already told us you made it.

Question: When did /vp/ turn to shit?
Answer: It was always shit but you made it worse.

>>27626015
Not sure what you were trying to say there

You're the one who brought up leaks here being true as evidence this must be true, and of course if I said I was making it up it would be fake the point is it's doable. Theres been like 3 similar lists over the last few months that people like you defended, and theres a ton of fan dexes with real sounding names for all the pokemon.

>>27626134
Its just real because it sounds real and was posted on here because there have been real leaks here, and Hiro likes it and Pokejungle posted it, ok? Thats the reason. You have no evidence that its not real and saying it could be fake is not evidence!

>>27625783
Libraid could be "little braid" or "libra maid".

Maybe a blindfolded humanoid female holding the scales of justice?

>>27623952
If this leak is real I'll sudoku on stream for all of you. If just ONE of the unrevealed Pokemon is actually revealed in CoroCoro.

>>27626247
>Its just real because it sounds real

>>27624287
They should've done this with the Johto starters.
When they're evolved in Alola, gain various 2nd typing.

>>27624405

That would actually be pretty neat. I'm sure that the uneven gender ratio would make female types less common, but I would be okay with that if it were true.

>>27626247
You can't just say it's real till someone proves otherwise that's ludicrously stupid, are the leaks that disagree all real too? If I told you mega Dunsparce with wonderguard was in the game would that be confirmed real?

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>>27624995

No, a different person from the leaker made the list using a similar website. The list was actually originally released like this.

>>27626455
If you made it sound believable yes, but now you've told me so I would think it was fake. This list is real.

>>27625719

Legendaries, especially the important ones, almost always keep the same name across all languages.

It's literally "Maashadou", and *not* "Marushadou", as has been explained, so it's highly unlikely that this will change into "Mal".

And we don't really know the etymology until we can see an image or perhaps a confirmed typing. It could be "Marsh", it could be "Mars" ... there are a few different things it could refer to.

It's legit because it has everyone's new favorite Pokemon, Pesp.

The thing that makes it most believable for me is what they left out.
>no fossils
>no alola forms
>Malshadow didn't receive an original typing like we were told, and instead just received an uncommon one
>didn't make Wimpod the base form like most retards would have
If this is fake, they showed a lot of restraint.

>>27626536
>This list is real
How are you so thick, you don't just decide it's real while at the same time saying I could fool you if I hadn't said I would

Do you just believe everything you're told?

>>27623952
>Dragon/Fighting

Please be fucking real

Anyone else notice 'Scruluse', like 'screw loose'. Haha I love it. Right up there with Bewear.

>>27626625
No, but this leak is just too hard to fake to this level of believabilty in my opinion and you arent going to convince me otherwise.

>>27624995
I made that spreadsheet from the list that was leaked on 4chan. I did the same thing in yesterday's thread.

>>27626247

Hiro and PokeJungle don't know shit, though. PokeJungle posts leaks all the time, and Hiro liking something doesn't make it real.

Don't get me wrong, I want this list to be real, too, but there needs to be more proof apart from 'it sounds like it could be real." We should be finding that out any moment now.

>>27626698
>too hard to fake
No it would be impossible for someone to think up names like Weruff or Mightior and then slap them all together in a shitty list

As I keep saying we have been through this multiple times already and every time it has been proven wrong come the next reveal

>>27625649
You're new here, aren't you?

>>27626575
Pesp Man! Pesp Man!

>>27626698
You would be surprised how much effort some people put into fake leaks.

>>27626780
Who would come up with a list of over 100 names and typings though unless it was real?

>>27626880
Ask the 7 people who did it before this "leak"

>>27626880
I did once because I was monumentally bored. I also got drunk recently and counted how many pages there were in the entire JoJo's Bizarre Adventure manga because I had nothing better to do. It's 22,913 as of last month's chapter, if you were wondering.

>>27623952
What kind of fucking dumb name is Wimpod, holy shit. There's no way these are real.

Anyone have the screen shot of the Aug 1st Winbat/Winbette 'leak'?
I want to show it to >>27626698

>>27627172
Just deleted them yesterday. Damn

>>27627172
I saw them. They had typos. They were fake from the start. This one doesn't have any typos.

>>27626880
I have 3 file cabinets in my garage stuffed with autistic ramblings and calculations I've done for nearly everything. There's a folder dedicated to me reviewing different kinds of anti-freeze with data to back it up.
Autism is a powerful weapon.

>>27624385
>I wasn't looking at the trademarked name there's still no reason it can't become Malshadow
yes, there is. there's literally zero etymological basis for it.

>>27627209
Except for the one half the thread is spent discussing

>>27626698
>Robinroot
>believable

If it's not real, then I would at least like the starter forms to be real and I honestly can see them doing this. With the z moves feature and the fact that rock ruff shares the same "secret" as the starters, maybe that's what it is.. if anything from the core coronary leaks matches up to this then I'm calling it real.

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>>27623952
>Flycicle

>>27625722
Something like that. The Nene is the state bird of hawaii so Bonene doesn't seem that crazy

Can everyone who believes this please stick around in case we get the corocoro leaks

Never been around for leakfags getting rekt live

>>27623952
It's a shame. Between the amount of pokemon, presumed psuedo typings, and multiple forms for the shitty starters and potentially cool werewolf thing, this list sound so damn cool, but its almost garaunteed to be fake. There's just no weight to any evidence, its all extremely weak.

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>>27627328
>Talonflame

>>27627265
>Talonflame
>Ditto
>Cofagrigus

If anything the dumb names are evidence its real coz a fake leaker would make everything sound edgy and cool.

Corocoro comes tommorow most likely with two new pokemon

lets see if types are matched

>no evidence

Reminder that people don't know what the term "leak" means.

Reminder that there are underage little shits who will believe this list.

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>>27627298
>core coronary

>>27627947
Actually I think that there IS a reason to believe.

There were till now at least 3-4 people who leaked REAL info about the game. Therefore there are more leakers, probably Americans that have connections or insiders.

If the leaks are true, my team, minus Alolan forms is looking lIke:

Sirene (Water/Ice)
Bonene
Triburn
Quasaur
Libraid
Forgoyle

>>27628255
You might have to take into account that things on your team may be version exclusive.

>>27628050
Exactly what I was saying before. There have been real leaker on here, so all leaks here are now more credible.

>robinhoot
>not grass/archer
Fake

>>27624574
>meme typing
Everything's a "meme" to you fucking millenials. Go fucking die, piece of shit.

>>27624607
No. He's right. Nobody asked or wants split forms for the fucking starters. They're supposed to be "special". Fuck off reddit. Fufufufufu

>>27624767
>we
It's fake. GF is incompetent, it won't add these many new type combination. The starters have to be "simplify" per se, so kiddies won't have a hard time deciding which to pick. After all, they're the demographic and are stupid as fuck(according to JohnFreak). So fuck off shiskin nigger/honkey.

>>27629683
I've seen plenty of anons in favor of multiple evos. I certainly am. It adds variety.

And I'll be honest, I like the idea because it means there's a chance I could evolve Litten and Popplio into something other than the leaked designs.

>>27626610
True, most fakes go full retard. And Gamefreak has been doing some less common type combos this gem (Electric/Fairy, Bug/Fairy, Fire/Poison, Bug/Water, Ghost/Fairy, Rock/Flying) which points to more type diversity overall. This list really isn't that out there and the Tapus all match up to speculation on Island typings. Only strange part are the multiple starter types.

>>27627496
at least talonflame is funny

>>27624405
I'm at the point where I wouldn't put it past GF to have multiple starter evos in Sun and Moon because of the amount of change to the usual Pokemon formula in this gen so far.

>>27629625
>He hasnt seen the 100 threads a day saying "Sun legend, weak to fire [rafe image]"