Defend this. Whats the point of the flames coming out of the

there is no point

If these leaks do turn out to be real I can't wait to see how bad this looks in 3d

>>27592946
It's the rule of cool

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Defend this. Whats the point of the water coming out of the cannons when it could just shoot water out its mouth?

INB4 people say it's okay.

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>>27592984
>>27592946
BTFO
T
F
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Defend this. Whats the point of the flames coming out of the nose when it could just breathe fire out its mouth?

>>27592984
It shoots water out the cannons because it can.

And what would something that is clearly a physical attacker do with fire spin?

>>27593008
Because you can still breathe threw your nose. Are you retarded?

>>27592946
he's the fucking champ, he doesn't have to explain shit

Because you're expecting it from its mouth and this guy fights dirty.

>>27593034
>threw
Are YOU retarded?

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>>27592946

Defend this. Whats the point of the flames coming out of the wrists when it could just breathe fire out its mouth?

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Defend this. Whats the point of flames coming out of the wand when it could just breathe fire out its mouth?

>>27593074
>>27593091
I hate these both too so...

The point is for the sake of furries who will spend all their mom's money on shit

>>27593091
So wait, she has a flamming stick stuck in her butt? Jesus that's lewd.

>>27593038
/thread

I like how nobody has yet made a good argument instead they are mocking the way i worded the post. Great defending you guys

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>>27592946

>>27593215

No

>Pokedex: With friction from its tail fur, it sets the twig on fire and launches into battle.

When she pulls the stick out, friction lights it on fire

>>27593237
>Nobody made a good argument
>>27593038

>>27593261
See

>>27593202

It's the designated starter for sick fucks

>>27593261
So she lights it up... with her ass friction...

>>27593283
So its going to be a special attacker then?

>>27592946
because you don't expect it to come from the belt
its a dirty trick to catch you off guard because hes a heel

>>27593064
Great argument you have there.

>>27593337
So how is the flame belt suppose to be a surprise tatic when the belt itself is shapped like a fire. Seems kinda redundant.
For that matter why cant machamp shoot things out of its belt now that belts can project attacks?

>>27592946
Because belt fire + mouth fire is stronger than belt fire or mouth fire.

>>27593337
It's clearly sexual you furry fuck

>>27593381

Because Machamp is wearing an actual belt, and this is just fire in the shape of a belt to enhance the pro wrestler motif

>>27593381
Because Machamp's is a random belt while this one is made of Litten3's own fire.

>>27593335
>signature move is a special fire attack that calculates its damage using attack rather than sp attack
please gamefreak

>>27592984
It's fucking cannons. Cannons shoot stuff, and blastoise uses cannon to shoot powerful jets of water.

a belt is... a belt, yeah.

>>27593008
it's still about breathing fire.

>>27593074
Pretty sure it shoot fire from it mouth or something too, I assume the wrist-flames are here for style.

>>27593091
It's a fucking wand. A fire-wand that shoot fire spells.

Its amazing, /vp/ still is ass blasted over heel tiger.

Also, it was established with litten it only was able to spit fiery hair balls out of it's mouth. Meaning it never could breath fire.

>>27593328
yes
do not fuck the phox

>>27592984
He does though. The cannons will never get a special animation.

>>27593456
>heel tiger

You mean baracat

>>27593381
Assuming he evolves into a Fire/Dark type:
Because he's not a Dark type of where as Dark type users typically rely on tricks?

I don't know, maybe it's like on how in Punch Out you have your opponents cheat by bringing illegal items in like Aran Ryan with his boxing glove whip or Soda Popsiniki with his Soda Steroids.

>>27593468
Squirtle and Wartortle do it from their mouths so Blastoise could probably do it as well.

>>27593492
thats what i said

>>27593418
So the fire belt is constantly heated with littenes internal fire then? Yet its wearing the fire as cloths. In litterally any design with a fire starter pokemon the fires they have are either turn-offable or ever constant.
The belt doesnt have the same fire effect as the other fire starters ether.

>>27593485
>bara

If that things bara, anyone who ever lifted weights once qualifies for bara.

>>27593008
>>27593074
Emboar, fire for close range grapple fighting.
Blaziken, fire for close range fist fighting.

Litten3 can breath ranged fire, belt that also shoots ranged fire for ???

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>Litten can attack with flaming hairballs! Its fur is rich in oils and immensely flammable. Litten grooms itself by licking its fur, and then uses the collected fur as fuel for fireball attacks!

Litten doesn't "breathe fire" like other Fire-types, it spits flaming hairballs.

The belt ties in with the whole flammable fur thing, allowing it to shoot fire from there and free up its mouth for spitting Asian mist in its opponents faces.

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>>27592946
Belt aside, nips love them some luchadores.

>>27592984
Are you comparing a canon to a belt?

>>27593351
He is right, you are retarded.

>>27593600
Nice i will remember that.
Could you explain why you think this starter is real?
Without bringing up the mallow in the pic.

>>27593649
>Could you explain why the starter pic is real without explaining why the starter pic is real?

>>27593537
It is important to identify it by its furbait nature in order to expose anyone who defends it's design as a degenerate furry.

Litten3's belt is actually its oily hair on fire, having burned all of the hair off its chest. It follows Litten, who lights its hair balls on fire and shoots them.

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>>27593658
>Muh generic Hawaiian girl

>>27593658
Im retarded remember? Im asking for a legit argument or shut up.

>>27593665
Thinking it's furbait in the first place makes you a furry. No non-furry person looks at that and goes "i wanna fuck that cat"

>>27593575
>>27592946
the giant belt is really more of a wwe thing

>>27593700

"generic" implies that there are a million other "Hawaiian girls" that look exactly like that

The hairstyle is exactly the same
The outfit is exactly the same
The kettle on Litt3n's fire belt matches up with her love of cooking

>>27593665
Oh I see, so your so anally eviscerated you didn't get your feral porn you gotta pretend it's the people who like the top tier Kane Tiger who have the shit taste and are degenerates.

>>27593741
You're obviously new here if you're not aware of the constant spam about it by furries

>>27593700
people always spout this "generic Hawaiian girls"
but not once has anyone posted a picture of these generic girls that are oh so common

>>27593700
Why is it people like/liked Ballio so much? I always thought he looked completely absurd. Early on I saw people saying he looked like shit but now I see people singing it's praises. I'm not getting it. Maybe because I think clowns are a crap design motif, but that's just me.

>>27593771
>feral porn

What on Earth are you on about? I'm mad that furries have completely taken over this board spamming their new favourite fantasy when there are a million other things about these.games to discuss. I don't have to pretend that furries are degenerates it's pretty obvious

>>27593770
>the kettle on littens fire belt matches up.
So npcs in the game now determine what attribues the starters have in their evolution line make no sence.

>>27593839
>furries have completely taken over this board

How fucking new are you?

>>27593792
>constant spam by furries

Maybe in bizzaro /vp/ I haven't seen a single sexual image, nor anyone describing how they want to fuck it, on this thread in any thread I've visited since it got announced.

>>27593867
>not liking furry
>that makes him new

>>27593017
it's gonna be mixed like Emboar. Better typing for that though.

>>27593817
I liked Ballio for the absurdity of the design. It is wacky and goofy and just warm heartening in an era of edginess and sameness.

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>>27593817
It's different, it's kind of scary/uncanny looking and some people like me enjoy that from time to time. Also he seems to fit the circus theme that I thought Popplio embodied. I never thought about him becoming a mermaid, it's not the weirdest evolution because stuff like samuroth exists but it seems off.

>>27593337
this

>>27593887
No, I'm implying that a furfag epidemic was ten times worse in the past than it is now.

>>27593792
Ive been here years and most of what Ive seen is closet furries complaining about how they're furbait but but but definitely not attracted to them. No sir.

>>27592946
Originality

>>27593867
>Not being a furry makes you new

Baracat fags ladies and gentleman.

>>27593874
You're either lying or fresh off the boat from reddit (where you should go back).

>>27593915
That's some desperation there.

>n-no, it's the people that DON'T worship the design that are the furries!

>>27593921
I suspect you're actually retarded.

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Oh my god why cant people stop being so nitpicky and actually allow themselves to enjoy a new design
It is coming out of his belt for the sake of creativity

>>27593947
Again, almost all discussion is spegbazzles like you claiming how furries are so attractex to them and very few actual furries.

>bu bubububu if you like them you are fury desu

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>>27593817
>>27593902
He also reminded me of pic related. He could be like him, a scary looking guy but a really kind pokemon that cares about everyone.

>>27593920
Oh its original alright. Its just stupid and doesnt make sence for a fire/dark evolution line.

>>27593921

>2016
>people are STILL pretending that Reddit and 4chan don't have the exact same userbase

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>>27592964

I assume standing, in a probable fighting pose? Not much from here.

fug, I feel like they're going to ruin his hands even more

well, it's not like I was going to pick him either way, I already had my share of Fire starters, although I was hoping picking a water starter bro to try out that type

so much for a bro too when it looks more like a sis. I guess I can pretend it to be a bro if I happen to get a male Popplio, although I always end up fucking up and keep calling it a she despite it all.

At least there's still Rowlett? Looks like a cool owl.

but fuck, I already picked Grass type in 6th gen. Chesnaught was dope, although some design points in him really stood out in a really bad way, like the shield arm animation

dunno why I feel so apathetic towards these final evolutions especially compared to last gen

maybe I'm just getting too old

>>27593996
How does a flamethrower equivalent of a gut punch not make sense for a fire/dark

>>27593981
>Stop having standards and just turn off your brain and enjoy it.xDD

It's a bad design. Deal with it

>>27594018
It's a good design, you just don't like it.

There is a difference.

>>27594004
>2016
>people are STILL triggered by Reddit bait

>>27594013
Because it looks like a physical attacker. Yet its using a ranged move that doesnt even have that much range. It looks like its barely going a couple feet in frount of it.

>>27594034
It looks like a rejected looney toons character.

>>27592946
Because it's a preliminary sketch looking at the potential of a Fire Pokemon based on Black Tiger.
Why do you think it can breath fire anyway? There's no reason to think that.
Plus, he's spitting poison mist like The Great Muta as well because he's a heel like >>27593337 pointed out.

I'm still going with the idea that this won't be a started and we'll get it and Tiger Mask based version exclusives and hopefully a Jushin Liger as well, but I fucking love it it's fucking great.

>>27593237
Think of it like a magic gem/emblem, that's where he can choose to cast fire from. Other pokemon have a similar aspect, like with starmie or golduck using a gem to cast/use psychic powers. Its just odd because it's the fire instead of something more energy based like psychic or ghost attacks

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>>27594060
Are you implying it looks worse than generic shit like this?

>>27594034
>its a good design
Maybe if youre blind.

>>27592946
>heeleo is grappling with someone
>hands are occupied
>shoots fire directly into the other guy's crotch
Now that's a heel tactic

>>27594093

>implying Taz isn't infinitely more expressive and versatile, while still having more rough detail despite its simplicity

>>27594093
Yes because your pic is a tighter design than baracat.

>>27594018
Even if it is bad or not, it shouldnt matter. Complaining wont do shit. Standards wont mean shit. Pokemon exists so people can have fun with it.
If you really try to low your pride just a little bit I can guarantee you will be having way more fun than being mad about some fictional wrestler cat.

>>27594120
They are literally on the same design level.

>>27594097
Are you blind?

>>27594093
Thats classic. Nothing beats Taz m8

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>>27592946
anon do you even Kotetsu Jeeg?

>>27594151
Why do you bother coming onto discussion forums if all you have to say is "just enjoy it anyway guise!!111!!"?

>>27594159
>They are literally on the same design level.

It's funny that you think that.

>>27594159
Taz isn't covered in extraneous design bullshit.

>>27594159
How would i be reading your comment if i was blind? Stop being 12 for 5 seconds, and consider the design shit already!

>>27594167
Complaining isn't discussion.
Going, "If you like it you're retarded/baiting/a furry," isn't discussion.

>>27594183
Neither is heel tiger, it's designed to convey something more specific than Taz is, so it requires more design elements.

>>27594183
Exactly he's a generic, bland looking cartoon character with a 2D personality.

>>27594093
Apples and Oranges there, mate.
Pokemon are designed to represent cultural aspects and/or wildlife of the region they belong to. Taz is an exaggerated cartoon meant to look wacky. They can't be compared because their designs are drawn up for completely different reasons.

>>27594093
OMG furybait! Guys Im not a fury but if you like this you are! Clearly designed for sex with animal lovers! ( not me, though, I am normal human sex)

>>27594196
>he thought I was being literal
That's a sign of autism anon.

>>27592984
>>27593005
1 minute apart lol, samefag
It makes sense for cannons to shoot something. It doesnt make sense for a belt to shoot anything let alone a swirl of fire, just swirls on out huh, MAKES SENSE! its the equivalent to giving poppmaid a visor that shoots water shaped like cubes.

>>27594167
I'm just trying to help people that seems to be on an incessant rage about new designs. If people will take my advice or not is another matter, I've already said everything I had to say.

>>27594202
Needing to tack on more and more bullshit to get across your design means either a) the idea is too complex or b) the design is too complex for your limited skill set.

>>27594205
15 year olds aren't allowed to post here

>>27594249
>im autistic for asking for asking why he likes this trash

>>27594268
>I disagree with you, so you are underage

19 year olds are so cute.

>>27594268
What is being tacked on, be more specific you fucking retard.

You haven't heard of the Z-Items yet?

Z-Belt lets you perform 1 attack per battle of a type you couldn't normally use.

>>27592984
>>27593091
Canons and magic wands are classic, easily identifiable weapons. A belt is a belt bruh.

>>27593992
I suppose it just doesn't sit well with me. I hate clowns and I don't really like things that look sinister in that fashion.

>>27592946
>WOW A CAT THAT SPIT FIRE AND STANDS WITH TWO LEGS HAS A BELT MADE OUT OF FIRE? WAW THIS IS RETARDED. I HATE POKEMON NOW

>>27594342
Great argument

>>27594308
Actually, a lack of restraint when it comes to anything creative is most common amongst teenagers as novices (guitarists who play 5 pedals with their manic guitar solos/writers who self insert Mary sues/ artists who create visual messes of themes and ideas)

>>27594250
>he's never seen the tricks the heel wrestler pull in Japan and Mexico
>he doesn't know that those crowds react especially well the ludicrous things like that
If you want to complain about design, maybe learn about design first. If you want to complain about how a wrestler s designed, you need to watch the wrestler it's referencing first.
Retard.

Literally every single pokemon this gen has look terrible in the art, but looks great once we see it moving.
Just wait until we see the model in action.

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>>27593817

Pinnister (Ballio was more a pet name from /vp/, not sure, I heard it was supposedly a name that came along with the design) was mostly thought of at first as something terrifying and insane first time it came about, unsettling if you will. People kept associating it with Pennywise, of course and other kind of bad clowns. Others also thought he would be some sort of killer/rapist clown. It was mostly the face that gave off such impressions and possibly the water ball he held. Shitposting about that started to emerge.

Among those who thought that, there were the few who thought he might actually have been a monster design that could have worked as the "misunderstood" pokemon. Absolutely terrifying on the outside and mostly thought of more as creepy, but ultimately a gentle creature that means no harm and possibly with the same personality as Popplio, playful, frivolous and tends to get carried away. Fan art emerged focusing on that and people probably got used to the idea of that.

Then D.I came (supposedly the true artist behind these, Huntshoot (Owltair) and Juarfare (Cannonther) included) and reveals that while he did use bad clowns as inspiration (even including Pennywise itself, Hisoka from Hunter X Hunter too), he also pointed out that Pinnister was indeed a nice pokemon, which confirmed the latter and later said he did like clowns. Not sure if this artist is a load of bull or not and who knows if he didn't came up with that part just to appease that smaller part of Pinnister's fanbase. The thing is, it doesn't deny the fact from the thread existing and it being pretty much a big fat deconfirmation thread, with plenty of concept art. Some concept art even shows Pinnister not even having that much of a human face, but more resembling a actual male sea lion face.

Needless to say, while this big shit didn't manage to get that much attention at the beginning, mostly scaring the crap out of those with clown phobia, people kind of got used to him.

>>27594371
>19
>Not a teenager

Go on

>>27594404
>in the art
There is no "art", there are character portrait though and all of them have been amazing bar Bruxish.

>>27594403
I'm convinced that the majority of retards on /vp/ who whines how things are poorly designed don't even know what design means.

Can we just save the comments made by the people on denial to make collages that everyone is going to enjoy instead of wasting our time trying to explain to them that "1 + 1 = 2" just so they can call it meme?

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>>27594404
Except youre wrong

>>27594421
What are you trying to say? Use your words

>>27594455
If you confront them hard enough about it they fuck off, though

>>27594422
Nah, Bewear looks terrible in everything but the in-game model.
I wouldn't like the bird dancing if I couldn't see them dancing either.

>>27594474
This thread inst even about denial. Im just asking why is the belt there when it could be something that actually fits the motif of litten.

>>27594474
Doesnt matter all the denialists will just claim they were being "ironic" and move on to spinning their trillbys and filling their cargo short pockets

>>27594506
The motif of litten 3 is being a heel wrestler. The belt fits that motif.

>>27594498
If you understood what it's based on you wouldn't say something so blatantly retarded.

>>27594547
Reread his post.

>>27594506
Litten has oily hair it lights on fire. Litten3's hair has burned off its torso and now it shoots fire from part of the lit hair from its waist. I'd put money on Litten having on on-fire torso or the ability to set itself on fire

>>27594542
Litten is a cat that licks itself and shoots fire from its hairballs.
How does that transition into a bipedal heel wrestler it comepletly abondons the consept of litten as a whole

>>27594570
Reread mine, you nonse. It looks great because it's character portrait perfectly depicts everything about the concept behind the design. Literally and definitively making it "good".

>>27594206
Maybe they intentionally tried to make him cartoony to change things a little bit?

>>27594589
Like a good chunk of stage one starters to stage three starters? That's not exactly an uncommon thing

>>27594614
What are you on about?

>>27594617
Those evolutions never compelety went in a different direction during the evolution process ether, and kept design roughly the same in one way or another.

FIRE
DICK

>>27593996
>doesnt make sense
Why not?

>>27594674
Litten3 has as much in common with Litten as Emboar does with Tepig and more in common with litten than Blazicken does with Torchic

>>27594674
Show me how Torchic has the same design direction as Blaziken.

You're not allowed to include to use Combusken, as we don't have the middle stage for Litten either.

>>27594686
Because it looks like a fire/fighting type at 1st glance. Houndoom is fire dark and actually looks like its typing so why not this?

>>27594713
It looked like a heel at first glance, which makes perfect sense as a fire/dark.

>>27594713
>She still thinks Pokémon need to look like they are their type

Casuals like you are why GF decided to show the type effectiveness in battle now

>>27594656
I mean, cartoon chatacters do have their appeal, since they're generally full of personality and charisma (especially the villains). Maybe they tried to incorporate this concept on Litten3 so children would be like "Haha look at this funny guy he is smashing pikachu with a table"

>>27594743
What?.. This has nothing to do with my post.
Wrestlers are super exaggerated to appeal to children. Especially the Villains. Their tricks are to get children to boo them.
Adult fans tend to understand the whole act and watch for the storytelling you would any other theatrical performance.

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>feminine fire dog starter is revealed
>every waifu furfag loves it

>masculine fire cat starter is revealed
>the fags get upset because they can't imagine themselves fucking it

>>27594729
Fine you win thread over.

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Defend this. What's the point of psychic powers coming out of it's spoons when it could just breathe psychic out of it's mouth?

>>27594183
Yeah, but Taz is just a generic cartoon monster. You know why? Because he looks absolutely nothing like a Tasmanian Devil. He's just a generic crazy monster, with brown fur because animals are brown! Except Tasmanian Devils.

>>27594739
They already went over how it will go away once you encounter the pokemon again. What does that have to do with designing a fire/dark to look like a fire/fighting?

>>27594863
>goes away

You retard, you battle it once and then it it shows you what's good against it in the next fight.

>>27594843
Comparing litten3 to this is unfair. It looks leages better.

>>27594795
You said that Taz and Litten3 cant be compared because they have been designed for entirely different reasons.
My point is that maybe this is not the case, since both would have the same purpose of looking whacky to attract children.

>>27594863
They said it would only appear once you'd faced it at least one time.

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>>27594403
>>27594455
>>27594491
>Trying this hard to rationalize such a stupid idea of fire coming out of a belt

Jesus Christ.
Look, whether or not you like the design is irrelevant to the fact that fire coming out of a belt is a pretty stupid concept

The other guy had the right idea. Cannons shoot shit, belts don't.

Period end of.

>>27592984
Are you serious? It doesn't even use the fucking cannons!

>>27594921
>He has never been shot by a belt

>>27594883
But it is the case. Taz is a cartoon character designed to be a cartoon character. He doesn't even remotely resemble a Tasmanian Devil - he isn't even designed to look like the things he's designed to be.

Pokemon are meticulous and draw from tonnes of resources to depict very specific aspects of culture in a given region.

There's a significant difference in how they are designed so they aren't comparable.

>>27594921
>I've never watched anything and have severe assbergers
Go take your medication or something, stop being a moron.

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>>27594921
Wow, flowers don't shoot acid, what a dumb concept!

>>27594943
Oh, so they're just extraneous tacked on overdesigned shit?

>>27594921
Never before have I seen a cat whip it's tail onto its back and shoot a cannonball out from its mouth.

>>27594975
Yes

You guys managed to defend this harder than I thought you would.
Wow.

We went from braxian to this. I just dont get why people would approve of it.

>>27595094
>We went from female furbait to male furbait
Oh darn!

>>27595128
Has nothing to do with furbait. Its more or less the art style getting worse.

Maybe its for sneak attack purposes, you expect fire from its mouth but no it used Fire Spin with a pelvic thrust!

>>27595128
Its just the qualities of litten3 really fucked over litten's design.

>>27592964

Actually a 3D Model would make it look better

>>27592984
2 things

That's a fucking cannon's job

Also it doesn't shoot out of them

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>>27593038

There you go

People still don't understand that this is supposed to be a Heel fighter

The belt

The chair

The fucking poison that tiger mask literally does in pic related

>>27594956
>>I've never watched anything and have severe assbergers

The fuck are you on about?
Do you watch "Belt Wars" on TV or something? Did your dad get shot by a belt? Go shit yourself, your babbling means nothing.

>>27594970
That concept went over your head, which is not surprising.

A water-squirting flower is a classic gag that clowns use when they prank unsuspecting patrons. The Joker also known as "The Clown Prince of Crime" is based on a combination of a Jester (Joker) and a clown which is why he sometimes pranks people, BUT his pranks are also deadly, so of course he would fill the squirting water with actual acid. Make sense?
Are you 12? The Litten final evo has nothing like this attached to it. It's just a belt with no meaning.


http://boingboing.net/2014/10/02/a-short-history-of-jokes-about.html

>>27595180
litten was shit to begin with so there's no loss

>>27595175
>sneak attacking
>with the most obvious way of attacking.
What makes people think its a heel wrestler again?

>>27595225
If you read any of the posts in this thread you'd know that people here actually understand the design and have explained it already. If you're not going to read the thread then don't post.

>>27595234
I actually like litten a lot more than this bushit. Dont go trying to make it look bad like this bullshit trash fake evolution.

>>27595180

>Litten's tail looks like a lit fuse, hence the name LITten
>Litten 3 looks like it's been blown up/burned

>Litten is described as calm and collected
>Litten3 is described as wild and gutsy

It matches perfectly with Litten's bomb motif.

It starts out calm (like a domestic cat), and becomes wilder (like a tiger) with each evolution.

>>27595217
So if it can spit poison out of its mouth why cant it shoot fire the exact same way?

This whole thread is fucking autistic.

>>27595225
Yeah you actually are an aspie.

It's a heel, so it's going to pull tricks on people like heels do.

>>27594093
wtf i hate taz now

>>27595302
Maybe it can?

>>27595291
So it just decided to go against its calm and cool demeanor for somthing the complete opposite wow what a personality change in everyway. Why even evolve him then?

>>27592946
corkscrew penis

>>27595352
Yeah that has never happened before with a Pokemon ever.

>>27595352

Plenty of Pokemon do complete 180s in personality when they evolve.

>>27595217

I wonder if they'll make a new move or just slap Litten3 with Sludge Wave

>>27595352
>what is magikarp

>>27595217
How do they do that? What are they spitting?

>>27592946
Maybe Kamen Rider or WWE reference?

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>>27595272
>>27595333
See, you guys keeps spouting "HE'S A HEEL!!", yes we getting you fucking retards, no one is denying the possibility.
What I'm saying is unlike the Joker's acid flower trick, it has no basis on a trope or anything pertaining to its inspiration.

If it spit ember in its victims unsuspecting face that would make sense, you know why? Because heel fighters actually do shit like that. Same thing with fish hooking, groin shots, eye gauging, those are all illegal dirty moves so they make sense.

But there is no such thing as heel fighters having a booby trapped belt or anything similar to it, it has no history or actual relevance.

you don't know anything about wrestling or luchas or any shit like that, you just spout "He's a heeeeel!" when people point out inconsistencies in design

>>27595475

http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/Asian_mist

>Asian mist refers to the illegal maneuver of spitting a colored liquid in the face of an opponent in wrestling. By doing so, the opponent will (in kayfabe) be blinded and experience intense stinging in the eyes. Asian mist originated in Japan where it is known as dokugiri, or "Poison Fog" although it is used by a select few wrestlers around the world. The first wrestler to use the Asian mist was The Great Kabuki, but the maneuver was handed down to his (kayfabe) son, The Great Muta. Killer Khan and Kendo Nagasaki introduced the mist to the U.S. in the late 80s. It was also associated with former WWE superstars Kwang and Yoshihiro Tajiri. Today, green mist is still utilized by the likes of MsChif, RelliK, Roxxi Laveaux, Hornswoggle.

>Asian mist can come in almost any color, but the most common one used is green.

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>>27592946

>>27595529
You're dense. The Joker flower trick is the same trope. Guys like Doink the clown have done the same thing. Kikutaro does stuff like that. Yano Toru does stuff like that. You must have never ever watched wrestling ever.

>>27595555
The fuck, I'm not criticizing the joker flower trick, that's a thing, the fire belt is not a thing at all.
One exists, the other doesn't. If you wanna say GF pulled the fire belt out of it's ass, go ahead, but don't say it has roots anywhere.

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Defend this. Whats the point of the flames coming out of the back when it could just breathe fire out its mouth?

>>27595596
They're the same thing. They're literally the same trick.

>>27595606
My fucking trypophobia is kicking in.

>>27595606
If those were drills it would not be an inaccurate Gurren Lagann photo

>>27595596
Nigga, we're saying its the same trick. Heels use tricks, this is a trick.

Is there an actual wrestler that has a belt that spits fire? Of coarse not, it's hard to pull that off without using actual fire, which is very much a no no in wrestling.

But it fits thematically with what heels do.

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>>27595611
No it isn't.

You smell flowers, there is no reason to get that close to someone's belt.

Someone can say "this flower smells really good..." and you can get right up to the flower and get squirted in the face. They let their guard down to do something people do all the time, smell flowers.

If someone says "hurr this belt is really cool" will you let your guard down, bend over, and put your face right up against his belt? Probably, because you're used to sucking cock. Faggot.

>>27595664
You do understand that, when wrestling someone, controlling their waste is pretty much the best approach to gaining the upper hand right?
I understand you know nothing about wrestling or self-defense or anything at all... But that's the deal. Same trick.

>>27595661
I can use a trick to shoot pellets out of my ass but it's still a stupid trick

>>27595610
It does though are you purposfully being retarded at this point?

>>27595707
You're just spouting random "factoids", and babling about "You don't know ANYTHING about wrestling" as if you actually know shit.
Controlling their "waste" (lel) is a thing sure, but is it going to make you bend over to look at a belt? Be realistic, no it isn't.

You're one of those people that keeps talking themselves into a hole.

That's actually the only aspect I like about it.

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Defend this. Whats the point of the flames coming out of the arms when it could just breathe fire out its mouth?

>>27595780
So intead of answering my question you continue to act austistic?

>>27595751
Nah, you've had it explained to you but you keep saying "lol it's not that" because you don't have a counter point and you're a retard, fuck off.

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>>27595780
>Why are flames coming out of a mortar??

Kill your family and then yourself, mongoloid

I actually am arguing with an aspie, who knows nothing of fighting, staged or real.

>>27595707
What are we doing with our lives?


>>27595664
Guess what? The waist is a very vulnerable location on the human body, it's where your organs aren't well protected by your rib cage.

Being able to essentially sucker punch a guy with fire would be pretty effective.

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Defend this. Whats the point of the flames coming out of the shell when it could just breathe fire out its mouth?

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>>27595811
Your explanations are you pulling shit out of your ass. Take the time to sit down, get your hands off the keyboard, and try to think critically. because you are a fucking retard my man.

>>27595823
I really don't think Litten's evo uses his belt to sucker punch, at all. My guess it's his champion belt that has a flaming belt buckle, that's it. That makes more sense than "hurrr he uses it to sucker punch people!!"

>>27595857
The shell is cracked and its inner flame is leaking out

>>27595857
At least its not a belt. That would just be stupid.

>>27595874
Don't respond to him. He's doing the equivalent of shitting on his hand and throwing it at the wall

>>27595302
Who is to say that it can't?
Blaziken is known for kicking/tremendous leg strength and yet their fists are on fire.

>>27595871
You realize the belt is literally fire right?

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Defend this. Whats the point of the flames coming out of the fiists when it could just breathe fire out its belt?

>>27595908
It looks like fur, but I don't deny the fact that it can light up in flames for added effect. I just don't think it's for sucker punching. It's just a belt, and shooting fire out of a belt is still dumb.

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Gonna call my Litten3 Yuuga.

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>>27592946
>breathe fire out its mouth?

where is it written that it can breath fire from its mouth?

Even Litten does not breath fire from its mouth.

It spits flame hair balls after it swallows hair. meaning the hair ball has to go to the stomach first. this evo makes perfect sense because now it can just shoot the fire directly from the source instead of dropping hair ball down there to then spit out.

>>27595901
It defeats the purpose of having a belt that projects fire if it could just make fire come out of any other area. Like the mouth or the hands. Even braxians wand makes more sence.

What does the bellybutton represent in chakras?

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>>27595935
Muh Nigga

>>27595966
The sacral chakra.

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>>27595949
The concept art has it spitting green fire from its mouth, possibly based on asian mist

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Defend this. Whats the point of flames coming out of its wand when it could just breathe fire?

>>27595930
It's fur that's on fire, so naturally it'd use that ability to attack people. The lore of litten is it's fur is oily so it used flaming hairballs. It makes sense that eventually the fur itself caught fire naturally.

In the concept art it's shown to be used to boil water even when it's asleep, so clearly it's always emitting heat.

Most likely sneak attacks since it's unexpected IE their guard is down. Like you said yourself, you wouldn't normally expect fire to shoot out of a belt.

>>27595991(You)

>>27595985
In what way does that look like fire? It looks more like a liquid than anything else.

>>27595998
>Most likely sneak attacks
>Most likely

No basis for that at all, so saying "most likely" is a stretch

>>27596015

Let me break it down for you

That green mist is an illegal move in actual wrestling, Litten3 spits green fire, because it imitates the green mist in real wrestling

>>27596015

>The concept art has it spitting green fire from its mouth, possibly based on asian mist
>possibly based on asian mist
>based on asian mist
>based on
It doesn't LITERALLY have to be the exact same.

>>27596035
The basis is that it's a heel. Why wouldn't a heel use underhanded tactics?

>>27596050
No, it spits green mist because it imitates the green mist in real wrestling.

>>27596050
>>27596053
I'm saying the concept art doesn't look like fire

>>27596060
I'm starting to repeat myself so I'm going to assume you're someone who just entered the thread.

Yes it can be based on a heel figher, but booby-trapped belts aren't a thing unless GF made it up. The green mist makes sense because that actually exists in wrestling,

>>27595823
I find myself dealing with them more and more often recently. It's always nice to atleast have the numbers advantage over one of them, though. Usually there's a few of them mass shitposting.

>>27595871
The belt in this design is fire. Whatever about speculation of it being Litten's third stage or even a real Pokemon - leave all of that out.

I watch a lot of pro wrestling from pretty much every country that pro wrestling is produced in because it's a huge and amazing resource for learning storytelling techniques so I know the tropes and know what I'm talking about, friend.

Heels use underhanded tactics like foreign objects or hidden tricks like the poison mist. I don't watch deathmatch wrestling, but fire is pretty common in that and throwing fireballs is a pretty long-running villainous wrestler trope. So is using the belt as a weapon. So is the flower thing. It's a combo of all of them.

Your argument is as sound as asking why Vileplume has a face since flowers don't have faces.

>>27592946
That belt thing is kind of, I don't know, odd. I don't think this idea is something that will appear in the actual media.

>>27596070
>I'm saying the concept art doesn't look like fire

Alright that makes more sense, I think it looks like fire but that's just me and the other guy possibly.

>>27596095

It might be something that it can turn on or off, like the Cyndaquil line and their back flames.

>>27595955
Fire pokémon can make fire come out of anywhere on their body. How do you think Charizard uses Fire Punch?
Hawk a flaming loogie and punch?

>>27596086
>unless GF made it up
But that never happens! Pokemon is 100% grounded in reality!

>>27596086
>but booby-trapped belts aren't a thing unless GF made it up

Flaming kittens aren't a thing either, but GF managed to think that up.

>>27596117
Even at that, and while I can't think of an actual example, I'd bet money that someone's used a booby-trapped belt before. Especially in the UK, Mexico or Japan.

>>27596086
But whats wrong with GF making up booby-trapped belts, presuming it's never been done, when it feels entirely plausible for an asshole to do?

>>27596117
>Flaming kittens aren't a thing
But they are

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>>27596089
>So is using the belt as a weapon

Okay wrestling expert, so show me. Pull up some images or media of the weaponized fire belt because that's what we have been arguing about the entire thread. If that was the case, you could have shut me down immediately but you haven't, so I'll wait for your proof, Wrestling Expert.

>>27596179
Most of are arguing it's perfectly fine, despite not being an actual thing.

Have you not been paying attention?

>>27596179
>despite what you wrote, I'll demand a belt shooting fire specifically anyway because I have autism and can't comprehend simple concepts
Just go watch some DDT pro or something, fucking hell, you'll get the zany story-telling motif then.

>>27596203
>>27596209
>"I don't have anything"

Thanks for playing.

The belt is just an extension of Litten's use of fur for fire attacks

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>>27592984

>>27596226
>I don't have an argument so I'll pretend I somehow win a contest I made up
You're only fooling yourself, faglord. I told you the best example of a wrestling promotion that does the most outlandish stuff, too, so you've nothing to complain about.
Here, I'll link you the OG Tiger Mask vs the OG Black Tiger and all. Do your research if you're going to try to argue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Ly9RKqUDo

>>27596114
So if any fire type can make any part of thier body on fire. And littens motif is licking its fur and igniting it hows do that transition into have a flaming belt that shoots fire? I know some evolution lines dont make sence and a lot change compeletly ways. Its just that litten3 doesnt keep any similarities litten had and it makes me angry.

>>27592946
To trick Pokemon
Say it's fighting up close, it can just shoot fire out of its waist to have a surprise attack

>>27593237
>I'm so right and smarter than everyone else give me my award
Even if you win the retarded award, you still are retarded sempai desu. End your pathetic existence. Lelellelelelelelel

>>27596226
You actually are fucking retarded.

1. This isn't actually a belt, it's fur that's on fire
2. No, there aren't belts made of fire in real life
3. Why does it fucking matter if there is actual belts made of fire in real life?
4. Seriously, how does this impact Litbro's usage of one in any way?

>>27596284

It's not an actual belt, it's fur at the waistline that looks like a belt

>>27596274
You said booby-trapped belts are thing, so fine. Show me a picture or video of whatever of a booby-trapped belt since *you claimed* it's a thing. So I'll wait. Your video is irrelevant so it just goes back to you posting random shit at an attempt to look like you actually know shit (which you don't)

Again, show me a picture or video or whatever of a booby-trapped belt, doesn't have to be fire, if that'll help you.

>>27596301
Ok but first you have to explain why you think this is a good design.

>>27596284
>And littens motif is licking its fur and igniting it hows do that transition into have a flaming belt that shoots fire?

http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/litten/

>Its fur is rich in oils and immensely flammable. Litten grooms itself by licking its fur, and then uses the collected fur as fuel for fireball attacks!

>Flammable fur

It no longer needs to swallow fur, it can just shoot fire directly from the source.

>>27596321
Thats really fucking stupid because litten has fur that stands up on its back during its attack animation. How does that become a belt?

>>27596339
No yeah you are autistic, nobody in this thread has stated there has been literal booby-trapped belts.

We've been saying it's a completely plausible motif for a fire based tiger wrestler to incorporate, and fits thematically with the heel motif.

>>27596339
>You said booby-trapped belts are thing
No I didn't. I wrote that there more than likely have been some in the past and I don't know of any. It's far to obvious a trick to not have been used.
Why do you demand it be something that already happened anyway? If Tomorrow's G1 show has Toru Yano shoot fire out of his title belt will you suddenly change your mind? How would that change anything? You're an idiot.

>>27595664

Have you seen wrestlers clash hand and hand? That's the perfect time to use that. It's also the perfect chance to use the Asian Mist.

>>27596380
Look at how that fur looks like when it stands up, and look at the belt.

>>27596369
So that just means it looks like a wrestler just for the sake of being a ranged attacker. Well done gamefreak you fucked it up.

>>27596380
The belt flames stand up when it attacks. Also, Litten's back fur has been burned off so it cant stand up.

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>>27596381
>>27596388
>throwing fireballs is a pretty long-running villainous wrestler trope. So is using the belt as a weapon
>So is using the belt as a weapon
>So is using the belt as a weapon
>So is using the belt as a weapon

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>>27596339
Not necessarily a belt but a similar idea.

>>27596410
>ranged attacker
>ranged attacker
>ranged attacker

Are you retarded? It's using fire spin at close range/

>>27596432
He said it was a wrestling maneuver used in actual matches.

>>27596424
>using the belt as a weapon and shooting fireballs are the same thing
No. Heels hit faces with the belt all the time. I couldn't have explained that nay clearer. You're an actual idiot.

>>27592946
It looks cool. Go fuck yourself, weenie.

>>27596433
Fire spin is a ranged special move

>>27596113
It sorta reminds me of one of those crotch lasers in certain anime and Western animation.

>>27596424
You realize you can use the belt as a weapon without it being booby trapped right?

Litbro just happens to have his built in a way it can be used as though it was booby trapped. Its not like he can remove the belt and bash a guy's head in given it's actually part of it's body.

>>27596470
Nice defending

>>27596456
Still a booby-trapped belt thing.

>>27596477
Yeah but its damage isn't based on special attack, it's 1/16 or 1/8 per turn.

>>27596458
Stay focused. You said it was a trope with fireball shooters, I am not denying fire ball shooting, the claim that you made about the belts was attached to the sentence before.

>Heels hit faces with the belt all the time
Show me this then. You're a "wrestling expert" so show me a belt, being used as a weapon, that's what I'm asking, you're running in circles.

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>>27596526
He was saying it combines multiple tropes into one.

>>27596568
Thanks guy. Someone who probably doesn't claim to be a "Wrestling expert" posted what I've been asking him to show me for the past hour or so. Astounding.

Litten 3 can't remove his belt but whatever, I don't think the fire shooting is his underhanded attack, so to speak.

>>27596477
Just because it can learn a special move doesn't make it a special attacker. Like, just because a wrestler spits mist doesn't mean his main offense is spitting.

>>27596526
someone else just did. It's the most common trick and heel champions do it all the time to get disqualified because you can't lose the title through a disqualification.
Fireballs happen in deathmatch wrestling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j9AM4O4oOc

>>27596630
Again, I never denied fireballs. If Litten3 did that I wouldn't think it's dumb, belt flames are dumb.

>>27596650
I literally linked you a video of someone throwing a fireball from his belt, fuck off.

>>27596666
You are a special kind of stupid anon.

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Why is its belt so out of place it would look much better without it.

>>27596666
You're retarded.
1. I know that wrestlers throw fireballs, I've said this numerous times,
2. He did not throw a fireball from his belt, are we watching the same video?

>>27596598
I can't for the life of me understand why you needed photographic evidence of a heel hitting someone with the title belt.

Nor needed it spoon fed to you to the point you hounded that guy for a half hour.

But I highly suspect you have high grade autism.

>>27596675
>>27596702
He very literally and clearly reached into his belt, grabbed whatever his trick item was, ignited it off of the belt and threw it. That's as close to fire from a belt as it gets. Do you want real magic fire belts or something?
Like, there's a pro wrestler who is a blow up doll. There was a pro wrestler who was an imaginary invisible man who was beaten/killed in a KO decision after being shot with an invisible ray gun. There's literally no discussion to be had. The point is long proven at this stage.

>>27596745
He who makes the claim has the burden of proof :)

Anybody who isn't mentally handicapped knows that. So thanks again for proving your idiocy.

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>>27596702
Dude you can't do that, just call Satan retarded an shit.

>>27596780
No yeah you are autistic.

If I said babies cried, would you require me to post a picture of a baby crying to believe me?

You literally hounded a person for proof that one man can in fact hit another man with an item.

>>27596810
>>27596666
Satanic quads confirm, fire belts are great.

>>27596825
Nice try. I'm not asking for proof that babies cry. I'm asking a so-called "wrestling expert" for proof that wrestlers have shot fire out of their belts in some way shape or form.

You're probably the same fag bitching at me lel

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>Not remembering the episode where Charizard finally decided to listen to Ash

Also, if you imagine Tony to be a grappler, it's much more useful to have the fire from it's belt. It's pretty cool actually.

>>27596274
>DDT does the most outlandish stuff
What about CHIKARA?

>>27596888
Chikara's more US cartoon/Kamen RIder. It's more outlandish across the board, but DDT pushes harder when it does the silly stuff.
Also, Quack is a bit of a dick and I love DDT

>>27596851
No I'm the guy calling you autistic.
And you are very autistic.
This is weaponized levels of autism.
This is chris-chan levels of autism.

Still not convinced to think this is a good creative design.

You niggers will just think anything Gamefreak shits out is good quality.

>>27596941
I'm the guy who's been baited/baiting the autist who can't google "wrestle hits wrestler with belt".
I think the concept is fine for a Pokemon in general, but I don't see it being Litten's final stage. I'm under the impression it's an early idea and it's going to be some midgame thing. It needs a bit of polish too - he doesn't even have his cape, like come on.

>>27596910
Fair enough.

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>>27596935

>Guy who considers himself to be an expert makes a claim
>Ask him to back his claim because I can't find anything on his supposed claim, after all he's an expert so he should be able to pinpoint more specific things easier than I can
>He can't do it
>Somehow it's my fault

It's a pretty straightforward concept and you're acting like I burned his house down lmao

>>27596980
>asks for something
>is told where to find it
>demands to be spoonfed
>is given proof of belts as weapons and fire from a belt as well
>claims it never happened despite it being in this thread
(you)

>>27596980
>you couldn't find that image

I found my image in the first google image search.

More to the point, you needed to be spoon feed an image of a human hitting another human with a specific item, to believe someone had hit another human with that item.

I ain't acting like you burned his house down, I'm acting like you shat your pants in public, and were trying to pass it off on someone else.

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>>27597006

Proofing your assertion isn't "spoonfeeding". That's the logic your dumb ass uses when you make shit up and someone tells you to vet your claim.

Don't go to law school because you'd get laughed out of the vicinity, dumbass.

>>27597026
YOU NEEDED PROOF OF A MAN HITTING ANOTHER MAN WITH A BELT.

IN WRESTLING.

Next you'll ask for proof of a man using a gun on a battlefield.

>>27596179
https://youtu.be/981qE9GWpsQ?t=370
yard tard bullshit, but this thing is hard to search for. most results will lead to fire pro wrestling (video game)

>>27596980
>can't find anything on his supposed claim
>if you google "wrestling belt used as weapon" there's a picture of it as the first result
Are you actually retarded?

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>>27597048
I asked proof of a fire belt but lowered to something easier so he can do it

>>27597026
You made a claim, you were told you were wrong and it's up to you to back your own claims up. You claimed it didn't exist, you need to prove that, not me.

>Bodybuilders don't have 4 arms, Machamp is bad now give me pictures of four armed pro bodybuilders right now
That's my impression of you.

>>27597064
You are so desperate to not appear like the biggest retard in this thread, but you keep digging your grave pal.

>>27597064
He never said there was fire belts in wrestling, he said the design probably came from a combination of several different tropes in wrestling; if you had any reading comprehension you would have realized this.

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>>27597089
>"y-you're digging your grave. p-pal!"
Thanks for the laugh

>>27597082
I claimed for the absence of his assertion, akin to "there isn't a fire belt, I can't find anything on it", he claimed to the contrary, that it DID exist, and he couldn't do that after I asked him for it. Get it?

>>27597118
The retards on full damage control, and failing spectacularly.

>>27597108
And even at that, I got him a video of El Mesias (a.k.a. Mil Muertes) throwing a fireball at Raven from his belt buckle in a wrestling match, which I found by googling.

>>27597135
>no argument

I rest my face

>>27597151
*case
whoops lel

>>27597151
Oh I get it, now he's trying to pass it off as just pretending to be retarded.

To bad he's too retarded to even pull that off.

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>>27597184
>pretending to be retarded

Whatever helps you sleep at night

This is just one of those deals where some sperglord tries to discredit something, gets disproven and tries to pass himself off as an ebin troll to save face, despite this all being anonymous. Being a poisonous cunt is bad for you, you're obviously a pathetic shitter in real life and you probably feel you're getting some sort of win despite being absolutely BTFO. I guess losers like you need this shit, but you're really ruining these threads. This website is for discussions, try not to shitpost and spout hot opinions and when you're wrong just admit it. It's not like you're going to get detention or some shit, faglord.

>>27597286
>Projecting
Never disproved my fire belt claim of it not really existing.No matter how many times you kick and scream, it won't change that fact.
The guy's YouTube video was the closest it can be, in which he lit a match or something using his belt

>>27597309
It's not possible for a sane human being to actually think there are belts made of fire that you can will fire spins out of. You're literally retarded. I'm going to bed.

>>27597368
>belts made of fire
Never said that. but a belt with some sort of flaming or flammable material on the belt buckle wouldn't be far fetched and would work.

Good night, try not to shit the bed.

>>27597309
Please disprove my claim that animals that shoot fire out of their mouths don't really exist.

>>27597409
> animals that shoot fire out of their mouths don't really exist

Never made that claim nor did I ever critique it, nice bait, but I'm not biting.

>>27597445
Well if both don't exist, what is the problem with Pokemon shooting fire out of either?

>>27597466
All I said was that it is a silly concept in of itself, shooting a spiral flame out of a belt, but his argument was "HEELFIGHTER!" as if that all of a sudden made the design make sense then he claimed that fire belts (in some way, shape, or form) were actual moves or concepts in real-life wrestling

Hope that makes sense.

>>27597532
Pokemon is full of silly concepts, they probably made it have a belt because wrestlers fight to win belts and it would make sense for the final evolution to have a belt, and they probably made the belt shoot fire because they thought it'd be cool. Who cares, it's Pokemon, not real life.

>>27597532
>>27597632
Also, his original claim was
>throwing fireballs is a pretty long-running villainous wrestler trope. So is using the belt as a weapon. So is the flower thing. It's a combo of all of them.
>it's a combo of all of them.
He never claimed belts shot fire, he claimed that specifically the final evolution of Litten's belt shot fire because of those three tropes.