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THEN

>It's clearly fake because of the Confidential symbol is in English

>It's clearly fake because it doesn't follow the "obvious" circus theme

>It's clearly fake because Litten will be quadrupedal

>It's clearly fake because GF wouldn't make another bipedal fire starter

>It's clearly fake because Popplio3 is too feminine and boys will hate it

NOW

>It's clearly fake because that's a generic Hawaiian girl that loves to cook with the same generic design as Mallow

>It's clearly fake since it's obvious somebody saw the art for Mallow and decided to troll /vp/ by putting her in only 1 reference sheet months before the reveal

>It's clearly a scrapped design and the real starters will be a quadrupedal fire tiger, a fat masculine clown sea lion, and a generic owl with a tie

SINCE THE START

>It's clearly fake because I don't like the design
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Thank you for your quality contribution to the board.
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>>27585228
No need to thank me I just enjoy making /vp/ better one thread at a time.
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>>27585218
I'm a boy and I like it
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>>27585218
Legit this. People that denial like brainless dummies without even looking at the evidence and being as stiff as a telephone poll are just the worst.
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>>27585249
I, too, am male

However, I very much dislike this

I wanted goofy sea lion

Not a gay merman
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>>27585249
Me too
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>>27585265
>gay merman
>man
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>>27585218
>Generic owl with a tie
Wow how boring, I hope it's not that as it sounds like an outright downgrade from the Rowcher we have in the leaks.
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>>27585218
For THEN, you left out the fact that there was zero solid proof, other than the artstyle itself. I was a denialfag until Mallow got revealed, but I didn't use the stupid arguments presented here.
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>>27585533
The worst one is the "leaker added Mallow to the fakes to trick Pokemon fans" theory. It's literally the dumbest shit I have ever heard but people post it here like it makes sense. The only part I think is credible is perhaps the designs are old concepts but even then this looks like reference art so I doubt it.
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>>27585356
Yeah this. People post their preferred evos and it's always predictable garbage like my mom's green owl with a bow tie.
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>>27585313
>87.5%
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>>27585679
Not that anon, but...
>Not restarting till you get a female

And besides that those gender percentages are left overs from the days when they wanted to make breeding for starters and other rare Pokemon hard.

Just like Nidoqueen's inability to breed, Game Freak are just too lazy to fix that.
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>>27585679
>Most are male, so that means all of them are male!
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>>27585663
As opposed to actual garbage like a humanoid owl with bright orange glasses?
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>>27585952
>humanoid
Sounds like you need some glasses
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>>27585218
I'll say this every time.
Most people being in full on, 100% denial are just baiting. Most of us who denied it before have accepted it, because how can you argue against Mallow without reaching?
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>>27585715
What if I want a male Popplio?
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People who hate these designs will seriously come up with ANYTHING to convince themselves these aren't real. It's pathetic
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>>27585218
It was real but was one of the conceot arts we had. We were going to release the game with a similalir design just minor diffrrences. But we decided it be best to just change everything.
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It's funny, I thought this would be over and people would be packing their bags by the time these got confirmed, but instead we got the butthurt and denial cranked up to 11.

I love it.
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>>27586338
I wonder if gen 8 is going to be the same thing all over again.
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>>27586338
Maybe because it's the shittiest final evo of all pokemon games.
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One of the sillier arguments was "disarming voice doesn't mean anything." Either they'd say "muh patterns" or "duh it's a seal it goes ARF ARF!" They couldn't see that Disarming Voice is the kind of move that has way more implications than a widely distributed move like Bite or Rollout. Not only is Disarming Voice a rare move, only cutesy and/or fairy type Pokemon learn it by leveling up (the natural way). It implies this Pokemon has a pleasing and soothing voice. Sirens/mermaids are known for their beautiful singing, so this fits.

And then the insistence of demanding to know why a sea lion evolves into a mermaid. Game Freak has probably wanted to do a mermaid Pokemon for a while, and a sea lion is a totally suitable choice. Sea lions already look like they have mermaid tails, so the designers were able to create a mermaid Pokemon that's distinctly mermaid and still retains sea lion features.

People saying it's too feminine act as if Chikorita and Braixen didn't exist. Besides, we've seen male Gardevoir, male Gothitelle, female Machamp, female Conkeldurr, female Mr. Mime, male Bellossom, and the list goes on. We shouldn't be surprised.

People arguing that it doesn't fit the circus theme. First, the circus theme was fanmade headcanon. It was never confirmed that Game Freak was going to keep it that way. Even so, mermaids have been known to be associated with circus sideshows and freak shows, so there's that. Even then, both circus clowns and singing mermaids/sirens can be seen as different types of performers. They're both performers nevertheless.

I read some arguments saying its hair is too human-like. Mega Ampharos pretty much has supermodel hair. Look at Zoroark. He's got a long, fabulous ponytail. There's plenty of Pokemon that have some type of hair: Pidgeot, Vulpix, Blaziken, Meloetta, Jynx, Gardevoir, Suicune, female Pyroar, and even Bouffalant looks like it's sporting an afro. It may not technically be hair, but it's designed to resemble hair.
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>>27586903
Ugh sorry for the long rant. It's just been annoying trying to reason with people on this board and constantly be bombarded with "muh patterns!" or "ur gay die entermaid is faggy" or "u haev shit taste ballio is better".
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>>27585218
THEN
>It's fake because anyone can draw, there's no evidence it's readl
NOW
>It's real
SINCE THE START
>People have different opinions
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>>27586903

The sad thing is that there are people still using most of these "arguments".
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>>27586995
People just don't want them to be real so they make up whatever silly theories they can to justify their opposition. It's sad because at this point the only way they can't be real is if they are old concepts but the Chinese leak described them perfectly so even if they changed their designs are still similar.
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>>27585928
>A small amount are female, so they should all be called female!
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>>27587027
I know

I can't believe people dislike what I like
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>>27585249
>>27585265
>>27585663
>>27586273
>>27586970
/vp/ is full of gays these days
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>>27587112

That wasn't the point I was making at all.
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>>27587112
It's not about liking or disliking it's about not being purposely dumb and making random rules about what a Pokemon is supposed to look like.
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>>27585952
Yet that evo is the best fake out of the three
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>>27585218

>It's clearly fake because Popplio3 is too feminine and boys will hate it

There are 3 kinds of people that'll buy SM:

little kids
Nostalgia grown ups
furfags

little kids will buy it because pikachu and cat looks kewl

grown ups will buy it because they just want to play some fucking pokemon

furfags will buy it because new waifu


how is that not pampering to it's audience?
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>>27587193
>fake
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>>27587261
How are they going to sell toys of this thing?
What boy would want one?
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>>27587027
Thanks for responding to my crazy long post lol. Yeah, I still see people use these arguments. I'm close to the point where I don't care about helping others see why this design is possible and logical. I'm just gonna wait for the games to come out and happily pick Popplio as my starter.
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>>27585240
Good job op.
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>>27587451

Same. Can't wait to see Poppmaid in action.
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>>27587033
Exactly, and these concept leaks look like anime reference sheets that are meant to help the animators. I'd say these are finalized, but even if they were changed, it'd be just by a bit.
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>>27586995
>ugh
>likes shitmaid

Unironically go back to /mlp/ you inbred.
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>>27587388
Pokemon is one of the few franchises that have a 50:50 gender split. People are going to buy it no doubt, just look at all the Sylveon merch from last gen.
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>>27587112
You're absolutely free to dislike them. Nobody is trying to force you to like them. We're just trying to reason with others about how Entermaid and the others are perfectly legitimate Pokemon.

Disliking them is one thing. But refusing to accept solid evidence and reasoning is being close-minded.

Ugh why am I even responding to this
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>>27587542
>pokemon has a 50:50 gender split

you're a retard, knowing about the franchise =/= buying merch

literally no girl plays pokemon and when they do they're definetely fewer than boys
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>>27587388

furfags will.
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>>27587532
>tripfag

opinion discarded
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>>27587165
>>27587532
(You)
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>>27586903
Saved this whole thing
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>>27587388
Didn't you see the anon that watched Bratz as a kid yesterday? Kids aren't as restricted as they were in the 80s and 90s.
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>>27586011
you will have a trap popplio
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>>27585218
Stop shoving it in our faces we know their real. We don't need these threads every few hours
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>>27587497
100% pokewaifu matherial
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>>27588138
The hide thread button exists
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>>27588138
DENIALFAG SALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>27588138
While I agree this is really uneccessary, there's like 20% of /vp/ thinking that these are legitimately not real. I want to stop with these threads, otherwise these guys will be hated more than goodra.
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You guys know denialfags are literally false flagging?

There is no denying that the starters are real at this point and this is coming from a pre-Mallow denialfag
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>>27588179
>>27588181
Its because of people like you that there are shitposters rampantly claiming these are fake. If you'd stop they'd calm down after a while
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>>27588197
They are already hated on every international site for dumb reasons with people calling them the worst starters ever so I really don't see how it can get worse for them.
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>>27585265
I want you to learn proper English and stop spamming these boards because you don't like something
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>>27588258
The only reason I even paid attention to this designs again after the first time I looked at them was because they started to be spammed by people trying to prove they were fake so it's their own fault.
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>>27588273

Happens every generation with the starters. Once the games are out for a couple of months or so, most people either will get over them or grow to like them. Only a few diehards who can't move on with their lives will still be up in arms about them in the long run. But I would just ignore those drama queens.
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>>27585240
Insult to Legend X being used to defend this horrible design
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>>27587165
We own the board, keep crying
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>>27588362
There's also the people who legitimately don't like them, but they generally don't go ranting about it, I hope.

>>27588386
There was a poll done a while ago where 1100 people voted about their sexuality and 50% voted straight, so no.

To make matters worse, 30% voted bi, only like 15% voted gay.
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>>27588369

Shut up, crybaby.
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>>27588369
I'm more of a Brit fan anyway but Xtina has better gifs
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>>27588404
What was the other 15% tho. And half the population being LGBT is excellent desu
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>>27587080
>/vp/ is one person!
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>>27588471
Asexual, and I'm not saying they aren't just that you don't run shit
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>>27588362
I hope so, I liked them from the first time I saw them and didn't expect the negative response. Although I wish Rowlet went more of the majestic Blaziken or Empoleon path with his design instead of looking like the final evo of an late game bird.
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Are they real or not? If they are im going with poppmaid and if theyre not im going with litten
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>>27585218
>>It's clearly a scrapped design and the real starters will be a quadrupedal fire tiger, a fat masculine clown sea lion, and a generic owl with a tie

The real evolutions can be anything, we won't know for sure until they are officially revealed. We're not Gamefreak we don't know exactly how they do things, and while I highly believe these are real, I'm not giving my opinion or attention because while they can be real, they can also be scrapped concepts and whatever opinion I make of these concepts would be out of the window and possibly upset me when the real ones are officially revealed. Not being a denial fag, just being smart and not setting myself up for possible disappointment
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>>27589128
They're all but confirmed real, people are just stubborn due to not liking the designs.
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>>27588501
Threatened over nothing much
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>>27585218

I like it, only because I want to fuck it.
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>>27590579
>Threatened over nothing much
What do you mean? I never implied threats of any kind.
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I like them about as much as the gen 6 starters.
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>>27590557
Sperg sporg
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Reminder that anyone who likes Baracat is a degenerate furry and part of the reason this is the worst board on 4chan
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>>27586903
This is pure, unfettered autism.
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>>27593097
Reminder that this isn't a valid argument

>>27593137
Because you don't agree with it?
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>>27593149
>Isn't a valid argument

If I have to explain why furbait is a bad thing then you're beyond hope
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>>27593221
The fact you think its furbait and that insulting a fanbase is a valid argument means you're everything wrong with /vp/
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>>27593243
It's obviously furbait you genuine retard.

>insulting furries is bad!11!!
/vp/ would be infinitely better without furries and pokephiles.
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>>27593281
>It's obviously furbait you genuine retard.
Because everything that isn't litterally my mom's animal is furshit right? or do muscles make everything furbait? You're an obtuse fuck either way

>/vp/ would be infinitely better without furries and pokephiles
I never implied it wouldn't be, just that you're an idiot for thinking insults are valid arguments
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>>27593330
Barafags have been the most hilarious thing on this board recently. They get this worked up over their new porn source
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>>27593390
>insults as arguments
If you don't actually say anything that conts as a point, you're just solidifying the fact you're wrong and just baselessly attempting to not seem so.
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>>27593453
>he is aroused by drawings of animals
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>>27593496
>he uses insults are arguments
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>>27593513
>He spends his time defending his animal fetish on a Vietnamese basket weaving forum
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>>27593549
>he refuses to give a damn about defending a point and uses insults as arguments
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>>27593574
>he unironically gains pleasure from sexualising make-believe animals
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>>27593574
>>27593513
>>27593453
>He continues to not only take the bait, but posts the exact same response each time.
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>>27593729
>he unironically gains pleasure from baiting
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>>27593807
>He will furiously respond with conviction to the slightest bait because he will defend his degeneracy to the death
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>>27593807
>>27593963
Both of you shut up and accept you'll both die before the age of 30
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>>27593807
>he responds for me, removing the point I was trying to make

>>27593729
>>27593963
>he will not stop using insults as possible arguments
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