Post infinitely better fake evolution art.

>>27575098
looks too fakemony

>>27575098
it just gets bigger

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This one is the only good Litten's evo.

>>27575141
This

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>Tylocaust

>>27575116
yet another fire/fighting

>>27575162
Ballio and CannonPanther are shit designs.

Owltair is the only decent one.

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>>27575141
>>27575098

mfw this will never be reality

>>27575229
Moere interesting than just getting bigger.

At least it will have people talking.

>>27575141
This looks like fucking DeviantArt

>>27575098

You start OP.

>>27575229
>it isn't Fire/dark because of the nature of dirty wrestlers and dark is evil type in the Japens
Shit bait

>>27575292
>Implying that makes it any less bland and repetitive

>>27575098

all we know: holocaust is a fake

so, this pokemon based in the holocaust, its fake too

>>27575116
>It just stands up>>27575141

>>27575141
It's the most visually boring of any fake Litten evo I've seen. I can't understand why people like this so much aside from solely the fact that it's on 4 legs

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>>27575098
>Tylocaust
That's the dumdbest name I ever seen.

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>>27575098
>>27575141
Why do so many people want Litten's evo to stay on all fours? Wasn't that one of the main problems with Samurott?

>>27575322
>implying you're intelligent or make any good points
Cry more

i'm not crazy about the actual design but yall delusional.

>>27575141
it hardly even looks like a pokemon. it's so sleak and minimalist...it's just an actual panther with different coloring. all those random pictures of guns and volcanos don't help.

>>27575098
zero personality

>Tylocaust
even edgier than ballio and I didn't think that was possible

>>27575373

>Samurott's previous evo's were on 2 legs
>Final evo on 4

>Litten is on 4 legs

HMMMMMMMMMM

>>27575349
Because the idea of it being a cannon is neat, and it ties into that circus theme and the sulfur symbol.

It's a simple design with a cool concept. I don't see how its bad.

>>27575412
The pictures of cannons and gunpowder are for the benefit of people who couldn't figure out the concept.

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>>27575257
>tfw Wresltercat will be real
>tfw "two different starter final evos" was a blatant lie to get our hopes up

>>27575356
where was this from?
I remember it's an old cringy gaming promo video that also had a celebrity in it but I don't remember much else

>>27575438
When in gods name did anyone officially announce the starters are circus themed? The only one remotely circus like is popplio

>>27575487
>tfw even if "two different starter final evos" is legit, the other Litten evo will probably just be another wrestler, but with a different theme

>>27575478
shouldn't the inspiration for the pokemon be apparent when looking at it? isn't that the point?

>>27575509
I didn't say it was official, just meant to imply that some people thought there would be a circus theme, and that's probably why some people like it.

Personally, I prefer it for being a nixe , simple design and the alchemy elements.

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>>27575373
The problem with Samurott is that it is capable of both being bipedal and quadrupedal in nature, though it is more fitted for the quad aspect.

Litten being quadrupedal in nature and then becoming bipedal in nature is fucking retarded, just like Tepig to Emboar, Zorua to Zoroark and Fennekin to Delphox is fucking retarded.

>>27575552
It is apparent, though not quite as blatant as the lucha tiger.

>>27575427
Same thing happened to Swampert and no one really hates on that pokémon.

>>27575555
Checked

>>27575497
copy that :^ )

>>27575565
>>27575570
>>27575577
>>27575578

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>>27575114
> too fakemony

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>>27575098

>>27575497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80kDRoso_X8

copy that

>>27575497
EB game add for COD
COPY THAT

>>27575263
Nah

>>27575605
looks like I was thinking of something else
thanks tho

>>27575640
>fire fur better than typhlosion
yes please

>>27575373
The main problem I have with the Samurott line is that its samurai theme it got going for itself feels out of place and how it came from nowhere. Especially for an otter.

>>27575555
Quads of truth confirm

>>27575239
>>27575415
ballio is a god tier pokemon design, literally the best water starter since gen 2. kill yourselves fucking idiots

>>27575605
>>27575652
>>27575654
looks like I got my memes mixed up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=441yNVdmVU4

>>27575732
Ballio was designed for ow the edge and is dumb as fuck.

Swampert, Empoleon, and Samurott are a lot better than it.

I've never really liked greninja but I don't hate him.

>>27575640
> Lava vomit

>>27575565
So are you against all pokémon of that sort like Lotad and Mareep?

We have this cycle every fucking gen

You guys will get over it eventually

>>27575732
Are you actually autistic or is this bait? I very much hope this is bait

>>27575759
>So are you against all Pokemon of that sort oike Lotad and Mareep?

Mareep is more of an outlier, since it doesn't gain clear bipedal features (long lanky arms, human-shaped body structure) when it evolves.

Lotad to Ludicolo is also pretty weird. I like Ludicolo just on principle of Mirror B. making it popular, but at the same time, it was more of a gradual evolution in the Lotad line. (See: Lombre)

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>>27575770
i have autism but thats beyond the point, you cant get into your thick skull tha ballio is both real and one of if not the greatest pokemon designs of all time

>>27575843
And if Litten's middle form is a lanky cat who looks like they can do both quad/bipedal movement?

>>27575934
>ballio
>real
>good

>>27575970
Then it'd still have some issues with randomly becoming machamp.

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>>27575970

>>27575782
I like this Popplio one a lot. Like it'd be my favorite final water starter form.

>>27576095
It seems entirely unrelated to popplio though

>>27576106
Because furbait maid is though right? Or baracat is for cannonball themed litten? That form looks like a clever play off the word sea lion. Plus the fancy attire for the circus theme is a nice touch.

>>27576144
Don't get me wrong the litten evo is retarded, but a sea lion turning into a mermaid makes 100% sense since that's where the myth of a mermaid came from in the first place.

>>27575782
>seal gets two legs for no reason
It somehow manages to be even worse than Poppmaid.

>>27576165
I wouldn't hate entermaid as much if it kept part of the circus theme. Since Gen 4 Gamefreak has liked their themed starters (Mythical people/animals, Ancient Nippon/Royalty, RPG classes, and gen 7 appeared to be Ringmaster, Circus Seal, and Lion that jumped through hoops/did tricks in that order/cannonjumper). What the leaked evos lack is what I mentioned before hand. It just feels lazy.

>>27576270
Yea but rowlett evo isn't really a ring master. It's just a "cool" looking archer.

Litten evo is sort of a strongman I guess, but that's kind of pushing it

>>27575552
No, allot of pokemon are like that.
Then people who didn't care much about them turn to love them when they learn of ti's design inspiration and elements.

>Hold shit this pokemon is lame
> Read it's Bulbapedia
>Origins and Trivia has interesting and in depth info about it that you never grasped.
>Holy shit this pokemon is cool.

Not ever pokemon is Spiderman in your face and shit.

>>27575934
Kek

>>27576270
>but circus theme!
Stop. It was never officially confirmed if it's the theme or not. We don't even have official word on if there's a starter theme this gen.

>>27576295
It feels like a very loose 'celebrity' theme with a trick archer, a pro wrestler, and a diva, but that doesn't feel right. Its like they brought Rowlett3 as an Archer left over from last round, threw in Poppmaid as a Bard, and the just tossed El tigre in there.

It certainly isn't as well defined as the last few sets.

>>27576325
>>Hold shit this pokemon is lame
>> Read it's Bulbapedia
>>Origins and Trivia has interesting and in depth info about it that you never grasped.
>>Holy shit this pokemon is cool.
vanilluxe.txt

>>27576335
Why wouldn't there be? i just stated it's been that way for a while now and game freak isn't too keen to break something that worked well for them the past few rounds.

>>27576350
If there is a theme I'd say it is just a continuation of gen 6 like you said.

Archer, Bard, and Fighter

Gen 6 was Knight/Paladin, Rouge/Ninja, and Wizard/Magician

>>27576378
Considering that Chesnaught and Delphox are universally reviled, I wouldn't be surprised if GF considered starter themes to be a failure and made future starters stand out on their own instead of together.

>>27576409
>Chesnaught reviled
Since when? Chesnaught is one of the best designs GF has made in years.

>>27576396
Eh Bards are lame.

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>>27576427

>>27576396
Fighter feels like a real stretch for Kitten 3, and Bard being before Cleric also feels odd.

>>27576409
>>27576427
>Delphox reviled
>Chesnaught NOT reviled
I don't know if you're stupid or trolling.

>>27576465
I don't know, there's no real defined archetype that's "evil puncher" and fighter/knight are usually really distinct.

>>27576396
Litten3 is probably a berserker or barbarian if the theme is just "Continuation of RPG Classes".

>>27576465
Well there is a very simple reason for that, no one likes playing the Cleric.... It would make for a pretty bland pokémon. High defenses and probably a ton of support moves but not much else.

>>27576505
Barbarian/berserker is better than fighter, thanks.

>>27576503
Are they? Even the original final fantasy had Paladin just be the advanced class of Fighter.

I'd say it might be a monk, but an angry wrestler is out of place for that.

I'm not saying its not what they were going for, just that it doesn't line up cleanly enough for me to buy it.

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>>27576454
>hating on chestnut amor wearing hedgehog that is a spiky wall
Literally perfection. It's everything I wanted ouf a grass type. It's new and breaks the standard grass type mold, but works really well on top of being inspired by my favorite RPG class.

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>>27576546
Well Berserker is a promotion of Fighter

>>27575640
I like these ones, although the names are god awful

>>27576582
Different =/= Good. Fuck off with your weak bait.

>>27576582
Its shit m8.

>>27576567
I never got far in the original FF but in most games I can think of there's a difference between sword+shield and fists (which can be either 'monk' or a guy going around punching things, which would with barbarian/berserker like in >>27576505 ).

Then they also have rouges/cutthroats, who are also similar.

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>>27575934

>>27576582
Maim things I dislike about chesnaught are the color scheme and it not getting a sword for leaf blade usage.

>>27576582
>Liking the downs pokemon
The only thing wrong with delphox is its stick neck.

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>>27576582
>being a grassfag
>also being an armourfag
Disgusting combination

>>27576396
I always looked at it as the brash jock, the reserved nerd and the popular girl.

>>27576605
who's this semen demon?

>>27576709
I'd guess Mariabel from Fire emblem awakening but it's not that close.

>>27576427
>>27576582
And Chesnaughtfags wonder why /vp/ hates them. Your incessant, unwanted and retarded defense of the most hated starter really gets on everyone's nerves.

>>27576709
Charlotte from fire emblem fates?

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>>27576709
>>27576746
Charlotte from Fire Emblem Fates, she gets a lot of mixed opinions about her default fighting outfit but I like her despite that and she's built to berserk

>>27576797
Oh right her.

I haven't played fates yet, so I didn't recognize her that well.

Ranger, Barbarian and Bard are usually base classes in RPGs, so these are fairly decent guesses if this gen's theme is, indeed, a continuation of the RPG Classes last gen.

Fighter, Rogue, Mage, Ranger, Barbarian and Bard sounds like a great archetypical tabletop RPG party too. I kinda want fanart of the six starters playing DnD, but I will have to wait until this batch is officially confirmed.

>>27575098
I really hope it turns out to be a sabretooth.

>>27576821
Fair enough man, just be prepared to have low expectations when it comes to the story though, its sad it drags gameplay down.

>>27576827
But anon, who will be the DM?

>>27576889
Isn't the story "what family do i choose!!!" and then kamui is secretly a SUPER magic dragon instead of just a dragon.

also the lobster dies i think

>>27576899
Maybe Rockruff's evolution, given that it shares a secret with Gen 7 starters.

Maybe Zoroark if they're playing Tomb of Horrors.

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>>27575711
The samurai idea from otters using rock's to break clamshells. Gamefreak was aware of the otter's use of their dexterous forelimbs.

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>>27576914
More or less, I wont post major spoilers but the premise of which side you choose feels really onesided, you'll see what I mean once it happens.

On the Conquest side, your characters really beta and would have died so many times if your siblings didn't defend you because you don't want to kill, even if it could have ended the war quicker.

If you went Birthright, you're perfectly fine with causing genocide to the opposing side for grorious Hoshido and you're patted on the back for killing filthy white piggus.

Last parts true too.

>>27576931
I think you are missing an opportunity here; you should have them face of with a Dragon-type.
It's an iconic fight scene in most fantasy tabletops, a massive fight between the party and a massive evil dragon!

>>27577170
>Charizard GM
>BBEG is Mega Charizard X

Sure.

>>27575640
Ow the edge

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>>27576582
>liking Shitnaught

>>27575633
>justifying fakemon design
>by pointing out how it already greatly resembles an existing design

>>27575640
Conflicting details. There's no common theme to the accents. It's gaudy, unintelligent tinsel.

>>27576218
>pokemon must 100% match their real world basis

I bet Mudkip triggers you

>>27576763
and yet you like Ballio of all things

>>27577632
Ballio is masterfully designed. Shitnaught is not.

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>>27577666
Ballio is an edgy deviantart tier design that turns a cute seal into a creepy clown. Chesnaught turned a cute warrior into a bigger, cuter warrior.

>>27577731
>Ballio is an awesome and sensible design that turns a cute seal into a cool clown. Chesnaught turned a cute warrior into pure shit
FTFY

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>>27577666
>

>>27575098
Tylocaust? c'monn nigga

>>27575141
I fucking hate it.

>>27576950
breaking clamshells does not equate samurai

>>27576582
Finally, someone else here who likes Chesnaught. I feel like there's only two of us on /vp/.

>>27578305
No, I like it too. Ignore the sperglords.

>>27577731
Ballio is god-tier. But I guess you can't expect anybody who likes Chesnaught to have good taste.

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>>27578016
Can you explain how implementing a concept of "weapon welders" isn't compatible to animals that can use objects like tools?

>>27577561
and going from a quiet-looking, cool and lithe cat to a bipedal bulky luchador has a common element?

>>27575141
FUCK YOU, ANON, WE'LL NEVER HAVE THIS! WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME?

>>27578305
make it three

>>27575141
Fakemon - Personality and theme over visual

Real Litten evo - Visual design overdone with no personality

>>27576582
Chestnaught fantard always come off to me as waifufags.
Same with anyone who defends Emboar. They just like it because it's a big obese thing that makes their little tic tac wiener hard for no discernible reason.

>>27575098
>Tylocaust
>Infinitely better
When will the "People actually like Tylocaust" meme end

>>27575640
Litten
Caufeuier
Feunerus
Good? >>27576616

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>>27579616
Yeah ok.

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>>27575098
>>27575141
I WANT THIS!

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>>27583345
>Carelessness and or levelheadedness are not personality traits.
>A look of solemn, sternness or contempt does not express character.
>Says it has no personality by noticing it's personality.

Yeah ok.

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>Tylocaust

There is no way that can be real.

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>>27583431
No, i made that picture because you say that the actual Litten3 has no personality, which is fucking retarded.

>>27583446
This fake evo is actually shit. Its head is way too big for its body, and looks more like a 1st stage evo than a final stage.

Also: the ring of fire is a fucking stupid idea

>>27575292
You have literally no reason to think that this is what it's supposed to be about.

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>This face when I just legitimately liked Pinnister's concept and the whole idea of a strongman acrobatic goofy sea lion clown that uses powerful water balloons to its advantage and doing all sorts of crazy circus stunts
>Didn't even find him scary or creepy at all, he looked as much of a trickster as Gengar
>Obviously turns out to be fake and will never be real much to my demise and anyone else's

fug

I hope the mermaid/siren/whatever can at least still do some acrobatics or keeps the balloon skills from Popplio instead of just sitting there and sing, otherwise, that's just potential thrown out the window and all she provides is fodder for elegant fan art with her doing nothing but sitting or standing there, occasionally singing and wavering her long hair everywhere. But all I see her doing in the concept art is making these tiny bubbles that barely even tries to impress or making a little wave splash.

we don't even know how the middle stage will even turn out

Lucha cat is okay, but I already had my share of Fire starters for the time being. Owl looks dope, but I hope it turns a little geeky and nerdy instead of becoming Swampert 2.0 in the animu.

>>27575098
>>27575141
They are shit. Real one is so much better.

>>27583570
>Wrote Swampert 2.0 instead of Sceptile 2.0

not sure how that happened