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Do you like your favorite Pokemon's shiny?

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Do you like your favorite Pokemon's shiny?
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It's gold, so sure
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>>27557798
no
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>>27557798
No, they make wild battles last longer because of the sparkles
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its alright
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There's not a ton of difference, honestly. It's even less noticeable in Gen 6.
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>>27557798
Well, does not change to much so it's pretty normal for me
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Not really, shiny Minccino is better.
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I love it
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Not really. I think the original colors are best.
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>>27557798
>Pink body: Could work
>Green wings: Could work
>Together: Shit teir
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>poliwhirl
Not really, barely looks different.

Anyone actually preffer regular colors of most pokemon then their shiny colors? Some shinies look great but most use ugly as fuck colors.
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>>27557798
I like it
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Not really.
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I like mine
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>>27558045
>With hust one arm
JUST
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It's aight. I dig the orange but not too keen on the green.
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Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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Itncould be worse. Teal is dope.
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>>27557923
I caught two shiny minccino and I've got to say I was disappointed with the evo.
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I dig it
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>>27558060
8/10 I chuckled
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>>27557907
I actually really like shiny shedinja. It's more angelic because of the whiter tint.
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>SILVER
>NINETALES

I dig it, I wonder how a shiny alola ninetales is gonna look like.
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No, but at least it's not green
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>>27558298
Top tier.
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>>27558328
Eevee is pretty fantastic too.
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Sure I do.
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>>27557798

Neutral about it.
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>>27557798
It looks a bit cooler but it's nothing amazing.
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>>27558328
>>27558393
Breeding for a Vulpix now, shiny Alola Vulpix is gonna be the first one I go for in SuMo
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>>27558298
Regular Ninetails but darker
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>>27558521
>Pink shells
Why?
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It's even better as a shiny.
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Not really.

>it just turns red and pink

They could have done something cooler with it.
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>>27558557
It should have made the sells silver and the body colour burgundy.
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As cancerous as Gardevoir's fanbase is, I don't think anyone can deny that it's shiny is pretty good, especially in Mega form.

I like my second favorite's as well, pink, gold, and blue shinies are almost always nice.
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Nothing special, but it's ok.
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>>27558605
*shells
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Activating metal helmet.
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>>27560496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kH0Bag0akc
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Absolutely hate it. None of the colors go together—in fact, they clash. The pastel blue looks terrible with the flesh color of the head and body, they left the antennae pink so it doesn't even match the fins still, and both the blue and flesh clash horribly with the McDonald's ketchup and mustard colored tail. Really really terrible shiny. One of the worst.
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>>27557991
You take that back. I love shiny Crobat.
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i like it alot, not as much as her regular tho.
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>>27560939
Gold Latias is great, I soft reset for a good IV timid one on Southern Island. I have no idea how to use it though.
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>>27557923
Cinccino's is pleasant, yellow is my favorite color and I'm fond of purple, but I still prefer the original grey and pink.

Though that applies to pretty much every Shiny to me until the team menu sprites are made to reflect shininess.
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>>27560556
Milotic a cute. CUTE!!!!
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I mean, it could be better.
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>>27560556
This is a joke, right? Yellow, cyan, and magenta go perfect together, it's a fucking triadic color scheme. Don't act like you know what colors clash when you clearly don't, Milotic has one of the best shinies in the series.
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>>27560556
The colours go much better together than in regular Milotic from a designer's viewpoint. Your taste is questionable
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>>27561245
>no, you see, if you have a PhD in color like I do, you will have learned enough to know that its colors do not in fact look shit
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>>27557798
I didn't in the past, I already loved the orange color and the yellow seemed too bright, but over the years it became one of my favorites.
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Like it? I love it!
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>pink
I'm actually fine with it
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Reminder
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>>27557798
I fucking love it
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Its awesome.
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Kill Me
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WHY isn't SWELLOW's SHINY BLUE
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The best. Like, much love to Roserade and all but if I had a shiny Roselia there's no way in hell I'd evolve her.
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>>27557798
She looks sort of dopey.
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>>27561501
Man that's a really aesthetically pleasing color scheme.
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>>27561501
Shiny Staraptor is pretty fantastic.
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>>27561515
I feel like it would look better if the blue were replaced with yellow. Otherwise it's choice.
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>>27561413
How would you change it?
What's your second favorite poke?
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>>27561532
Nah man the splash of blue makes it pop just the right amount, yellow would just blend in
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>>27557798
yes it's cute, but I've never had one.
Altaria was my favorite for a short while because I had a shiny Swablu and a gold cloud dragon is sweet but I went back to Dragonair eventually
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Latioses shiny only makes it better imo
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>>27561566
You can get one for free if you beat the white tree hollow. I named mine willy
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>>27557798
No, fuck no.

Why did it have to be green!?
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I love gardevoir's shiny. It's one of my all time favorites, even, and I'm lucky enough to have happened upon one.
>be me, two years ago, just picked up AS at the midnight release
>literally not even 3 hours into the game I'm searching for a modest female ralts to use as my main because gardevoir's my favorite mon
>happen across a shiny
>catch her with my second to last poke ball
>had a male with modest and synchronize at the front of my party so i'm expecting her to have the same nature as him
>check status
>adamant nature
>mfw i have no face
>still used her for the whole game because jesus christ i legit caught a shiny of my favorite pokemon
>still loved her even though she couldn't even pull her weight mega evolved in game
>still ended up hating ORAS passionately
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>>27561612
Similarly...

Why the FUCK did it have to be green!?
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>>27561672
Didn't some trainer in the Hoenn battle tower have a shiny Espeon? I feel like I remember seeing it there.
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>>27557798
I wish it was gold instead of pink, but I guess it's so-so.
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>>27561612
Man that is a cozy green tea green, don't be disrespecting shiny Spinda.
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>>27561680
Fuck I don't remember. I just know it looks stupid green. Should've been some shade of purple.
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>>27561680
Yeah, they did.
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>>27561689
Yeah, it could be more neon but imagine they had made the spots grey! It would look like a real panda and it relates to it being originally found in ashy route 113!

>>27561672
it is almost like GF just mocks people with the green ones
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>>27561538
I would change it more into a golden brown color since I don't think it would work almost any other color scheme. Pic related is my second favorite mon and I love its shiny
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>>27561766
>expecting originality from GF when it comes to shiny colors
You set yourself up for the disappointment.
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>>27561612
I always imagine shiny spinda is drunk and the green spots are vomit.
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I like it, I just prefer the blue + pink spikes more
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>>27561794
I'm just more upset that any interesting pokemon GF makes are shitty in every other aspect but concept.

>>27561814
Ew
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Eh. It's okay.
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>>27557798

Yes
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90% of all shinies are shit that looks like it was done by a colorblind idiot or that the pokemon are made of paper and were left too long in the sun.

That being said, Gen 6 pokemon shinies look like they have some more though into them and look a lot better like shiny clawitzer
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I don't like it >>27561316
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I like it but I can't tell if this is shiny or not
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Actually, yes.
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>>27562265
I goofed.
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I know the green color schemes aren't usually very popular, but I really like Jolteon's. Reminds me of a clover. I've always wanted one, so I could name it Shamrock.
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YES YES YES YES YES YES YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS I'M LIKE GAY FOR IT OR SOMETHING
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>>27562356
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>>27561672
Why do people shit on green shinies so much? I understand that you have Zubat and Espeon but then you have Marill and Tangela.
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>>27561258
>Wasting your money on art college instead of studying a worthy science or trade.
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Don't like it.
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>>27562840
Jellicent is cool
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>>27558119
My favorite too but I always felt like it was a shitshone. I felt like if it was red/yellow or blue/yellow it would look better and still keep the kind of CMYK theme of the original. But blue/pink just isn't right honestly. Something like black/white or green/grey would have even worked
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>>27558602
Finally someone who appreciates Magmar too, but what do you think about Magmortar?
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yes both are good
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It's alright. Could be a lot worse.
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My favorite has already been posted, so I'll go with my second favorite.

It's shit.
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>>27562840
I think it partially depends on the hue of the green and what our brains associate with it, but also on how lazy GF is and how odd some of the green combinations look. A lot of the earlier gens just look like they threw them into some cartoon radioactive waste and called it a day.
Personally I think Marill looks nice, as do Spinda and a few more green shinies, I just like golden Azumarill more.
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>>27561672

I like it
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It's ok, I wouldn't use it though.
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Orange and Blue are my favorite colors.
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I can dig it.
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Umbreon and Espurr yeah, their shinies are nice and subtle whilst still looking good. Umbreon's is sleek, Espurr's is cute.

Chansey... less so. Whilst I love green shinies in general, with Chansey it's this ugly sick-green which just looks awful. Should have gone with a blue or purple, or outright neon green would have even been better.
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Hell yeah.
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>>27560556
I know bait when I see it faggot
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Barely different/10
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It's more on the subtle side, but I still like it.
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Love the shiny, caught like 4 chaining
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Pretty unusual colors for a shiny but it's not that good
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>>27557798
I'm not in love with pink Crobat, but I like Gardevoir, Manectric and pic related a whole lot
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Shiny Buizel is a qt.
...do not google search.
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Oddly enough yes, one of the few times I feel like green works for a shiny form.
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>>27561258
>I have hot opinions so I am justified in making sweeping statements that contradict hundreds of years of research on how colours work that is based in physics and is completely sound
Lol, here's your (you)
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I like the eyes.
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>>27563830
>Watchog is someone's favorite
You've got some strange taste my friend. Has a nice shiny through.
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>>27561672
Because thanks doc
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>>27557798
Eh, it's okay. Not my favorite.
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It looks less gay, kinda disappointing nonetheless
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>>27563914
Despite how fitting it is for it to be black I prefer the original too. Could have been worse though, look at samurott, empoleon and feraligatr those fuckers are barely different.
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>>27563942
I do enjoy the shiny Granbull, but at the same time it feels far more plain once it is.
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It's alright
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>>27561672
If you understood what the design of Espeon is based on you wouldn't have any issue with it being green.
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>>27563947
>>27563947
Yeah, I kinda like the subtle changes in Feraligatr and Empoleon. The dark blue spikes look nice on Feraligatr and the real fits Empoleon pretty nicely. But yeah Samurotts isn't so nice.
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I don't really like it more, but it's okay.
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>>27563896
Cause it makes me feel special and unique like a snowflake.
Here's another favourite of mine.
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>>27564027
You reminded me of another of my favourites with a good shiny, anon.
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>>27557798
Very much so
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I think it's alright. My next favourite is Aggron, which I also like. Next favourite is Steelix which I think is pretty awesome.
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>>27558088
That was my first shiny
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>>27564027
>>27564043
nice taste
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>>27563963
>he thinks espeon was based entirely on Goblin cats and not just as much on Egyptian cats and Sphinxes
>he thinks goblin cats in Japanese folk lore were green like the goblins in muh favorite rpg

Swing and a miss anon. green espeon is still dumb
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>>27561258
Color theory is a very real thing, yo.
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Yep, I like it better than the original. Shiny Dragonite is horrible though.
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It's horrible, I hate pink.
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>>27564138
This. I'm an animation student. professor's always lecturing us about it.
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This isn't Kecleon's shiny.
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>>27561350
Can I have a 2nd reminder: which one's the shiny?
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>>27564110
>I don't know what a carbunkle is and have no idea what I'm on about
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Looks like a goddamn banana with these colors

Regular Arceus is much MUCH better.
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>>27564209

that's the Mystery Dungeon's shopkeepers brother right
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>>27564225
Carbunkles aren't explicitly green dumbass you're playing too much FF. Carbunkles are only stipulated to have have jeweled heads. Now read pic related and fuck right off
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>>27564506
Take your autism out of the thread, lad. There's a huge difference between understanding design choices and being a sperglord.
When you design something it is based on things. To depict those things, you look at their depictions and use them as reference points. Espeon's design is in part based on Carbucles and Carbuncles are most notably seen in pop culture with green colouration. Therefore, referencing that is good design and good fun.

You're a big doofus, fella.
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>>27564553
>Get dunked on
>Call me autistic
>Pop culture references are good design because they're fun for me

Espeon is "based" as much on a Sphinx and on a handful of other things as it is on a Carbunkle, which was the entire point of my post. Giving us a sandstone color scheme espeon for that reference is preferable to me than a lime green one for a video game reference just because you like jrpgs

Take your "fun for me is good design overall" bullshit and fuck it right off.
>stop liking what I don't like
Let me head you off and suggest you stop liking what I dislike. See how that's useless?

Fuck
Off
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>Feraligatr
Yep. I even bred for one.
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>>27557798
Sylveon just swapped its color palette, so I feel insulted
Haunter is even worse because it just gets a brighter body and a blue mouth
Azumarill is cool, but blue is my favorite color
I liked Sandslash's original colors better too
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Yes I do senpai
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>>27557798
They're alright yeah, Clefable would be here but it's shiny is Ugly as fuck and makes no sense
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>>27564201
But anon, pimp...
What kind of colour would you prefer anyway?
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>>27564718
Fucking shit taste, degenerate.
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>>27564781
fanks
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>>27564718
;^)
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>>27564802
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>>27564629
>all this projecting
>these hot opinions
>this complete lack of basic design knowledge
Just because you and the bulbapedia boys pulled design influences out of your ass doesn't make them real and more valid than the actual and very obvious presence of the split-tail cat yokai and carbuncle influences which are very definitely the main design influences for Espeon.

>Take your "fun for me is good design overall" bullshit and fuck it right off
>>stop liking what I don't like
I never said that, you illiterate retard, I explained why something is green and why it makes it good. I don't care about what you like and I never stated whether or not I like anything. It being green makes sense, references its design influences - therefore making them more apparent which further improves the quality of the design as a design definitively needs to communicate its concepts properly. I just happen to not be some opinion spamming idiot who gets upset and a bit of information and goes full asspie rage when someone throws some knowledge at them.

Opinions =/= facts, mate, and I haven't offered you any of mine. I expressed things I 'like' earlier in the thread, by the way, and my liking something doesn't make it good, my disliking something doesn't make it bad. Those are objective qualifiers and have no place when presenting an opinion.
You silly goose.
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>>27564905
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>>27564905
>"lack of design knowledge"
>just because something is founded that makes it good ipso facto
Abusing encomia like
>good
>quality
These are all opinions boyo. You have conflated good and quality with your own personal taste for pop culture and jrpg references, which is bullshit. Stop giving yourself asspats for recognizing a reference like a redditor for a hot minute and read what you're writing.

Masters degree in architecture here, tell me more about your web design credentials and how I know nothing about design because I don't agree with your opinions that somehow aren't opinions.

Tell me more about why any referential design is good design by nature
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>>27562205
It's almost like most shinies were generated automatically by palette swapping and literally had no thought put into them up until very recently.
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>>27557798
it's ok
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fucking kill me
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I like it
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>>27561680
That was the Kanto Trainer Tower
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It's alright. Lavender is better than green at least.
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Yes. The yellow eyes are cool
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You bet your ass I do.
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So, since we are all talking about colors. Who /webdev/ here?

Anyone else notice how incredibly on-point Pokemon coloring is? (With the exception of too many shinies)
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>>27564467
Yeah, he was Purple, but Purple Kecleon have shown up more often than shiny Kecleon across Pokemon in General.

One even showed up in the anime: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EP205

It makes me sad because they look much better than shinies IMO.
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>>27565780
"This fucking guy"
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>>27565780
Psyduck is cute! Cute!
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ehh
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>>27565851
I would like it if it was just a darker blue than the regular one
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>>27565032
Jesus, you're an idiot, lad. I don't have any personal tastes or preferences expressed here and I've already explained that. You're spouting hard irony and pure autism. I've literally finished one non-Pokemon jrpg in my entire life and it had no carbuncles in it at all.

Good is an objective term, definitively and literally none of your other greentexts are even close to actually quoting anything from my post.
Architecture is an entirely unrelated field, too, pal. I'm a career artist and I spent 7 years in three different design colleges so I outrank you on relevant credentials by a wide margin.

>Tell me more about why any referential design is good design by nature
You seriously don't know anything, do you?
A design's job is to communicate something. Pokemon communicate the real life things they are anologues of because the entire plot and concept behind Pokemon is that it is a hyperbole adventure through regions had by child protagonists who grow up in the process.
The monsters are required to fully convey the ideas they are based on - like anything properly design definitively needs to.

Literally the best thing about Pokemon are the absolutely amazing, meticulous designs of both the regions and the Pokemon themselves and it's laughable that an adult isn't able to process these surface level, intuitive designs. Holy shit.

>>27565013
My post was literally
>this is obvious, it's green because of this simple obvious thing
It's not that deep.
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It could be worse I guess
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Oh sure I love it !
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It's just an inverse of the regular color scheme but so much better.
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spinda's is ok, its better than a lot of the other green shinies. i prefer the original though.

slurpuff's is fantastic, i feel like its one of the better thought-out shinies, it looks very dessert-like which fits perfectly.
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An anon already posted an Aggron. So I will select shiny Rampardos. I like it. Do you?
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>>27566435
Not a fan of Rampardos it has a nice shiny
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He's alright.

>tfw all of his images on google search suck
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I can dig it. I prefer the regular but I can't deny the white fins on the red body looks pretty sweet.
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>>27566435
Simple, clean, actually looks like a pallet that may have been the normal version. I'm torn. I like ridiculous shinies, but its nice...
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>>27566214
Holy shit, that fixes almost everything wrong with it. It'd be perfect without the bows (I like the ribbons though)
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>>27557798
It's fucking garbage.
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>>27566509
Can't wait to see the Alolan form shiny tbqh
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>>27566085
This faggot needs to off himself my god
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>>27566699
>someone made a post that makes sense
>better call them a faggot and make literally no contribution to the thread
Nice waste of dubs
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>>27566698
it'll probably be the same coloration as the regular shiny
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Gen2 mons are pretty much guaranteed to be green shiny because of the limitations of the GBC. Unfortunately this curse also struck Ursaring. Not even gonna bother saving the image because it looks that dumb.
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I like the original more, but golden Chikorita is cute.

It reminds me of the original Chikorita sprite from Gold, which had a yellow body. Why the FUCK did they make her all green in later games? Hell, I think she was yellow in the official gen2 art too.

>Chikorita will never be yellow with green leaves again
Why live?
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>>27566805
Most likely, but it will still be funny to see.
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I don't like the combination of the yellow and the fur. It could've been red, or light blue, or silver
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>>27561499
>mfw i have TWO shiny roserades now

only problem i have is that the orange should have stayed red.
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>>27564781
Agreed, they need to be spiky dark and steel types
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>>27567032
I wonder what Alolan Chikorita would look like.
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>>27557798
Audino, Yes.

Marowak, no.
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>>27561245
>Cyan
Colorblind as fuck. Cyan is a lot more green than this nasty pastel blue they've got on it. And Magenta would be a lot stronger. In the sprites, the tail has a bright ketchup red, whereas in the model I posted it's more like a muted red. Get your eyes checked out.
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I never had a favourite pokemon cause I like way too many to pick one but epic memes aside, Alolan Exeggutor is probably my favourite now. I hope it's shiny is golden like the original.
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>>27567148
Differenet person here, but you're wrong. Cyan is the bluest of blues as far as pigments go - hence it being a primary colour - THE primary blue.

Also, Milotic is one of the best shinies in the game. I'm not sure what the colours intend to reference outside of just look good, but having been schooled in all things aesthetic and creative I can't fault it at all.
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>>27567057
a shoop someone did
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>>27567234
fuck forgot to add it kek
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>>27567253
A bit too bright
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>>27567216
If it were anywhere near these tones, it would be fine. But it looks like fucking garbage. The concept is there, but it's a poor execution.
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>>27557798
Very much NO
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>>27567351
You're forgetting that CMYK doesn't translate well to RGB.
Also, the texture means it's not got a clean thing going on that a printed shiny Milotic handbag or whatever might have.
It is good, I guess it just doesn't tickle your fancy mo chara.
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Not particularly, blue Mew doesn't sit well with me.
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Kinda
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Tentacruel

Yeah it's fine
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Just a hue change, but what a difference it makes. I love it!
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>>27567062
Quoting gone wrong or did you forget the image?
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>>27567032
I want to fuck Chiko.
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>>27567604
>I want to fuck everything with a generic anime face
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>>27567691
I think it's more
>I want to be cool and not like those normies so I'll decide to find things that aren't human attractive so everyone can see I'm superior
In most cases
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>>27567745
>implying having a cute personality isn't enough to be attractive
I don't care if she's a pear dinosaur. She's cute.
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Yes. hot pink is my fav color no homo
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>>27567884
>implying personalities inspire a genetic need to mate
Finding something attractive is based in your genetic coding. Anything about personalities or whatever else is cultural/invented and felt purely because of your conditioning. You can't actually be attracted to a cartoon, you can only decide to be based on how you grew up.

Also,
>cute personality
It's a fictional species, any personality you imagine onto it is in your head, especially given the whole "it's an entire species" part.

Like, jack off to whatever you like but don't pretend it's not something you decided to do based on culture. And because it's based i culture, your deciding to do it is to attract attention from similar people, who you deem to be the most attractive because that is how culture works - it aims to reproduce as well.

Some fun trivia there for you. You can read up on memetics if you want to learn more, but if you're on this website you should already know all of this.
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>>27567975
>this whole post
I'm not defending his choice in choosing the shittiest first stage starter, or the whole dinosaur fucking as a whole, but I bet you would be all the rage at parties in waifu/husbando threads with this autism.
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>>27568286
>this weird implication fest
Not at all, there's nothing wrong with deciding to like things. Complaining about that is the same as complaining about doing anything outside of eating, sleeping and sex.
I don't have autism, I'm just real smart and saw something that I felt should be critiqued. Plus, I bet there are a handful of 4chan creepers who enjoy a nice information filled post.
I've even jacked off to anime characters myself, never said it was a crime just explained rather plainly and objectively how it's cultural and not pre-programmed genetically is all.
If you weren't able to infer that simply by reading then you're not intelligent enough to actually discuss that topic. You can go on posting your favourite colours though.
I'm going out now, so there's not much point in replying to this by the way, I won't see it.
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>>27565072
>the tail is the same color as the rest of the body
Always pissed me off.
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>>27567884
I always saw her as a LITERAL pear dinosaur. Chikorita, Bayleef and Meganium are dinosaur shaped fruits. You can literally bite Meganium's neck and it tastes like a sweet and juicy pear.
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This is now a Chikorita thread...
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>>27558312
I was about to post this exact post

Also, muh nugguh
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>>27567064
>your favorite pokemon is my second favorite pokemon
I like you, anon. That orange goes better with that blue than red would, by the way.
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I want to trigger that one autist too.

I want to fuck Mawile. I want to fuck Mawile.

I want to fuck Frillish. I want to fuck Frillish.
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>>27568517
Did you not read his very smart post? He's gone now and can't answer anymore. We can only hope that he comes back later.
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Why aren't there more Grass-type shinies with Fall foliage colors

Why aren't there more Steel-type shinies with Gold, Brass, or rust-colored colors

Why aren't there more Ground-type shinies with colors based on different kinds of sediment/environment, for example, shiny Diglett (instead of just having a blue nose) being light gray and popping out of dark, ash-colored volcanic dirt? Rhydon's shiny forms are a good example, gray mountains vs beige desert.

Why aren't there more albino patterns?

Why, instead, do we get the same shades of puke green and neon purple reused again and again and again and again?
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>>27568360
>I'm just real smart
Not him, but even if you are, never say this if you want people to take you seriously.
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>>27568686
Because GF is lazy?
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it's hardly noticeable
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>>27569686
I've been playing Pokemon since 1998 and never seen a shiny, but this shit scares me. It's been so long now I'm wondering if I saw one of these barely noticeable shinies and just KOed it or ran without registering what it was.

Fuck.

My buddy bagged his second shiny yesterday and he started playing in Gen IV.

I want to catch a shiny :(
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>>27569769
Hunt for one in Gen 6 it's really easy and doesn't take much time
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>>27569855
You mean the egg hatching stuff or is the overall encounter rate higher?
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>>27569969
the odds were changed from 1 in 8192 in Gen 1-5 to 1 in 4096 in Gen 6 so it's a much higher chance now, but you can increase it even more with the shiny charm to 1 in 1365.3
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It's my favorite shiny. I even bred one with perfect IVs before it got a mega so that was pretty lucky.
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>>27567032
I want to tell Chikorita that she's the worst starter and that nobody likes her.

I want to humiliate Chikorita and destroy her dignity and self-esteem. Lewd! Embarrassing! Pathetic! Literally the worst pear!
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I'm not a fan >>27565312
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