Yes, they should be.

These starters, barring Litten's evo, are better than the fakes imo. Especially Rowlet's.

>>27557317
The only good design in that whole image is Ballio.

>>27557317
The one of the right are fucking terrible, Game Freak would never design such bad Pokémon, especially the water one

Fake Popplio Evo is the only one of its trio remotely not shit and it still has nothing on the three most likely real evos

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>>27557317
This could be useful

>>27557317
Game Freak would definitely have cause to be ashamed if fakes were more well-designed than the real starters. Fortunately, that doesn't appear to be going on here.

All three of the fakes are terrible, the clown most of all.

>>27557317
The only one of the ones on the right that looks good is the Litten one.

I feel this is completely biased toward the leaked designs. Please get over it, those three look absolutely nothing like official pokemon designs.

>>27557317
Ballio and friends look like shit and are more anthro/furbait than that real starters.

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>Muh Assassin's Creed edge owl
>It just gets bigger cat with giraffe neck and retarded bowed legs
>Hideous clown thing
>Better designed than anything

>>27557317
(you)
stay mad denialfag

>>27557516
for yo
stay mad fake leakfag

>>27557317

Cringe thread?

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>>27557528
>believing an obvious fake more than a possible fake with a chance of it being real

>>27557317
There is nothing wrong with Arrowl. The straw grasping when you got to it was cringe-worthy.

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>>27557317
>Wanting quadrupedal starters ever

>>27557317
>Doesn't look like a pokemon
>Water/dark is the new fire/fighting
>Literally a mspaint scribble made by a 12 yo

Nah, as shit as they are the real ones are better.

>>27557317
>Panthster is ripped and that's bad
>Pinnister is ripped and that's good
Basically every reason you came up with is just
>I put the word fag in front of something I'm so clever
And
>Still legitimately thinking Samurott is a Sea Lion in 2016

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>>27557317
>there are people that unironically think owltair is a good design
>there are people that unironically think owltair is better than robinhoot
the other two are passbale but owltair is utter fucking trash, having such such shit taste should be bannable

>>27557317
Somebody shop Ballio like the "I have two sides: Nicest kid you'll ever meet/Twisted Fucking Psychopath" picture

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>>27557317
>well justified baww
>well justified
>crying because fake designs that you have been exposed to for all of three-ish weeks aren't the confirmed pokemon
Well, at least the baww is justified, you fucking children.

>>27557373
>>27557616
>especially rowlet's

>owltair worse than robin owl

Objectively the worst opinions, chinese leak rowlet is worst starter

>>27557317
>being this assblasted your shitty edge clown didn't make it
Stay mad juggalo fags.

>>27557317

Green arrow much?

Hahahaha!!!

>>27557749
>chinese leak

this shit debuted in June dumbass
the china shit Was literally a month later

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>>27557317
I love Entermaid like Pinnister <3
I hope they were real... They both, because Entermaid is not 100% confirmed (85% real)

are there actually people that legitimately thought ballio and friends would be real?

they don't even look like the same art style as current pokemon

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>>27557317
The Right Litten is definitely better than that Madagascar Shit on the left, but that Popplio and Rowlet Evo on the right is utter asscakes you fucking retard.

>>27557904
That Popplio evo is certainly better than the furbait, at least

Though the owl, I'll agree, isn't great

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>>27557950
Naw you're a fucking pedo if you think that clown is passable as a Pokemon.

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>>27557808

I think the fakes are terrible.

>>27558029
More passable than the furbait

Popplio was by far the best of the starters, and to see it go the way of braixen is disappointing

>>27558029
lol you are comparable to a fucking pedophile if you like this certain pokemon that in my opinion is not very good! haha!

>>27557317
I actually like fighting Litten and Popmermaid. I just don't like Rowlet's evo. I'm not a fan of the Chesnaught color scheme.

>>27558127
Good one, now go kill yourself you clown rapist.

>>27557317
Ballio is actually the worst thing I've ever seen on this entire site.

Panther >>>>>> Six Pack Tony

Ballio > Mermaid

Owltair < Robin Hoot

>hurr it just gets bigger
Better that standing on two legs and growing a motherfucking six pack. It's a cat for God's sake.

I like how for Rowlet you criticize it for wearing a hood but you exclaim "hoodlife" for the fake one.

All I can say is thank God the ones on the right are fake. They're hideous and do not look like actual Pokemon designs.

The artist confessed that he doesn't really play Pokemon and judging from these designs, it's extremely clear. Trying to look "dark" and "twisted" in a Pokemon game is ridiculous. This is just typical edgy shit.

>>27557425

pfftaahah

>>27558350
I agree with this guy.

>>27558968
>The artist confessed that he doesn't really play Pokemon
>Still makes fake final evolutions for starters and makes a tremendous effort to create mid, final and megas even though he's not trying to mimic the art style

That's kind of contradictory.

And we also barely know about this guy besides knowing his nickname (D.I) and that he works in some company (forgot which) as a design intern and is under some contract and literally has no website to place his art because apparently, that would go against his contract.

>>27557317
The only good between these 6 is the fake panther

>>27557579
Spotted the anthrofag

>>27557317
wew lad this is sad. you are sad.

now i'm sad.

>>27561625
Since when did "doesn't really play" translate to "never picked up a pokemon game in my life"?

if someone asked me if i play poker, i'm going to say not really because i have a handful of times in the past. i'm not completely ignorant of what the game is.

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>>27557317
>not liking baracat
that's understandable, both designs are ok in my book but it makes sense not to like that

>not liking popmaid
i agree, ballio is an amazing design and should be real

>not liking robin hoot
your opinions are shit and so are you

Are these all legit confirmed real?

>>27562235
At this point, yes, they seem real.

Those other designs have been debunked as real. The artist came forward, saying he designed them to be MMO-ish than pokemon since he didn't really play the games but was familiar with them.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/26670811/

>>27557317
Is that pic supposed to be ironic or are ballio&friendsfag just seriously autistic?

>>27557317
Quadruped cat is just boring shit. Tiger3 all the way.
Balio the nightmare fuel
Real owl is much better than fake one.

>>27557317
>Implying my mom's panther, a child molester and an edgy Assassin's Creed OC is better than what we got
You are the definition of bad taste. Your taste quite literally could not be any worse than this. And I don't even like what we actually got. But your taste? Your taste is the worst I've ever seen.

>>27557317
the problem with a lot of fakemon is that there was too much effort put into them
like even some of the "over designed" Pokemon do not have that much thought put into them

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>>27557317
Fucking Kek.

Long live Ballio, even after confirmed fake the army still stands strong.

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ugh

I'd unironically use the ball clown. Why just beat your enemies when you can give them nightmares?

>>27557317
Gonna lay down some hot opinions
Tiger mask>lliterally my mom's panther
Pinnister=entermaid
Robin hoot>edge owl

Pinnister is the same kind of thing that Heelcat is but people here hate it because
>muh quadruped

>>27557317
who ever wrote that text should be embarrassed. Im cringing so hard right now

>>27557317
My biggest problem with both these leaks is that both of Rowlet's evos have absolutely nothing to do with being Grass except for being green.
>inb4 they've each got two leaves on their chests
Oh wow, that's some top fucking designs right there.

I really want the fire puma god damn it I'm seriously not happy at all with the real evolution

I'm probably going to go grass, even though I liked litten far far more

>>27557491
>more barashit
>more waifufaggotry (this time going from fucking clown to mermaid for absolutely no reason)
the only "better designed" one is robinhoot

firecat >>> edgeowl >>>>>>>> murderer clown thing

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>>27557317
they are truly originale! sure

all other shit aside

how does gamefreak sit around a meeting table and go "you know what we really need this time? a bipedal fire/fighting starter"

it boggles the mind

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>people who keep saying littens evo is fire/fighting

>>27557317
The 'real' owl is the only good final evolution the rest are absolute crud.

>>27563350
So like every Grass starter ever?
>Venusaur is just a green frog with a flower on its back
>Meganium is just a green dinosaur with flower petals around its neck
>Sceptile is just a green lizard with a plant tail and bulbs on its back
>Torterra is just a green turtle with a tree on its back
>Serperior is just a green snake with leaf like appendages here and there
>Chesnaught is just a chipmunk with a bit of green-trimmed armor

>>27563350

So? Not every Pokemon has to have flames or flowers coming out of its body to represent its typing.

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>Balliofags STILL in grief

>>27557317
What is it with Game Freak and fucking up fire starters 3 GENS IN A ROW

>>27563451
>Chesnaught is just a chipmunk with a bit of green-trimmed armor
To be fair, Chestnaught was a pretty shitty Grass-type too.
And all the others actually have entire plants as part of their design, not just a pair of leaves (Serperior is a vine).

What, they couldn't come up with a better way to establish Rowlet as more than just a bird?

They're better than the fakes except maybe Litten (only because it's more or less Houndoom)

http://www.strawpoll.me/10920206
please give your opinions

>>27563514
are those names confirmed?

>>27563401
Are you implying that the yugioh monster looks like perfect zygard

>>27557317
>autism

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>>27557317

>>27563502
Robinhoot develops the leaves into vines, which it uses as a bowstring.
That's a much better implementation of the plant theme than other starters, which mostly are "I have a big plant that fuels me and shoots laser beams"
I agree Grassassin is shitty

>>27563567
it wouldn't be shitty if he used leaf blade and razor leaf and bullet seed and shit like that instead of his own edgeweapons

those all sound pretty assassiny desu

is this the worst starter trio ever?

does anyone think there's a worse trio?

>>27563584
What about Kalos?

>>27563584
Did you block the Unova starters out of your mind?

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>>27563561
>people think sausage mcgee is good

No.

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>this thread
Holy shit /vp/ you contrarian morons. I knew people would suddenly change their opinions just to go against the OP post.

You know what? I refuse to believe these are real.
This is just a sketch from one of the designers, the faggot one that everyone hates and whose designs only got picked like once in all the years he's worked there, probably for Klefki.

They all come up with their own designs and then they debate and compare and decide on a final design together. This is just one of the artifacts of the process. One of the other designers who's actually good probably leaked it just so they could show how much everyone would hate this stupid shit.

Prove me wrong

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>>27563609
>/vp/ is one person

>>27563594
there is literally nothing wrong with samurott, and emboar is like the homosex bara tiger except slightly less bad. serperior is probably shittier than the owl, I'll give you that

>>27557317

>Fire starter no. 1
4/10

>Fire Starter No. 2
6/10

>Water Starter No. 1
3/10

>Water Starter No. 2
2/10

>Grass Starter No. 1
8/10

>Grass starter No. 2
5/10

None of them are that good, but I suppose I prefer the charm of the leaked ones.

>>27563350
I dunno Assassin owl has the cool night vision light eyes moniker and used the grass and owl shapes to create a pseudo outfit pretty nicely.

>LuchaLitten > Panther

Way more creative, has more personality, better design overall and unexpected.

>Poppmaid > Ballio

I like both designs but Poppmaid just looks likee it would work better with an audience. If Ballio had a less rapey face than I wouldn't mind it, but the design is too creepy to market to little children.

>Robinhoot > Owltair

Owltair is just too edgy for a GF design. Robinhoot is safer and looks like it just more fun to use and has more personality.

Plus Ballio and friends look like they all share the same secondary typing

Ballio and friends need more fanart or at least more fanart for all 6 of them

>>27563631
>samurottfag hating on based snek

Die. Die and drop dead please

>>27557317
The ones on the right are horrible designs, the ones on the left are rough sketches and - assuming they're real - are likely discarded pitches from early in development.

As regards the final appearance of the starters, the left ones are sort of irksome but are still well designed. The ones on the right are fucking horrible, shitty drawings by some braindead moron.

It blows my mind how many idiots post here making statements about "good/bad designs" without knowing what the word design even means.

>>27563687
>Owltair is just too edgy for a GF design
there are a few pokemon who could challenge that assumption I bet

>>27563514
I thought it was for the best starter and picked the bara tiger. But then I read the description.

>>27557317
>Fourht fire starter to stand up
No this is wrong. Every single one of the fire starters stand up.

>>27557317
You've got autism if you think some deviant artist shit is better than the official work

>>27562905
Holy shit, this is autistic as fuck.

How can people like shit designs from an genuine underaged faggot like this? Guessing the people liking these are also underaged redditors

>>27557317
fuck you roothoot

>>27557317
All three of those fake ones are horse shit. Lrn2art

>>27557904
>the deviantart Litten3 is better than a badass wrestler
Grow up

Fire Cat looks absolutely retarded, Owltair looks like something an angsty 12 year old would post to his DeviantArt account, Ballio looks like a rejected Stephen King slasher villain

The only good design out of the six is Robinhoot, to be honest family.

>>27557579
spotted the fucking idiot

>>27563584
I'd say it's on par with Gen 5, but gen 5 was also pretty bad.

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>>27563567
This is how I feel about Robinhoot. Grass starters walk the line of having to incorporate plant elements effectively but also being animals and appealing to the fans as creatures. They'll probably never do a straight-up botanical starter because everyone loves animals.

I chose Chespin last gen, and while the chesnut theme was a unique idea it didn't necessarily translate well into projecting "I am a Grass-type" clearly. Serperior's leaves look a bit tacked on, but vine snakes are a thing so it gets a bit more of a pass for resembling a real critter with plant camouflage.

I expected them to take Rowlet in the camo direction because lots of real owls have amazing abilities to blend in with their surroundings. This would allow them to work in plant elements like wood patterns, leafy protrusions or feathers, and the like. Robinhoot does this a bit with its hood and overall coloration, and I wouldn't be surprised if dex flavor and behavior expand on it hiding among treetop foliage and the like.

The leaf bow tie developing into vines for a bowstring is a very unique, well-thought-out design choice. I could see a signature arrow move being Flying or Grass.

>>27557317
edgy =/= better

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My overall opinions are positive, for what it's worth. I think they look good together. I dream of a quadruped Fire starter and the siren Popplio is a little jarring at first but I can learn to appreciate them. Rowlet's final is on track to potentially become one of my favorite Pokemon of all.

>>27558029
>>27558127
Kill yourselves you fucking moralfags.

>>27562905
Lol he didn't draw those. That's an attention seeking faggot.

>>27557412
I think you have your lefts and rights confused friend

>>27568034

Balliofag detected.

>>27568034
Ha! Gottem! *fist bumps*

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Ballio is real! I won't let this go! I'll suck /vp/ dick if he isn't real!

>>27566843
You literally stole the post I was about to post. True regardless. Fuck off op

Are faggots really still in denial those those "reals" are actually still not confirmed yet?

I mean... if you actually put the two next to each other, litten3 and emboar don't actually look similar beyond color scheme and, yeah, I guess standing up.

The ones on the right are literally 3 edgy donut steel deviantart OC

>>27557317
How the fuck do people think the fakes are better than the real ones? The only fake one that is better than the real one is Litten3. The other two are pretty shit.

>>27558078
phenomenal

>>27557808
As if they would ever give complex evolutions to starters

>>27557317
Ballio and friends are shit OP

>>27557317
keep on crying

I've never understood how anyone could legitimately like Ballio's design.

>>27563419
Because fire starters end up having a lot of trouble with rock-types. Fighting is super-effective against rock.

>>27562763
>people still posting my fanart on most thread about the fakes
It feels awesome. If only that could pay me a 3DS, because Arrowl actually looks pretty cool and I need it in my life.

>>27557317
How is it that people keep calling Poppmaid the furfag bait when Litten's evo is an actual anthro cat that shoots fire from its dick?

>>27557317
I like fake fakes more than real fakes.

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>>27566100
>Badass wrestler
>Grow up
Irony, the post. At least there's only one more month of Summer left to go...

>>27557317
Yeah the archer is so "circus"...
I like the oiled sleek panther tho, simple and effective design like Typhlosion, creative cannon pose when attacks, clearly looks like a cannon firing balls. The tail could preserve Litten's point too.

Hope we'll get something similar, it's a 10/10 for me as concept and would use in a feline team.

I do also believe Rowlet will evolve into a magician rather than archer, will use leaves as cards and shit.

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>Liking Alolan Persian than Mother fucking Tiger Mask.

>>27557317
I like the litten design, but the clown is meh and the own is shit.

Not only is the owl shit but having a mothman pokemon that isn't set in Appalachia is fucking insulting.

Balio is a fucking abomination.

Anyone who likes it must be retarded, it's the only explanation.

>>27557317
The ones on the right look like shit. They're basic as fuck and boring. Flat, little to no detail and unoriginal.

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>mfw people actually think grr super dark fire cat, sex offender clown, and edgy assassin owl are actually GOOD

>>27570988
>someone want another fucking fire/fighting starter

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>Owltair
>Good

Fucking edgelords

>>27557317
Both are false though

>>27557317
Grass Real: 10/10
Grass Fake: 2/10

Fire Real: 8.5/10
Fire Fake: 9/10

Water Real: 10/10
Water Fake: 10/10