Pokemon is dead.

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3D models ruined pokemon

>I don't like change and everything should cater to ME

>>27525384
You're dead nerd!

but archeops trying to fly is cute.

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>>27525384
>>27525409

>yfw Aerial Battles return

Literally the only good flying animation in the game

>>27525453
I'd be more pissed if they didn't, because that means we're stuck with the shitty gliding animations because of a one-off gimmick

>>27525384
Personally I think it's hilarious that GF has decided to use the most contentious models to showcase the new pokemon in the trailers.

>first salamence
>now archeops

Fucking kek. Out of everything that exists they choose these. They know what they're doing and they're laughing at you autists. Can't wait to see tropius in the next trailer!

>>27525409
the models aren't even really the problem, GO uses the same models and they look incredible
its because gamefreak can't into shading

>>27525453
They have a better chance of returning than Megas.

>>27525409
Salamance is ok.

Has Xatu been shown yet? I want to know if I won't be able to use it again.

>>27525511
Nice bait dubsfag

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>that dumb fucking look on its face
>wings are too small
>just generally kinda fatter than it should be
>feet are just dangling there awkwardly instead of being tucked up to the body like in all the art

its flapping is really the least of its problems i don't know why people fixate on that above all its actual issues

>>27525540
I have that same issue with my old favorite Steel type Skarmory

>>27525511
Retard.

>>27525434
>I am a sycophant and everyone should agree with ME

See you in November, when you buy the games anyway. Probably both of them.

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>>27525621
>believing game is dead just because of pokemon variants

>>27525514
>floating

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>>27525384
>>27525409
Also

>>27525592
>those pre-release days of ORAS and people thought Xatu and Skarmory would be would be on the ground when the demo was datamined
>it was just their pokedex entries

>>27525654
It's about the models, not the variants

>>27525654
Read the file name. This is about the flying Pokemon models

>>27525453
But how will our trainers be behind us still?

Honestly gen 5 was the peak for handheld quality graphics in a pokemon game, their models where far better than gen 6+

You're all stupid fucking baboons

>>27525588
It's an early bird, anon. It's meant to be not elegant.

>>27526141
hahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

>>27525453
It wasn't bad, it just needed improvements.

>>27526141
You mean gen 4

>>27525721
They wouldn't be seen at all because the Pokemon will be in the sky.

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

>>27525693
>>27525707
>people still whining about the creature that's bad at flying, has an animation of it flying poorly
>pokemon that are good at flying, have animations where they glide, aka fly really good

I swear /vp/ is full of retards who haven't seen an actual animal in their life.

>>27526347
Honestly, 95% of the people who post on this board is severely retarded.

Also, Captcha: "Floating Midget". Topkek.

>>27525384
>Pokémon is dead.
>Pokémon has fainted.
Fixed that for you.

>>27526347
name a single official source that states it bad at flying

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>>27525409
>>27525662
>mad about flying type flying
>says nothing about fish levitating

>>27526141
(You)

>>27526347
>defending gamefreak and its completely shitty and lazy animations
Looks like the retard here is you faggot, go suck Masuda's dick and kill yourself while you're at it

>>27525434
>Nobody else should have opinions except ME

Oh look. Its the faggot complaining about how "bad" the 3D models are.

>>27526524
Oh come on
You're probably one of these guys who defend Gen 5's undefendable designs

>>27525409
But they're objectively better than gen 5's disgusting Flash-tweened stretch-scaled sprites.

I can understand other flying types, but why bitch about Archeops? Archeops is SUPPOSED to be weird.

>>27525511
Other way around anon.

>>27526473
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeopteryx

fucking learn to dinosaur you pedestrian

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>>27525384
See pic.

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

>>27526582
Thanks for confirming what a said

>>27526473
Pokedex.

>>27525384
Biggest fucking gripe with the 3D models. But oh well, most kids don't seem to mind and that's all that matters.

>>27526658
that pokedex that never says its bad at flying

>>27526473
You've never bothered to read any of the text featured in the game, have you?
Fuck you're dumb.

>>27526583
finally someone agrees with me

>>27526717
WHITE: It runs better than it flies. It catches prey by running at speeds comparable to those of an automobile.
BW2/XY/AS: It runs better than it flies. It takes off into the sky by running at a speed of 25 mph.

IT RUNS BETTER THAN IT FLIES
RUNS > FLIES

>>27526781
this

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>>27525588
>best birb
>gets all the hate
>mfw something wrong on /vp/
>oh no it's just vp, full of trash as usual

>>27525384
Archeops' flying model is both adorable and makes sense.

>>27526818
There will be less trash once you leave. :)

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That's something. Does this imply Archeops will be usable main game? Or was it just a random pokemon chosen for the screen shot?

>>27526825
I don't give a shit whether or not it makes sense, Archeops should either fly correctly or stay on the ground, these animations are garbage, stop defending it.

>>27526583

no, those were awesome and you suck


the problem with these 3d models is that they are sub gamecube in quality

>>27526920
The gliding ones are stupid, but Archeops is perfect just the way it is. Enjoy your continued frustration.

>>27526920
At least if you're saying animations are garbage don't use one of the best ones as an example, shit aint good for your cover

tl;dr : you're a retard, i'm surprised you don't have a tripcode

>>27526717
Yeah, I'd shut up too after looking like an idiot.

>>27525409
Dragonite always looked like Barney the Dinosaur, that's got nothing to do with the move to 3D. All Salamance (as well as a bunch of other flying pokemon) needs is an animation change, which again, has nothing to do with the 3D model.

>>27526347
If you think birds glide stopped on the same place like that, it's you who needs to see a few more actual animals.

The problem most people have with it is how dumb they look gliding, as there's a clear forward motion. A more logical solution would be have the blinds flap their wings while standing in a battle, but they're too lazy to do that.
Gliding only makes sense on Sky Battles, but that is barely in the games and honestly seems added just to have an excuse for the gliding models.

>>27526825
He should have have different flying animations for before and after defeatist activates. His current one should be the latter.

>>27526781
being better at something doesn't mean your shit at the other
being a better at cooking than driving doesn't make you a shit driver

>>27526920
>I don't give a shit whether or not it makes sense
t. The mindset that could actually ruin clever Pokemon designs. Off yourself anytime.

>>27527126
Being the only Pokémon that needs a running start to fly makes you a shitty flier.

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers.

>>27525654
Seelp Sung Ermems

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>>27527021
No, the problem is that people think these gliding models are the majority or something. There are like 7 gliders out of 93 flying types and many of those gliders flap their wings once in a while too.

>>27527243
That pic doesn't work so well to talk about the gliding nitpick, because even if you consider the pokemon move around there's still no room to glide constantly like that.

I agree with you argument about how people blow this out of proportion.

>>27527128
>"It doesn't fly well so let's make it look retarded flying instead of putting it on the ground!"
>Clever
Off yourself anytime.

>>27526949
Shit taste confirmed.

>>27525384
actually there's 2 new games in the pokemon series coming out called Sun and Moon

>>27525654
Slip Emma of Snags

>>27525654
sleep snug emmers

Anyone else being soft banned?
4 of us just got hit

>>27527905
How does it feel to know that no matter how angry you get at that animation, it will NEVER EVER change to better suit your tastes?
NEVER
EVER
EVER

>>27528063
How does it feel to know that no matter how angry you get at yourself, you will NEVER EVER stop being a faggot?
NEVER
EVER
EVER

>>27527021
They aren't hanging in place. It's a turn based game. Did you get mad when your party ran in place while escaping battles in Final Fantasy games too? Or that characters just stand there to take hits? Use your fucking imagination. The bird pokemon that flap to hover in place are way more bullshit, considering only hummingbirds do that.

>>27525384
Millions of people will buy sun and moon, the anime continues to air (unfortunately), the trading card game is at its most popular since the 90's, 100s of million of people have downloaded Pokemon Go.

Pokemon is more alive than ever, if you don't like the way the series is going you are welcome to leave at any time, just stop shitposting on this board.

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>>27525384
>Pokemon get alternate forms
>"POKEMON IS DEAD"

We've had 'mons with different forms since gen 2, under a technicality that Scisor is basically still Scyther.

Additionally, these "Alola-Form" 'mons are hardly unique, since we have things like Wormadam, Rotom, Deoxys, Shaymin, literally ANYTHING with an alt-form.

I don't see why people are getting anally destroyed by these new additions.

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>>27525409
>3D models ruined pokemon
There have been 3D models since the beginning.
Why are you still here, then?

>>27528098
I'm not the one sucking 10 cocks at the same time right now.

>>27527156
THIS

>>27528178
There were a variety of animations in Stadium though. Separate ones for standing flying and various attacks.

>Shellder will never bite down on Slowbro's tail making him goofily run towards his opponent to attack
>Jynx will never poof into nothing but clothes and a wig as she faints
>Pikachu will never pull out a surfboard when he surfs
>Raichu will never ride on his tail for a surfboard again

Seriously, what the fuck happened?

>>27526949
>liking PIXELS

>>27525384

You want to talk about flying models sure

But archeops's entire purpose is that he doesn't know how to fly

His gen 5 Sprite is him flapping like a shit head just like now

>>27528349
The worst offender:

>Blastoise will never get his custom Hydro Pump animation back

The 'main' Pokemon games will genuinely die in the next few years. While /vp/ will forver lap up any reskinned garbage, the majority are getting more and more disinterested by the game.

>>27528503
pretty much this

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>>27525384
We'll make diamonds from their ashes.

>>27528503

>main series still sells tens of millions of copies


You and Me literally have more of a chance of dying before Pokemon does.

>>27528470
>Alakazam will never casually float back into the battle after getting hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8mP0QcMRA0

>>27526490
Have you never heard of a flying fish?

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

>>27525384
inb4 alola fossils appear
inb4 Mono flying Archeops
inb4 bug/water Kabutops

>>27528349
>battles will never last 2 hours again

>>27529030
>tens of millions
I don't think so buddy. It's declining and will continue to do so.

>>27529514
>As of June 30, 2016, the games (Pokemon X&Y) together have worldwide sales of 14.9 million.[

>As of June 30, 2016, the games (Pokemon ORAS) have sold 12.24 million copies worldwide

Sun and Moon will most likely also sell over 10 million copies as well.

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>>27525384

You know that Archeops has always been silly-looking, right. That's the point. Archen can't fly, and Archeops is better at running than it is flying.

Defeatist (Timid in Japanese) also ties into this. Archeops is supposed to be awkward and dopey-looking.

>>27525654
Can I fuck the Emmers?

>>27525511
There is literally a round slot on the Z-Ring made for Key Stones

And no it's not some wacky design choice. The entire ring besides that one part has diamond shaped slots for the Z-Crystals.

>>27525654
sleep snug

http://www.strawpoll.me/10886853/

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>>27526949

Wrong. They are superior to Gamecube/Wii models in quality.

>>27525496
It is because Nintendo can't in into resolution. Game freaks shading isn't the problem they are working within the confines of shitty hardware. Hell even the PSVita has double the ppi and iPhone 6s have triple the ppi. When Nintendo decides to get serious about hardware our options will be better.

>>27525496
>pokemon GO looks good
Fuck off summerfag.

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As you can see, the XY models are more smoother, more detailed, and have a higher polycount.

>>27526949
Autism

>WAAAAAH I CAN'T PROJECT MY HEADCANON ONTO THE POKEMON ANYMORE

>>27533024
And are squished into a shitty low resolution screen.

>>27533105
But the gen five pixel shits weren't though right?

>>27533105

That's irrelevant to the discussion.

This topic is about models, not resolution.

>>27525384
Looks good and alive to me

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Yeah because Archeops totally isn't meant to look awkward

>>27533105
>Believing black people deserve rights

>>27526220
Since when are fossil mon early shitmons?

>>27526457
underrated post

>>27529993
Neither of those are 10s of millions. They're both just over 10 million. 10s of millions implies a plurality of 10 millions, i.e 20 million +

>>27533204
Defeatist makes it have the worst BST of all fossils.

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>>27525409
salamence looks retarded whether it's floating or standing on the ground

>>27533204
I think they meant early from an evolutionary standpoint.

>>27533312
Agree. Salamence has always looked retarded with that dumb face, unnatural color scheme and paper wings

>>27529131
Flying fish exist you dumbass look it up.

>>27533556
That's what he said, retard. do u even reeding compreehenshun/???

>>27528349
>>27528470
>>27529038
>I've never heard of PBR

We need a new stadium-like game for the Wii U, PBR only has up to Gen 4.

Alakazam still does his thing.
https://youtu.be/vqESXB49rBk

>>27530486
Since that's its ability, it does make sense that it flies the way it does in Gen 6 and 7. And also the fact that it is based on the first evolved bird in prehistoric times.

>>27533024
Yes it really shows because Pokemon Go also uses those same models.

>>27533081
This. People can get pretty salty when their fantasized lore doesn't come true.

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>>27533422
>>27533312
You morons not know part of it is based off Devilman?

>>27526781
>WHITE: It runs better than it flies. It catches prey by running at speeds comparable to those of an automobile.
IT SHOULD LEARN FUCKING EXTREMESPEED

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers :D

>>27536236
end your life

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

>>27527905
>Why doesn't he fly
>He's bad at it
>THEN SHOW HIM FLYING POORLY REEEEEEE

>>27526141
>le epic bait may may

>>27525654
Been having sleeping problems,

Sleep Snug Emmers

>>27533130
Except the higher the resolution the better the model and coloring can be. Move along.

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>>27525511
>He hasnt seen the official art with the people riding charizard and underneath it is mega-sharpedo

>>27538133
that's regular sharpedo

are you retarded?

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>>27525654

>>27538133
It's a regular sharpedo with a riding device attached, you imbecile.

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

>>27538546
fuck I remember seeing this but I can't remember the context
this looks like it's from a silent voice

>>27525409
Dragonite looks fine, and Salamence always looked stupid either way.

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

>>27525409
>not posting Blastoise

>>27533024
>everything couldn't look like pokedex 3d
>no, we're stuckcwith the shitty pastel look
>m-muh sugi

>>27525654
>not posting the superior version

>>27525384
i hope this is an ice type with good offensive stats

>>27527126
it does when you Context.
kys

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>>27538133
What is that pokeball charger thing

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>>27540930

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>>27540821

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>>27540990

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>>27541030

Garchomp has the worst 3d model if you ask me, if only because he always looked really cool in sprite form.

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>>27541052

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Basically dragonite now. Poor choice in colors.

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BW sprites just seemed so lively

>>27525654
"Sleep Snug Emmers"

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What

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>>27541130
went

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>>27528470

Im so fucking mad

of all the worst offenses, HE CANT EVEN USE HIS CANNONS FOR FUCKING WATER ATTACKS WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THERE FOR??

https://youtu.be/OM_BTJ1--m0?t=7m10s

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>>27541138
wrong?

>>27541130
>>27541138
>>27541161
the 3d models all have such washed out colors, christ

>>27525384
Why not just make it a new pokemon instead of a variant?

>>27541168
At least they keep their fucking colors, unlike the sprites.

>>27541178
What?

>>27541110
And they also looked the worst out of them all. And every sprite you posted does nothing but dance like a spaz.

>>27525384
Pokemon has been dead since gen 2.

>>27541188
AT LEAST THEY KEEP THEIR FUCKING COLORS, UNLIKE THE SPRITES.

>>27525384
Based on real logic that Sandslash isnt a new species but would have to exist in a new family of lifeforms entirely due its differences.For example monkeys that lack tails or apes are in the family Hominoidae or the Great Apes which we humans are in.

This thing however has icy spines, and icy covered skin so it is in another family..

>>27541192
I personally hate the sprite animation but at least the colors are good and the poses are exciting. All the new models look bored. Just standing there.

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>>27541192

>>27541218
Makes sense. It's the same genus (made up of Sandshrew and Sandslash), different family (Ice or Ground) and different species (Ground Slash, Ground Shrew, Ice Slash or Ice Shrew).

Or whatever.

>>27541198
Saying it louder doesn't make what you said any more clear. Are you arguing that the sprite colors are inconsistent or that the 3d models are close to the art? To me, the 3d models are washed out and not "keeping their colors" that they've had in the past.

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>>27541227
Yeah man fucking awesome looking.

NX when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEO49Xl8BzA

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>>27541192
I didn't like Black and White very much but the sprites are far more pleasing to look at than "everything is fat, washed out, and flies like a retard". Example, Lugia.

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>>27541266
Or not, actually. They were just fine a few years before. 4th gen backsprites is the pinnacle of GF sprites.

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>>27541278
And here Lugia looks slimmer and far more threatening, like he's about to fight instead of barely supporting his enormous fat belly.

>one guy samefags the whole thread anytime somebody says something bad about the 3d models
pathetic

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>>27541278

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Fat and boring

>one guy samefags the whole thread anytime somebody says something bad about the sprites
pathetic

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>>27541320
Fat fat fat

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>we will have to deal with these models for the rest of eternity
Gamefreak is too lazy to ever redo the 3D models

>>27525384
One of the only thing that don't like about the models is the fact that the colors of are less vibrant.

>>27541356
*the colors are

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

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>>27541320

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

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>>27541330

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

Pls I need both of these

>>27541278
Yeah totally, shitty tweened stretched sprites are way better than models that actually animate, attack, flinch, faint, and react to being pet

Totally
Totally not nostalgia

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>>27541278
So what you're saying is that you always hated Lugia.

>>27541291
With that downs face it doesn't look threathening.

It's funny you keep posting showdown "sprites", though.

>>27541356
This anon is right though. Cool or not the game should follow the artwork, period.

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>>27541346

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>>27541415

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>>27541330
Were you bullied as a kid? Christ, all you talk about is being fat.
Not mentioning how you keep posting Pokemon that were always like that.

>>27526535
You can have your opinion, and people can call you an idiot because your opinion is retarded, that is their opinion of your opinion.

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>>27525384
Only if it's a ghost type.

>>27525654
Sleep Snug Emmers

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>>27541429
Do you prefer "round"? Because they are also too rounded.
If you are >>27541401
Tyranitar's art has also never been that round or fat, and honestly that sprite still seem more true to it than the current model.

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>>27541539
They really aren't. You're just seeing a more "frontal" view instead of a more "lateral" view.

>/vp/ will defend the shitty 3d models because they have to always push "new is better" so they don't seem like genwunners

>>27542063
>/vp/ will complain about the 3d models because they have to always pretend they're oldfags so people won't realize they're underage Sinnohfoeti