>clearly the fastest of the three, meaning at least 100 speed

I'm interested on it's unique moves.

That arrow seems definitely a new move.

>>27522370
but would a archer pokemon
be physical or special

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>mfw being a grassfag
>mfw rowlet is the best of the three starters

I'm so glad it's real.

I do feel bad for Littenfags, though.

Litten is faster than Rowlet though

>weak to Stealth Rock
>grass type
>doesn't have flinch hax
Into the trash it goes. It'll have to get Gale Wings to be remarkable at all.

>>27522430
It better not be special, it'll be absolute shite if it is. Special grass type is just codeword for no move pool.

>>27522413
Interested *in
You fucking ombicile!

>>27522370
If the leaks are real:
>Satoshi will have Rowlet
>regional companion female will have Poppilio
>new rival will have Litten

>>27522456

With a decent Defense and HP, it can circumvent this. And if it learns any recovery move as most of Grass Type, then we have something to go around it.

Not all Pokemon weak to Stealth Rock are bad.

>>27522485

*imbecile.

You can make mistakes, anon.

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>>27522443
why? litchudore is top tier senpai

>>27522430
Very likely physical, unless it's shooting off light arrows or some shit.

Projectiles that are solid are physical. Things like Bullet Seed, Razor Leaf, Rock Blast, Icicle Spear, Pin Missile, etc.

>>27522456

I'm positive it will be at least as good as Staraptor, given the 100 speed and Swords Dance. Also it has STAB against Rock types.

>Weavile
>Mamoswine

>>27522524

Don't forget that its new low level move, Leafage, is physical.

>>27522524
actually if its fast with skill link 2 stabs for it icicle spear and SD
it wouldn't be too bad
but thats gonna be pikipeck

>Gets overcoat as hidden ability
>Becomes the next Delphox wasted potential with useless ability

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>>27522543

>>27522550
Leafage is special, m8. But that doesn't mean anything since leafage was just added to be an equivalent to ember and water gun since grass never had one.

>>27522490
Ash's companion is likely Mallow and she specializes in grass types. Granted that means nothing in the anime considering he's had companions like Misty, Brock, Cilan, Iris etc. who've all had other types.

>>27522590
greninjas exclusive was also physical
And he turned out Special

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>>27522456
>evolution of the regional bird
>4x weak to stealth rock
Into the trash it goes.

>>27522622
if it didnt have gale wings it would be complete garbage in every way besides design

>>27522550
Source on this?

>>27522490
Maybe Satoshi will get both Rowlet and Litten while the female companion (if there is one) gets Popplio. Like back in Sinnoh when he had both Turtwig and Chimchar.

>>27522502
Alone it doesn't mean make it bad, but it makes it worse since sneaky pebbles are everywhere. It's all the things that stack up.
But there's no reason it can't have a new, unique HA that's actually good.

>>27522632

Part of that is having absolute shit stats barring speed. I guarantee Arrowl will have more than 81 attack.

>>27522616
Leafage isn't an exclusive. It's literally just adding a move that should have there since the special physical split. But again, it doesn't matter because starters learn a shit ton of both special or physical moves unless they're called meganium

>>27522443

There's nothing wrong with a tiger mask for a pokemon.

>>27522370
>Delibird used Ice Shard!

>Like owl the best
>Love Exeggutor and think his Alola form is hilariously goofy
>Autism prevents me from using two grass types

Suffering

>>27522632
hatches eggs fast

>>27522700
>Autism prevents me from using two grass types
Sucks for you.

>>27522700
>Grass is favorite type
>Usually do an all grass type playthrough of new games
>Possibly new forms of Vileplume and Bellossom
Gonna be fun

>>27522690
> 75 Spd Delibird versus probably over 90 Spd Rowlet3.

:/

>>27522853
>Possibly new forms of Vileplume and Bellossom
that might not be grass type to begin with

>>27522705
Prefer the moth

>>27522370
Jumping ship to owlsassin from Litten here
The hood looks pretty dumb but I like the sniper angle it has.

It does have to be afraid of ice shard and bravest bird though, I hope it gets some new priority move for that.

>>27522950
>it gets some new priority move for that

Yeah, it's called switching.

>>27522891
Even better. Old bro with new potential

>>27522370
>is an owl
>wears glasses

give it tinted lens

>>27522935
But it cannot fly

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I know the text on this image has been translated. Does anyone have the info?

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You just described Hawlucha, which is trapped in BL hell because it doesn't have the power or Flying STAB to sweep.

>>27522963
>mamoswine, weavile or brave bird on enemy team
>know that any attempt to set up with swords dance will be useless and owl will be a liability until those are dead

No, switching isn't good enough to be more than decent.

>>27523076
>Where were you when Robinhoot was confirmed "at least decent?"
that's p. much hawlucha

>>27523076
Focus sash unburden with swords dance into acrobatics

>>27522632
And how do you know that Robin hoot won't have a decent HA?

>>27523100
>switching isn't good enough to be more than decent
>if it can't deal with literally every Pokemon in existence it's shit

t. low ladder scrub

>>27522502
>What is Roost

>>27523164

>only 1 chance to sweep
>you absolutely need Stealth Rock off the field
>itemless +2 92 Attack is powerful, but not overwhelmingly so

>>27523212
there is ONE (1) good pokemon in the whole world and it's called mega rayquaza

>>27523280

>you absolutely need Stealth Rock off the field

Hawlucha is neutral to rocks.

Focus Sash isn't even the correct build. Sub Sitrus with SD, Acro and HJK can sweep hard, even in OU. And even if it has to switch, it can revenge kill with high powered moves.

Also, this thing is very likely getting Brave Bird. It's fucking Robin Hood.

>>27522370
Does any starter actually switch around its stats when it evolves?
Because in speed it's
Pikachu > Litten > Rowlet > Popplio all at lv50

>>27523280
I thought acrobatics doubles in power, making it 110 plus stab

>>27523025
>mothra cant fly
I dont think youve ever used a volcarona mate.

>>27522370
"Kicks" is just how they describe a bird attacking with its talons. I swear there's other birds whose Dex entries say this.l but I don't know which.

>>27522517
They clearly did that intentionally.

>>27523212
>salamence, garchomp
>enough bulk to survive a 40BP 4* se and OU
>volcarona
>only priority weak to brave bird
>has one of the best setup moves in the game
>fire offensive typing
>not even BL

Sure thing

>>27523429

>priority is everything

How dumb are you?

Nothing even uses Ice Shard except Weavile and Mamoswine. It's a niche move at best. Surviving Ice Shard is not why Garchomp is OU.

>Salamence
>OU

Just go away, scrub.

>>27523076
BL is a pretty good place to be. It's head and shoulders better than a majority of other pokemon even there.

>>27522470
What the fuck are you talking about? If anything, physical grass is "no movepool." If you're not lucky enough to get Leaf Blade or Petal Blizzard, you're stuck with Seed Bomb or Bullet Seed. Every Grass type has Energy Ball, and most have Giga Drain, both of which are amazing moves.

>>27522370
>clearly the fastest of the three
watch E3, retard. Litten was confirmed to be the fastest.

>>27523466

What's wrong with Seed Bomb? Physical grass at least have Swords Dance to boost. Almost none of them have Nasty Plot.

Also, special Flying types are trash.

>>27522443
Shut it, grasscuck

>>27523359

Oshawott and Tepig are tied, but Tepig becomes slower.

>>27522875
(You)

>>27523041

Owl3
1. Has a calm\cool persona
2. Tightens its hood when its upset or irritated
3. Uses its quills as arrows and vines as the string.
4. Its difficult to notice which helps it ambush foes
5. It likes to chill on Tree branches.

Tiger3.
1. Has a wild and gusty persona
2. Fights dirty- spits ember in its opponents face, isn't above using unconventional items or means, uses Fire Spin from its belt.
4. Has a signature move called Beast\Tiger Swing???
5. That Belt gets hotter the more "passionate" it is.

Sea lion3
1. Uses its voice to charm and or lure opponents
2. Has a elegant and welcoming nature
3. Is very playful

>>27523462
>mega salamence

Post ELO

How do we know it's not Grass/Ground?

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>>27523640

>mega salamence
>OU

Please stop, this is embarrassing.

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>>27522443
>grassfag
>favorite animal is an owl
>Rowlet's final evo is the least bad of the three

Now I just need to think of what Guardians of Ga'Hoole character to name it after

>>27523673
Obviously being uber I mean it's good enough to be OU or above you dense fuck, the argument I'm making here is that Rowlet3 won't go beyond UU at the very most.

>>27523821
Name it after he main characters brother with the mask. I read the first couple books long ago but I forget the names.

>>27523860

The argument he's making is that Rowlet3 has to be as good as the most broken piece of shit in the game to be considered above decent.

Comparing capabilities to Mega Salamence is stupid.

>>27523911

*you're making

>>27523898
Kludd? Nah he's a shithead. I might do Twilight, Digger, or Theo. Twilight for his big size, Digger for the long legs, or Theo because Theo was cool.

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I want its HA to be something camouflage or sniper related - allowing it to attack enemies past protect/substitutes or you could go with an accuracy route and give it a clone of that ability that boosts accuracy whose name I forget

Or you could do something like a surprise attack where it gains priority on the first hit it makes if the opponent's pokemon has entered on the same turn, effectively giving it priority for the turn if you lead with it or making for a very strong lategame sweeper where it would just be able to chain attacks with priority as long as it was able to finish each weakened opponent off in a single hit each.

I really like that last idea.

>>27523860
>700 bst mon with godlike STAB, ability, movepool and stat spread is going to be better than a starter

Surprising literally noone.

>>27522603
Why Mallow over Alolagirl? Im just curious

>>27523950

Considering gen 6 starters they will probably get unique abilities, or at least new ones. Robinhoot could easily get Stakeout.

>>27523950
Watch it get Sniper.

>>27523173
Because for the most part, starters got shit or average HAs. The only exceptions were
>Greninja
>Chesnaught
>Serperior
>Blaziken
>Feraligatr
>Venusaur
>Blastoise

Thats 7/18 starters, and considering how rarely weather is used in lower tiers, that number gets knocked down to 5/18 since Venusaur and Blastoise are better using their megas

>>27523950
If they're keeping the RPG theme from Gen6 I wouldn't mind having "Opportunity Attack" as a HA
>Hits with maximum priority on enemies switching out
Think Pursuit's priority on any single-turn attack but without the damage boost (obviously).
>Doubles with Gumshoos and Robinhoot
>Enemy tries switching out, Opportunity fucks him up
>switch-in dies from Stakeout
>repeat

>>27522659
>Like back in Sinnoh when he had both Turtwig and Chimchar
Yeah, not out of lack of choice or anything.
What grass type was he seriously going to choose that wasn't connected to a pokemon from a previous gen?
What was his fire type options other than Chimchar? Ponyta?

The only way I see them going this route is if GF has given Alola literally no other fire types aside from the starter and Salandit-- which is being reserved for Team Rocket or something

You people are really this gullible?
I didn't believed it would get this far... Yes, I made this, and posted them in 4ch but didn't expected it to be taken seriously.

Don't you believe me? lets start with the rowlet evo.
If you look at the pose, it is roughly the same as Tranquill, one wing held out.
Another similitude with Taillow is the face, look closely, they have that same 'shape'.
And third, I copied Swadloon, and then changed it to look different, and changed the Swadloon antenna for a feather.
The feet and lower body were inspired by aerodactyls feet, except i changed them to look more feathery

Now, let's move on to the litten evo. It was based on Machoke, if you look closely, both have the same body type. I made the arms and legs thinner tho.
Second, it has some sort of fluff coming out of its cheeks, kinda like Delphox.
And third, I copied the feet and tail from persian, but changed them a little bit and straightened the tail.

Finally, popplio final evo. It was made to resemble Florges, look at its lower body, the evo's lower body is really florges body, then I proceeded to erase Florge's leafs.
Second, the slender body and girly face were made to resemble Mienshaos face.
And finally, mienshao's strange arms were the inspiration for popplio final evo's fins, and the 'bra' and hair was inspired by florge.

The point of this is, get over it, they are fake.

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>>27524309

>gamefreak bias

Luchatigre was the only one shown with Ash and the gang. He's the new Greninja.

>>27523950
Infiltrator

>>27523950
I could see it getting a more upgraded version of Skill Link, where moves hit five times and get a multiplier boost along the lines of tough claws/mega launcher

Or give it something like Tinted Lens or Moxie, to add some flavor to the fact it has glasses

>>27523333
Sorry mr Quads but youre dumb if you think M-Fug can actually handle everything ever

>>27524386
Does Infiltrator bypass protect? I thought it only went past sub and screens. I was basically just thinking of a slightly better version of it.

>>27523640
>ELO
>he thinks Elo is an acronym

>>27522370

>clearly the fastest of the three, meaning at least 100 speed
Litten is the fastest as for E3 and you shouldn't jump to conclusions until we know their stats.

Both, base stages and final stages tend to be the fastest of the bunch (charmander, cyndaquil, treecko, chimchar, snivy and froakie) so I don't see why they'd change that.

>perfect neutral STAB coverage barring Steel
Zapdos and Thundurus

>Grass type guarantees Swords Dance

First, it needs the slot for that. Reminder most physical attackers struggle with slots and still can't cover some scenarios; See Mega-medicham.

Also now we're on the physical-attacker subject; that makes it susceptible to intimidation, burns, etc.

>immune to ground, most hazards and grass status
Weak to sneaky plebbes which is the most common hazard;

TL;DR this owl needs life support in order to be at least decent, the typing cripples it so much.

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>>27524492
>>27524451

>abilities that are straight up upgrades of different abilities

Name one.

>>27522700
Fuck man I feel you

I caved last gen and did my first play through of x with an all fire team because I needed to use both pyroar and talonflame

>>27524532
>>27524532
>Weak to sneaky plebs

Owl confirmed for shittier

Alright guys, what do you think is the best "standard" competitive starter? My bet is on Swampert. It's not uber like Blaziken or Greninja, and it is usable and competent by itself unlike the Zards and Venusaur. For Rowlet3 to be decent, it has to stack up well next to Swampert

>>27524537
Tough claws does literally everythign Iron Fist does, a thousand times more, AND provides a bigger boost.

>>27524537
Desolate Land vs Drought

>>27524537
Guts is better than Toxic Boost

>>27524532

All of those Pokemon maintain their sleek design next to their counterparts. Litten becomes big and bulky. Oshawott and Tepig start at the same speed but Emboar is slower.

Swords Dance is hardly a waste of a slot, especially with its broad neutral STAB. Talonflame gets away with just Brave Bird a lot of the time, and not just because of priority but power (despite 81 attack).

Physical is a boon because special flying types suck dick, and again it can boost properly, unlike say Mega Sceptile.

Don't just discard its immunities because of pebbles, they are valuable.

>>27524537
>Drizzle > Primordial Sea
>Drought > Desolate Land
>Iron Fist > Tough Claws
>Poison Touch > Poison Point
>Toxic Boost > Guts
>Hustle > Sheer Force

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>>27522370
Shit design though

>>27522443
>the best

Pfffft Phhhhbbbt

>>27524703

>Poison Touch > Poison Point

are you retarded

also primal weathers are not a straight upgrade, as they don't remain after they switch out.

>>27524722
>Shit design

Are you referring to Owltair?

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>>27524722
>posts a completely different design from the OP that bears zero resemblence aside that it has a cloak

>>27524571
Serperior.

>>27524571

Empoleon.

>>27524765
Nope, it's the better execution of the concept, even if it doesn't look like a Pokemon

>>27524768
Because it's better

>>27524783
True, thats also a fair contender. I was mainly going for a vanilla, non HA starter, but that works too. Essentially, Rowlet 3 has to be as good as those 2

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>>27524309
>>27524334

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this is a great gen for flyingfags

hoping this lil nigga gets a cool evo too

>>27524798
>it's the better execution of the concept

It doesn't even look like an owl, let alone a ranger.

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>>27524798
if you say so anon

What about Stakeout? Would fit and be extremely good too, if Owl gets Brave Bird and fighting coverage you should easily be able to force switches.

>>27524571
It's contrary Serperior.

>>27524803
Empoleon it is if no HA. Pretty good even in OU right now.

>>27523514
>tfw Simisage has Nasty Plot
>Its movepool, especially Special, is as shallow as a puddle

>>27522370
Most likely the strongest starter this gen is Popplio3 because Water/Fairy is a great offensive and defensive typing. It'll likely have high special attack and special defence.

>>27524245
You forgot Infernape

>>27524944
>the strongest starter this gen is Popplio3

Yes, but this thread is about owl being "at least decent."

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>yfw mermaid gets dazzling

i wouldn't put it past that water loving fuck masuda to make the water starter god tier

Alright, so Serperior, Swampert, Empoleon, and Infernape seem to be the general consensus for the average good starter. I'm excluding Contrary Serp for the moment since i'm going for a vanilla base mon. How do you guys think Rowl3t will be compared to defensive poleon, offensive ape, and balanced pert?

>>27524820
Sure it's a bit too humanoid but if you took the wings and redesigned them to be more traditional it'd be so far out of archer owls league you couldn't touch it

>>27525065

Overgrow owl will probably be worse than those three. HA might be about the same, maybe slightly better.

Tiger might be another Bisharp, though I don't see it with Swords Dance or Defiant.

Poppmaid will probably be the best like the other anon said. Bulky special attacker with Moonlight or something.

>>27525219

Wings still wouldn't make it an archer. How could it be a better execution of the concept?

pretty sure according to the "demo"

Both attack stats don't even exceed "90" so rowlett seems like a slower Serperior if anything

>>27525780
I can see Tiger becoming similar to Blaziken and Nape; mixed attacking, but with 120ish focus on physical attack and with decent 100ish speed. I would have given it a slower speed stat, but the e3 trailer showed it being the fastest out of the 3

Poppomaid will be similar to Empoleon, but will have 70ish speed like Samurott

No clue what to say about Owl. It feels like it should be the fastest, but will probably be middle speed. I can see it having a physical focus with the arrows, and having fat HP with low defenses like Emboar.

>>27525890

Popp will probably have less Attack than Empoleon and more special/bulk. And its type will be ridiculous, especially with potential recovery, which penguin doesn't have.

>>27522700
There's two right ways to play imo: balanced team or monotype team. With the lot of fairies on this gen, I'm going for a monotype-Fairy run. I suggest you to do a monotype-Grass run. Enjoy Lurantis and other new-forms.

>>27525992
What recovery move would it get anon?

Also I take the arrow thing about Rowlet back. Arrow could go either way with physical or special focus.

They are all humanoid so it is easy to Synchro with them.

>>27526116
>Z-move
BTFO.

>>27525818
Sure it could, it could pull the arrows out of downy feathers, instead of terrible design patterns

>>27526046

Milotic gets Recover for no good reason, since it's not thematic for oarfish to regenerate. But barring that, it could get Moonlight as a fairy type.

>>27526146
Bond transformations are still coming for the starters and rockruff

>>27522430
Mixed?

>>27526186

There's no bow or arrow incorporated in its design. It looks more like a knife thrower. It's up to you if you prefer that, but that's not a "better execution of the concept" if it's a different concept altogether.

>>27526256
The bow isn't incorporated, but the arrow is. Archery can be seen as a more advanced type of knife throwing,

>>27526256
It still fits the fast rogue type

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>>27526291
>throwing arrows

Now you're just reaching.

>>27526330
>launching a sharp object with the intent of piercing

Right, how foolish of me

>>27526341
>throwing arrows is a better concept of an archer than shooting them with a bow

anon

>>27526330
>what is a swiss arrow

>>27526375
You're stuck on the "archer part"

>>27523466
Physical grass types get things like Earthquake. You know, moves from OTHER types.

Meanwhile, special grass types rarely, rarely get anything that isn't a grass type move. Universally awful coverage.

>>27526855

I seriously doubt a bird is going to get Earthquake.

>>27524537
Adaptability in better than swarm, overgrow, torrent and blaze in every way shape and form

>>27526855
While there's no way in hell Rowl3t will get EQ, it definitely has a chance of getting a fighting move. Thats pretty much all it needs, since grass/flying/fighting has good coverage. And whatever boosting move like SD or roost

>>27526881
thousand arrows

>>27522370
"vulpix used ice beam"
"vulpix used Flamethrower"

>>27524537
bewears fluffy ability is literally just a worse furcoat

>Swinub used Powder Snow!

>>27526889

Adaptability only boosts moves by 33% anon, or from 1.5x to 2x. Overgrow boosts from 1.5x to 2.25x.

>>27526881
Earthquake is an example. Physical grass types usually have shitty movepools compared to other types, but compared to special grass types, they're practically smeargle.

Special grass types don't even have the possibility of having a movepool. Making Rowlet3 a special attacker will make him into another meganium.

I could see Robinhoot getting Stakeout considering it's a sneaky archer that hides in trees waiting for its mark.

I could also see tinted lens.

Poppmaid has a big chance of having Dazzling.

Litten3. I have no clue.

>>27526925

Wrong. Fur Coat only halves physical moves, and moves that deal physical damage like Psyshock. Fluffy halves CONTACT moves, including special ones like Grass Knot. Different dynamic.

I wonder if the Litten evo had the most effort put into it or the Rowlet.

They're both very detailed, regardless of whether you like their design or not.

>>27526900
Depends on the fighting move. Here are what I can see it getting

>PuPunch
>Brick Break
>Double Kick
>Focus Blast
>Low Kick
>Rock Smash

Aside from Low Kick, none of those are particularly impressive since its agreed that CC and HJK are the best fighting moves. PuP can be useful, but SD is better. Brick Break if youre desperate, Focus Blast if it's special attack is above 90

>>27527015

It could get Jump Kick.

>>27527015
I could see it getting aura sphere.

>>27522430

Litten 3 is more likely to be physical, so maybe Speed followed by Attack. Kind of like Greninja vs Delphox.

>>27527050

Litten's speed won't be higher than its attack. It will probably have almost the same spread as Blaziken.

>>27527077
Litten was the fastest starter in the battle royale.
It's probably gonna have a stat distro most like infernape

>>27527045
You wish.
Aura Sphere is reserved for good designs only.

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>>27527121

>Lucario
>good design

>>27527158
Just because it's a meme to hate it here, and just because it's forced in the games doesn't make it a bad design.
Sorry!

>>27527121
name ONE (1) pokemon design that learns aura sphere that doesn't look like dogshit

>>27527170

You're right. The fact that it's a buttugly deviantart sanic OC that doesn't look like its type makes it a bad design.

>>27527077

No, I was talking about Rowlet being fast. Kind of like how Greninja was faster than Delphox but had less Special Attack.

I forgot about Litten in the Battle Royale though. Might not mean anything.

His design is awesome. Easily the best of the three. Confirmed starter.

>>27527171

Blastoise
Mewtwo
Mienshao
Clawitzer

>>27527171

Mienshao.

Name ONE (1) gen 7 grass starter that doesn't look like dogshit.

>>27527330
Rowlet

>>27527330

You lost your credibility when you called Lucario a good design.

>>27522370
I hope so.

He's by far the best starter of this gen, the other two are shit, especially the gay clown seal

So did we determine that owl will probably be the worst competitively, but still decent enough for UU?

>>27527317
His design is terrible. Easily the worst of the three. I'd box him, but it'd be an embarrassment to even have him.

>a grass type
>doesn't have any mushroom traits
>will probably be special attacker

wew, this thing's movepool doesn't stand a chance

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>>27527385
>worse than Poppmaid

Do you have some butthurt vendetta against this thing?

>>27527384
>tiers

Tiers are for queers

>>27527404
But anon, you're wrong. Poppmaid is the best looking of the three crap designs, and not even because I particularly like it, it's just better, simpler

>>27527384

Impossible to know. The only thing we know is that it's an archer and it hates ice moves. Its cool aesthetic might lead to it getting preferential treatment from GF, but that's just speculation.

>>27527441
>simpler
>covered in the most useless junk with the most awkward, oblong anatomy

Yeah nah. It clearly had the least effort put into it.

>>27527532
>covered in the most useless junk with the most awkward, oblong anatomy
I'm glad we agree about the owl

>>27527568

What part of the owl is useless? It all contributes to its well-defined archery concept. Poppmaid is just vaguely oceanic garbage tacked on a giant condom.

>>27526941
Show me one pokemon with 0 weaknesses, faggot.

>>27526900
>>27527463

I'm not so sure about ground or fighting coverage, but I could see it getting a "steel arrow" type move to deal with ice types, and fairies while we're at it.

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>>27527623
>vaguely oceanic garbage

And the owl isn't
>vaguely forest garbage

You're full of shit, the mermaid is bland but that's what works for it, the owl looks like Disney tried to design owltair (edgy) and failed miserably

>>27522370
I want fanart of this glorious bird.

>>27527798
Any pure electric type holding an Air Balloon

>>27527798
Elektross

>>27522517
>the joke.jpg
>>27524175
Mallow next to Cat3 and Ash is what confirmed. It also means Cat3 is going to be Ash's fully-evolved.
>>27524812
kek
>>27526291
>"Like everything else in life, pumping is just a primitive, degenerate form of bending."
>>27527170
The man looks like a fursona, dude.

Anons, post a hypothetical moveset that could potentially make Rowl3t OU or at least UU

>Tinted Lens
>Leaf Blade
>Brave Bird
>Low Kick
>Swords Dance

>>27528147
it's gonna get its own arrow move

>>27528037
Its weakness is getting outspeeded by literally everything.

>>27528207
I predict it to be around 110 if it is the fast starter, or 95ish if it isnt. No way its going to be below 90

This evolution have 114 speed

>>27527847
>vaguely forest garbage

There's nothing vague about it, it's a leafy hood that immediately evokes its type and concept, and by extension fighting style. Poppmaid's clutter doesn't do the latter two. At best it shows that its "girly" which hardly what you would call a strong theme.

Funny that you mention Disney when Poppmaid just looks like a poor man's attempt at The Little Mermaid.

>>27522370
Litten is the fastest, get rekd.

>>27528372
Nope, poppmaid is a nice execution of the it just gets bigger stereotype: depending on the middle evolution phase that Desir depending on the middle evolution phase that design works for number of fundamental reasons that the owl fails it for instance the added theme of archery is only present in the final form, where poplio only ever tried to be a seal with a frill collar, and popmaid, while admittedly being girly, doesn't take that design and try and force it, it's a natural progression

Owl looks convoluted, cluttered, confused, and cartoony

>>27528889
>defending "it just gets bigger"
>defending "bland" earlier, "it just works for it," yet somehow owl doesn't work for it

Yeah, this doesn't reek of bias at all.

>Poppmaid
>not cluttered, cartoony and confused
>doesn't try to force being girly

Are you being ironic or are you really this clueless?

>>27528952
It's not forcing being girly, pick something else if you don't like it, just don't pick owl because it's a shit design :^)

>shitting on it just gets bigger
This is the basis of all Pokemon evolutions, even the Pokemon you would think defy this trope embody it at least minimally. Sure, gyrados is blue and magic arp is red, but when you think about it, the lips, spiky fine, the whiskers, the segmented body portions, they're an extension, a big-ified version of the features that existed in the base form

To hate this idea is the embodiment of being a contrarian, and explains why you like shit owl

>>27529171
>it's not forcing being girly

You're not even trying. Claiming the owl is forcing something while denying that, you're either a troll or a true idiot.

Pokemon shouldn't JUST get bigger, they should do more than that. Owl gets bigger AND develops in other interesting ways. Seal just turns into a giant condom covered in knicknacks.

Don't we know Rowlett has high defenses/HP though? I mean a tank archer sounds pretty stupid but this is game freak were talking about here

>>27522370
Ima get it and name it Archer.

We dont know anything about its defenses, but yes it does have high HP. That being said, HP isn't an indicator of tankiness. Mons like Emboar and Staraptor are all "fat" with HP, but have bad defenses. Rowlet could be a similar case

>>27529420

Might just have HP so it can handle Brave Bird recoil.

>>27529420
In reply to >>27529314

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>>27529410

Luna

Luna

LUNAAA

Danger Zone

>>27526907
Oh shit will Icepix get a different learnset beyond token Ice Moves?

How will this affect the meta?

>>27530659

Token fairy moves, obviously.