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How do you think Alolan Pokemon will or should be implemented in the TCG?

Would and should they be considered as different Pokemon altogether? Or should there be some sort of significance in the fact that the Alolan counterparts share the same species and name?

I think most people would agree that a Kanto/Universal Vulpix should never evolve into an Alolan Ninetails, But if rumors are true and there is an Alolan Alakazam, should cards that work specifically with that species like pic-related work with an Alolan equivalent? Should "Alolan" be a solid prefix like Dark or a subscript/trait like Delta or Team Plasma Pokemon?

I know all of this is pretty much autistic speculation half based off rumors and wouldn't even be relevant until at least a good half year later, but I did want to hear what some anons opinions on this is.
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>>27511924
make a proper tcg thread you nig
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>>27512714
What's proper? These past few threads have been random topics. Nobody cares about the general OP.
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It will just be delta pokemon all over again. It's not gonna be some sick thing for the TCG.
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>>27513103
If that's the case, then normal Vulpix will be able to evolve into Alolan Ninetails?
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Where can I lookup cards? There was a website that showed the card and the picture of it somewhere.
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>>27513425
pkmncards.com
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>>27513425
tcgplayer
bulbapedia
other buying sites like coolstuffinc, troll and toad, and stuff like those
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There's really nothing else quite like getting lucky in times of need.

>Paralyze that dangerous pokemon your opponent has out every turn with a lucky coin toss until you defeat it

>1 reward left
>Draw the only card that can save you and turn the game around
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What the fuck can beat Basic Green in theme format?
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>>27513326
I don't think so , maybe the names are going to be "Alola ____ " or maybe just like this
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I used to collect Pokemon cards when I was younger (Gen 1) and I have still have quite a bunch of them. We never really played the actual card game, we just liked the cool pictures and shit. I have no idea how this game works.

I just bought this since I thought it looked rad with Ampharos being my favourite Pokemon. Can I build a deck around him? I was thinking an Electric type deck since it's my favourite type.

I'm just looking at theme decks now, would they be a good base?

Any advice would be appreciated.
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>>27516480
Theme decks are awful and terrible for even teaching the game because they require significant investment and teach bad habits like unfinished Pokemon lines, way too many energies, not nearly enough trainers, no focus, and more.

Ampharos can be okay as a meme deck. Rough Seas and Exavolt can create a permanent lock to guarantee you knock something out. And if you're still alive you can lock the next thing that comes in too. You don't want really many other Pokemon because Ampharos-EX can set up all your M-Ampharoses.
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>>27516480
theme deck is worth the money even if you have to get trainers somewhere else to make it good
Go for it
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>>27516516
So are EX Pokemon the only viable ones now? Do you even need prevos to use a card? Are they completely redundant as well now pretty much?

I thought I would have to evolve from Mareep to Ampharos but I guess not then.
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>>27516568
Everytime
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>>27516480
Why are you trying to buy a deck? That's pretty much what would determine what is worth for you.
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playing P:tcgo and fucking hell match making is broken as shit.

New player and getting matched with players who have 4+ EX cards on their bench by round two
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>>27516863
Try TCG one, instead. PTCGO is terrible if you just want to play. TCG one allows you to build decks with any cards you want and you can face other people with them.
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>>27516863
Play theme decks until you build a standard deck. If you really don't want to grind it out, play tcgone. It doesn't take long to grind out a cheap competitive deck though.
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>>27516568
Most EXes actually aren't that viable, Ampharos included.

You don't need pre-evos to use EXes. You skip straight to Ampharos. In exchange, the opponent wins twice as fast as if you were playing non-EXes. But in return, EXes are the only ones who can mega evolve.
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>>27516939
played tcgo one first, but some of the cards (fates collide) were bugged so stopped.

>>27516966
still not sure how themed works, if you choose themed decks, do other players only have themed as well? I don't mind grinding, but playing one sided smack down games is not my thing.
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Got 4 origins packs and I am looking to buy special energy for a fighting type deck. How many packs they go for?
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>>27517041
>if you choose themed decks, do other players only have themed as well?
yeah.

>I don't mind grinding, but playing one sided smack down games is not my thing.
generally that's how this entire game goes.
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>>27517041
There's a drop down menu to select formats. Select Theme. You basically play at an advantage as Basic Green if they play anything else.
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>>27517058
1 to 3/4 energy sounds reasonable
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I consider it a pretty dumb design to make mega cards end your turn unless you run a specific trainer card on a specific pokemon.

Regardless the game still have some fun clincher moments. Too bad it's dead in my area and I still keep buying packs.
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>>27516863
EX cards don't mean shit, most of them are terrible and low rating players either don't know how to play or don't have good decks yet. Be glad you're not constantly playing against Night March or item lock.
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>>27517117
I think is dumb that there is a specific card for each mega evo, there should be a generic one for all of them
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>>27517200
What's the difference really? You typically play one mega line for consistency anyway. Sure you may open up a few options, but it's not that big of a deal. Most of the time the deck is built around that one mega line.
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>>27517420
I know its not a big deal, just feels dumb.
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>>27517148
They both get rotated in a month.
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>Playing Pokémon go for 5 hours
>Buy pack on my way home
>Get this

Nice
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>>27518790
HJR P4P5 X6U MQ?
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>>27517420
Something like Manectric would be super splashable and make more mega decks viable if not for that restriction.

I daresay that Sceptile's viability would go up as well.
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How do you calculate weakness and resistance in dual type pokemon if the opponent is weak and resistant to each of the types
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>>27518898
Weakness is calculated first, then resistance.

Also if you attack a Pokemon with 2 2x Weaknesses with a dual type that has both of those types, they stack, and it's 4x.
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>>27520167
>and it's 4x.

How can that happen? Pokemon only have one weakness at most.
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>>27520217
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>>27520414
welp my newfagness to the card game was exposed
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Can someone share their current Turbo Gardevoir list?
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It's possible to make a good Delta Species deck nowadays? There are any Delta Pokemon cards in the online game?
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>>27522347
Nope.
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So...
With the coming rotation next month what will be the best OP thing since Night March and Trevenant decks will be gutted?
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>>27524681
Some people say Garbodor. Some people say Mega Ray. Other people say Greninja Break. Not sure myself. I hope it's Greninja Break since i have it built.
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>>27524750
Doubt it.

Garbodor will be everywhere.
No megaphono means no easy counter to him. And he shits on Greninja Break.
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>>27525134
What does a Garbodor deck look like? I can't imagine it being that devastating. We've still got cards like Hex Maniac and Lysandre. I mean unless we're getting item locked, it's not like we need our abilities every turn. We just need to set up and have that one turn where we snipe the Garbodors no? I've just never seen ability lock being a big problem unless it was in the mirror where Rough Seas is counter-beneficial and they have the advantage in the entire setup.
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>>27525552
Hex Maniac also disables your own abilities moron, not just garbodor
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>>27524681
M/Mewtwo EX.
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>>27524681

Giratina / Darkrai / Garbodor will be the only deck worth playing, nothing else even comes close
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>>27524681
Garbodor + Shaymin EX+ some offensive EXs + non EX anti EX pokemon like Lugia.

Ninja Boy has potential but I havent seen any good combo to exploit it yet.
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>>27525679
Damn. Hope something decent comes out from Evolutions.
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If that guy saying "Generations is worthless" a few threads ago is in here: Suck my dick.

I pulled this.
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>>27526396
literally the only good card in the whole set
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>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/44636-ninja-boy-temporarily-suspended-pending-bug-fix/#entry495816
Looks like both new theme decks will be banned for a week on PTCGO.
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>>27511924
>How do you think Alolan Pokemon will or should be implemented in the TCG?
Exactly like Delta Species but with the design and a short flavor text saying this can only evolve from Vulpix A.
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>>27526475
>take the server down for 4 hours
>fuck up the only card anyone cared about in the set
>say you can't fix it for another week
wew lad
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>>27527117
There are many new good cards in the set.

Ninja Boy was the most notable of those but there are great cards overall.

Volcanion, Volcanion EX, Talonflame/Break, Pokemon Ranger, Yanmega/Break, Mageana EX etc
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First attempt at making a Raichu deck. Not sure if I want anything from Steam Siege. Anything I should change?
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>>27527548
Forgot to say it's for post-rotation
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>>27527548
>raichu break

for what raisin? You would have to waste 3 turns evolving and charging 1 raichu break with a measly 130 hp for a 170 attack.
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>>27527738
I don't know. I figured I might need the burst and that 130 HP sounded a lot better than 90. It's nothing I absolutely need but thought it was a just-in-case measure. Was also skeptical about including it. Not sure if I should cut or play one-of. What should I put instead?

Another Level Ball? +1/+1 Trubbish Garb? Max Elixirs? I'm thinking Max Elixir might be necessary for an instant attack now that I think about it.

And it doesn't seem like Parallel City is a good inclusion for Raichu either.
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>>27526440
>implying M Charizard is not worth a lot
And there is the foil energies which also is both worth a lot and I don't give a fuck.
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How fucked am I if I enter stolen pack codes from youtube?
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>>27528176
>stolen pack codes from youtube
How...?
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>>27528222
I paused and wrote them down
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>>27528140
Jolteon EX is worth 30/45 usd.
M Charizad 15-25 usd at most.

They are not even close to things like the 60/80 usd of the shaymin ex.
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>>27528176
You can't be this retarded. Do you really think that codes from someone on youtube are not redeemed?
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>>27528226
Wouldn't they already be redeemed by someone else then?
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>>27528248
>>27528254
Steam Siege codes
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>>27528231
>if they are not worth as much as shayminEX, ther are worthless
Nice argument there.
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>>27528296
Any EX that is useful in the game is worth more than any Generations card.

The only card useful for the game in the whole Generations set is Jolteon. You are better off buying Roarking Skies or Primal Clash instead of Generations.
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servers up when
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Stole a couple of Generations packs and managed to pull a Jolteon EX and 2 Full Art's.
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Holy shit please let me just enter the codes and sleep
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>>27528492
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Damn what the fuck. You couldn't enter steam siege codes before the patch. Someone else got them I guess
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>>27528342
You mean worth as in playable? Because M Charizard is easily worth $20. And there are the foil energies from Generations.

Also, this doesn't apply to everyone, but RS and PC have been sold out where I live for some months now. BKT is the oldest booster still in stock.
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Seems like the theme decks are unaffected by the ninja boy ban.
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Scroll wheel hardly works when searching through deck. Fucking annoying.
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Is it just me not thinking it through, or are SS Foongus and Hawlucha actually good?
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>>27529553
Hawlucha is a level ball-able Lysandre. Sounds pretty good to me.
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>>27529553
>>27529607
Hawlucha is only a pokemon circulator, so an escape rope is usually just as good. And with Foongus, pokeball isn't a very reliable card.
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>>27525552
A friend is running a Turbo Dragon Dance Haxorus with Garbodor.

Since it's a deck heavily focused on evolving, in his second turn he's always going to have both Garbodor and a Haxorus dancing in your face.

Haxorus can one-shot almost everything after a Dance, and it only needs two energies.
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>>27529631
Oh, I thought Foongus referred to any type of ball card.
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>>27529631
Wait does Hawlucha give the choice to the opposing player?
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>0 FA Sycamores from 80 packs

feels bad man

gonna have to fork over 40+ packs for a playset
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friendly reminder that there are 9hrs left on the Steam Siege booster box on Massdrop @ $89.99
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>>27529016

No idea how they break random shit like this every update.

It's crazy how much is slows me down, especially in search heavy decks.
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Ideas for Talonflame?

So far in 3 games I've had running Talonflame/Volcanion/Entei I've started going 1st all 3 games and have hit Talonflame each time. Going first doesn't really give you an opportunity to use Talonflame, however. At least not in this deck, since it's plenty fast. However I completely underestimated how good Talonflame is late in games when your opponent hits you win N. The damage soften targets up and more or less forces your opponent to N again. Regardless, this isn't really the deck for Talonflame. It's really fun, but the use isn't really there.

Anyone got any ideas for decks that can use it more effectively?
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>>27529737
Nope.
>When you play this Pokémon from your hand onto your Bench, you may have your opponent switch his or her Active Pokémon with 1 of his or her Benched Pokémon.
It's your choice, the opponent has no say in the matter.
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>>27531252
Alright so exactly like Lysandre? Not like Escape Rope.
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>>27531252

Nope, your opponent definitely gets to choose.
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Ok, 4xGen, 6xFC, 6xSS

What do you want to ser first?

And damn that Blastoise is nice.
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>>27531322
Fuck off, it literally does not say anywhere on the card that the opponent has an option. You choose whether to use the ability when you play the Pokemon onto the bench, and the opponent gets to pick a benched Pokemon to switch in. They cannot say "no" to the ability unless they have no Pokemon on the bench to switch in.
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>>27531384
Generations. I want to see if you pulled something I'm missing
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>>27531440
>and the opponent gets to pick a benched Pokemon to switch in.

That was literally his question. Nobody in their right mind would ask if they have the option to comply with a ability.
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>>27531460

Meh, not even one ex. But that Articuno sure is good looking.

Now Fates Collide, 6 boosters.
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>>27531597
Ooops
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>>27531625
Both the Articuno and Zapdos cards look fantastic, that texturing is so badass. Haven't seen a Mr. Mime or a Gyarados after 24 packs, mildly jelly
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>>27531719

Yeah, texture is nice. I have the same on my Mega Gallade Ex.

6 Fates Collide gave Mega Altaria. Nice card. Still I don't think I'm lucky today and I am afraid to open those 6xSteam Siege :(
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Kek, both in one pack. Fuckers.
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>game rewards me with another pack for logging in again
what the hell
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>>27531180
Fossils Decks, since Talonflame will be your only basic.
That, or decks that exploit either Archie or Maxie.
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>buy 4 Floette packs
>get these
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decent enough? I don't have Shaymin.
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>>27533088
Looks pretty solid
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>>27533213
maybe less pokemon tools and more trainer's mail/ultra ball for consistency.

Maybe decrease energy count for +1 Sycamore , +1super rod/sacred ash, and +1 Korrina
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>>27533260

Birch for Sycamore? Or should I keep Sycamore?
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>>27533493
3-4 sycamore is usually a staple in decks.
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>>27533586
And you would have no other way of discarding energy for carbink's diamond gift other than the two ultra balls

You can also discard the items in the case of an item lock. Birch just shuffles cards and relies on a coin flip. If you get back your items and you flip for 4 cards you're fucked.
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>>27533586
K thx. I'm just scared I will burn out of cards too quickly but I guess I just have to make every Sycamore count.
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>new set out
>thred still ded

this might be the final days of tcg
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>>27535073
It doesn't help that theres two threads splitting everyone up
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>release day
>ninja boy already bugged

how long have these coders had to work on this expansion?
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>>27533088
do you really need 3 focus sash? 2 center lady?

I usually like to use a switch or even escape rope when running korrina as escape rope can win you a game, or maybe trainers mail

also only 2 ultra ball is kind of shit and 2 letter is also shit
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>>27530681
this set is shit though
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>>27524681
>>27524750

mega sceptile
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Why can't I use mental might in trainer challenge?
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