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Hype is dead.
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Hala is on the first island. He's literally the first "Gym Leader."
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Thank God for ROM hacks.
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You'd want an early game boss with a full team of 6 Pokemon?

Make a romhack and knock yourself out.
Something like Blaze Black will chase all the kids out.
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>>27482079
I just realized he have the ring
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>>27482105
>He's literally the first "Gym Leader."
No that's the trial faggots, the big kahuna is supposed to be the strongest of the island in other words this guy's position is at least equal to an elite four member.
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>>27482079
If anything this increases my hype. He seems like an early boss, and if the early bosses have three Pokémon then the later bosses might have 4-5 Pokémon like in Emerald and Platinum.
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>>27482215
>guy who you need to beat in order to leave the 1st of 4 islands
>at least equal to an elite four member
what a surprise, /vp/ is full of fucking retards
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>>27482079
I honestly don't care about the difficulty, we can fix that with romhacks.
I just want there to be content there to make difficult. I need some kind of post-game.
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>>27482215
>strongest guy on FIRST island has three Pokemon
Grasping here anon. No where is it stated they have the same power level as an Elite 4 member.
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>>27482215
>the guy you fight on the first island
>before you go to any other islands
>as strong as an E4
You're an idiot.
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>>27482215
>fighting an E4 at the start of the game
Ok.
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>>27482079
You fight him on the first island. Those three Pokemon he uses are probably the starters, even.
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>>27482309
You don't remember that time you fought Lorelei in Pewter City?
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>>27482215
>Island Kahuna

It just means that he's the first boss you shit eating faggot. Oh wait, you're a /vp/ regular, so getting BTFO and being wrong are the only things you're good at.

Fuck, you're already wrong because he's an "Island Kahuna" and not the "Big Kahuna," you stupid shit. You'd think that /vp/ fags would be a bit more humble after being wrong so many times.
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>>27482079
Pokemon is meant to play as Single Battles. Three battle spots are balanced. If you have more then three pokemon on a team; then you are a scrub.
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>>27482079
>Hype is dead.
It was dead for me when they mentioned the stupid trial shit.
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>>27482359
>be me
>playing Pokémon Blue
>fight through Mt. Moon
>beat my thousandth Zubat
>party almost dead
>exit the cave
>GARY MOTHERFUCKING OAK
>barely fend off his Level 200 Charizard
>take another step
>Bruno comes in to finish the job

They don't make Pokémon games like they used to.
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>>27482079
He probably uses Top Kek against you. Think about that. The thing is probably strong as fuck and you won't even have all evolved Pokemon yet.
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The amount of Pokemon he has doesnt determine the difficulty

The pokemon you fight and what their levels are do

I mean look at the Totem Pokemon

It's a bigger and stronger Aura covered Gumshoos that can summon wild pokemon to help that will either have Strong Jaw or Stakeout, both of which will fuck you over if your not prepared
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>>27482406
Then why do people always bitch about gym leaders having too little pokemons in xy/oras
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>>27482267
>I just want there to be content there to make difficult. I need some kind of post-game.
This
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>>27482427
>The amount of Pokemon he has doesnt determine the difficulty

No, but it's a pretty good indicator unless it's some fisherman with 6 Magikarp.
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People seem to forget that Hala has a fucking Quad Legend with him

>>27482408
>Hey weve made a million games with the same progression, lets try something new for once, it's still the same game

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CHANGE IT BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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>>27482499
>Hala has a fucking Quad Legend with him
Source.
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Nah i would rather not have filler pokemon

Like Clair having 3 fucking Dragoniars
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>>27482466
Whitney
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>>27482539
Do you even watch the trailers or are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>27482539
Hala is going to FUCK YOUR SHIT RIGHT UP, SEMPAI, with his fucking legendary Pokemon.

His other two shitmons just serve to soften you up for the main course.
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>>27482566
Oh please. In gen two there were only 2 dragon type lines and she had both (saving dragonite for lance).

Now with the sheer amount of pokemon we have, there's no reason that he can't have more than three without any filler.
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>>27482668
>>27482645
It's next to him therefore it must be his pokemon.
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>>27482466

The majority of trainers with 5-6 pokemon are like this though

There are barely any gym leaders that go past 4, Giovanni is the only notable one with 5, and also some Kanto leaders in Gen 2
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>>27482720
>Each of Alola’s four islands has a leader, called the island kahuna, who governs the island. Kahunas are chosen by the Pokémon known as guardian deities, which are also found on each island.
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>>27482720
It's in a battle screen, but you can stay in denial.
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>>27482215
No you fucking retard, there are 4 trial masters and 4 kahunas, equalling 8 gyms, Hala is the equivalent of a second gym leader and you are the equivalent of a fuckin downie.
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>>27482079
Hala is the kahuna of the first island. Assuming we get 1-2 trials per island, that makes him equivalent to the second or third gym battle, NOT a member of the elite 4.

Chances are you're going to beat all 4 island kahunas throughout the game, then get swept away for some plot related stuff, then finally return to have an elite 4 type competition with all of them back to back, where they will have more/stronger pokemon than they did the first time.
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>>27482427
>Fighting already Defensively powered up Gumshoos
>Calls in its buddies
>Stakeout immediately boosts all of those motherfuckers
>Strong Jaw goes even further
>rape intensifies
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>>27482787
>>27482817
Watch the actual trailer you dumbfuxks tapu koko is lv60 so unless you're telling me that we'll be lv60 by the end of the first island then it isn't his pokemon.
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>>27482897
Tapu Koko is Level 60 in an entirely different area you stupid motherfucker watch the trailer that you claim you've seen and then reconsider your status in life
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>>27482897
That's obviously when you go to catch it for yourself
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>>27482817
>It's in a battle screen
No it's not you dipshit, electric surge isn't active in that screenshot.
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>>27482466
No it isn't. The amount of pokemon has never been an indicator of how strong a trainer is, at least in and of itself.
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>>27482427
Holy shit I just realized this. They have Stakeout and Strong Jaw, which are both killer for a Nuzlocke.
>oh shit oh shit Charjabug is weak, time to switch out to Komala to keep him from dying
>Yungoos and Gumshoos proceed to anally annihilate Komala as soon as it switches in
Also, the Fomantis and Lurantis fight. They'll probably be charging up Solarbeams and Solar Blades while the others use status moves or keep up the pressure with Razor Leaf. Considering how wild mons had actual AI tactics in Horde battles (Seviper using Swagger on one another in XY and then eating Persim berries to cure the confusion), there's a lot GF can do with these boss herd fights.
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>>27482817
It looks more like a cut scene than a battle. I'm not sure where you're getting its a battle screen.
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>>27482406
>If you have more then three pokemon on a team; then you are a scrub

wut

You better be meaning as in "having a full team very early in the game" because otherwise you're fucking retarded.
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>>27482979
Tapu is standing in front of Hala in the screenshots that have been posted. In this game, trainers stand behind pokemon during battles unlike Gen VI.
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>>27483051
Do you faggots seriously believe that a fucking gym leader is going to have a legendary
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>>27482259
Gen 1 champions sure had a lot of Pokemon
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>>27482843
>there are 4 trial masters
No, there are more than 4 trial masters. Probably 2 or 3 on every island.
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>>27482843
It's confirmed that there are more than 4 team captains on the Japanese website. There's probably 16 to 18 of them altogether.
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>>27482979
Ughhhh, I'm getting tired of idiots on this board.

See that electricity flying off its body? See that pose? It was just sent out of its Pokeball (or summoned, or whatever, because I doubt he Kahunas actually capture the deities and instead just summon them when need be). Its ability has yet to activate. It will in half a second.
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>>27483108
>>27483115
There may be but you won't be fighting all of them.
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>>27482773
>Winona
>Juan
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>>27483164
>Source: my ass
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>>27483088
Yes.

Except Hala is not a gym leader. He's a bit above that. Same with his 3 counterparts.
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>>27483193
Source:The official website
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>>27483115
I'm thinking of 4 per island, plus the kahuna.

But maybe they are responsible of giving you the elemental crystals, so put one more on the bigger islands.
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>>27483088
>gym leader
No, those don't exist anymore. Considering that the guardian deities are said to select the kahunas, you really think it's wild speculation to believe they'll join them in battle? These Pokemon they've proven themselves to, these Pokemon with which they share a special bond?

No, you're right. This is almost as ridiculous as a 35 foot tall Exeggutor or an extra large Raticate that summons Rattata to help it fight in battle. Almost as crazy as not being able to fight the Champion at the end of the E4, instead having to capture a legendary and fight the evil team leader, who also has a legendary. No way Pokemon would do something unpredictable.
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>>27483164
>fighting
You don't fight trial captains.

At least not in the usual "battle them and defeat their pokémon" sense.
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>>27483250

From the wording on the website, there will probably be at least one trial that's battle-focused.
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>>27482427
>implying this game will be hard in anyway.

Even the "ultra hard" modded games are pretty easy if you aim for the right nature and EV train off the bat.
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>>27483193
Exactly. Also keks.
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>>27483250
>>27483265
This is exactly what I was trying to say.
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They really need to make "boss" battles set up like the battle facilities and online matches. 3v3, no using any items, set battle style by default etc.
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>>27483150
>this much grasping
Just stop.
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>>27482259
I'm surprised Diantha had 6 pokemon instead of 5, considering how terrible X and Y were
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>>27483307
They do. There called Frontier Brains/Subway Bosses/Battle Chatelaines
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>>27483265
That's what I meant by the "battles" against them not being like the usual ones.

There's probably going to be several trials that involve battles, like defeating certain pokémon using certain moves, battling only with pokémon of a certain type, etc. They'll be more than just the usual "hit them until they all faint".
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>>27483307
I explicitly only use Showdown for online single battles because of how much I hate the 3v3 format. Fuck 3v3.
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>>27483164
You will be fighting some of them, though. The fire guy uses a firey Marowak.

It looks like you race water girl, cook with grass girl, and do a puzzle for electric autismo, though.
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>>27483335
haha
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>>27482079
>that tfw when you >tfw you wanted a challenge but instead of the first boss having 6 Arceus at level 100 he only has 3 pokemon at about the same level as you
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>>27483333
Fuck your quads nigga. This shit is called logic. The background is clearly a battle setting. Hala is standing behind Tapu Keko, making it appear as if he's using it in battle. It makes perfect sense for him to be using it in battle because, hey, the Pokemon selected him as kahuna, acknowledging his strength.

At any rate, screencapped. November will be a fun month.
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>>27483377

His description says he's all about dancing, and his trial is looking carefully at dances.
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>>27482215
Actually he'd basically be the second gym leader if you're looking at it like that.
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>>27483369
Nice blog!

Enjoy your inferior 6vs6 singles format! :^)
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>>27483346
I already mentioned those, they are post game facilities not boss battles. Gyms should be like them.
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>>27482896

That's not how Stakeout works

If your OPPONENT Switches, your attack will double

Here's a more horrific scenario

>Gumshoos and it's buddies all have Stakeout

>You decide to switch out

>All of their attacks are now double and kill your switch
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>>27482259
Giovanni had two Rhyhorn in FRLG because retardation.
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>>27483369
>muh stall
>muh stealth rock
6v6 is hot garbage familia, learn to adapt
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So it goes
>2-4 trial leaders in yellow island
>1 kahuna (Hala)
>2-4 trial leaders in pink island
>1 kahuna
>2-5 trial leaders in red island
>1 kahuna
>2-5 trial leaders in purple island
>1 kahuna
>then whatever is the region's equivalent of a champion/E4
?
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>>27483451
>HNI_0006
>he's posting from the 3DS Internet browser
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>>27483414
>The background is clearly a battle second
We haven't seen elevated ground like that in battle, but we have in the overworld.
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>>27482427

>that will either have Strong Jaw or Stakeout, both of which will fuck you over if your not prepared

Mother of Fug your right

it may not say anything about the rest of the game, but Totem Gumshoos is definitely going to be hard just by it's abilities alone
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The trailer makes it look as if the fight with Hala will go down at around Lv25, 3 Pokes is exactly what I'd expect at this stage in any game.

OP's post means bugger all
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>>27483505
that's the idea as of now
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>>27483479
>tfw Yellow has the highest-levelled version of Giovanni's team
Yellow is the superior Kanto yet again.
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>>27483493
>muh Primal Groudon
>muh Mega Kangaskhan
>muh Wide Guard

Enjoy your shitty wifi battles that take 30 minutes.
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>>27483493
>muh evasion
>muh sleep

I can do this too.
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>>27482259
I hope that's the case. The games should stay at around Platinum level difficulty imo, Platinum was difficult enough to potentially be annoying sometimes but not difficult enough for kids to not be able to beat
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>>27482427

I like the idea that we are going to have "Boss fights" being a single overpowered Pokemon that can call support

Sun and Moon are really making Pokemon even more RPG's than they already are and i love it
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>>27483465
They are boss battles. They're postgame boss battles.

Wanting maingame boss battles to be set battles defeats the entire purpose of leveling up in an RPG.
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>>27483507
>Being poor is a measure of my character

At least I buy and play Pokemon on actual hardware. It's easier to spend $40 or so on a 3DS game twice a year than to buy a $1000 PC. Call me a poorfag, gutter trash, whatever. At least I'm not playing a broken Pokemon format. 3vs3 is legit.
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I don't think this guy is even the first boss, since he's on your starting island and the first revealed trial leaders are on Akala island. I think you have to come back to Melemele to formally fight him later in the game.
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>>27483284
>ev training off the bat
literally who does this
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>>27483623
Me too, anon.
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>>27483705
>formally fight him later in the game
No it's specifically stated that you can't leave the island until you beat the kahuna.
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>>27483705
You can't leave the island until you beat the Kahuna. He's the first one.
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>>27483663
he didn't say anything about your financial status,friend.
insecure much?
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>>27483713
I did a bit of that for my 2nd save file on Pokemon X.

If you catch a Pokemon with a perfect nature, why EV it twice? Especially now that we can max out IVs later.
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>>27483713
Me.
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>>27483557
The fuck has VGC 2016 got to do with 3v3 singles?

>>27483569
Both basically non-issues if you've actually played it
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>>27483762
I don't think you know what formally means.
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>>27483792
Why else would he mock me for posting from a N3DS? Maybe I was being insecure. But this is 4chan, after all. Most of the time we just shit on each other, anyway.
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>>27483804
because ev training in the postgame is so much faster that doing it at the start that it doesn't matter that you need to redo it
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>>27483713
I did it my first Y playthrough when Super Training got unlocked.

It was a mistake. Playing with Amie was also a mistake. XY has so many fucking traps that can completely ruin your playthrough by trivializing what little difficulty Pokémon has, and you won't find out until it's too late unless you looked up all the information before starting your playthrough.
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>>27483866
But maybe I am using one of my favorite bromons like pic related and I want it maxed out ASAP?

I don't always do it, but sometimes I do. 90% of the Pokemon I use in serious battles were IV bred and EV trained in Hoards while holding Power items with Pokérus, but for that 10% maybe I just wanna play Super Training. It's actually pretty fun.
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>>27483505
What about the totems?
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>>27482105
That's probably not right. Today's info states that each island has a totem and a kahuna, with kahuna fights coming after totems and kahuna fight is the end trial of each island.

The Totems and Kahunas will likely each be a 'gym leader' boss battle, one of each per island, 4 islands, for a total 8 'gym leader' boss fights just like previous games. But it's early, and maybe there's more that hasn't been revealed yet.

So the second 'gym leader' has 3 pokemon, and going by >>27482259 this seems right on track.
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>>27482408
This. Fuck this shit. We need gyms.
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>people not realizing the potential for romhacks with this
>the probable level 15 gumshoos boss fight is a mid-20s boss fight with some shit like a zangoose that calls in gumshoos
>having additional pokemon variations to mess with types and BSTs

gen 7 is going to be fucking awesome for romhacks
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>>27482079
>harder than GSC or DPPt
I don't see the issue.
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>>27484358

Yes, we know you started in X/Y, but those of us who have been playing the exact same shit for nearly twenty years would like something different.
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>>27484260
You fight a totem at the end of each trial, so you can think of them as the leader's ace pokémon.
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The number of Pokemon in a preview no longer matters since SoS battles are now a thing and not limited to totems only. There's a chance anything can SoS: wild pokemon, trainers, legendaries, or the player.
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>>27482079
>you are challanged by aloha snackbar halal
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>You'll never be the Kahuna of the Melememe island.
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>>27483003
Please Masuda don't step in and fuck this up because, "Kids will get bored of a challenge change it back"
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>>27483468
This will be terrifying in a Nuzlocke
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>>27483505
trials -> totem -> trial leader -> big kahuna
that 4 times, is what it sounds like
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>>27483003
Z moves will put an end to nuzlockes bro
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>>27485945
That and Z moves. They will probably be an instant death or at least a guaranteed switch out (which is a big deal if you play with no healing during battle)
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>>27486071
>>27486103
fingers crossed that not too many major characters can use them
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>>27486945
As long as their sprites show the wristband it might be possible to predict them coming. But even if you tank it, you'll probably have to switch out or fodderize the Pokemon.
Good news is you get your own super move too. That's a free OHKO for you in most battles, and with major trainers not usually having 6 mons, one free kill is a big thing.
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>>27482079
Please no not again. At least give us Challenge Mode back.
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>>27482641
Easy if you're not retarded. They literally give you a Machop right before her.
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>>27482641
Geodude
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>>27483347
>there may be an inverse battle trial captain
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>>27482079
>Using more than three pokemon yourself.
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>>27490216
>Using more than one pokemon
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>>27490291
>Using any pokemon at all.
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>>27490352
>Not hacking digimon into your game
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>>27483507
Can't make this shit up
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>>27482215
maybe they will change the rules and force you into a 3vs3 fight like the battle spot.
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>>27483287
> HNI_0068
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>>27483663
Why would you need a 1000 dollar computer to emulate Pokemon?
Are you retarded
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>>27482259
why are people not listing XY's Chateau versions of the Gym and E4 members but list the rematch of the others
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>>27491444
yes, he is. Stop taking is b8.
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the first gym leaders have 2-3 pokemon in like, every single game

wtf is this thread about?
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>>27483098
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>>27491447
This image doesn't have any rematch teams. Also in some cases the Cheateau teams for XY NPCs are worse than their normal teams, I think the E4 only have teams of three and Diantha only has a team of four.
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>>27491447
It's not listing the rematch teams of the others
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>>27483861
I feel you baby
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>>27491822
that's more to do with the Chateau mon limit, but they have higher levels
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