Find a flaw.
We competitive wise there's a lot, but I don't give a shit about that.
Design wise it's a 10/10 at least
>>27473080
It's name is sandshrew. I don't see any sand.
>>27473080
I can't catch one and use it yet.
>>27473080
ice steel slow
pu for life
>>27473080
>steel
literally an igloo
There should be a 90 degree bend in its eye.
Lazy fucking art
>>27473142
snow is basically cold white sand.
>>27473189
wut
>SANDshrew
>Shit reskin design
>4x weakness to fire and fighting
>>27473080
It's an igloo Sandshrew. What it attacks it lays on its belly so it just looks an igloo sitting on the ground.
There are no flaws.
FLAME BLAST
>>27473080
D E F E N S I V E
I C E
T Y P E
>>27473080
>ice/steel
>>27473080
pshhht nothin personel kid
>>27473189
This
Now I could realistically have a Snowshrew since my area wouldn't be hospitable to regular ones.
>>27473080
Close Combat/Focus Blast
>>27473189
TRippy logic, anon
>>27473142
It's in your vagina.
>>27473258
FIRE
I
R
E
>4x weakness
>so it must be bad! xD
Never mind this thing has a fuckton of resistances including a sexy 4x ice as well as a powerful STAB to go along a not-so-hot one, something most defensive steel types lack.
>Only slightly less than shit Rock/Ice
>Ability is Evasion in snow which is banned from Smogon anyway
>It's even slower which was the original problem with the line
>>27473227
Why they keep doing this
>>27473080
>Machop used Mach Punch
>Charmander used Ember
lol
bro
>>27473189
I shouldn't be laughing at this as much as I am.
>>27473142
I decree that we nickname this form Snowshrew.
>>27473278
ember/ rock smash
>>27473365
Maybe they're buffing ice? I can only hope.
>>27473347
It has two 4x weakness, Fire and Fighting. Types that are usually run by almost... well, everything.
Also is weak to Ground. No matter its defenses, any offensive Pokémon carries at least, one attack of those types, even if it has an optimal Stat distribution, is going to have a very hard time against everything.
Could be useful in Trick Room, but...
>>27473467
>Also is weak to ground
Ice and/or Ground isn't weak to ground though
>>27473515
Ice/Steel, my man.
I don't understand why they didn't just make it pure Ice. It doesn't have any steel parts.
>>27473551
And it'd make sense since Sandshrew is just ground type. I guess to maybe make it so both forms have an advantage over the other.
>>27473210
Adorable.
>>27473515
It's steel/ice anon.
Pls.
>>27473371
I was going to shit at its logic but is is kinda right, sand is pretty much calcium carbonate and silica crystals, and snow is water crystals, they just occur at different temperatures.
>>27473142
It's worse in Japan where his name is literally just the word Sand.
>Vanilla Sandshrew lives in a desert
>Alolan Sandshrew lives in a desert
>>27473467
hopefully it gets Ice Shard at least, seems likely
and maybe Bullet Punch, doubt that though
I'm totally gonna name this thing Coldsteelpssh...
It looks like and uncut dick.
>>27473551
the claws are steel tho
>>27473775
they literally said it lives in the mountains bruh
Number English Name Japanese Name
27 SANDSHREW SANDO
Hmm...
>>27473189
W E W
>>27474400
SNOWO
>>27473551
for that sweet Gyro Ball STAB with its nerfed speed
>>27473080
literally nothing steel about him
>>27473080
Steel is slapped on it for no reason. Other than that it's great.
>>27474556
that because it isn't steel type. only snowslash is
>>27474637
that's wrong though
>>27474725
holy fuck this makes no fucking sense now
>>27474564
>Sandshrew’s body changed to adapt to the harsh environment of the snowy mountains. The Alolan Sandshrew has a shell of ice covering its skin, which is like hard steel.
Its about as much reason as we normally get.
>>27473142
each snowflake has a single piece of sand in the middle
>>27473775
Ice cream is dessert, not desert
I've always thought ice should resist grass and dragon, but even those changes would still make this thing useless.
>>27473080
It's probably too cold to hug
This won't bring back AJ
I hope it gets heatproof. It could actually fit the design
>>27473189
Coldsteel the hedgeheg
>>27473189
woah duuude
>>27473080
>Body is hard ice.
>Enough reason to make it steel type.
>Not a single part of its body is actually steel.
Disgusting
>>27475250
Through no fault of it's own.
AJ's not coming back because the writers don't give a fuck about minor characters.
>>27474556
Who gives a shit?
>>27473080
He looks like he's all business, all the time.
>>27474725
>>27474787
I see it more as Sandshrew being part steel moreso than ice... just that the steel is so cold and so clear that it's also partially ice.
>>27474928
makes sense
I find it hard to believe this is a natural adaptation, since everything should kill it even in the wild for having that typing.
>three x4 weaknesses
Unusable, but it's a damn good design.
>>27476791
Fire, Fighting, whats the third?
>>27474725
>>27473080
Ice/Steel
>>27473142
>It's name is sandshrew. I don't see any sand.
Me neither.
>>27476828
Steel
Before Fairy type was introduced, this could have been disregarded, but now that one of the most threatening types in the game is weak to Steel, it will be a more common offensive move to be accounted for.
>>27476772
Just tell yourself that they started when Sandslashes started getting raped by Beartics again and again
>>27473080
>they couldn't have thought of this last gen
>instead we have megas as a stain on the games forever
>>27477020
>steel is weak to steel
???
>>27477020
Steel resists Steel you fuck.
>>27473359
>smogon
Wow. Look how little averyone cares.
>>27477020
Are you retarded ? n
>>27473080
What is this for? Why did they make Arceus digital code only?
>>27473189
Goddammit
>>27473080
Too fucking cute
>>27473189
Cocainum
>>27477087
>>27477092
>>27477109
For some reason I was thinking it was simultaneously Ice/Steel and Ice/Rock. Kill me please
>>27473258
Ice type is so shit that even the best defensive typing can't save it.
>>27473080
There are none
>>27473080
It wasn't the original design.
Alola Sandshrew and Sandslash > originals
>>27473080
It isn't real.
>>27473189
IT KEEPS HAPPENING.
>>27474400
Gonna name it SANDRO
Soiled it.
>>27473080
The eyes look out of place considering the shadow on its head
Other than that I love it
>>27477576
>implying this is incorrect
>>27477702
>Implying that ice spike is not the soulder spike
>>27477702
Its the same so its soiled?
>>27473080
It looks like an uncut dick.
>>27477979
It should be lower.
>>27477702
But here's another question:
Where the fuck is the mouth on this thing?
>>27478023
>preferring mutilated dicks
Will its stats really stay the same? If GF increases its speed it can actually see some light in higher tiers.
Also, what's its ability again? I hope it gets something good to balance the shitty defensive type.
Phymosis
>>27478135
Snow Cloak.
see>>27474725
>>27478135
>Will its stats really stay the same? If GF increases its speed it can actually see some light in higher tiers.
Anon... It'll be slower. It says that in the official site.
>>27473189
does that make water lukewarm wet sand
>yfw everything is some form of sand
>>27473080
Can't curl
>>27473189
actually, sand is warm beige snow.
>>27473189
>it's an anon is a fucking retard episode
>>27473189
someone cap this
>>27473080
4x weak to Fire
4x weak to Fighting
Confirmed slower than the original
>>27478105
below its anteater-like snout
>>27480675
>its HA is snow rush
>its pointless since its so slow to begin with
kill me, I really hope they do rework ice
>>27480771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEclir_vMyI
Not in the games.
Pause at 0:21
>>27473080
No pornyet
>>27480859
The point is generally you can't see the mouth of a shrew
although sandslash is a pangolin
>>27480919
I was really only referring to Sandslash, though that is interesting.
>>27481142
Pangolins are similar animals, however, to anteaters
they have long mouths that they open slightly to let their long tongues out to grab ants and other insects with
>>27481240
Neat. All I was saying though is that I can't find the mouth on Sandslash.
>Find a flaw.
lol I found two
>Tyrogue used Vacuum Wave
>Bagon used Ember
>>27473189
Yeah sure, whatever faggot. Next you'll be telling us the moon is made of clouds and not cheese.
>>27473227
It's still steel, which isn't nothing.
>>27473080
The igloo hoodie is a nice touch, Sandshrew looks even cuter now.
Also people should debate on Sandslash and Alola Sandslash form lines viability, both of them are known as shitmons, all have terrible stats and BST and medicore movepools, where the Alola one has a better movepool and debatable STAB over the Ground one its defensive type and speed are pretty much the new main weakness.
Best you can hope is Fissure + Sheer Cold scarf luck based sets.
Just enjoy their designs, I think both forms are quite good designs in general.
Just expect mirror type moves like Rollout / Ice Ball, Earthquake / Icicle Crash etc
he's a frozen ground type pokemon, and steel is just frozen ground
makes sense 2 me :)
>>27474725
i feel like they're doing this because they had an idea for an igloo that grows ice spikes and turns into a hedgehog but they already had a hedgehog pokemon
>>27473189
put me on the screencap
>>27473080
i literally love the shit out of this design but it's type and the logic behind it all is crazy
but it is so goddamn cute
>>27475289
Snow Cloak for you, sir.
Shit ability for shitmon
x4 weak to Fire
x4 weak to Fighting
>>27473080
Alola Vulpix is a snow fox
I like Alola Sandshrew but on what animal is it based?
>>27473142
Didn't they say sandshrew got this form after adapting to Alola's habitat? If you want to take Darwin's route, the sandshrew we know and this one could have had a common, typeless ancestor that adapted to the environment they travelled to.
>>27473080
I think that Iceshrew and Iceslash are pretty cool.
>>27473080
it doesn't look like a Steel type
Sad, I thought an Ice/Steel type would be guaranteed top tier bro potential but I just got Ice Sandslash
>>27473189
Include me in the /r/4chan post
>>27473080
It's just Sandshrew except a different color. I don't see the big deal is desu.
>>27473189
>snow
>not wet running lava
Brah do you even geology?
>>27482044
>Mediocre movepools
>Swords Dance
>Earthquake
>Stone Edge
>Knock Off
>X-Scissors
>Rapid Spin
>Stealth Rock
Is not bloated, but is far from shit.
If this thing keeps Swords Dance and for the sake of being Ice/Steel gets
>Icicle Crash
>Ice Shard
>Iron Head
It could be used as a slower Weavile.
>>27473410
I like it.
>>27473359
>10:02:
Those haven't been banned for years, 'tard.
>>27473189
>>27483964
Daybreakm's Joltik
>>27473142
Its said that these were sandshrew that adapted to living in snowy climate so they used to be sandshrew but adapted. Thus the name wasnt changed
>>27473189
Great, now my sides died and went to heaven.
if you look closeley you can see sandshrew's ears he has little iglo doors.
cute
Reskin of a better pokemon. Flaw found, wheres my 50 bucks.
>Ice/Steel
What else needs to be said?
>>27478097
how can you tell
>>27481680
yeah I beat flygon with my snorunt all the time
oh wait
>>27473189
>>27485274
cool typing
glad to see more ice subtypes
>>27473080
Look at the eyes.
>>27473080
>Ice/steel
making a good looking mon fucking useless is a big flaw.
>>27473080
I love new igloo Sandshrew and no one can say he's not a qtpa2t.
>>27473080
>favourite pokemon is Sandslash
>hope that one day he gets either a steel coat, another evo, or mega
>instead he gets a shitty recolor
Pokemon is dead to me, it was a fun 18 years but im done. I'll stick around for a little bit more to shitpost in the upcoming sandslash threads but once that dies down im gone
>>27485547
Just go now. No one cares about your autism.
>>27485547
Anon, now there are two Sandslash. How is this not a cool thing?
>>27473189
>>27473080
100% gonna be on my team. Sandslash is great too, but igloo sandshrew is just too good
>>27478183
>>27478194
>ice/steel
>defensive
>slower than normal forms
>shitty ability
Well.. yes, it's shit. PU for life confirmed.
N O T H I N G
*Dissapears*
>>27473189
>>27473189
>snow is found in cold deserts
>sand is found in hot deserts
Really makes you think
>>27485587
Its gonna have shit bst like the other one where another evo/mega could of made it actually better, the design does look cool tho but recolors is a new low for pokemon and then theres the displacement of the arm which bothers me and just shows how lazy they've gotten
>>27485547
1 less genwunner to deal with. Bye.
>>27485547
you could literally run both sandslash and snowslash. If that's not fucking based, I don't know what is
>>27485587
Carlos
4x weak to fighting
Shit stats
You're all gonna call him Iceshrew or Iceslash, right?
>>27473080
Still outclassed by Excadrill.
>>27485547
But.. he did get a steel coat. He's part Steel now.
>>27473080
Instead of designing a new pokemon, they just took sandshrew and colored it light blue.
Anyone who says it's a good design is a moron. Shrews have nothing to do with ice, for starters, and secondly, why would a tropical version of a pokemon be colder than the regular version?
It's not a bad design, per se, but I can't really say it's a new design. It's just an old design recolored.
>>27473080
>cute little igloo head
I FUCKING LOVE IT
another e p i c thread x)
>sandshrew is one of my favourite gen 1 pokemon
>they managed to make it cuter
GF found a way
>>27485547
You gonna miss all the fun
>>27473189
>>27473080
Why would a pokemon turn into ice type in a tropical environment?
>>27473080
There's no lava variant.
>>27485547
I like it because it reminds me of myhusbando
>>27473189
THIS IS MY RESPONSE.
>>27486297
>Palcomix
The anatomy on that image in particular is trash.
>>27486354
they were pushed outo f their normal environment due to volcanic activity
>>27473080
I originally didn't care for Sandsherw, but Snowshrew is adorable.
>>27473189
>alternate typings and recolors for old favorites>shadow pokemon return
>>27473189
this fucking nigger
>>27486610
Yes, please.
>>27473189
>>27477702
>BLUE ARMS
>>27473142
Can you point to the sand on a normal Sandshrew?
>>27486297
s-sauce?
>>27486983
not that anon but the point is that sandshrew is a shrew that lives in the desert.
alola sandshrew is not a sandshrew, as it does not live in a desert.
>>27473189
someone add me to the ebin screencap
>>27486432
But it's the lewd pic I have for a blue board. And it's a bit hot anyway.
>>27487275
Anon already give you a hint just type sandslash and palcomix on e621 or other booru
>>27488096
fennekin a cute
>>27473189
ZOOMED WORDS.
>>27482001
that makes it worse!
>>27473189
It's not hot and gritty and it doesn't get anywhere?
>>27478288
>>27478288
>air is like sand if it were hot
>highlighted in red
That bugs the shit out of me. Other then that 10/10
>>27488885
forgot pic like a fag
>>27473189
>Impling snow is owl
>Implying Owl is white
>Implying Sand is white
>>27473080
global warming
>>27488913
It's an igloo helmet
>>27473080
Shit typing, low speed.
>>27488913
Its based off a igloo
>>27488913
>hating the igloo
that's literally the best part
>>27473080
It's flaws are that it is not a Ground/Steel type and a 4x weakness to a very common move type, Fighting. Personal opinion however is I LOVE this concept of taking older Pokemon and newing them up. Well played Game Freak, well played...
>>27473189
>>27473189
I just don't get why they didn't give these unique typings to new pokemon. I dunno having different versions of old pokemon just kinda rubs me the wrong way. I'm sure I'll get over it.
>>27489286
>new pokemon looks like sandshrew but ice type
>ugh gamefreak is running out of ideas
>>27473080
it's face is an uncircumcised penis
>>27473189
>>27473080
Is it an igloo or wearing a coat?
>>27489666
I want someone to draw the birth of the first Snowshrew
>Sandshrew shivering in the snow
>Try to dig
>You don't see it anymore, but there's you'r classic lightbulb to tell you he has an idea
>Comes out wearing his Ice helmet
>>27489906
Go toTumblr.
If you got any reply plz post it here, that sounded cute af.
>>27488913
But the igloo head makes it a 10/10 cutie
>>27473189
>>27489666
I'd say a bit of both, Satan.
It's wearing and coat with a hoodie that resembles an igloo.
>>27489666
yes
>>27477702
He stopped lifting
>>27473189
>>27486407
Shaman King. Surprised I remember that fool, probably because I based one of my comic book characters off him when I was a kid lel
>>27473189
>>27473189
I think you need tocooldown there anon!
>>27490288
CARLOS
>>27473189
I'll make a screencap later, friends are over right now.
>inb4 reee friends, normie get out
>>27473189
Lemme in the screencap senpai.
>>27490941
Ok so here's my smug anime face, now may I please be in the screencap ?
>>27473080
Ice/Steel
>>27473189
Then why does it melt?
>>27473189
Does that mean ice is glass?
>>27480844
Not necessarily. If its speed drops to 50 (down 15 points), Adamant max speed Snowshrew in snow will still outspeed base 130's like Crobat.
Any below that though you'd be forced to run Jolly, and then it would be useless (Sandslash's BST is only 450)
>>27473080
Instead of getting new Pokemon, we'll get variants of old ones
Now this isn't a bad idea in theory but there are so many "Alola form" threads it's scary. What happened to just coming up with new Pokemon? Why do people want a Fire type Muk when we not only have Slugma but we could get a new Pokemon instead?
Less than 100 new Pokemon here we come
>>27490288
Someone needs to beat you until your autism is cured Carlos
>>27491328
>we haven't gotten a fire/ground glassblowing pokemon yet
So is the shiny going to be yellow
>>27473189
>all these meme replies
He's right though
>>27491755
Right. And chickens are dinosaurs.
Snowslash the hedgehog was my favorite game growing up
>>27492361
>Snowslash
>Not Coldsteel
9/10, Anon. Almost perfect.
>alola has a tropical climate
>sand Pokemon turn into ice Pokemon there
Explain this
>>27492361
saved
>>27492361
Yes
>>27492689
sand pokemon live in desert
on desert on tropical only ice
>>27473189
And owls aren't birds
>>27473189
WHERE'S THE SCREENCAP /vp/? FUCKING /v/ is BETTER AT THIS SHIT
>>27493290
i told you i'll do it later when my friends leave. it'll come in time.unless another anon is too impatient to wait then be my guest.
>>27473189
god is with us today
>>27491204
heat, sand melts into glass doesn't it?
>>27473189
Haven't had a laff this good in a while
>>27473189
Saved.
>>27473189
Include me in the screenshot
>>27485768
>deserts are places without any water
intredasting
>>27473080
Gen 1 Pokemon are always perfectly designed.
>genwunners were right all along
>>27473189
>first time visiting board
>see this
yup, i'm staying
>>27473551
The logic is that they now have steel-like hides that are covered in ice
Thus Ice/Steel
>>27494748
Kill yourself
>>27473189
>>27473080
Could have been the inspiration for a new and completely unique pokemon.
All these various types of evolutions, reversions, and formes are creating a cluster fuck with no consistency that chaotically will effect some pokemon some times.
here you go /vp/ is it memey enough?
>>27473189
>Avalugg is a cold wet Rhydon
>>27473189
Hey Reddit, are you enjoying this screenshot and reaction images you faggots?
>>27473189
>implying snow is sand
>>27474725
lol
>fav poke since gen 1
>finally gets some love
>ice/steel
>no actual visible steel parts
>snow cloak
>slow defensive ice type
>based off a meme
>is now a meme
at least it looks cool...heh
>>27494973
Please don't mention them it ruins my mood every time I think of them jacking off to their upvotes and treating us like animals in a zoo
its head is a fuckin' igloo
If the 4 birds are only in their forms depending on the island, and these are Alola versions of some of the pokemon- what happens when Sun and Moon 2 comes out?
>>27495404
>>27495404
or you take them back to KANTO
>>27494748
go away you gay faggot loser, we don't want you here.
>>27494930
I'm in it, so it's good.
>>27473189
prime logic here
>>27480675
Yeah, a whole 3 weaknesses and a ton of resistances. Terrible...
>>27485948
>not Snowshew
It makes no sense if you try to pull the Darwin excuse. For that alola form to make sense according to the Theory of Evolution, the Alola islands would have to be covered in snow, yet only a small area is. Sandshrews and Sandslashes would just move to wherever the ground pokémon of Alola live, since they're already adapted to that area and have skills to survive there.
Even if we create a scenario where there wasn't a ground type area in Alola, they'd never move to a snowy territory and learn to adapt, that would be a radical change. That would be like making them breathe underwater and become water type because they lost their homes. They'd go to the biome that resembles the ground area the most, so probably a jungle / forest.
>>27496274
Isn't Piloswine Ice / Ground?
>>27482502
Igloo
>>27485948
Chillslash
>>27496207
>why did pandas start eating a plant with terrible nutrition content while still having the digestive tract of a carnivore
Evolution does stupid shit in real life too. Plenty of animals overspecialize into stupid niches.
>>27496207
This. The way they try to explain the reasoning of them suddenly becoming the entirely opposite element is just fucking stupid. They might as well just tell us, "we couldn't think of any good ice type pokemon designs, so we just recolored old pokemon".
I hope we get some good alola form pokemon, because I really like the idea, but given Gen 7's track record, I'm not holding my breath.
>>27496274
I fucked up my formatting real hard right there
I wish it had ice/ground typing, I dont remember if i've seen that before.
>>27496284
>I'm an idiot. Yes it is.
I kinda like the revamp of old 'mons. It's actually something I've wanted to see since I was little.
Typeswapped pokemon with similar stats (maybe 2 switched), and an approximated/swapped moveset.
Didn't you guys ever want to see a pokemon battle a different version of itself?
>Mabye you were just an edgelord for a while, or you wanted to be original and didnt exactly know how, or maybe you even wanted a special-snowflake-mon to wreck everybody else's.
>Don't deny it, we were all that kid with something at some point, myself included. No judgement, at least from me.
> Also, igloo-coat-thing a cute.
>>27495424
Flowers in appropriate areas, in the style of eevee rocks for other regions.
>>27496397
This is more like if penguins migrated to the desert and evolved to survive.
>>27496445
That's... kinda happened, already. They still live on the coast, but Penguins do inhabit a few deserts. And I don't mean in that assholish "Arctic is desert" nonsense, I mean in good ol' sandy goodness deserts. South America, I believe.
>>27496445
That's tame compared to the things nature usually does already.
>cows went into the ocean and grew fins and blowholes
>giant lizards turned into tiny chickens
>some fish decided to grow legs and go on land
>>27496425
>ice/ground typing
Mamoswine?
>>27487323
>sandshrew is a shrew
(not true btw)
Snewshrew
>>27473189
im happy i came here
>>27489666
Whatever you say Satan.
>>27473189
This isn't even worth all these (You)s. Are we being raided?
>>27492361
This image deserves more replies.
>>27473189
screencapped.
someone make this a meme pronto
>>27473189
>I swear officer it's not drugs
>cocaine is just cold white sand anyway
>Ice/Steel
It was born to suffer
>>27496445
You realize there are penguins that live in hot climates right?
>>27473189
yes
>>27473189
>I don't like snow
>It's cold and wet and irritating and it gets everywhere
>>27473189
ok
It's pretty much Orange Islands Pink Pokemon level.
This game sure is looking pathetic. So much room for new Pokemon with this region and we get more form bullshit.
>>27494347
Antarctica is a desert
>>27473189
>another thread derailed by s4s memesters desperately trying to appear in a le epic reddit screenshot
wew lad
>slower than regular sandslash
>defensive ice type
>double weaknesses to common types
This poor thing will be as bad as aurorus.
>>27474725
Why would Sandshrew and Sandslash become Ice/Steel in Alola of all places? Alola is supposed to be tropical.
>>27497971
there's a snowy area
the in-game reasoning is they fleed volcanic eruptions and ended up there
>>27473189
really makes you think....
>Find a flaw
It's part Ice.
>>27476979
>>27494930
>ZOOMED WORDS doesn't have the words zoomed in on
fix it
>>27473080
Quad fire and fighting weakness=no/little competitive play. Other than that, not much
>>27477702
I just realized its claws would be good for climbing up ice. Good job GF
>>27485547
Doesn't like change, must be autism.
>>27486008
Complaining about icy shrews in a game with magical keys, gears, ice cream, a flaming horse, etc. is fucking stupid and you know it anon.
>>27498142
You mean
>it's part steel
>>27473080
nothing, It's perfect