Should ALOLA formes be considered Kanto Pokémon still?
>>27465664
(1 + 7)/2 = 4
Gen 4 confirmed
>>27465664
I mean, we dont count M-Ampharos as Gen 6, but a Electric/Dragon form of Gen 2 pokemon.
>>27465664
What? Duh. Its still the same Pokemon, just a different form. I don't think it matters what gen they were released. What makes no sense is that nobody knew this about these Pokemon for 6 generations.
>>27465664
Well most gen 1 mons aren't native to Kanto
yes, it's the exact same species just with a different appearance based on habitat
>>27465664
Do you consider Mega Gyarados as Gen 1's only dark-type pokémon?
>>27465664
Of course they are. They're regional variations but they're still those Pokemon and have the same spot in the dex.
I mean yes. They are still the same pokemon anyway.
Will it still be called SANDslash?
We need a major remodeling of the dex anyway.
>Nidoran family still separate
>cross gen evolutions
Why do they even just tack on each new dex to the end of the last? Why would the National dex be categorized like that?
>>27465664
Do you think we can use the Alola version and the Kanto version on the same team? Or would it void the duplicate rule
>>27465664
Reminder that GF has never officially acknowledged generational classification.
>>27466159
...Are we fucking talking about that?
Pokemon are indeed native to a specific REGION.
>>27466062
National Dex made sense in the context of Gen 2, but now they really need to make an International/Global Dex and have everything remodeled.
>>27465664
I wonder what happens when breed with the Kanto variant.
>>27466043
Snowslash
>>27466223
Yeah but Zubat are in Hoenn despite being called a Kanto pokemon. How do we know Zubat are anymore native to Kanto than they are in Hoenn?
>>27465818
I mean, they're adapted to a small, remote island chain. Makes just as much sense as Kalosian Pokemon being unknown.
>>27466387
>despite being called a Kanto pokemon
by cunts.
Zubat is equally Kanto pokemon as it is Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh and Kalos pokemon.
MAROWAK FIRE TYPE VERSION?
>>27465664
How am I gonna file these guys in my living pokedex? In the same boxes as my seasonal forms from B/W? Or do they get unique pokedex entries?
>>27465664
Both vulpix and sandshrew are Kanto pokemon introduced in Alola. They just got new forms.
Exeggutor is an Alola pokemon introduced in Kanto.
>>27465776
You can't keep mega pokemon, though, since it's a temporary form. These Alola forms appear to be permanent.
>>27466502
>YFW IT'S CHARMANDER WITH CHARIZARD SKULL
>>27466257
I would assume the mother's form is the one that is passed on.
>>27466502
>poi spinner/lava marowak
>>27465818
It's just that nobody talked about them. Like, I'm sure someone knew that Megas existed during DPPt, they just never met the main character and talked about it
>>27467301
Probably because they weren't invented yet. Don't worry dumbass, once more remakes come along they will mention them in some capacity.
>>27467301
You forgot about me already, anon?
>>27465818
X and Y might take place in a whole different universe, if the Delta story proves anything.
>>27466159
The national dex in xy/oras had color coded the pokemon based on what generation they were introducted in. If that counts at all
>>27467362
I'm not talking about the game releases faggot, obviously. Duh the real reason nobody talked about those or Alolan versions are because they werent made yet. I mean within the lore of the world
>>27465664
They're separate Pokemon, so no. It's not like a Forme where you can change it whenever you want.
>>27468262
Spinda's and Unown's formes are also called formes, and you can't change them at will either
Its not a new Pokemon, its a different form, kinda like Rotom, Arceus, Meloetta, Keldeo, Deoxys. They all have different forms
>>27468262
The exclamation mark Unown is still a Johto pokemon
>>27465664
For classification purposes they're the same Pokemon, like Unown. For all intents and purposes though they're different Pokemon though, a product of environment. Like a Nile Crocodile isn't the same as a Florida Crocodile. Similar enough but different.
>>27465818
>What makes no sense is that nobody knew this about these Pokemon for 6 generations.
Nobody knew about it because the people who made the games hadn't thought of it yet. What, did you just magically expect the developers to reference ideas that wouldn't be in the games for another twenty years? I hate to break it to you anon, but it's video game. It's not real.
Leaked typings
Fire zubat line
Fire cubone line
Water pikachu line
Fighting snorlax line
Ground lapras
Fire lickitung line
Water grimer line
Flying ponyta line
Fire bellsprout line
Don't screen cap this
>>27468693
>Fire cubone line
It'll be just a Charmander with Charizard skull, cap this
Are you guys actually excited by this? It's lame as fuck.
>>27468693
>Fire Crobat
If it has the same speed or better I'm totally on board for this
>>27468859
No, not really. I would be okay with it if it were just appearance differences, with one or two lines with changed typing tho
>>27468693
> Flying ponyta line
Pegasus confirmed