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Shake it like this edition. Old thread >>27404984

PSMD download: http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw (NOTE: The English upload is down for the time being, and I don't have a spare on hand since I didn't upload that.)

Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.

Exploration Pack (Sky, Blue RT, DS emulator, rom editor for custom starters, all WiiWare games region-free): https://mega.nz/#!Pt9GQZgR!KWFSUTYSh3ylhXFpbjozzzuAcC2-GaFhNaOuq67q1RM

/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u

Adventure Squad Menus: http://pastebin.com/ELBEWBai

PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-

Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA

Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ

REMINDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as American.
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I want to fuck Magearna.
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Side topic: Which Gen 7 pokemon do you want most to have a role in the next game? I think Mimikyu could be interesting

>>27432358
Well they're not in PMD, tough luck.
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>>27432395
>Well they're not in PMD
Yet.
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>>27432395
They finally gave me my favorite Pokémon in Super so now they can put in whoever they want. I'm sated.
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No seriously, what did she mean by this?
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>>27432488
None (of) ya (business), that's what
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>>27432488
Nonya means "none of your business"
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>>27432503
>>27432538
Wow, what a fucking bitch.
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Where's a good place to grind in PSMD? I just finished the game.
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>>27432656
Mysterious Geoglyph is great if you have a motivated team that can use Heat Wave.

Some anon was talking about Path of Fallen Leaves, but i have never tried grinding there
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>Just started playing Super Mystery Dungeon
>Instead of in Rescue Team/Explorers where the story specifically focuses around the main character and their partner, you can recruit a fucking level 50/55 Salamence and Dragonite within literally about an hour of playing and steamroll most dungeons with it

What the fuck were they thinking? Seriously, why wasn't this addressed? In Rescue Team and Explorers it was pretty much forced on you that you could only use your two main characters for the vast majority of the game but here it seems that the process is entirely fucked up

I don't like how they pressure you so hard to bring a third member with you, or mix up your team with those experience bonuses for using random pokemon as well. It keeps detaching me from the feeling of the main story.
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>>27432678
It's nice to hear someone else felt the same way. I don't necessarily mind the idea of bringing a third party along, but the way the game pretty much tells you "hey, your player and partner probably kinda suck, you should use all these medium/high-level Pokemon instead" just made it hard to get attached to my player/partner Pokemon the same way the other games made me. I can see what they were going for, to keep you from settling into one routine team, but it kinda... defeats the point of making a team you're happy with, you know?
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>>27432706
Explorers of Sky remains the GOAT then? Super doesn't get better?
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>>27432678
>you can recruit a fucking level 50/55 Salamence and Dragonite within literally about an hour of playing and steamroll most dungeons with it
And you'll never use them
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Of the three (four if yountingg Politoed) Dampmons, I like Golduck the most, but Quagsire's IQ skills seem to be much better overall, and both him and Poliwrath are dual types, meaning they can use more exclusive items than Golduck. Who should I go for?
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>>27432678
>>27432706
git gud, seriously.
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>>27432720
Better how, exactly? People contest Super pretty damn hard in general, and even though the majority seems to feel Sky is still GOAT, the people who are passionate about Super are really passionate about Super.

If you mean in terms of recruitment and that sort of thing, then no, probably not. You're constantly going to get encouraged to not use your player/partner thanks to the motivation system, and you'll probably only level your player/partner up to... 23, maybe? 24? I was level early-20s when I beat the game. Also sometimes Pokemon you've recruited will randomly take breaks to make you even less likely to find a team you'll consistently be able to use and enjoy.

I couldn't care less about doing the missions and recruitment at this point, so nowadays all I do is Pelipper Island.
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>>27432763
Quagsire's swap item removes its only weakness. Grass moves will heal, Water will heal, Electric doesn't do much.
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>>27432784
>>27432731
But it's possible to in so many of the dungeons and I already have been using them on most of the adventures between the time Ampharos first gave me the Connection Orb and just before the explorers' first outing. Most of the time one of them is unavailable the other one is available - It's extremely annoying and makes me feel like the main characters are basically pencil-pushers sending out other roided out Pokemon of far higher levels out into the field.

My partner always talks about exploring and we're meant to be really excited over filling out the world map and rescuing people together etc etc, why shit on that so hard by DELIBERATELY ENCOURAGING the player to use different, better Pokemon, and even then sometimes they randomly fuck off so that you can never set up a solid team that you enjoy and stick with? It's absolute madness and completely the opposite of the reliable comfy feeling that Explorers of Sky had

I really liked Super's slow beginning in the school environment, it reminded me a bit of Kingdom Hearts and I knew that it was foreshadowing something big, but since then it feels like there's been more heart in the very first chapter of Explorers of Sky with the beach scene and Beach Cave bonding than there has been through all of Super.


Again, my opinion about the plot as a whole is worth shit right now because I still haven't finished it, but with regards to the mechanic that A) Hands you extremely powerful Pokemon on a silver platter (Don't pretend otherwise, you can just spam wands on tough fights) and B) Deliberately tries to make you SIDELINE YOUR OWN MAIN CHARACTERS in favour of them

I just can't understand it
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So, how often do YOU survive monster houses?
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>>27432859
so much truth in this post.

when I first started playing super mystery dungeon and i saw that they had changed the reviver seed mechanics (or i thought so at the time, didnt realise they still had "real" ones) so that it didn't restore belly or PP I thought holy fuck this might actually be hardmode this is pretty cool.

then fucking level 55 dragonite out of nowhere, who the fuck designed this. Sky is best.
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>>27432671
That's me.

I only did that to get the Well-Fed Looplet and to see how much EXP I can get there in one session with a motivated Unown, but it's not really the best place to grind because of how that dungeon is designed. The huge EXP is nice, though.
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>>27432860
Never. Literally never.
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>>27432860
>It's a "Monster House full of mons who use 'hits the whole room' moves" episode
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>>27432826
Any advantages with the Polis, or no? Also just realized that Golduck has an ability that prevents weather changes, which is good if I'm using a flying mon with the gem, and prevents escorts' health from getting chipped due to sandstorms. Leaning a bit towards him right now, even though Quagsire seems much better in terms of overall viability.
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>>27432860
With a room-wide accuracy-boosted move.
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>>27432860
you tell me
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>>27432903
You get swap items that negate Electric/Flying damage, but that doesn't get rid of Psychic or Grass damage.
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Anybody know of a good way to grind for money?
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>>27432958
Depends on the game. If it's RT/Sky, find a Kecleon Shop in a dungeon and sell off Gold Ribbons/Lost Loots to a shop and steal them back. If it's Super, go to Super Apple Forest and sell off a ton of apples at the end. Followed by maybe stealing them back afterwards with a tm or two.
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>The entire game deliberately makes your main character and partner weak and irrelevant as shit so that you have to rely on other "recruited" team members

>The entire game deliberately makes your main character and partner weak and irrelevant as shit so that you have to rely on constantly spamming wands and blast seeds


How the fuck can Super supporters defend this with a straight face?
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>>27432990
You must have some shitty mons if you have to spam wands and blast seeds all the time. Either that or you're bad at the game or you're just new to the game.
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>>27432990
>>The entire game deliberately makes your main character and partner weak and irrelevant as shit so that you have to rely on other "recruited" team members

you can't use them in most plot dungeons.
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>>27432860
Most of the time, unless I just started and don't have the supplies to deal with them.
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>>27432990
>>27432886
>>27432859
>"Let's make this game a little more tough than the previous ones"

>Gives you Salamence, Victini and Dragonite before you're even at Lively Town


B R A V O
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>>27433046
>it's assumedly because of this shit that the break system is around

i like super but fuck this
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>>27433066
>i like super b
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super is best played using only the player charter and partner in my opinion
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Reminder that in Rescue Team your partner pokemon pisses in your face and fucks off after the main story

Reminder that the eternal order will always be Sky>>>>>>>>>>Super>Rescue>>>>>>>>>>Gates
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>>27433085
Well, yes, if you rely on lv. 50 Jengan early on then you'll be fucked later as the game gets progressively harder. Even at the halfway point there are dungeons where level 60 Pokémon can get wiped in two hits.
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>>27432859
>It's extremely annoying and makes me feel like the main characters are basically pencil-pushers sending out other roided out Pokemon of far higher levels out into the field.
>My partner always talks about exploring and we're meant to be really excited over filling out the world map and rescuing people together etc etc, why shit on that so hard by DELIBERATELY ENCOURAGING the player to use different, better Pokemon, and even then sometimes they randomly fuck off so that you can never set up a solid team that you enjoy and stick with? It's absolute madness and completely the opposite of the reliable comfy feeling that Explorers of Sky had

I could never quite put my finger on why this annoyed me so much in Super Mystery Dungeon until I read that
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>>27433167
>waaah how come I can't play as Mewtwo X right from the start
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>>27432678
The game prevents you from using non-starters after each time you use them. Also, why are you feeling like you're forced to use them? Just don't.
Also, story dungeon are still mainly starter and partner, and I haven't seen the pressure on the third member you're talking about.

>>27432784
>you'll probably only level your player/partner up to... 23, maybe? 24?
Experience is shared with the whole team.

>why shit on that so hard by DELIBERATELY ENCOURAGING the player to use different, better Pokemon, and even then sometimes they randomly fuck off so that you can never set up a solid team that you enjoy and stick with?
Why aren't you using your starters then? The game isn't forcing you to, and I have never felt encouraged by the game to not do it.

>>27432886
>>27433046
Which you can avoid using unless you want to make the game easy. It's Pokémon, it's not allowed to be "hard" before getting to the credits.
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>>27432930
Went with Quagsire in the end. Does Damp still work even when Quagsire's in a different room, or do I have to put her in my 2nd/3rd team slot to avoid corridor explosions?
>have to grind another party member
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>>27432235
Stroke it this way...
Stroke it that way...
And lick it all around...
Voila! He came!
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>>27433155
Not only that but they go on breaks for half the game
There's no raisin to even use the lvl 50's
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>>27433212
Well it's nice to have one survivor after some fucknut wipes teh rest of your party with Hydro Pump.

I think "not being hard enough" is the argument with the least amount of ground against SMD, I've died multiple times on the first floor and I'm a rogue master.
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>>27433212
>raisin
Are you forcing something?
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>>27433066
The worst thing about the break sustem is that it stays in effect after you beat the fucking game. Why?
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Reminder that you ought to be using Drifblim over Quagsire
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>>27433259
this
why don't we have a cheat to avoid it yet?
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>>27433271
But I already have one that only gets used in Level 1 dungeons. Anyone can oneshot enemies in all the other dungeons, so using a godlike mon doesn't make much of a difference compared to simply using an overpowered mon.
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Who else /stopped playing the instant the story was over/ here?
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>>27433362
Me, briefly.
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>>27433362
Your Partner if we're talking about Rescue Team
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>>27433403
God damn it
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>>27433208
if a damp mon is present, no matter what, no explosion
you notice this because enemies will tend to stop traps from clear across the map without being in the room
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I see people complain about PSMD's Gameplay. How it makes your main characters feel "weak" and "forces" you to use other Pokemon. And how it more item based etc.

But is it weird that I personally never had these problems? Never did I feel forced to use other Pokemon. In fact, it felt like I had more choice on the matter than ever before because you get new Pokemon so quickly. As for the more item based experience, I can kinda see that. But I don't think items are that much more important than the other games. And that's coming from an item hoarder. I almost never used my wands.

I personally think PSMD's gameplay the best because it felt more like you need to work as a team. Don't get me wrong, I like the gameplay of the older games as well just fine. But in the older games, I often felt like a "one man army" with your other teammates barely doing anything. In PSMD, teammates feel more active. Sure, enemy Pokemon have higher HP, but your Partner actively helps you with battles. That's how I feel at least.

The only few things I don't like about PSMD's gameplay is that the A button attack is basically useless (but to be fair, Gates had this as well). I wish the A button attack was more like a finishing move (that's how I used the A button attack in the older games).

Other then that, while I like the Connection Orb for the most part, I don't like how it's progression goes earlier on in the game. Like many people said, you get a high leveled Salamence fairly early on in the game which feels strange and out of place that early on. I would love some more reasonable progression in future games where you get lower leveled not as strong mons in the beginning. There are some other problems I have with the Connection Orb, but I feel like it would make this post a little too long. So I'll stop here.
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>>27433480
nigger I ain't reading that

cut down your point to a quarter
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Why is having a teammate with Damp so important?
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>>27433403
>partner is an enabler that gives you a free house at first sight
>goes with you when the town wants you dead, even though the other recruits don't want to be involved with that shit and the partner knows nothing about you
>cries his heart out when you "leave", but then immediately after tells you "other people can lead the team" and fucks off forever
What was with that guy?
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>>27433530
They made up for it in spades with Explorers, at least
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>>27433528
Explosions cut your health in half (if you're capped, it deals a massive 499 damage) and destroys nearby items, meaning you can get screwed over if an item you want is on the ground.
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>>27433518
Oh, I see they were right, /v/'s here. Please, improve your attention span.
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>>27433518
I don't know how I would do that while making sure that people still understand my viewpoint on the matter.

Also, it's a little odd someone would complain about this, on a general about a game series that requires you to read in order to understand the story. If it was a wall of text then I would understand the complaint, but I purposefully used paragraphs in order to make it more readable.
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>>27433651
I think he was joking because your post was actually rather short for someone claiming that they thought it was too long
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>>27433530
Well the second one isn't that bad, he's the one who spent most of the time with the main character at least. The house one makes no sense though, and the leaving the team is just a dumb gameplay thing that got its way in the story and I hate it. What I hate even more, however, is The rescue team member(s) dispersed to the Friend Area(s). If you want to add members to the rescue team, go visit them in their Friend Areas. EVERY TIME.
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>>27433790
>that
>only two inventory pages
>can't bring a 4th member unlike Explorers
>new recruits are mortal and will be lost forever if you let them get killed
>no new recruits if your party's full
>autosaving on a DS (though I do understand their real goal was to avoid save-scumming)
After playing Explorers and Super for so long, Rescue Team feels borderline unplayable.
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>>27433870
>autosaving on a DS (though I do understand their real goal was to avoid save-scumming)
That was a good thing that should be brought back.
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>retards think Salamence is OP
>don't know about based Rotom
Fucker NEVER goes on break and gets TWO (2) room-wide moves.

I swear you "levels matter" guys need to play the game more.
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>>27434107
Three actually, uproar, ominous wind, and discharge
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>>27434107
>Implying he has shit on based Drifblim from Explorers of Sky
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>>27434122
I keep forgetting Uproar does damage. I never looked at the move so I never remembered.

>>27434139
I still can't believe how real Drifblim Uchiha is. It's so goofy, I almost want it back.
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>>27433564
If you're a Fire type, you only take 25% damage. Still not pleasant, though. Some pokemon also have blue items that will reduce or nullify the explosion damage.

>>27433870
>autosaving on a DS (though I do understand their real goal was to avoid save-scumming)
And then they go and do a complete 180 on that and make an item that ENCOURAGES save-scumming in Super. I really wish those Progress Devices weren't the only way to save mid-run, though. Even Gates let you make temporary saves.
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>>27433528
imagine a pokemon blowing up on a good item, or a shop

>>27434401
How did progress devices even work? I never used them
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>>27434548
It creates a hard save you can reload I believe infinitely if you faint (unlike quicksaves that get deleted after loading).

>>27434401
Well you still have do give up if you can't do the thing you're trying to do even with savescumming unless you carry an Escape Orb with you.
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>>27434191
>originally set out to find a better pokemon than Smoochum for level 1 dungeons
>find the best pokemon in the game for everything because of it

Funnily enough both of them rely on evasion partly
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Dug this up from my old T/D guide. Is the accuracy part true? Only really heard about males' crit rates and females' evasion, but nothing about females being more accurate.
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>>27434676
None of that is true except for the visual differences.
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>>27434676
There's nothing about females being more accurate in my T/D book, which came with the preorders
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>>27434676
I remember this, I think there was also a gen 4 prima that claimed that male pokemon attacks hit harder than female attacks. Also the T/D guide had quite a few typos I believe
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+44 7908 187270 You can play with my poke balls
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>>27432983
Actually, in RT you can glitch the shop by putting an item on the carpet, quicksave the game, and Kecleon will give you money every time you talk to him as if you sold him more than one.
Got myself 30000 poke by the end.
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>>27434676
It's true that's why people use female Drifblim in lv. 1 dungeons.
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>>27434754
Is it only for pikachu though?
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>>27432235
Gonna ask this again from the previous thread:
>We had Rescue, Exploration, Adventure/Adventure Squads and Expedition Society teams. What unique type of team would you add instead of reusing rescue team, exploration team, etc?
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>>27435343
Pirates
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>>27435326
Nope, it's all across. I don't know how big the increase is, but after 700 hours i've noticed missing females a tiny bit more
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>>27435343
Detectives.
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>>27435343
I roleplayed as the magnemite/magneton/magnezone police officers in Sky once. I took outlaw missions and stuff.
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>Quagsire's Map Surveyor IQ skill still works when she's not leading
>mfw Wooperanon was right about these guys being good
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>>27435429
inb4 don't bother it's porn
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>>27435429
I told you about Woopers man, it's not all favoritism
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>>27433210
Underrated m
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Progress so far on Mareep's portraits (using Vulpix for comparison).
Hopefully everything here looks neat enough to be used. I had to redraw some of Mareep in others so the BG effects could be shown properly instead of the wool blocking everything.
I think my tablet mouse is breaking or something cuz now it'll randomly not click or it'll double click which makes it harder to draw. (And getting a new one of the same brand alone is fucking $123 on Amazon wtf)
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>>27436685
When you finish, please give me a download
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>>27436685
Looking good, anon. Are you just doing favorites, or are you going for something specific? I noticed both mWooper (his portraits were in the download too) and Mareep were Wiiware starters so I'm just guessing that's what you're going for.
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>>27436712
I will.

>>27436784
Thanks. I'm doing whatever is easy before I start working my way up to the more complicated mons.
I actually thought about doing Teddiursa next since it's also part of Wiiware's starters (but that would require more portraits since Teddiursa's face is asymmetrical)
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>>27436784
>tfw more portraits for custom starters is good
>tfw my custom starters are the ones people are making them for
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Once we have them, it should be possible to add all of the portraits for all of the Pokémon in a single rom without any problem, right? I think I've read there's space for all of them. It would be great to have it like this and have the beginning let you choose any Pokémon freely.
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>>27436982
Ah, okay. If you were doing requests, I was hoping you'd be able to do some of my custom starter combo, but if you're doing Wiiwares, filling up Azurill's expressions might seem easier, since he's already got some due to being a plot character.
Still upset that Igglybuff and Wigglytuff both have a slew of portraits, while Jigglypuff only gets one that doesn't even look good
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>>27437041
You still only have so many possible starters to pick from, even if you change them all. you can't have 400+ starters possible in one save, it has to be the normal ones edited to be a different one
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>>27437103
What? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.
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>>27435429
source?
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>>27437121
Sky Editor's startermod only allows you to use 32 different mons right now (16 male, 16 female), and still doesn't have an ingame character selector. You also can't have a partner of the same type, so no sets like Poochyena+Houndour. I suppose you can just personalize your own rom to use your favorite mons, but as of right now there's no way to make a rom that'll let you pick just anyone.

>>27437147
_okunawa
Pic's not a porn crop, even though it looks like one. Artist draws lewds though
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>>27437211
>Sky Editor's startermod only allows you to use 32 different mons right now (16 male, 16 female), and still doesn't have an ingame character selector. You also can't have a partner of the same type, so no sets like Poochyena+Houndour. I suppose you can just personalize your own rom to use your favorite mons, but as of right now there's no way to make a rom that'll let you pick just anyone.
Oh, that's not what I meant, I was thinking about a menu like the one Evandixon did in Super, that lets you choose the Pokémon's number itself.
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Im doing my 1st play throu in psmd and im on poliwrath river and im only lv13 how fucked am i?
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>>27437211
Honestly I thought this was just a really sad scene cropped out, until I got the source
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>>27437444
Not really as fucked as u think just use your ranged attacks on the boss(es)
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>>27437444
Very fucked if you don't use wands, alliances and ranged attacks.
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>>27437444
I just spammed sleep orbs. play2win amitire
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>>27437468
>>27437475
>>27437515
But im a riolu and only "ranged" attk i have is a two space one
I only have a sleep wand
All the orbs i have is the escape orb, push/warp orbs & 1 stun orb

Is there a way i can grind?
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>>27437570
Go to Pelipper Island.
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>>27437589
I tried that but my character & cute~ fennekin have this X by their names if i use the other characters will mine still get exp or no?
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>>27437444
You'll be fine. I beat the Poliwrath's without any items
They're really not hard
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About to play Explorers of The Sky for the first time.

What team did you guys play through with?
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>>27438232
tiolu player bulpix partner

they sort of seemed like the chespin/fennekin of sky to me, everything seems really easy with them (and not just because of imprison, i didn't know how good imprison was until months ago when someon here told me about it)
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>>27438259
I thought I was the only one who picked those 2, know any good fic's with those 2
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>>27438232
I went Vulpix+Treecko for a normal run. Didn't find my team to be anything special, but I like partner Treecko because he parallels Grovyle as the MC's best friend and most trusted ally

Pretty much anyone but Phanpy and partner Eevee are viable, but the latter can be helped somewhat if you stock up on Oran Berries and are tanky enough to take her blows.
Don't go with custom starters if it's your first time, since genericmons tend to be really shitty so you need to strategize a lot more.
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Why is this place most active when people shit on Super? It's not fair ;_;
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>the orb is reacting!
Why does it do this in the middle of a fight?
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>>27438417
It happens when you first come into contact with a Pokémon.
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>>27438406
Pretty indifferent about Super overall. Mons taking breaks really bugs me though, since I liked using the same trio in Sky for the most part.
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Is there a list of dungeons on PSMD that include which soundtrack they're using?
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>>27438406
because the majority agrees that Sky is superior
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>>27438406
Super's not a bad game but there are a load of questionable design choices in it. The worst, in my opinion being

>break system forces you to waste a few days just to use certain pokemon
>level 5 dungeons are horribly balanced and have no reward
>break system
>no randomly generated missions you can complete for items
>break system
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>>27438780
And how does that make Super a bad game?
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>>27438858
>>27438837
that wasn't even the question you asked, but here you go
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>>27438866
That wasn't me. I've been here for a while, I know full well why you guys don't like it. I just noticed the recent surge in activity was linked to that.
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>>27438889
My bad then
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ALRIGHT THEN

Never been able to finish a Mystery Dungeon game, always get bored early on and forget about it but I'm going to try make a push through and play Super from start to finish

Any suggestions or helpful tips? When does the pace start to pick up? Do the starter and partner have a thing for each other?
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>>27438945
Super probably takes longer to pick up than other games. Just stick with it for a bit, take a break now and then if you feel burned out
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>>27438945
Use items, and don't be afraid to zone. Wands are some of the best items in the game. Everyone says Chespin is OP, so if you're not that good at these types of games, he'd be a worthwhile pick.
>asks about pacing
>Super
It's really slow and arguably boring for the first part, but then the second half goes by very fast.
They're stated to have a very close friendship. Some fans prefer to think they have a thing for each other though, and it's not like it's far off, anyway
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>>27438945
>any suggestions or helpful tips?
Read the pic you posted :^). To help in that endeavor, use stuff like Pounce Wands to close in on an annoying long-distance enemy, try to have at least one multi-tile move, and don't forget about Alliance.

>When does the pace start to pick up?
You'll know when. Without knowing where you are that's all I can really say. You'll go "Ah, this must be what anon was talking about."

>spoiler
Do you want them to? They leave the door wide open but they're really just best friends.
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>>27437078
I would take requests, but they take a long time to do and I'd feel bad for taking forever or if I'm unable to do the mon any justice. (I'm not exactly skilled in pixel art, hence why it takes a long time). I think Jigglypuff can be just given Wigglytuff's face since they're similar (minimal editing I think) Could do Azurill too. Apparently Azurill's crying portrait is labeled as its sigh portrait, which is odd since idk if the editor would allow that to be rearranged.

>>27437041
Someone gave me the game's portrait files, so I think there's enough room. There's a lot of dummy portraits that are either Bulbasaur or plot-characters, which could probably be filled with gen 5-6 mons if I could sprite those.
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>>27439032
>>27439033
>>27439081
Thanks anons, wish me luck

Lets see if the personality test tells me I'm Totodile for the 5th time
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>>27439505
You can just pick whatever mon you want.
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>>27439545
But anon, that's not who you really are.
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>>27439340
The portraits you've posted so far look nice, and I doubt anyone would mind if it takes a long time either, so you shouldn't worried about that. Would ask for Poochyena instead of Jigglypuff, but since you said you were sticking to simpler mons, that'd probably have to wait a bit
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>>27439545
I know, I'm just amazed it lands me with that every time no matter the questions
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>>27439581
I don't like water starters. wooper all the way
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Are there any version differences in SMD?
Like European versions and Amerifat ones.
Dunno what translation team did this, but I don't trust amerifat versions ever since Treehouse.
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>>27439697
The American version doesn't acknowledge you or your partners genders, and the European one forces your partner to be female.
There is also a region lock on rescues for some dumbass reason.
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>>27439818
...Huh, that's kinda stupid both ways.
What's with the American stuff getting tumblr'd all the time, though?
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>>27439868
makes more people buy it
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>>27439868
They think it'll increase sales if they appeal to the women who spend all their time bitching on twitter and tumbler about gender inequality or whatever dumb shit they go on about now.
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I really hope the next game lets us evolve our starter and partner earlier than before the end game. I know it (with a few exceptions) doesn't effect the gameplay much, but evolving pokemon is such an integral part of the main games it always feels a little constraining not to be able to for so long.

I want to play through the main story as a Torterra, dammit
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>>27439877
>>27440028
Well, I hope this shit blows over, I guess.
At least the European version gives me Waifu potential.
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>>27440543
It shouldn't be a forced deal, though.
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>>27440606
Oh, absolutely, the option to stay unevolved the whole game should be there. But it'd be nice if by about 1/3 through you can evolve to your second stage, then your third stage at the 2/3 mark or so.
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How bad is Snivy in SMD? Snivy is pretty bad in general, but I was considering a new playthrough with it as my starter.
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>>27439586
Doesn't Poochyena already have them?

>>27439868
>not wanting it to be gender neutral
Why? At least they don't have to bother with all of the problems that come from it like in the European version, and you can also keep it ambiguous if that's what you want. It pretty much gives you more freedom.

>>27439877
>>27440028
I don't think that's how it works, anons.

>>27440543
I'm glad these games discourage evolving. It's a bad thing and you should feel bad if you actually want to do it.

>>27440554
You can still make it female in the american version.
also
>not wanting choices
>not wanting a boy
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>>27441152
>I'm glad these games discourage evolving. It's a bad thing and you should feel bad if you actually want to do it.
explain
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>>27441152
I dont want evolution to be forced, but people that want to evolve their starters shouldn't get fucked over by

>loss of animations
>loss of portraits
>loss of basically anything that makes the main duo stick out from any random pokemon
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>>27441167
RT didn't discouraged it, so I evolved. And then I regretted it. Evolving should be discouraged and Explorers did it in the perfect way by not allowing you to evolve during the entire thing. I'm kidding, I think having the option early on would be nice, but I'm personally fine with it.
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>>27441202
>picked totodile in Red
>evolved
>that horrible sprite
>that no protraits
>that disappointment

Was enough to put me off the line for good.
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>>27441089
I've played through as Snivy and it definitely isn't that bad.
Stats are kind of mediocre, but it gets nice speed for more accuracy and you can buff up its offenses with Growth which is a great move.
Its movepool isn't particularly good. Make sure you get an Energy Ball TM, because that's its best ranged option.
It's also cute which is the most important thing to consider here.
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>>27441249
Sounds good. I'm just struggling to think of reasons to choose it over Treecko, but I confess I am liking how unexpressive its face is in the dialogue so far, especially compared to Fennekin. Its like Snivy is a little underwhelmed by every development.
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>>27441152
>Doesn't Poochyena already have them?
Poochyena doesn't have anything beyond its basic portrait.
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Hello /pmdq/.Long story short,I decided to play the fourth special episode in EoS and now I regret it.Any tips for this boss fight?
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>>27441462
I meant fanmade ones.
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>just noticed that Road to Insanity updated
Neat, liking the LIVE-A-LIVE music.

>tfw I'm probably the only one checking in on this
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>>27441466
Take a step down, throw a Totter Seed or something at Aggron, then help the other two with the Lairon.

>>27441515
Oh, has it updated? I thought it was dead.
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>>27441567
Last video was apparently two weeks ago.
Still more alive than that other anon who said he'd finally do Wish Cave runs
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Quick question guys, are the level up moves you get the same as their level up moves in the main games?
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>>27441617
Yes. RT uses FRLG movesets, Sky uses Platinum's, Gates uses BW2's, and Super uses ORAS's.
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>>27441638
Cheers, thanks for that
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>he didn't pick an IQ type D/G partner
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>>27441515
I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about but Live-a-Live has some cool music, yes.

>>27441919
Survival Main is all I need. I'm a hardy mofo IRL so there's no need for my MC to wimp out over eating some grimy food.
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GOODRA
IS
FE.M.AL.E
ONLY
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>>27441919
I need my partners to have a line range attack and Gap Prober. It makes them feel actually useful.
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>>27441976
>I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about
RtI is some anon's YouTube series documenting them recruiting everything in BRT, which was originally linked in this general. The comment I made is a reference to their comment on their latest video.

>>27441987
but he's not a Goodra, so it's OK for him to be m.ale
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>>27442113
He (female) will be a Goodra one day and you know what we have then, don't you? That's right, a fucking paradox.

No wonder they keep "him" weak because if "he" ever evolves and it starts raining the fabric of time and space is ripped apart.
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>>27442127
The game doesn't let you evolve it, your autism is safe
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This is the guy who had problems with SkyEditor.

4.0.4 Beta works fine.

Chances are, the older versions aren't compatible with newer .NET Framework versions.
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>>27441152
Well, I haven't actually played the game yet to know what issues you speak of in the Yuropoor version.
I would've preferred being able to choose their gender, honestly, but I don't like gender-neutral, what's even the point of that?
I mean, if they're fixed as a female, that's just part of their character, nothing more. There's no reason to keep it ambiguous.
Also, what's the extent of the ambiguity? I can't image a real-life situation where gender pronouns aren't used.
The entire situation's just retarded.
And I don't want to support SJW drivel, and this happens to rub me off as that.
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>>27441515
>>27441567
>tfw you're the anon behind it, but schedule got tight again and you can't upload as often as it was on the start
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>>27442641
Rescue Team and Explorers never mention the partner's gender despite Explorers actually having a gender system. Super's dialogue is like those games, only their name is used.
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>>27442746
Is the European version the only one with gender pronouns, then? It's more understandable when put in that way.
I haven't played PMD since beating Explorers of Time back when it just came out, admittedly, so I'm a bit rusty on that.
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>>27442641
>I would've preferred being able to choose their gender, honestly, but I don't like gender-neutral, what's even the point of that?
It's gender neutral so that they don't have to write different dialogues. I like it and it doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that they took away the choice in the European version because they didn't want to make different dialogues. Being gender neutral is impossible in most European language, so they just decided to force them to be female instead.

>I mean, if they're fixed as a female, that's just part of their character, nothing more. There's no reason to keep it ambiguous.
Well, the thing is, it isn't.

>Also, what's the extent of the ambiguity? I can't image a real-life situation where gender pronouns aren't used.
I think genders are pointless anyway, particularly in a videogame. I don't understand why you're so attached to it.

>The entire situation's just retarded.
I think gender neutral is great and should be used whenever possible but you may as well call me an sjw or whatever so it doesn't matter, what's retarded is Super's European release. It just doesn't make any sense.

>And I don't want to support SJW drivel, and this happens to rub me off as that.
If I were to write PMD dialogues I'd make everything gender neutral, but I'm pretty sure it's just them being lazy and not wanting to make different dialogues OR take away the choice like in the european version.
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>>27442942
Not that anon, but gender neutral is ass.

It exists in English, and how many other languages? About seven or so, at least among the bigger ones?
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>>27442962
Why would it not existing in other language be a problem for English itself though?
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>>27442942
So, is the female gender only forced in certain languages in the Europe version or in all?
I mean, if it's for all, I can't understand how that'd be due to laziness, especially considering the European version was released after the American one.
How problematic does the game even become due to this forced gender issue? Can you give me some spoiler-free examples?
I personally prefer a character with a fixed gender. I could give less of a shit if they're a transexual male or whateverthefuckexcept if it's tumbler-tier shit like demisexual, but it's just my personal preference.
Gender is a part of a character, and having that information just makes it better for me, I figure.
I don't see how Gender is pointless. Could you elaborate? I'm not going to go full /pol/, but it's an understandable and logical concept, really.
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Dammit guys

I can't settle on a starter for SMD

Totodile? Tepig? Turtwig? They all seem like they'd be pretty good fun. I'm inclined to go with a bulky frontliner supported by Fennekin or Pikachu, maybe Chikorita for walls. Thoughts?
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>>27443014
Why not use what the question gives you if you have trouble deciding?
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>>27441152
>Doesn't Poochyena already have them?
You mean this? I think the guy only made his grinning portrait. Can't seem to find a download besides the test one, which only has that expression and nothing else added.

>>27442534
Pretty sure 4.0.4 only save edits. It's fine if you only care about changing starters or giving mons different moves, but you can't really do other things like portrait injecting.
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>>27443029
Because I'm a wishy washy motherfucker when it comes to these games. I always restart half a dozen times because everything looks like it'd be so much fun to play.
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>>27443062
Welp.

It's not like anybody made Oddish portraits yet, anyway.
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>>27442997
>So, is the female gender only forced in certain languages in the Europe version or in all?
All of them, except English of course, though it's obviously always going to give you a female Pikachu/Torchic.

>I mean, if it's for all, I can't understand how that'd be due to laziness, especially considering the European version was released after the American one.
What don't you understand? The fact that it was released after also shows us they made Europe wait 3 months for no actual reason.

>How problematic does the game even become due to this forced gender issue? Can you give me some spoiler-free examples?
It doesn't. It's pointless.

>Gender is a part of a character, and having that information just makes it better for me, I figure.
That sounds like a cheap way to give them personality traits to me.

>I don't see how Gender is pointless. Could you elaborate? I'm not going to go full /pol/, but it's an understandable and logical concept, really.
It simply doesn't make sense. What is it about? If it's about their genitals (yeah, I know, that isn't what "gender" is, but people are going to use it that way) why would it matter? So that you instantly know if it's worth trying to get laid with them based on your sexual preference? I personally think that shouldn't matter and shouldn't be the way to start a relationship with anyone. If it's not that, then what is it about? Adapting your behavior to what other people expect it to be like and doing the same with other people based on some dumb stereotypes? I hope that my point is clear enough. I don't really want to derail the thread with this stuff.
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>>27443461
So basically, there isn't real reason to bitch about the female gender enforcement unless you prefer neutrality?
No, Gender and Sexuality is simply part of a character. Even if it were a simple personality trait, it adds to the character. I see no reason to not be given this information.
Why do you think Gender isn't important in a relationship? If I'm not into guys, I should still marry a dude because it doesn't matter? That's stupid.
It's about the physical and mental differences. I personally think men and women are simply wired differently, but that's mostly my anecdote. And genitals, of course.
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>>27443554
>So basically, there isn't real reason to bitch about the female gender enforcement unless you prefer neutrality?
Well, you can put it that way, but it personally bothers me more because the european translations were already completed when the american version was released, they could have used those 3 months to try to include different dialogues and stuff, but in the end I don't really care about the gender thing itself. I'm just being autistic over the 3 months.

>It's about the physical and mental differences. I personally think men and women are simply wired differently
I have no source, and I'm not going to tell you that you shouldn't think that and you're definitely wrong, but it's an idea that just doesn't make sense to me. I think all of the mental differences are learned.

>Why do you think Gender isn't important in a relationship? If I'm not into guys, I should still marry a dude because it doesn't matter? That's stupid.
Well, if sex is part of the relationship then I guess you shouldn't. Maybe you could separate the two things, but I can see that being kind of weird.
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How overpowered would Drifblim be if he could go through walls naturally?
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>>27443825
>drifblim passing through walls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsnee_pij4
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Just a question, are the Wiiware version full standalone games?

>>27443654
I don't completely disagree with the "learned" idea, but I just think some stuff is biologically engraved.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's just fine that way. Men are better at A, Girls are better at B, it balances itself out.
It's just that personally, even the most tomboyish girls, or the type that only hangs out with dudes- they just seem to exhibit traits that I mostly see in girls. Same thing with men.
Anyways, sorry for derailing.
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>>27444025
They're the usual 'one game for the price of three', but in a weird way.
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>>27444025
They're kinda like Time/Darkness, there's a different mon selection but the (nonexistent) plot is the same, but unlike TD, there's far more exclusives, and you'd actually have to play the other version instead of using Wonder Mail. Saves are linked, so if you were to get Poochyena in Light, you can use him in Stormy and Blazing, provided he's not an active team member when swapping versions, and you can take out items in the storage that were from other games. However, your progress in the story and amount of dungeons you unlock don't het transferred.
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Was leader switching really removed from Sky or do I just happen to always be in a dungeon that prevents it?
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>>27445804
Explorers is the only game where you can't switch leaders mid-dungeon.
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>>27445931
That's what I was afraid of. It's so weird, I wonder why they did that.
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>escort Forretress mission
>Forretress used Toxic Spikes!
>Forretress used Toxic Spikes!
>Forretress used Selfdestruct! The Damp conditions prevented an explosion!
Why the fuck are escorts so stupid?
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>>27445931
You can switch leaders mid-dungeon in Rescue and Gates? News to me.
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>>27446196
I know you can in Rescue Team, just not in every dungeon. Never tried in Gates, though.
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>>27446196
>>27446222
You can in both, but only when you reach the postgame.
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>tfw teared up the first time i heard dialga's battle theme in psmd
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>>27432860
+3 vacuum wave
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>Picking Pikachu
>In a game without Light Ball

You do know that even with that absurdly broken item he's still absolute bottom tier, right?
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>>27447959
>Thunderbolt
>Disharge
>Agility
>bottom tier
No, Pikachu is actually great.
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>After 100%ing Super, what do you do in it?
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>>27447959
Have you actually played PMD? Pretty much all Pokémon are great, and Pikachu also has a bunch of good moves.
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>>27448095
Ask someone who didn't quit after the story was over.

I'm playing a difficulty hack of Pokémon X&Y which is actually quite enjoyable. I have a Mawile and Ampharos on my team had to can Espurr because she's useless and seeing them mega evolve is pretty fun.
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>>27448095
Roid up the rest of your mons? Max their stats?
I don't know since I haven't connected with everyone yet.
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>>27448095
You could try collecting rainbow TMs or doing the Meowth Theatre dungeons. Max out your stats for the heck of it.

There's not a lot to do once you've done everything.
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>>27448207
>Meowth Theatre dungeons
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>>27448207
What's up with the most popular/rated runs in the Meowth Theater, at least in Europe? It seems kind of strange to me.
Also, has anyone actually tried them? How are they? I've only done the first one so far.
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Are the PMD specials worth watching or are they ass?
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>>27449163
They're pretty good and I'm sad there isn't one for Super and they haven't uploaded them to Youtube in European languages. Either way, watch them and make your own opinions.
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>next game is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Maker
>lets you make your own dungeons and campaigns with co-op multiplayer
>PMD becomes a virtual tabletop game
How would this make you feel, /pmdg/?
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>>27449386
Too good to be true.

I Googled Mystery Dungeon Maker and saw this, probably doesn't work anymore though:

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=220360
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>>27449386

sounds amazing.
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>>27437250
>SMD starter mod
Got a link to that? Been wanting to use custom starters for Super for a while now.
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>>27437211
>>27437250
You can edit your starter? Can you link a tutorial or a link to the program, please?
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Oh wow. The Run Away ability is really bad.

Dammit Eevee, you fit so well as the partner.
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>>27449691
It's in the SMD/GtI research thread, and it's not fully working.

>>27449564
I edited the first dungeon in RT based on documentation on Data Crystal, and GtI has a simplistic structure (which I'm trying to understand on my own).
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>>27447959
Tiers don't exist in PMD, unless you're Drifblim
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America
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>>27451675
Wait how the fuck did it end up side ways
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>>27451675
On my way! Just sit tight!
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>>27452055
Okay just know the image is side ways
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>>27452096
Yeah I know. I scanned it a long time ago
It being flipped doesn't matter
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>>27452096
>>27452055
>>27451675
Yep Yep. Sorry for the delay
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>>27452310
Thanks
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Which is better, Waterfall or Aqua Tail?
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>>27449539
Waited ten years and in the end it was still worth it.
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>>27451675
>>27452310
what is this
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>>27454231
It's nothing. Don't worry about it
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>>27454240
don't lie to me anon DON'T LIE TO ME
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I'm playing through Explorers of Time and love it so far but I feel like I'm kind of stuck. I have to go to the Northern Desert and with a Pikachu/Cyndaquil team it's put me in a tough situation. I have a few options but can't decide on which members to use:
I have a kinda shitty Lv 12 Tangela
A Lv 13 Wingull with decent moves
Lv 11 Shelder which idk I guess could learn some good moves?
Lv 13 Shroomish, this guy's cool, leaning towards him
Lv 13 Dratini that I'm excited about but it has shit moves, I could level it up more and spam TMs

either way I have to grind, I'm just hesitant on spending a lot of time/TMs on a member who's not going to be useful in the long run
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>>27454257
Don't worry about it, Anon
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>>27454270
no
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>>27449539
>She never considered being more than just friends with you
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>>27454231
qr codes for super rescues
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>>27454459
what exactly is that? there's nothing about it in the faq. can I call on someone else if I die in a dungeon?
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>>27454653
Yes.
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>>27454724
cool. so, I can get out scott free? I don't lose anything?
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>>27454263
>playing Time instead of Sky
>not getting a Wooper who's immune to the Sandstorms of the desert and is supereffective against basically everything there

>>27454745
as long as they rescue you
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>>27454761
If you can't have Sky or don't want to delete your Sky save I think Time and Darkness are fine.
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What do I do with normal TMs now that I have some Rainbow TMs? Do I just sell them?
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What is the worst IQ skillset?
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>>27455982
E
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>>27456026
The one that has the "ultimate" skill as House Avoider
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>>27437446
source? is it hot?
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>using rotom
>the fucker is phasing though walls
>hunger drops goes from 100 to 10 in an instant
Guys I think my game is broken
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>>27456655
dude
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>>27456655
Hunger decrease is accelerated when going through walls. I believe it's 5 tummy rumbles every step.
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I am currently playing two seperate saves of SMD, Explorer of The Sky, and Shiren The Wanderer at the same time.

I can't remember the last time I was this happy. There's something wrong with me.
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>>27456691
>tummy rumbles
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>>27457071
>wrong
It's great, keep going.
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>tfw found a shiny skitty in AS
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>>27457972
Do shiny mons have a 100% recruit rate?
>still only have the freebie Hoppip/Skiploom
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>>27457972
>shiny
>skitty
Bullshit
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>>27458165
>>27458208
wait a sec, not the wiiware game, the mainline game. It just reminded me of PMD because of that run i did. Any nicknames?
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>>27458231
Shienies only exist in AS, with Oh-Ho and Celebi being the only exceptions.
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Which moves would benefit from Power Drink the most?
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>>27458231
GUMI
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>>27456222
I second this.
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>>27452964
Waterfall. You get a secondary effect and more accuracy in return for a little power.
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Alright, I've finally completed Mareep's portraits. Here's the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tyja67bi3t8mv11/PMD_Indexed_Mareep_Portraits.zip

All of them are labeled, and indexed with 16 colors max (because they are indexed, they will look slightly different than the pic in my post).
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>>27460004
fucking sweet, going to throw this in the Exploration Pack, and maybe try out a new run with these portraits.
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>>27443654
>I think all of the mental differences are learned.
The brain is a physical thing.
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>>27460708
And why would you assume the brain itself is different based on the sex?
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>>27460004
Fugging sweet, but how are they added?
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>>27462441
Sky Editor is in the OP. How to use it is pretty much obvious.
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>tfw reveals

doubt the thread will survive until i wake up
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>Dark type PMD starters never
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>litten and ice vulpix
I am going to be allowed to do this, RIGHT?
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>>27464677
>Poochyena has Run Away
Maybe it's for our own good
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Ice Ninetales would've been perfect for Mt. Freeze. Now we REALLY need remakes.
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>>27465839
Used him as a custom hero in Sky, Run Away makes it so that you don't get immobilized from moves and abilities like Mean Look and Shadow Tag if you're the leader, and you don't get the terrified status effect when at half health.
Didn't Super fix the ability, anyway?
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>>27465839
They fixed Run Away in Super though, didn't they?
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>people are gonna want me to do ice Vulpix since it has portraits that can simply be edited
>mfw
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>>27466142
>>27466287
>didn't they fix it in Super?
Oh I never even bothered to look. If they did that's great.
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>>27466469
I think we can also add new Pokémon actually so, well...
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>>27466469
Does Sky Editor even allow moveset/typing changes, or would you need other tools to get that done instead?
You'd also have to create the overworld sprites, too, unlike the mons that are already in the game.
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Alola Vulpix must be a starter.
We must have a lot of non-starter starters.
We must. ;_;
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>>27466654
You can, but they'd be added as a separate species like EoS shiny Celebi.

>>27466830
I don't think so yet, it's still being worked on.
Yeah, and I'd love to attempt those too but Spriter's Resource doesn't have complete sheets of those animations (some are missing) for me to take a shot at.
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Dragonfruit Exeggcutor as a guildmaster when?
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With SM drastically changing mainline Pokemon, how different do you guys think the Gen VII PMD games will be?
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>>27461976
because that;s how it is irl you brain-dead halfwit
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>>27469579
Just turn it into Persona 3's dungeon crawling.

Just turn it into Persona in general.
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>>27471032
Sorry meant for>>27469442
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>10 pages of Reviver Seeds in Explorers
>never use them because I'm so roided up
>they just sit there taking up all that space
Just end me. Maybe I can get rid of my surplus that way.
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>>27472222
I used mine up by doing escort missions. Even when trying to minimize casualties (like putting the escort in the 3rd party slot, bringing a Damp mon and room-wide move mons) a lot of things still go wrong. At least the Golden Chamber missions give good rewards and the harder dungeons help you advance to the Guildmaster class rather quickly.
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I love jigglypuff so so much
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>luck out and recruit Exeggcute in my first mission to Howling Forest last night
>Alola Form Exeggutor
???
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>>27466469
Ice Vulpix a cute A CUTE!
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>>27472102
>>27473433
>>27473566
There is no Jigglypuff in PMD you dolt. It instantly goes from Iggly to Wiggly.
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I like the OP art.
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>>27475828
Was bumping the thread to keep it alive, but I don't have any PMD-related fanart saved unlike the guy who usually bumps.
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what do you think happened to Armaldo after he got released from jail, /pmdg/?
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>>27478847
He became the explorer Igglybuff wanted him to be.
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>>27478847
Wigglytuff claims that they've still done a lot of stuff, but he'd save those stories for "another day".
Armaldo probably reunited with an older Igglybuff/Wigglytuff after he did his time and continued to adventure.
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>>27474582
I had a dream a couple of nights before the reveal with alternate evolutions of existing Pokémon that came about due to living in Alola. Maybe it was a sign.

>>27469442
It will probably be mostly the same at its core, but it will be interesting to see how they handle the new stuff being added in Sun & Moon, like Z-Moves and the already mentioned Alola variations of existing Pokémon.

The former could be introduced to players early on and serve as a powerful weapon in their disposals, but the catch is that it can only be used once. It can serve as a good last resort to players when they would likely die otherwise. The move hits an entire room and does massive damage. Maybe they can also help your team in other ways, such as by giving stat boosts and healing them. This makes sure that you get more out of it since it's one-time only.

Alternatively, it can actually be used more than once, but there is a catch or two. (Each Pokémon gets one shot with their own moves, it greatly eats away at your Hunger, you need to use an item such as elemental gems so you have to have more on you to keep using Z-Moves, the moves only become available through Emeras found in the dungeon like the Awakening Emera from Super Mystery Dungeon, etc.). Of course, in this scenario you don't get the stat boosts, healing, and the like I mentioned above unless that's what the move happens to do in the first place. (We haven't seen any status Z-Moves yet, but on the other hand we can't simply rule it out just yet).

Full evolutionary line Alolan Pokémon will likely be found as separate Pokémon, though there may be a special method of evolution for ones like the Exeggcute line since it appears Exeggutor's form depends on whether or not it is evolved in Alola. It may simply need a special item to give you the desired form, but they could go another way with them.
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>>27480073
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