What went wrong?
>>27384794
Nidoking is god tier though. In terms of design at least.
Nidocuck - King of Manlets
literally nothing went wrong
nidoking is awesome
top ten design + cry
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>>27384794
Higher attack than sp.attack when it's special movepool is way bigger
85 base speed
Design wise nothing but the fact that it's a manlet, which isn't something inherently bad but nidoking gives the impression of being huge so it's a bit dissapointing when you realize he's short as fuck.
>>27384794
+10 Attack
Should've been +10 Special Attack.
It's not Nidoqueen.
Also both need their stats fixed.
>>27385076
>there's an alternate world were Nidorino and Nidoking can't breed
>there's an alternate world were Nidoqueen has /ss/ with Nidoran (M)
Nidoking of manlets
;_;
>>27384794
Manlets
when will they learn
Height and average speed stat. Apart from that its perfect
>>27384841
The moves in its special move pool generally are stronger than the ones in its physical move pool which compensates almost exactly for the base stat difference.
>>27384818
>>27385132
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>>27385233
>this rabbit monster isn't tall by human standards
>manlet manlet manlet!
This meme is so goddamn retarded.
>>27385305
Its not a meme. Its retarded to be under 2 meters it looks ridiculous
>nidolet
>>27385406
>kinglet
I don't understand why everyone gives Nidoking such a hard time when almost all Pokemon are tiny
>>27385305
Anon, look at its design, name, and then look at its height.
It's fucking absurd.
>>27384794
Nothing, it all went right autismo.
It's got shitty looking feet
SMALL
>>27385327
>>27385517
The pokedex is full of shit anyways and a lot of the older pokemon are made to be tall compared to little kids. Japanese kids, no less.
>>27384794
6th Gen happened and gave it a shitty model
Also, Nidoking is the one true Pokemon. It's not just a fucking animal, it's multiple mixed and is actually a monster.
>>27385671
>>27385671
>is actually a Pocket-sized monster
ftfy
>>27385671
>Nidoking is the one true Pokemon.
It's Rhydon, you fuck.
>>27384794
Someone touched it with a Moon Stone
>>27385647
>the canon source of info for the games is full of shit when it comes to the average height and weight of fictional monsters
k
But... maybe you're so insecure about Nidoking's height because you're a manlet?
>>27384811
Specially in the 90s.
>>27385305
Took 20 years for me to realize it's a rabbit monster.
That's cool as hell.
>>27384794
It didn't get a Mega yet
>>27384794
need more strong stabs in the physical side
the fact it can learn sludge bomb but no gunkshot its retarded
>>27386101
Give it Arena Trap, increase Speed and SpA.
There you go
>>27386101
>wanting Megas
>>27386376
You forgot to change typing so he doesn't still die to surf
>>27386433
That's what the speed increase is for.
>>27384794
Really, just give it +20 in Speed and I'll actually consider using it seriously
>>27386409
Some megas are good though, and Nidoking could get a pretty solid Mega design
Simply adding a few spikes in the head with the shape of a crown would make him a true King
>>27386376
Sheer Force is its saving grace tho
>>27386376
There's no way to give Nidoking usable speed or bulk without minmaxing the fuck out of it or making it hit substantially less hard than the Life Orb Sheer Force base.
>>27387011
You would mostly compensate that power loss with the stat gain from going Mega.
Give it a +30 to Speed, and +70 to SpA (or Atk, if GF decides to give it more moves).
You gain the strategic ability to trap non-levitating pokemons, and also re-gain the secondary effects of moves.
>>27387199
>make Nidoking a worse M. Gengar
Machamp is 5'3"
Mega Nidoking gets:
>20 Speed
>40 Atk
>40 SpA
Mega Nidoqueen gets
>20 Speed
>40 Def
>40 SpD
>>27387185
With sheer force he only needs 126 SpA to match life orb.
>>27387255
>bulky spread with no recovery, no defense boosts and common weaknesses
Mega.
Nidoking.
Height: 190cm
Weight: 300lbs
Try and call him a manlet now.
>>27385305
Do people take that pokedex shit seriously? Topkek i thought this board has at least some limits on autism.
>>27387371
>cms and lbs together
>>27387283
Ok, This works better then
>>27384794
kek look at that fucking manlet. his nidoqueen is probably getting drilled by rhydon right now. when will manlets learn?
>>27385905
im not even him but we all know how these manlet arguments go. its just a continuous loop of people calling eachother manlets.
t.an actual manlet
Nidoking is as tall as a gorilla, and gorillas can snap trees with their arms. I don't see the issue.
dont talk shit about muh kaijumons
>>27387292
>>27387283
does every single pokemon need to have every stat boosted to 200? it gets fucking ridiculous. you just end up with 10 different types of pokemon stats wise.
>>27384794
Rate Nidos >>27386338
King attack values are roughly equivalent to LO. Higher speed tier.
Queen gets flinchslide, paraslam and guaranteed toxic off poison fang.