Starter Middle Evolutions

I like Ivysaur because it looks like it could still actually move around and do stuff unlike that fat lazy slob Venusaur.

Ivysaur, Wartortle, Blaziken, Dewott and Braixen are the only good/memorable ones. Grovyle too I guess for a lot of people, but I'm just not that into it.

Can we all agree that fat chespin is the worst?

i like:

ivysaur
bayleaf
charmeleon
wartortle
monferno
prinplup
dewott

> Ivysaur is the best of Gen 1.
> Bayleef is the best of Gen 2.
> Grovyle is the only good one in Gen 3.
> They're all shit in Gen 4.
> Dewott is decent in Gen 5.
> Frogadier is the only good one in Gen 6.

> Overall
1. Grovyle
2. Frogadier
3. Ivysaur
4. Bayleef
5. Wartortle

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>>27372961
All of the gen 2 ones

>>27372961
I adore Wartortle. I've seen 2 wartortle figures in the last few years, which is a shame since Wartortle is aesthetically my favorite pokemon. Those ears, that tail.... And my old Wartortle keychain is missing its flooffy tail.

I also like the gen 1-5 grass middles and Quilava and Dewott.

I never understood the love for Dewott, but I love Oshawott and Samurott. He just looked so stiff and that medium blue doesn't suit him at all.

>>27373001
The entire Chespin line is the worst.

Ivysaur

The major reason might have been the fact that he was playable in Smash bros

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I like Bayleef a lot too, but I think Dewott wins the gold. It was so good it was hard to follow-up which is why Samurott gets so much flack.

Also controversial opinion - I like Quilladin.

>>27372961
my favorite is probably Quilava, but I also really like all of gen1, Croconaw, all of gen4 and Dewott

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>>27373916
That's not controversial, that's just fucking stupid.

>>27373862

Go fuck yourself

Just because he's the knight YOU envisioned doesn't mean he's bad

Ivysaur because it used to be able to walk on its hind legs.

Bayleef because QT

Quilava because it looks cool

Grovyle for the same reason

Marshtomp because its goofy

Monferno for the same reason

Dewott for the same reason

Servine because sexy

Braixen because QT

>>27374167
Maybe you're the one who need to fuck yourself because you get irrationally angry about someone expressing an opinion.

>>27372961
Gen I.

Ivysaur to narrow it down further.

>>27372961
Great middle evos: Ivysaur, Bayleaf, Quilava, Grovyle, Dewott, Frogadier.

Okay middle evos: Charmeleon, Wartortle, Croconaw, Marshstomp, Prinplup, Monferno, Servine, Braixen.

Bad middle evos: Combusken, Grotle, Pignite, Quilladin.

>>27372961
Ivysaur, Wartortle, every Johto mid evo, Grovyle, Marshtomp, Braixen and Frogadier are all good imo.
Grovyle honestly looks like it could be a fully evolved mon in another line.
Normally I wouldn't like Braixen or Pokémon like it, but the idea of a magical girl Pokémon is cool.

Monferno or Dewott are probably my least favourite.

>>27372961
god tier: grovyle, ivysaur, wartortle, bayleef, frogadier
high tier: quilava, braxien, grotle
mid tier: marshtomp, charmeleon, pignite, snivy's evo
who cares: the rest

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Bayleef Best

Prinplup Worst