Only waiting for GF to officially confirm these

>>27354851
I don't know why people hate these, I'm for one, up for them. They're a great set conceptually especially the owl and the siren. The tiger is good too but the other two are better. I wouldn't mind if these are real.

Link to previous post.

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>>27354876

Agreed.

>mfw babies hate Poppmaid for asinine reasons like "TOO FEMINIE" and "NOT MUH CLOWN BRO REEEEEE"

Not a fan, not a hater. I'm not fully convinced, but I'm ok with them.

My solely worry are Rowlet3 legs on the 3D model. In the art they look...weird.

>>27354999
what a retarded waste of trips. they don't look weird, you clearly just have no fucking bearing on how bird anatomy works. to think they look weird is to imply a lack of knowledge. inb4 implying owls are birds. kill yourself

>>27354999

I don't find anything with it, but if anything, GF has made me a believer after seeing the 3D models. Comparing them to the official arts (Nicki Minaj fish), I became a fan of it after seeing its in-game model.

Where did these come from? I'm pretty sure I saw that same exact Popplio evo like the day after they were revealed in an evolution fanart compilation post somewhere.

>>27355220
They were "leaked" by a mysterious person here on /vp/ a couple of months ago. No one has stepped up to claim them like other "leaked" fakes so a lot of people are lead to believed that GF purposely put them out in the web to create a buzz about the games.

They're the most talked about leaked evos here and the ONLY legitimate one to have arguments on because it hasn't been proven false since its leak (2 months ago).

>>27354851
So charmander is fire/steel, totodile is water/dark, and chespin is grass/rock?

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>Popplio: (Pop + Gigolo)

>>27355249
Are you dumb? Look in serebii if you're not sure about their typings. omg.

>>27355242
>ONLY legitimate one to have arguments on
False. None are legit, since the previous leaks also utilize the same logic OP uses, plus >>27355249

And kitten is supposed to be calm, it's evolution makes no sense.

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>>27354851
OH YASSS my baby girl

>>27355277
Came here to post this

>>27354851
I can't believe I have to wait until November to get my hands on archer owl. I want that thing yesterday.

>>27355289
No. The other leaks are already proven to be legit fakes. this one is the only one that has some hope left to be real.

>>27355289
>And kitten is supposed to be calm, it's evolution makes no sense.
>implying there aren't Pokemon that change personalities when they evolve

>>27355249
You are retarded.

Pokémon that learn Bite don't have a strong association with an aesthetic or type. They're just mons that can attack with Bites, the majority isn't Dark type. Same for Rollout and Metal Claw.

But Disarming Voice IS learned (via level up) exclusively by either Fairy types or very cute/feminine Pokémon. Does it mean that Popplio will ABSOLUTELY 100% be fairy/cute? No, but it makes it extremely likely.

>>27355249
>I Can't Read: The Post

OP even admitted that Disarming Voive doesn't mean Popplio will end up Water/Fairy.

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>>27355307
>Greatest starter evo ever.

>>27355166
You can do better than that, come on. Make me really WANT TO KILL myself. With such an attempt I can only assume how much autism you have and nothing else.

>>27355197
Totally! And they finally understand the potential on 3D, so maybe with the proper movement it can be a really cool mon.

For me it happened with Bewear. I wasn't convinced at first, but the model made me like it.

>>27355353
People have selected reading when it comes to this topic. they desperately want the clown to be real even though it's already PROVEN false. Seriously the only ones hating on these designs are blind folks or the ones who are mad about Popbabe being feminine looking. Tell me wrong otherwise.

>>27355289
>And kitten is supposed to be calm, it's evolution makes no sense.
When Pokemon evolve, they often (but not always) change personality. Numel to Camerupt, Pichu to Pikachu, Eevee, Yamask to Cofagrigus, Torchic to Blaziken, Piplup to Empoleon, etc.

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>>27355289
How old are you and are you one of those furfags that only want evos to become bigger counterparts of their base forms?

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>>27355360

>>27355289
>Whismur
>Crybaby mon evolves into brute bully

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>(Pop + Gigolo)
>YASS

You could have just made it a speculation thread, but yeah, let's go for a bait thread as well.

>>27355462
>Magikarp a frail ugly fish evolves into an uglier but brute Ocean worm/dragon thing.

YASS MORE MORE MORE!! Let's put anon back to his dunce corner.

>>27355442
>Being a furfag
>For wanting their final evos to at least resemble their first forms

???

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>>27355474

Hey bro. Lots of fish today? And I speak the possible truth.

>>27355388
Are you for real? "no one has been able to disprove them" is not a real argument, people have already said why they think it's fake like a million times.

Jesus Christ, learn to fucking argue first and then create a thread with those fakes, they teach that in the american schools right?

>>27355527
OP means no one has officially disproven them, meaning no fake artist come up and claim them, NONE. google is removing them from image searches..... so speculate these might be real.

>>27355521

>implying that personality doesn't change when they evolve
>stays the same boring pokemon throughout evolution with same personality but just gets bigger.

That's not boring at all... and totally unexpected right?

>>27355527
To disprove =/= to disapprove
Just because people think its fake/real it doesnt mean it is. The fact is, there is too much coincidence going on with this "leak", like Ken Sugimori tweeting the tiger mask thing and popplio learning disarming voice by levei up.

If these are real I want to see what kind of "signature" move they'll have.
For Arrowl I can see either two possibilities.
One is a volley of arrows basically a stronger bullet seed with 35 or 40 BP.
The other being a grass type night slash. A move with high accuracy and high crit rate to show its perfect aim.
Side note I'm kinda sad that if Arrowl is real he probably won't learn thousand arrow.

Tiger Mask I can see it having a dual type move like in the pic of it doing a wrestling move while setting himself on fire. So maybe fire/dark or fire/fighting.

Entermaid I see a status effect move. Maybe something like it uses its voice to stop and calm on opponents. So it lowers both attacks stat by one stage.

>>27355584

I know there are some heavy contenders for Miss Personality Change when it comes to some starters and their evolutions, I was just wondering the logic behind calling people furfags regarding that.

http://mimida21.deviantart.com/art/Evos-623685638

>>27355613
For mermaid Popplio I want a Sp. Attack version of Charm. Captivate requires the enemy to be the opposite sex, which is annoying.

>>27355445
Wow, that is really nice. I hope it has some over-the-top LotR animations in SM.

>>27355488
dat butthurt

Defensive, much?

>>27355527
>Are you for real? "no one has been able to disprove them" is not a real argument, people have already said why they think it's fake like a million times.

And likewise, people have said a million times why they think they're real. What's your point, pal?

>>27355620
I don't know I just like that word...

>>27355660
And no, I was just backing you up with the changing personality point. The other anon said it doesn't match Litten's evo if the base form has a calm personality.

>>27355639

what was the purpose of this submission

And isn't this technically stealing art?

This guy's DA is also swamped with 4chan and Reddit shit.

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>>27355608
>there is too much coincidence

That's how I feel too, initially I thought these were cute but ignored them because I assumed they were fake but as /vp/ spammed them more it made me look into them and now I'm leaning towards them being real although the "official leaks" the annoying spammer posts make me cautious about taking a stance.

>>27355527
>trying to use American as an insult

Buttmad Europoor detected.

>>27355700
>inb4 scolipede face

>>27355700

It's better than the super bloated Super Eagle filter moon runes ruined version that wanders around.

>>27354851
Also people saying that these are fake because the names are "Tiger 3" "Owl 3" "Sealion 3"

I believe GF put those out because now that the games come out at the same time around the world, their names would be different throughout the regions. So instead of putting the japanese name, the american name or whatever, they just made it generic. Which also reinforces that these might be real. If it was a fake leaker, they would have put in a "believable" fake names along with them, in which point these leaks don't have.

>Leaning towards real. I'm a believer

>>27355700
Besides entermaid I like how they put the code name in the pic.
Tiger mask being a broken table.
Arrowl being a sign on the branch which he perched on.

>>27355777
That's a good observation. I also think these might be real. I don't know why people automatically think they're fake when they keep insisting the circus trios are real... These are more believable than the other three. They match GF artstyle and all hints point to these three.

>>27355608
>like Ken Sugimori tweeting the tiger mask
Source? Can't find shit on his twitter.

>>27355689
>backing you
Anon, >>27355462 and >>27355660
are not the same

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>There are people on this board right now who unironically believe unconfirmed leaks

I knew there would be more retards because of leak season, but this shit is starting to annoy me.

>>27355836
>I have no arguments so I'll just insult everyone

Have fun being in the BTFO screencap. :^)

>>27355706
>>27355527
This. Roothoot all over again with just as much legitimacy.

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>>27355836

>>27355858
>implying anyone would screencap this garbage thread

>>27355836
Screencap them all Prepare when you get BTFO!!!!!!!!

>Bipedal furbait shitmons

If these are real, this gen might take the cake for the shittiest designed starters.

>>27355933

Ebin.

>>27355836
>implying GF didn't early concept art to the Anime team for the near future
>just happens to have gen 7 confidential sticker seen in Nintendo direct video
>just happens to match the art style perfectly
>just happens to have Popplio a siren, and it learns Disarming Voice by level up.
>just happens to only be given to pokémon that are cute or feminine
>Whismur is cute as a first evo. Moves don't just swap put when they evolve. It also only learns it as an egg move.

Just coincidences it seems. Nothing to see here, not even when the leak is being confirmed harder and better than Ballio by the fans of the games.

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>>27355700
>Higher resolution

I'm tired of seeing thumbnails, I don't care if you think this changes anything, here's a REAL BLOWN UP version of these

fucking knock yerselfs out with these and figuring out errors

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>>27355933
>Poppmaid doesn't even legs
>le furbait meme

>>27355933
>even thinking for a moment that these are worse than Gen. 5's starters

>>27355933
Pretty much every gen has two bipedal starters anon.

>>27356054
Save for gen 5, because Snake, here's the rundown.

Gen 1= 2 Biped, 1 Quadruped
Gen 2= 2 Biped, 1 Quadruped
Gen 3= 3 Biped
Gen 4= 2 Biped, 1 Quadruped
Gen 5= 1 Biped, 1 Quadruped, 1 Slither Snake.
Gen 6= 3 Biped.

(Gen 7= 2 Biped, 1 Tail)

>>27356138
Typhlosion is a quadruped.

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So, if you're all so sure these are the legitimate leaks of the Gen7 starter evos, care to explain why Popplio's evo has clearly a fraction of the personality that the other two have?

>Rowlet's evo shown from every angle, attacking, defending, multiple emotions and X-Ray shots under the hood
>Litten's evo shown performing all kinds of attacks to showcase its wrestler theme, in addition to many emotions displayed and even that little kettle scene with Ash & co.
>Popplio's evo just...sits there, emotionless

So we're really at the point where all GF has to do is turn a design 180 degrees into something conceivably fuckable and you'll all come singing praises, huh? If you're actually hype for the most shit tier water starter in history, you're either a microdick virgin furry or you're fucked in the head. Likely both.

WHY exactly would GF elect to make these concept arts so lopsided like this?

>>27356138
How the fuck do you get off counting Swampert as a biped?

Honestly i just want them to get bigger. They would be fine just getting bigger

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>>27356239
>So we're really at the point where all GF has to do is turn a design 180 degrees into something conceivably fuckable and you'll all come singing praises

>If you like what I don't like you are [insert pejorative]

Grow up anon

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>>27356250

>>27356230
>>27356246
In game, the two stand up on TWO feet. Swampert is hunched over with it's hand NEARLY touching the ground, whereas Typhlosion is literally standing up as far as it can on two legs. Fucking asshats, we're talking games, not the anime.

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>>27356273
>I'll just ignore every point he made and blindly defend my new overtly bland waifu!
>s-she's real, I can love her if I want!!1

>>27356330
Not only to mention that in every single fucking game, Typhlosion's sprite/model is BIPEDAL

I swear these are getting convincing every time something comes up. Is this the longest speculation for evos that has ever happened in history ever? I mean 2 months of not being able to prove it's fake/real is excruciating. I think these are real.

>>27356330
>>27356362
I'm not arguing Typhlosion, as he's clearly on the fence.

Swampert, on the other hand, is quadrupedal beyond a shadow of doubt. Don't be an idiot. By your own evidence, Swampert is ON ALL FOURS in every single sprite/model across all games.

>>27356239
GF must have went with a more bland Water-type this gen, since Greninja thoroughly BTFO Chesnaught and Delphox last time. Makes sense to me.

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>>27356409
The D/P/Pt sprite is pic related. R/S/E & FR/LG it's not on all fours, and even in gen 5 it's NOT on all fours. Think again asshat.

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>>27356409
>Swampert is ON ALL FOURS in every single sprite/model across all games.

hurr

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>>27356409
5th gen animated

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>>27356417
3rd gen original sprite.

>>27356465
Wrong person, I meant the one above it, but regardless.

>>27356353
What else can you say about an elegant Pokemon that shoots bubbles? She doesn't even have extra design points like the belt or arrows.

and I don't have "waifus" I think the design is pleasant and a breathe of fresh air compared to the usual hype-rmasculine insecure male pandering starters.

>>27354851
>"muh patterns " argument
You have to work harder if you want a valid argument to believe in literally my mom's siren.

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>>27356239
>Popplio's evo just...sits there, emotionless
>is demonstrated singing
>has an angry, irritated expression on the top left

Nice job only seeing what you want to see.

>If you're actually hype for the most shit tier water starter in history, you're either a microdick virgin furry or you're fucked in the head. Likely both.

So not only are your arguments retarded, you have to project to? Anyway, I'm sure this is bait, so here's your (You). Don't try so hard next time.

>>27356499
>compared to the usual hype-rmasculine insecure male pandering starters
They're monsters, not masculine

>>27356548
>I have no rebuttal

>>27356499
that's what I think too. Plus it's about time Pokemon made a mermaid pokemon that's not like a snake-mermaid like Milotic. Popbabe is beautiful and I can see her being a favorite among the girl players.

>>27356499
>Starter is 88% male
>Lets give it a feminine design!

No, if anything they should be completely gender neutral like gen 1 and 2's starters.

>>27356572
Popmaid is a monster too

>>27356548
Try harder. The OP is on the right track with all his evidence.

>>27356593
Mmm why are people so opposed to a feminine starter evo? Seriously. That's literally the only thing I see why people are hating on these designs, especially Popbabe.

>>27356593
Look at last gen fuck-o the clown. Delphox/Braixen are feminine and yet they have the same fucking 87.5% male chance.

>>27356655
Right. If they really care about the gender, then the Mr. Mime can be females argument is a better example than nitpicking on Popmaid.

This set still has a theme, it's highschool tropes now. You have the jock, the idol, and the nerd.

>>27356616
No he isn't, I could tear down any of his arguments because they are too weak or rest on a "muh patterns" justification.

>arrow+owlet
It's round+owlet, in other languages it's just wood owl. There isn't any mention of arrow anywhere (why isn't it Arrowlet then?).

>>27356708
Brains, Brawn, Beauty. Not highschool, but close

>>27356646
Because we are baffled you jump in the bandwagon with such a baseless leak.

>>27356655
I thought that was fucking garbage too. The only saving grace of gen 6 was geninja

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>>27354851
:^)

MMMmmm... Either this "fake" artist paid that much attention to do these, spent hours thinking of concepts for the baseline starters, and still no word from them.. You'd think if you work hard enough to do this, you would have come out by now claiming your fame right? Is that weird that no one has stepped up yet?

Also:
>see pic related

>>27356825
Of course it was, fucking normie. Your first offense was not saying Aegislash. Fuck off back to /v/ and play your baby games.

>>27356836
What does this mean?

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>>27356847
Sorry here is the pic

>>27356849
When I said that I obviously meant the starters.
Aegislash and Pangoro are by far my favorite pokes to come from gen 6

>>27356239
Perhaps there are multiple pages of concept art, and the leaker only shared the first one?

>>27356646

Not that same anon, but while I'm not opposed against feminine/elegant designs...

Look, I'll reinforce this as much as I can, I'm no expert and by all means, no matter how absurd one pokemon may be regarding looking one gender and the other while being available with both genders, Poppmaid here...

I'll be brutally honest, she's about as male as a Lopunny, while she looks feminine as fuck, there's still that freaking weird possibility of it being male and looking nothing like it and even Lopunny here isn't wearing earrings or barretes haha okay I'm joking Lopunny started wearing fluff barretes and has tight patterns alluding to ripped collants in its Mega. And I'm honestly not sure if Game Freak would do something like that regarding one of the STARTERS, which you are forced to pick in early beginning.

For girls and people who just so happen to like elegant things, this is a good thing. And trans people too.

For everyone who was hoping for something in the middle ground (not too masculine, not too feminine) regarding picking their water type pokemon, it's a kick in the nads because while some of these are spoiling the game for themselves and preparing to witness any pokemon before the actual release, some are going UNSPOILERED with a male Popplio in their hands and at best, they're just assuming Popplio will just turn into a bigger sea lion, as for what it becomes, that's their own imagination. I assume some will enjoy the mermaid, but others? Nnnot so much.

tl;dr if you don't think this will highly affect incoming popularity polls after this, you're nuts

>>27354851
Littens Japanese name is nyabby which is kitten+volcano. That makes no sense with these fake leaks. Also, it makes since if litten evolves into A connon like panther or tiger

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>>27356836
What is Milotic?

When I first saw these, I thought they looked awful. They've kind of grown on me though, even though they're still kind of meh. I would put them on the same level as the Kalos starters. Rowlet evo is definitely my favorite.

>>27356856
Rowlet has 23 hp. Too much for this leaked evo.

>>27356884
literally Braixen tho

>>27356902
You do realize milotic is 22 feet long right?

>>27356836
>>27356902
>>27356935
What am I missing here?

Are the Japanese still talking about this? That's what I want to know.

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>>27356891
What?

>>27356891
>I know Japanese language

Really? Last time I checked, Nyaa is an onomatopoeia for meow. And there is nowhere in its name to indicate it's from a volcano. Japanese of volcano is kazan.... Autistic people like you who make up facts to back up your lame theories should not use the forum.

>>27356951
Look at rowlets hp. It's 23. To much for the leaked evo

>>27356967
Someone said it was meow+volcano when people found out the names were trademarked

>>27356891
Names don't always have to do with the line progression some of them just describe the starter in it's current form.

Fennekin
>Fokko may be a combination of fox, fuoco (Italian for fire), 狐 ko (fox), and 子 ko (child).

Delphox
>Mahoxy is a combination of 魔導師 madōshi (mage), 魔法 mahō (magic), and foxy.

>>27356951
stupid people implying the leaked evo can't have high HP because it looks like it doesn't...

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>>27356969
>A Pokémon's base stats can be discerned simply by looking at its artwork

>>27355955
Anyone can imitate the official art and slap on the Confidential logo.

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>every thread until you fags stop this shit
REMINDER to ignore "muh chinese leaks" threads.
There's no proof these leaks are actually "2 weeks old" (no timestamp, and "translator" has never provided proof and just keeps saying vague shit about how he got it from a "friend"'s facebook) and they could've very well been written after Rockruff and Salandit's reveal.

also
>fake leak mimics Noivern concept art layout
>another fake leak mentions it because they're the most popular starter evo fakes after edgy owl and Ballio got debunked
>people unironically eat this shit up

P.S. Final evos just never fucking leak 5 months before the game is out ;^)

>>27356964
From my limited understanding, they seem to be a lot like us in most ways when online anonymously. However, they don't tend to go gaga over unconfirmed Pokemon. The evolutions having no names doesn't help in searching them out, either.

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>>27354851

>>27356593
>Meganium

>>>>>Gender neutral

>>27355329
>muh patterns
It's possible to like the leak and still realize it's likely fake.

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>>27355700
teehee
>>27355723

>>27357080
I don't get this. Can anyone explain who that character is on top of the tiger's face is?

>>27354851
>clean as fuck scans which only a high up would have access to
80% fake right off the bat. Just as bad as super blurry and tilted leaks.

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>>27355959

>>27357069
>this pasta again

(You)

>>27357100
I think because he has a similar face then the Scolipede ginjinka.

I almost wish I could fully believe these were real. They have grown on me quite a lot. But I'm still leaning towards them being fake. Feels wait to early for anyone to of leaked the final evos before the secondary ones.

In less concerned with them being real or not and more concerned with the three trillion threads we will have after about whoever gets btfo. As if pokemon go spamming this board wasn't bad enough.

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>>27357069
>Every time

>>27357119
>can't disprove anything I said
>(You) meme
not an argument

>>27357067
>Anyone can imitate the official art
Then why do we always have such shit and obvious looking fakes every gen?

>>27357120
>Scolipede ginjinka
I had to google... are they referring that the person who drew scolipede gijinka might have drawn the leaks?

>>27357148
No they just think they look alike and think it's hilarious.

>>27357164
I see. lol now i know. that pic is funny tho. it looks like she's slobbering.

>>27355166
christ

>>27357145
Because there are morons that fall for it anyway, like you and mermaidlio

>>27357042
The rowlet evo in the art is skinny. Too skinny. Pokemon with high hp are fatter than Pokemon with lower hp. It will be like emboar. Tepig had high hp

>>27357140

Nothing you said is 100% factual evidence that they're fake. Keep trying though.

>>27357211
Robinhoot & co actually look like something Poke would design

That's the difference between them and other fakes dipshit

I just want to say that even if the Chinese leak is fake that does not mean this leak is fake. The Chinese leak came after this one so yeah.

>>27357234
They don't, that's the point.

>>27357410
They look more like Pokemon then any other fake evolution out there

I feel like this is going to be the same situation as Greninja/Hawlucha/Binacle prior to the release of X/Y. People are going to be attempting to disprove these for months until some official information proves or disproves them.

Also
>"starter evolutions have never leaked so early" meme
Doesn't mean it can't happen.
>They don't even resemble Rowlet/Litten/Popplio
Neither does Greninja/Chesnaught to Froakie/Chespin. Your point?

>>27357410
>I'm in charge of what Pokemon Designs look like what

>>27355220
China, the home of bootlegs

>>27357472
These were not from the Chinese leak. The chinese leak is just a wall of text.

I think the Chinese Leaks are real. Not because of these Starter Evolutions Designs, but rather the No Gym Claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamehameha_I
>Prophecy states that the man (child) who moves the Naha Stone would be the one to unite the islands. Many tried and failed to get the stone to move from its original spot. Those who have tried were of high-ranking "naha" blood. Kamehameha was of nīʻaupiʻo descent and Ululani believed that Kamehameha was not worthy of attempting to move the stone. A story found at the Hilo Library holds that Ululani, High Chiefess of Hilo, wife of Keawemauhili, and other High Chiefs/Chiefesses were brought together by Prince Kai o Kuanui a Kanaele of Kawaihae to prophecy over Kamehameha. Ululani then introduced her son Keawe I Kahikona of Keaau Village (the only other Chief to ever lift the Naha stone) as the younger brother to Kamehameha, so later they would not fight. In the gathering of the Ohana for Unity, Keawe I Kahi Kona chose Kamehameha I over his father Keawe Mauhili. Kamehameha ignored all negativity and moved the stone. Legend says the stone was overturned. Kamehameha went on to unite the islands through a series of battles.

Having to build a League and unite the islands of Alola makes perfect sense. We would fulfill the role of Kamehameha I.

And then the guy who gives out the Strange Souvenr says "The Kalos region is nice and all, but you should really check out my region! Our Champion is really something else, I tell you…Ah, never mind. You’ll find out in due time." This could be in reference to the new protagonist, who established a Pokemon League in the Alola Region.

I'm indifferent about the designs of the Starter Evolutions, but I don't hate them. Regardless, I'm 98% sure the leak is real simply based off of this one claim.

>>27357936
>prophecy states that a man child will move the stone
Scary how accurate these prophecies can be

>>27354851
>>27354851
>>27354851

I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD IF THAT FIRE STARTER BECOMES BIPEDAL!! WHY DO THEY HATE HAVING FIRE STARTERS ON ALL FOUR !! I JUST WANT AN AWESOME FLAMING PANTHER

Assuming these are real, it'll change my choice of starter from Litten to Rowlet

>>27357936
And that's another claim that is hard to come up with if there's no real substance to it. Seriously. I am 98% sure these leaks are real as well. It sounds like a big change for GF to make on their 20th anniversary, and we would have gotten word on the gyms are by now.

>>27358028

I'm hoping August 1st will finally shed light on things. This whole thing has been madness.

>>27355277
this
this
this

popplio is definitely pop + leo (it's a sea lion) and not an allusion to prostitutes.

>blastoise
>charizard
>venasaur
>swampert
>sceptile
>blaziken

Remember when starters looked awesome as fuck? Save for johto starters, they were bland as hell as much as I love them

>>27358028
Actually I think we got gym leader information for XY this time last year, and XY came out a month earlier. I think next month is the one where we are supposed to hear about gyms since the release is a month later.

>>27354876
I agreed, the only thing that would bum me out is that Litten's final evolution is yet another Fire/Fighting type. Which proves that Masuda cannot let go of the memories of Blaziken.

>>27354851
>>27354851
>>27354851
Are you telling me I'll have to restart my game every time I get a male poplio???

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>>27354851
>being this deluded

>>27358028
It's not really that big of a change, honestly. People don't realize that the "No traditional Gyms" bit doesn't mean that the familiar formula is altered. It's still there. The only difference is that the dialogue will imply the Gym Leader characters aren't actually Gym Leaders yet.

>>27358101
Only if you have the autismalism

I don't think these are real. This leaked art has been tweeted to Sugimori and Gamefreak's Twitter accounts. They know this art is out there. If it was the real deal, would they not be on a rampage to remove the images or slap DMCAs on search engines? Hell, even come right out and say they're real?

Considering Wottergate from Gen 5, and the leaker responsible behind it was arrested, I doubt Gamefreak would just let this leaked artwork slide for as long as it has.

>>27358101
yes. or you can pick the cat instead.

>>27354851
WTF I hate GF now

>>27358097
I like the idea of it being a Fire/Dark Type as a twist on the Fire/Fighting meme.

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>they haven't been debunked yet so they're clearly real
>d-denialfags!
They say history repeats itself, but I didn't think it'd be this soon.

>>27358148
>Game Freak
>acknowelding leaks, real or fake

>>27358148
have you been hiding under a rock? it's been confirmed that these images are disappearing on google image seach. Search "Pokemon sun and moon evolutions" and you'll get all the other fake leaks except for this one. Save you have to search hard to find them there, but some get through. But pokejungle also said that these are getting removed from the search engines.

>>27354851
>>27354851
The real question is, will we get a dark type gym leader?

>>27358197
I'm still laughing at this abomination. I can't believe people wanted that thing to be real.

>>27358197

Not the only reason people think these are real. Nice try though. :^)

>>27358197
that lasted for a couple weeks. this is going on for 2 months.

>>27358234
I genuinely 100% believe its beak looks better than Rowlet's tbqh but Rowlet is better overall

>>27358226
Bullshit. no they're not. Go search "alola starter evolutions" in Google images and scroll down some. It's still there.

>>27358247
It lasted a few weeks because GF actually showed us the real starters. If they still hadn't shown the starters by now we'd still be arguing about Roothoot & friends. Just like how we'll stop arguing about this shit once we see starter evos.

>>27358148
>Or slap DMCAs on search engines

I don't know how true this claim is, because they might as well easily edited that DMCA shit because text, maybe they didn't, but there were claims of people finding DMCA notices when looking upon the name Serlimaid (which apparently is related to Miss Poppmaid here), but that might be something entirely different, who knows.

But yes, I remember some people mentioning how they tweeted that shit to Sugimori somehow. You'd think they would take action by their hands as soon he glanced upon that, but there's also the probability of "maybe if I do nuthin', they won't suspect a thing".

Anyone ever tried tweeting Pinnister to Sugimori? I'd love to see his reaction.

>>27358197
roothoot *technically* ended up being real though

>>27358265
>liking rowlet
kill yourself

>>27358314
poppliocuck pls

>>27358293
Then what are the names for the other two?

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>>27357936
I 100% agree. Here's my original thread on the idea:

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27052037/

>>27357225
>Vaporeon

Now quit this retarded meme.

>>27358360

I honestly don't know, but if anyone just so happens to know the names that were thrown together alongside Serlimaid when that name popped up, that'd be grand. I can't remember when that name started to appear.

And I might be mis-remembering, but I was sure it was Serlimaid or something similar to it.

>>27358278
no shit. look again. you have to scroll way down and look carefully for the images. these are well talked about and it's weird that i can only find 2-3 images on google images. and those images aren't the original file either, they're modified (cropped etc) to bypass the search

So even if these are anime concept art, why would there be so much filler garbage on the canvas? Compare this leaked concept art with the Kalos mons anime concept art. Also, the confidential mark is the same as the one on Noivern's concept art.

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>>27356038
Gen 5 actually had interesting starters in design and concept. Drink piss.

>>27358528
are you blind? noivern's one is red, this one is orange and the same one as used pn the art in the SM reveal trailers

>>27358580
lel no it's red.

Not to mention, that clawed foot beneath fire penis Litten3 is shoddy quality for supposed professional artwork.

>>27358536

Too bad they failed in execution. Samurott is a prime example.

>>27358595
put the two stamps next to each other and seriously say they are the same colors and dimensions again

>>27358665
I disagree. Samurott is perfectly fine imo.

>>27358666
You take a closer look and you'll see there's a weird airbrush effect over the confidential tag. Neither of the concept arts of the Kalos mons nor the one from the official reveal trailer for the games has that airbrush blur over them.

I've got the high resolution saved and am looking at it closeup in SAI.

>>27358536
Yes, but in programming and designing Samurott's movements and animations, they phoned it in during gen 5, and failed to capture it in a dynamic way when it went to 3D as well. Only the anime kind of got it right, and that's not good enough.

>>27358536

Being based on something "interesting" doesn't automatically equal a good design

>>27357458
>>I'm in charge of what Pokemon Designs look like what
>hurr they look more like pokemon than the other fake ones
>lel what do you know about pokemon looks durr
Literally mermaid logic

>>27357458
You don't sound biased at all.

>>27358728
I'll take "what are jpg artifacts" for $200, Jerry.

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>>27354851
>yet another cool starter concept trashed by fucking anthropomorphic design

>>27358829
>new ones are super busy and don't have names
welp

>>27358927
Who the hell wants actual monsters? Humans in fursuits are what's in, get with the times, grandpa.

>>27358074

Ilio is Hawaiian for dog, sea lions are referred to as water dogs there

>>27358966
There's also colour codes listed, which makes even less sense with using eyedropper tool in digital art programs.

>>27359007
Do you have any idea how printing works?

>>27358927
The concept can't fucking working unless it's bipedal. I mean I'm sure it could but fucking Samurott still triggers people to this day. This has got to be one of the most shallow things people bitch about.

>>27358975
>Humans in fursuits

How autistic or scared of furries are you to take things so literal?

>>27359042
Then trash the concept, it isn't worth it if you're just making fucking humans out of it.

>>27357722
So much desperate reaching...

>>27359064
I was replying to the person saying it was a good concept, and that's fucking stupid logic as well. They should come up with fun ideas and make them work as necessary, not try to meet some arbitrary quota of quadrupedal versus bipedal animals.

>>27359090
Good thing no one was talking about quadrupedal VS bipedal then.
See Empoleon, you don't need to make it a fucking human for it to be bipedal.

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>>27358871
What makes a design good relies on personal subjective preference. There are people who prefer simplistic designs that don't need much understanding such as recolored animals with a nearly non existent concept. Then a there are people who like designs that take more than a single though to fully grasp to the point of actually researching for it. Such as animals with a design motif that comes from a complex origin.

Its satisfying that Gamefreak is appealing to the later crowd. With Solgaleo not being a fire type and all.

>>27359107
What the fuck are you talking about. What is the difference in reference to Tora3? It isn't literally a person if that's what you're implying. How the fuck do you make a bipedal tiger and not have it look like how it does? At best you could maybe have made it more hunched over or something, but that's nitpicky as shit.

What SHOULD the real final evos be?
I'll start
>Rowlet -> either harpy or gryphon
>Litten -> Manticore or Chimera
>Popplio -> Narwhal or ??

>>27359138
>Rowlet
Bigger bird of prey

>Litten
Quadroped

>Poppilo
Samurott without the samurai motif/Walrein

>>27359150
God you are an unimaginative fuck

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>>27355289
>and sloth is supposed to be lazy, its evolution makes no sense

>>27357088
>Does it mean that Popplio will ABSOLUTELY 100% be fairy/cute? No, but it makes it extremely likely.

Can you read?
And it's not really a pattern, it's more of a "flavor" thing. Givind Disarming Voice to a Pokémon that doesn't fit those characteristics would be like giving Bite to a Pokémon with no mouth.

>>27359138
It would be kind of fun if the starters did more RPG classes to finish off what last gen started
>Knight Chespin
>Rogue Froakie
>Mage Fennekin
>Archer Rowlet
>Bard Popolio
>Cleric Litten

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>>27358226
>it's been confirmed that these images are disappearing on google image seach.
No this is bullFUCKINGshit, the pics were in Mays but they didn't spread very much on internet because Balio&co were on the spot until they were debunked by D.I then there was the "chinese leaks" who confirmed those evo because they were the only believable and then they were spread on the net. But the chinese leaks is too inconsistent to be believable and it has no verifiable info.
Some peoples want to believe that they are real so they spam this thread, I don't know what it will change.
Anyway they can't prove them real aside the Chinese leaks and there is more things that disprove them.

>>27359172
>dat toddler rage
I was just making a general description.

>>27359190
>RPG theme in an RPG XD
Wow, so fucking meta.

>>27359190
I kind of would like it if they did too but its kind of lost once you get past the big 3 of knight, mage, rogue, and they even took quite a bit of liberty with them as is, conceptually with Greninja (rogue being interpreted as "ninja") and Chesnaught design-wise. I feel like it'd kind of get muddied up if they tried to continue with other staple RPG classes.

>>27354980
I think the whole "too feminine" thing is a legit concern. I mean, the starters are meant to appeal to both girls and boys. A too feminine starter is quite frankly retarded. I could easily see nine year old boys going "ew, it has cooties" or something. Even Delphox, while feminine-esque, still has a certain degree of gender ambiguity in its design. On that note, I think Tiger Mask is a bit too masculine.

>>27354851
> Rowlet: (Arrow + Owlet) Uses feathers as daggers, naturally, it will evolve to an archer owl that uses feathers as arrows. Great design and concept.

Just no.

Rowlet: (Round + Owlet)

>>27355249
Charmander only learned Metal Claw by level up in FRLG--implying that it was given to him to balance Brock for the three starters. It has never again been able to learn it via level-up.

Totodile learns Bite because he's a fucking alligator.

Chespin learns Rollout because it's a fucking hedgehog.

Meanwhile, whether or not Popplio ends up being Fairy, it learning Disarming Voice suggests it will be cutesy or feminine.

>>27354851
So, if these are proven fake, and Rowlet's final evo has nothing to do with it being an archer, are people still going to cling to it being arrow+owlet or are they going to accept that it was just round+owlet all along?

>>27359248
It's really not this simple. On the contrary, maybe they want to make a starter to explicitly appeal to girls to make them feel more inclusive. You could considering the incorrect way to go about it but it's one interpretation to show that your interpretation might not be what's going on in their head. We've also had blatantly masculine starters besides Litten3 as well. I don't necessarily believe these are real but I just think this is a really flimsy ground to stand on as a reason for why they aren't.

>>27359293
No, they'll just bitch and cry about it while still believing they're real with whatever possible rationalisation they can for the next month.
Then they'll make a bunch of threads for the next months after that about how Game Freak has shit designers, then they'll finally shut the fuck up.
Just like every other time.

>>27359328
People still blame Joe for Wottergate.

>>27359293

No of course not because it's Rufflet + Owl, not Round + Owlet :^)

>>27359317

I take contention with the thought that Popplio3 is inherently more feminine than any other Pokemon that is ostensibly "feminine" in appearance but can be male or female. Lopunny comes to mind, Milotic, etc. People always seem to forget anyway that these are Japanese-designed creatures, and Japan has much different views of masculinity/femininity than the west does. Shouldn't we be considering what feminine might look like to a Jap?

>>27354851
I'd be up for these but the only thing I hate about the designs is the paws on the Litten final. They're a little too exaggerated, even for Pokemon.

>>27359347
I don't see how Japan sees feminine is an issue. I also don't really see how it being more feminine than any other Pokemon which off the top of my head I guess I kind of agree save for Mega Gardevoir if tht counts matters either. Like I said, I don't necessarily believe these are real or that pandering to females is necessarily what they are going for, but it would be a possible reason to make one of the starters look explicitly female.

>>27359138
>Popplio
becomes a Merlion

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>>27359197
>the pics were in Mays

>>27354851
>litten's final evo is bipedal
Well, isn't that fucking gay. Just real fucking gay.

>>27359231
I think they could have another generation of that theme if it's just like that. Bard Clown and Ranger Rowlet are thematically fitting enough to be included without necessarily filling the theme up.

Besides, we got two Journey To the West Fire/Fighting gold circlet decorated starters in a row.

>>27359437
You were expecting variety in starters?
That would require effort...is what I'd say, but if they really did make Litten look like this it'd be taking more effort to make it look so shitty. Really dumb.

>>27359138
Rowlet turns into the gamesphere
Popolio turns into feels guy
Litten turns into the crying emoji

we get the meme starter generation

>>27359388
No I'm not taking issue with the starters. I don't know if they're real. I hope they are, cause I really like them and the butthurt on /vp/ will be stupendous but I keep seeing, "Oh, Popplio3 is too feminine, it'd never fly!"

But that doesn't make sense. Japanese designers would have a different view of femininity. Like how Gardevoir's Japanese name is "Sir Knight".

Maybe Popplio3 is just meant to be bishie, like Zarbo, Claw, Dio, etc. Japan has an entire trope of a "pretty boy" character who looks exceedingly female but is male. So Popplio's design appearing too feminine to us doesn't mean it'd appear too feminine to the designers.

>>27359456
It really doesn't take any amount more effort to keep Litten quadrupedal than it does to make it bipedal. It's not like they made it bipedal for no reason. There's pretty clearly an idea behind it that makes it bipedal. I doubt they're dwelling on how many fire starters stand upright versus on all fours more than trying to think of designs they think are appealing and creative in general regardless of its orientation.

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>>27359422
My bad it was in the beginning of June and Balio&co weren't debunked yet.
But it doesn't prove me wrong.
http://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/26606744/#26609482

>>27359641
>4th of June
>There are people that were making it sound like it already had two months when it only has one month and twenty one days

wew

>>27359197
>thinking people are only using the Chinese leak for why they're real
>thinking the Chinese leak has any connection with these evolutions beyond merely mentioning them

>>27354851
These are fake and ppl just post em to shitpost. We already had real leaks and from an actual reliable source.

>>27360007
Links or it didn't happen.

>>27360038

It's the images don't fall for it

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>>27358829

>>27360084
The part I'm questioning is the "We already had real leaks and from an actual reliable source." part. Otherwise, I believe the Chinese Leaks based off of>>27357936

>>27360084
Those are the final types for the starters anon. Being a denialfag only makes things worse.

>>27360176
The chinese leaks starters do not match the types leaked from the official jap webpage. That alone debunks all this chinese bs imo

>>27360187

Or it's a programming error...

Ever thought of that?

>>27360269
You mean the Ground/Fighting things? That's not concrete at all. Easily just an accident. The Kamehameha Theory is more concrete than that.

>>27360275
>Programming error

what in the fuck

how are files left unused with numbered filenames in the website's databasa a programming error

how does one simply forget its unused Fighting and Ground type icons in there even although there weren't even any pokemon to justify its typings at that point

>>27360340
They may have intended to reveal a Ground Type or a Fighting Type Pokemon but later changed their minds?

I mean.
I like the designs, Grass and Fire especially, they're really good designs and I would be very happy with them.
I don't think it's impossible that they're real, but I ultimately don't believe they actually are.

>>27360366

so okay

but when you think about it, the only pokemon that use that typing at this moment is the raffa horse which is Ground and Bewear, which is Normal/Fighting.

where's the normal type tho, if they had intended to show them much earlier, you'd think Normal type would be icon 07 or something.

>>27360421
Well first of all, there is no guarantee saying that the Type Cards were originally meant for Mudsdale and Bewear. They easily could have been for different Ground Type and/or Fighting Type Pokemon.

Another thing to consider is that the order means nothing. Solgaleo comes before Lunala, but the order of the Type cards were Psychic, then Ghost, then Steel.

Seriously, the whole Type Card argument is straw grasping at it's finest. Easily just a mistake.

>>27354851
There's pretty much no way any of these are legit but
>owl final form
Pretty 8/10 desu, looks great, will use
>litten final form
Fuck that, 4/10, edgy cat wrestler
>popplio final form
Also pretty great, I wouldn't mind that at all.

>>27360418
That's how I feel, I'd love to see them animated in games or on the show, but I don't think it'll happen.

>>27359262
>it learning Disarming Voice suggests it will be cutesy or feminine
Or it will be a sea lion, because they are known for making a huge amount of sounds

>>27355292
>>27354851
>YASSS
kys gofag

>>27355281
>omg
>not getting the point
WEW

>>27354851
>round+owlet
>pop+gigolo

how about no.

round+owlet(it's a round owlet, use your brain).

popplio could be various things, but gigolo? what the fuck. this is a children's games. a gigolo is a male escort. here are some more tame examples, from people who actually do some goddamn research; pup(as in seal pup), pop, popo (hawaiian for ball), and iLIO-holo-i-ka-uaua (hawaiian for the hawaiian monk seal, "dog who runs thru water"). there's also sea LIOn. most of popplio's other names have something to do with balls, playfulness and sea lions.

whether or not these leaks are real or fake? eh? but don't use the names to fuel your argument when you're wrong about 2/3 of them.

That Hawaiian legend is legit tho

>>27360706
Then why wouldn't it learn Uproar, you mongoloid?

>>27361046

Good point

>>27361046
who says it doesn't? also you know who else learns uproar?
>exeggcute
>hoothoot
>rotom
>azelf
>vanillite
>spinda

the other meaning for an uproar is a public protest of outrage and the Japanese name for it translates to clamor. this move is more about flailing about and shouting angrily, i guess.

>>27359248
Emboar and Samurott have freaking beards, and Braixen wears a skirt/stockings.

>>27354851
> Rowlet: (Arrow + Owlet)
>Popplio: (Pop + Gigolo)

Whilst I like those designs, you're being a raging faggot, OP. Stop it.

>>27359262
>implying hedgehogs actually roll when they're curled up
What are you, fucking retarded?

>>27358094
>XY this time last year
>this time last year
>last year
I didn't realise that XY came out at the end of 2015, a year after ORAS.

>>27361926
It's a fucking ball for G's sake! Are you implying that cows roll when they're curled up like Miltank?! SERIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST DUMB! USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN YOU DIMWIT!

>>27362033
>G's sake
>dumb
>dimwit

Underageb& confirmed.

My point is simply that the logic of "it's a hedgehog, therefore it makes sense that it knows rollout" is flawed, especially since, as you just pointed out, something like Miltank does not need to roll up into a ball for it to learn Rollout either, so using that reasoning for Chespin is unnecessary, let alone nonsensical.

Use YOUR brain, you fuckwit.

>>27357936
Bumping.

>>27362076


>underaged (not underageb) [ME]

You're probably a 30 year old that still plays Pokemon and enjoys getting into arguments with underaged people who happens to be smarter than your overaged brain. Considering the original animation of rollout is a fucking ball that's rolling. He's not only talking about the animal behind Chespin's design, but also it's concept considering its evolution are of some ball.

>>27362558
>2016
>not knowing about underageb&
>underageb& confirmed

So for proof on this, we have:

The stamp being the same as the trucks.

The artstyle matching the normal style.

Possibility of Rowlet's name also being "Arrow + Owlet" along with "Round + Owlet".

Masuda said they want the pokemon to be more expressive, the concepts shows said pokemon being expressive.

The artist hasn't come forward on this, which is strange.

There may actually be no league considering the hawaiian legend mentions "uniting the islands" ie making the league.

etc.

>>27363487

Don't forget the Disarming Voice debacle too.

>>27363560

Ehhh...

While Fairy type moves are for cute/feminine Pokemon, it doesn't ENTIRELY confirm Water/Fairy.

>>27363571
I didn't say that. But it points it to the direction of Popmaid being a siren. For all we know it's Water/Psychic or some other combination.

just fyi sirens are bird women who stand on rocks in the water when they aren't flying or something

This thread makes me cringe

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Patiently waiting for Timmy Turner's execution and his latest round of shilled fakes to die.

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>>27354851
>Great design and concept.
God no it's so fucking shit it makes the mermaid look good. Retarded concept, even worse execution.

>>27363817
>Hating owltair
end yourself

>>27363857

>Owl Archer that uses its wing as a bow.

>Tiger Wrestler that cheats to win and shoots flames out a WWE belt.

>Sea Lion Siren that uses its voice to charm people.

These are creative tho.

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>>27363627
That's a freakin' harpie you mongoloid.

>>27363857
Tell me what your ideas. Let's see if you come up with a clever set more appealing than these. These are smart concepts, unless your dumb head has something to offer. Come on.

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>>27363857

I bet you like Ballio and Co.

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>>27363950
http://www.theoi.com/Pontios/Seirenes.html

>>27363487
It is worth noting that a Fake Leaker would have had to do a lot of research to make such a vague point about there not being Gyms.

Also, the XY Leak had false information in it (Professor Patrice, Psychic resisted Fairy, etc.) So the Starter Designs could easily be a part of that, though I'd rather think that the part about Ash-Greninja is fake because I just can't see it being in Sun/Moon and making sense.

>>27364245

But the thing is, the concept designs has SO MUCH going for it, at this point, they're all but confirmed.

and imo I'm going to punch a wall if they're fake because I would've spent SO MUCH time looking at every detail trying to piece together information that makes it real.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I was one of the first people to make the connection of the stamp between the trucks and the concepts.

>>27364282
Well... Maybe after whatever "leaker" drew them...

>>27364282
I'm the guy who posted >>27357936, so like I said, I'm indifferent to the Starters Designs. I like them, but I'm not super convinced about them.

Though, I will agree they have a lot going for them. As a Fakemon Artist myself (>inb4 DeviantArt Fag), I've noticed little quircks and characteristics the newer Pokemon seem to have, and these fit the bill right down to a tee.

>>27364338

Yeah, and the weird thing is is we literally only had five pokemon, correct me if I'm wrong, when this was released, I'm sure the common quirk should've been noticeable after that.

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>>27363902
Nothing creative about picking a random animal and attaching a bow somewhere on it's body. If it was at least a body part that can work like a string, then yes, but it's just completely unrelated unlike seals and fairies and tigers and wrestling.

I wouldn't call that creative, it's more like not having any better ideas actually.

>>27363966
You seem upset. It's not my fault if you like shit you know?
I could came up with something better if I was paid for it, yes.
For startes I would make sure of not drawing an ugly bird with harry potter glasses, edgeworth's cravat and travolta's pants. Oh and to also include a plant part somewhere, I suppose.
>paint it green
>call it grass
What a hack. The plant kingdom is so big, and that's the only thing they could came up with.

>>27363977
Don't worry I don't. But at least that clown is just ugly, not complete shit.

>>27364378

tfw the strings from its hood IS the string it uses.

>>27364364
The Alola Starters, Solgaleo, Lunala, and Magearna, so six. Regardless, by "quircks and characteristics" I mean little features about the Pokemon designs that give them personality. It's not something new, either. Braixen and Delphox using Fire moves through their wands is something like that, for example. Or if you want a more recent example, Rowlet being able to turn it's head around is another. The Rowlet Evolution being able to shoot feather arrows from it's "bow" tie is an example of this. The fire belt on the Litten Evolution is another. They're unique and have a lot of personality to them, which is quite hard for Fakemon Artists to accomplish.

It seems like a lot of work for someone to put into faking these and then never taking credit

>>27364527

Yeah, I mean, they could be hiding.

>>27364527
Maybe he just wanted to ruse everybody.

Anyway, if these are real then I'll just choose Rowlet instead, it's the least shit of the trio and I'll have a fire type and water type in my team anyway.

Also, what if the leaks are real but GF changed the starter evos to fuck with us?

>>27364585

But didn't Balio artist want to do the same and came out a few weeks or a month later?

The thing about GF... that would suck but why would they change the evos, especially when they have fully detailed concept art of them?

>>27364568
>>27364585

It's just SO much work. Think about how much work had to go into these. Let's assume that the "faker" only faked the images and absolutely none of the other "corroborating" leaks:

He'd have to:

1.) Come up with three extremely solid, fully-realized concepts for starters relatively soon (starters were revealed May 10th, these first started showing up in late May/early June). I say this because anyone who thinks these starters are like, say, Ballio or others is kidding themselves. I haven't seen any fakes that are as fully-realized and conceptual as these.

2.) Draw these three extremely, fully-realized concepts in near-perfect Suigi/Ohmo style, so much that no one has been able to concretely debunk them based on stylistic issues alone, and draw these concepts in several poses and exhibiting various mechanics and personalities of said designs

3.) Know Jap well enough for the various notes to NOT be gibberish, like other similar fakes are. Of course, the faker could simply be Japanese himself (but why leak these on 4chan and not 2chan?)

4.) Have a working knowledge of concept art panels that very closely match the style of Gamefreak's internal concepts. Especially the 'color palette' notes in each, I don't think any regular faker would even think to include those.

It's a lot to assume. Even the Ballio artist needed some time to finish and leak out all of his designs, and they didn't have nearly as much minor details or as fully-realized a concept as these three do.
Obviously there is literally no smoking gun either way, but I feel safe in saying these are likely real. At the very least, we've never before gotten such convincing leaks with as many coincidences as these three.

>>27364585
>>27364632

>Changing designs

This would absolutely never happen. While there are indeed a few months left to go before the game goes gold, the amount of work it'd require to change the designs (imagine the workload the anime artists, merch designers, promotional artists, 3D artists, etc. would all have to go through) means they'd just grin and bear the leaks.

If these ARE real, I think it's more likely they're very early concepts than the final concepts will be changed

>>27364378
okay well you're not getting paid, so maybe if you were good enough, you would have been the one designing them in the first place, which is clearly not the case.. in short, you suck

>>27354851
That Rowlet final evo is godamn genius.

>>27364689
exactly what I'm thinking. People who don't draw don't know how much WORK and TIME you put into art, moreso this kind of conceptual art. Where the artist have to research, before drawing. And it seems like these are well-thought of designs, not a few weeks to come up with them and DRAW them.

Mermaid (if it's real) and Bruxish are the only the only Pokemon I like in this generation so far.

>>27364918
Yeah, people who spend all their time trying to nitpick details like, "Rowlet's feet look weird!" are missing the fact that every single one of these has several applications of their concept going on, creating three fully realized personalities for each design (which ties into GF's design philosophy that each Pokemon design would have its own distinct personality,
which we only learned recently)

Rowlet is very clearly a bit geeky and maybe even awkward. Litten is clearly aggressive but also kind of lazy. Popplio has the least going on, but kind of looks bishie to me (as opposed to feminine as everyone says)

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>>27365061
>but kind of looks bishie to me (as opposed to feminine as everyone says)

I think so too but western fans aren't used to that classic shoujo trope (atleast the ones not into anime for girls which I think make up a big part of this board) so it's understandable why they see it as overly feminine.

>>27355445
I really like this art and all, but one foot has 3 talons and the other has 4

>>27365215

They both have four

>>27356891
It's Nyaa (meow) and tabby (breed of cat)

>>27358139
This, the format is the same, just the set up is different.