THESE ARE REAL YA'LL

>>27340128
>and come back when you finally evolve your starters.
If these are real then I'll be boxing them.

>>27340128
these are so fucking bad

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>>27340128
popplio's final evo look like the dolls from the creepy ass guy on /v/

one of the most blatant falseflags ive ever seen, stay butthurt sealsbarkfag

>They're real because they are inspired on data everyone knows about
Fuck you we just broke out of the fire/fighting shitshow

>>27340144

oh please, the only bad one is Litten's.

>>27340138
You'll like them in a year if they are real espcially if they are good in battle. People have said the same thing about new starters for years but Embroar is the only starter that people seem to consistently dislike.

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>>27340177
In my opinion they need to fix his hands and they'll all be good but Arrowl is still the best.

>>27340144
Dubs confirm these evos are shit. And a lot of people say that Litten wrestler is Fire/Dark but lets be real here, if GF gives it Fire/Fighting no one would question it. Im just fucking sick of biped humanoid fire starters.

>>27340128
yeah i think they are 90% confirmed.

>>27340144
What are you talking about bad? How are they bad?! From all the fakes, this one is the only set that are interesting, fitting for the PokeUniverse and they have awesome concepts.

>>27340194

This. People always whine like it's the end of the world about the designs of starters at first, no matter what they look like.

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>mfw they look like an autistic addition to characters in the sonic universe on deviant art

>there are still people on this board who refuse to believe the typing fiasco that went down and that these starters are real

>>27340144

Waste of dubs.

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>>27340176
>Barf

>>27340233
You're definitely autistic if you think that...

>Litten spits fireballs and has a fuse like tail
>cannon/bomb motif ignored for anthro wrestler out of nowhere

Why do people get so adamant fakes must be real anyway? Just because they were right once doesn't mean every image posted is correct, we've seen 50 other leaks that were false why bother with more?

>>27340211
>fitting for the poke universe
these look like chinese knock-off pokemon. Because that's what they are. Fake Chinese pokemon. I'd rather have ballio and friends so Litten and Rowlett wouldn't end up so bad

>>27340236
>typing fiasco

Say what now? Explain

>>27340250
Look at how fucking stupid they all look. Do you honestly think these can be possibly real? It looks like it was designed by a child
>and he's gonna have huge claws!
>and a belt, with a fire emblem on it!
>oh oh oh and, aaaand OH AND A BUNCH OF SPIKES!

>>27340194
I did the same for gen 6.
Eat shit, faggot.

>>27340272
this they looks so fucking fake, are you guys actually dumb?

>>27340288
>>27340276
>>27340272

How familiar

>>27340267
He's not saying all leaks are real, these particular ones just happen to NOT have a furfag attention whore to claim they did them yet. No proofs, which leads many to think that GF purposely posted these online.

>cannon/bomb concept
why the hell would you think that? He definitely looks like a mischievous kinda starter that would evolve into a cheating tiger wrestler. I love him

>>27340272
please check with your optometrist

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>>27340128

>Feathers as arrows

YAAAAS!!!!

>>27340128
They still deviate from the stats of the starters. Rowlet has the highest HP, so it's evolution should be the physically bulkiest.

>>27340281

Isn't going to make them go away. Faggot. :^)

>>27340461
>Seen final evos' stats.

how the f*ck do you know robinhoot doesn't have a high HP. Remember GF has broken a lot of traditional stuff this gen so far.

>>27340144
This. Well, mainly just Poppilo's. Unless it has a male version like Gardevoir (except same species instead of new pokemon a la Gallade).

>>27340521
I'm just saying Robinhoot does not look like a high-stats starter. Rowlet does, because it's the bulkiest of the three. But Tiger Mask is the bulkiest of the three "leaked" evolutions. So it just seems weird design-wise.

>>27340336
How's that Roothoot going, buddy?

>>27340461
Popplio has similar or higher base HP than Rowlet. Rowlet has been narrowed down to be in the 50s range while Popplio's is much more broad but is likely in the upper 50s or lower 60s.

>>27340551
>it's feminine so it's bad

sick of this meme.

>>27340556
>>27340521
I meant to say it doesn't look like a high-HP Pokemon

>>27340567
Nice shitpost.

>>27340564
Even so, wouldn't that mean Popplio should get the bulkier final evolution?

>>27340567
Even Gardevoir, Delphox, and the most "feminine" Pokemon that everyone clings to could at least be sort of seen as having a masculine counterpart.

Unless you're advocating more Male-Female evolution splits and differences, which would be cool, these designs are fake as fuck. I don't know why there's people even shitposting otherwise.

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>>27340583
it does look bulky. like freakin mermaid chansey

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>>27340128
SO yes, why would..

>Popbro enjoy performing to the point of overexerting power? All you denialfags can't even justify that without denying that he will indeed evolve into a muscular clown.

>Hoomie-Rowl using his feathers as weapons? That greatly backs up his evo having to use his awesome feathers as throwing knives.

>Litten using hairballs to attack, his evo spits like a cannon in opponent's face. Don't worry bros, he will be Fire/Dark not Fighting like some gayboys were thinking before.

I don't know about ya'll but everything is pointing out to these three evos to be real. Considering that no one has stepped up to claim that they made these. Also I believe that GF purposely put these out to gauge how fans would react to them, they can't risk another Gen V happening where they released/leaked the starter evos too late, they didn't give the furfags the time to warm up to them. This time around is different. :D Screencap this ya'll and come back when you finally evolve your starters.

>>27340272
>>27340276
>>27340288
>I don't like the designs, so they're fake

Just epic

>>27340611
I'd say Tiger Mask is bulkiest but I see where you're coming from

>>27340606
No, fuck you, Gardevoir is not fucking percievable as male at fucking all, eat shit. They made a fucking male only evolution of it to contrast with the explicitly fucking feminine original for fuck's sake. You do NOT pull that contrarian bullshit.

>>27340583
It should, but at the same time stuff like Milotic exists.

>>27340628
>they're real until proven fake
Fuck off.

>>27340642
Who are you quoting?

>>27340551
>i'm so insecure everything has to either be neutral or masculine
>nothing overly feminine allowed!

>>27340367
Litten ignites its hairballs to use as fireballs, which could easily become bombs as it evolves.

>>27340642

Never said they were real. Just saying that disliking them is not factual evidence that they are fake.

>>27340658
A lot of people, actually.

>>27340622
you think these are superior designs than what OP posted? I don't think so. And someone already stepped up to making these. Try harder denialfag.

>>27340367
>mischievous
The only thing that hints at dark is Litten having a cool/composed personality and even then that's a stretch.

>>27340698
the side eye and quiet personality doesn't give it away for you? Like Kiki's cat.

>people here actually want furbait seal
You degenerates deserve to be shot

>>27340367
>He definitely looks like a mischievous kinda starter that would evolve into a cheatinf tiger wrestler

There is literally nothing of Litten's apathetic, cool and collected visage that would suggest that.

If they're real, they would easily be the worst starter trio of all time. I was hyped for the Owl but I would pick it then immediately box it when I can if those evos are real.

>>27340696
>denialfag
This implies that he's denying something plausible, such as the idiot that said Zygarde complete wouldn't be in the game, only two get BTFO soon after.
The garbage in the OP has no reason to be believed any more than Ballio & pals did.

>>27340716
It's a cat that looks and acts like a cat.

>>27340567
Why are you gay?

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>>27340128
Sure

>>27340716
You're reading into shit that's not there.

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>>27340211

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>>27340724
>HURR DURR YOU JUST WANT TO FAP TO IT

>>27340749
don't people do that here a lot?

Cats are evil bastards.

>>27340730
>thinking these are worst than Gen. 5's

wew lad

>>27340759
Correct.
Otherwise no one would be dedicating their time to defending fakes of all things.

>>27340771

God, no one can be this retarded and close minded.

>>27340762
Everyone doing it doesn't mean it's valid reasoning you sheep.

>>27340770
You're dumb. Sorry.

>>27340745
Seriously? How old are you?

>>27340669
people who support these monstrosities confirmed for tumblr

>>27340771
funny considering no-one on this board spends half as much time defending them as you do opposing them

>>27340724
>projecting this much

> Denial and fear general

>>27340800
That's debatable

>>27340669
Not what I said at all, shitposter.

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>>27340144
fucking this

Why couldn't Ballio be real? literally 9/10's across the board for pics related.

Atleast Rowlet will be the least shit of the three.

>>27340767
Me too!

>>27340815
Yeah, it's sad that there's a group of tards that actually want these to be real.
They'll be severely disappointed.

>>27340794
Older than you, faggot.

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>>27340800

They defend them on other threads but I guess it's not that.

Here's a picture tho.

>>27340825
>fire starter that doesn't go bipedal
It was never meant to be.

>>27340367
I'm not saying he thinks all leaks are real, they all contradict each other, just that you have to be a retard to insist any leak is real

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I just want Popplio to have a nice mom.

Would you rather pretty elegant serious mom or goofy clown mom?

>>27340128
>everything
>nothing

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>>27340128
>>27340815
>your faces on the right
Me on the left.

>>27340827
That's not what the poll said~

>>27340825
They are too good for this world. Pinnister is my favorite starter that never fucking existed.

>>27340827

Screencapping when you get BTFO instead.

>>27340855
>poll
>~
You don't even try to hide that you're shitposting.

>>27340854
>thinking there won't be angry people if these are real

>>27340800
>dat reaching
Ah yes, the countless spam of people claiming they are real and talk about "denialfags" doesn't exist, right.

>>27340849
I'll settle for this desu. But Tiger Mask needs to fall in a pit and die.

>>27340862
That's fine.
In the end, I'll still have Vikavolt as my true starter.

>>27340815
But theres two different sets people keep posting, you can't both all scream about denial when one side must be wrong

>>27340854
Lol pls, I have been perfectly calm in every thread while I watch the same posters blow gaskets over "furfags" and "chinks" even going so far to say they'll quit the series if the leaks are real.

Play this game with someone else anon.

>>27340854
That's not what is actually happening though:
>"Oh nice, new leaks! Let's theorycraft and try to disprove them!"
>"lol any1 w/ a brains can see that they are deviantart fake furshit garbo"
>"Hm... We can't find anything that 100% disproves this, and we even learned Popplio learns a move that checks out with the leaks. Interesting..."
>"fuck off mermaidfucker u just want them to be raelz so u can fap to them"

>>27340887
>>27340894
No one's going to believe you when all your kind does is squirm and scream about denialfags.

>>27340894
Revisionism, really? Just read the thread and lurk /vp/ more. You're blinded by your own bias.

>>27340887
>im not mad i swear
Enjoy your 0.1 hours of playtime come November.

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>>27340272
Surprised it took this long for a balliofag to show up.

>>27340622
And more surprised at how much longer it took for a picture of ballio to be posted.

>>27340911
Where's the revisionism? The people opposing them are by far the most aggressive posters who'd rather shout buzzwords than sit down and talk for the fun of it, which you should know if you've been posting at all on /vp/ ever since these started gaining traction.

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>>27340911
Why would I be mad? I'll be laughing as I play and read /vp/ at the same time my darling.

This thread turned retarded fast

>>27340854
how does this one even make any sense when the anons who hate tony the tiger and friends are the ones who say they will refund their game if they are real ?

Dudes this is so obvious

>Popplio learns a fairy type move
>Game Freak never ever has baffling movesets or breaks patterns I made up
>Therefore Final evo is water/fairy
>This Leak with no evidence also has it as water/fairy
>This leak must be real as no one could possibly just guess the typing

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>>27340825
They all get incredibly edgy very fast

I can't believe people like these

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>>27340144
I agree I fucking hate furbait pokemon

>>27340933
Balliofags are irrelevant. They are fake and there is no more debate surrounding them. All they are now is another example to teach the retards on this board not to eat up shit so easily.

I've always wondered if that serial spammer in these threads was that guy spazzing about fairy type in the Pokejungle comment section.

>>27340968
"Edgy" is as much of a criticism as calling the ones in the OP furbait is.

>>27340128
The water one is like a meinshao, but doesn't look too great. The other two are nice tho

>>27340965
According to their logic Chespin becomes a rock type and Totodile becomes Dark.

>>27340939
>im not mad i swear

>>27340962
>>27340935
>b-but naysayers
Has nothing to do with the others, just the ones defending it which are just as bad as the ones you denounce. Nor have I been defending them or mentioning them.
READ: "you on the right" & "me on the left". Ring a bell?

>>27340854
Whoever made that is under the age of 18.

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>he doesn't like the tiger

>>27340935
>sit down and talk for the fun of it

Is that what you call 24/7 threads on the front page of "these are real"

Theres a difference between speculation and being gullible idiots, aggression is warranted when these threads refuse to stop

>>27340965
>l-looks like i cant win this one so i'll just post a passive aggressive greentext! that'll show them !

>>27340267
People thought Tepig was gonna be based on a bomb when he was first revealed as well and guess what we got?

>>27341010
Do you honestly consider this a valid argument?
I'm curious. There has been so much bait in these threads that I can't tell if you're just genuinely retarded or not.

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>>27340998
>You are mad because I say so

K babe I'll be mad all the way to the end up my game with my cute starters,

>>27340998
What logic?

>>27340965
This
Water/Fairy was being predicted from the day the starters were first revealed

>>27341027
Yeah I do fuck face you sit there and for some reason think Litten will have a canonball/bomb type evolution all based on a fucking tail design

>>27341010
As opposed to people thinking Poppilo learns one fairy move and now all of a sudden it's going to be Water/Fairy?
>chespin
>charmander
>any starter that learns bite

>>27341001
>dat butthurt

>>27341028
See you in gen 8 then when that happens. I'll have beaten the game by month's end with Tigroar.

>>27341030
. . .

>>27340998
>Ring a bell?
Oh yes, the picture that you conveniently first posted in the same thread where you had previously made two dozen posts about how only mermaid fuckers want these to be real?

>>27341008
But my reasons are right there, even if it is water/fairy that doesn't mean the leak must be true

If he was shown with force palm would ballio be confirmed?

>>27341046
The people who think Popplio will be fairy type based on one move are right there with the idiots who believe Litten has a bomb theme because of a tail design

In short both sides are retarded faggot

>>27341044
I never said I think Litten will evolve to have some cannonball/bomb motif, but your argument is just weak.
>fans thought this one fire starter would have a bomb motif in its evos but it didn't, so this new one can't!
Not only that, but Litten actually has a tail that looks like a fuse, unlike Tepig.
Again, not saying I believe it'll evolve like that, but your argument is just shit.

The Chinese leak says they are, and it was right about some shit.

I'll give em a 50% chance of being real, I like them all a lot honestly.

Robinhoot is based.

Hope the wrestler gets a dark move that's SE vs fighting pokemon.

>Muh quadruped litten...
Who cares if they're bipeds, seriously.

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>>27341046
If that helps you cope with the embarrassment anon then I'll let you believe it.

>>27341097
>Who cares if they're bipeds, seriously.
Yeah, fuck variety. Let's just have humanoid starters for the next several gens.

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>>27340825

>>27341044
Are you really gonna turn to flaming? Really?

>>27341107
It's a deal!

>>27341082
>Shoots out balls
>whiskers look like kinda muzzle flash
>cats are long and thin like a cannon
>Tail fuse
>Of course fire type

I'm not saying cannon confirmed but it's hardly retarded to speculate, definitely more likely than a fucking wrestler

>>27340267
I hate all of the three desu.

But littens supposed final evo is such absolute shit. It looks like the villain in some Iranian thundercats knock off cartoon.

>>27341044
>Fire type
>Spits hairballs
>Fuse looking tail

The idea is completely beyond reasonable though, I agree.

>>27340128
>No mid evos
FAKE

>>27341061
Not my posts. See what I've typed below.

>>27341082
Uh, duh. I've already said I'm not defending the shitters. See what I've typed below.
>you in charge of reading

>>27341102
>defending yourself so hard against someone who doesn't mind the leaks
>mental gymnastics
>resorting to desperation and posting images
Guys I think I mindbroke this shitposter.

>>27341141
>>27341121
I never said it was beyond reasonable I said thinking it has a canon motif because of a tail design doesn't mean much

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>>27341076
If he learned force palm and ballio had not already been deconfirmed then yes, I would have been a believer, since everything that learns force palm is a fighting type can use their... well, palms. That's a clear pattern right there.

The problem is when people start calling patterns "made up" just because they don't conform with their personal opinions, only to come to conclusions that are even less based in reality.

>>27341154
Fakes aside, hopefully we'll see the midevos soon even though I know it's unlikely.
I just want this shitshow to end.

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>>27341157
I image post in every thread babe and there were no mental gymnastics involved I was simply denying false allegations directed towards me.

>Litten the fastest one of them all in the Battle Royal trailer
>Becomes a large and bulky mon

Roothoot is more "real" than these

>>27340128
If these were real why wouldn't they leak the mid evos with them? Wouldn't it be just as easy if not easier? Too fake for me.

>>27341182
>Chespin is a rock-type guys!!!!!
>torchick/piplup is a flying-type! See, everything else that gets Peck is flying-type!

>>27340128
>popbro
cancer, popplio isn't a bro he's shit and it he ends up with that final evolution he'd be even more shit

>>27341182
People call patterns made up because there's absolutely no reason GF can't just shit on the pattern any time they want. Instead people love forcing shit like the zodiac theory(which doesn't even work) just because they haven't been outright debunked(which they actually have, but delusion is a strong thing).

More I think about it the more likely circus themed starters seem

>last starters had a loose theme of knight thief wizard
>Litten could be a cannon like they use for shooting at/out performers
>Popplio is obvious, seals do circusy tricks and it already has juggling going for it
>Rowlet could either be ringleader going off the bowtie and general look or a knife thrower since it shoots leaves

Not saying this is true and definitely not agreeing with the shitty leaks, but I can see what inspired them and theres a logic to it

>>27341208
>Chespin line isn't round, it can't roll at all guys!
>Torchic/Piplup don't have beaks guys! See, everything that gets Peck doesn't have a beak!

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>>27341182
Checked other seal like pokemon

>>27341208
> Chespin rolls
> They have beaks
> Popplio is cute and will be feminine

>>27341231
disarming voice is a gen 6 move

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>>27341198
>babe
Uh oh, it's getting really desperate.

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>>27341244

>>27341223
>loose theme of knight thief wizard
>loose
They were the least subtly themed team compared to previous starters.

>>27341244
There are non gen 6 pokemon that learn it too

>>27341244
What is your point? Gardevoir is a gen 3 pokemon.

>>27340128
And Chespin learns Rollout.
Yer point?

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>>27341255
Was I desperate when I said it in the others posts too? Or when I said darling in the other post? /vp/ isn't a hivemind honey and we all speak different ways here.

>>27341270
lol

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>>27341281
that pokemon is so shitty i forgot its name lol, awful design

>>27341182
If seel was made after disarming voice this would mean something

Patterns are also made up so this is just stupid, doubly so because it's a pattern based on one move that is opposite to what occurs for most other moves

>>27341281
>honey
lel it doesn't stop

literally walking into the very accusation of playing for 0.1 hours and posting on 4chan instead

>>27341291
It's Aromatisse.
And yeah, it's probably the ugliest Pokémon out there. Worst Kalosmon easily.

>>27341223
Seems like they all have at least a couple things going for them as far as a circus theme is concerned
>Popplio is a clown, acrobat and of course the performing seal/seal ion
>Litten is the lion/big cat jumping through flaming hoops and can also sort of be the canon itself what with the flammable hairballs
>Rowlet is the ring leader because of the bowtie and the knife thrower
I feel like there's way too much there for it to not be the case, and GF doesn't start a theme for a starter and drop it for something completely different upon evolution.

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>>27341281
Quit avatarfagging you cunt

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>>27341291
You are entitled to your wrong opinion anon.

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Mfw Entermaid gets debunked but Popplio still becomes Water/Fairy

>>27341216
GF can absolutely shit on patterns all they want if they want to, but how often do they shit on patterns vs how often do they continue with them?

Saying that popplio being water/fairy and/or girly is undisputably real is dumb and unexcusable, but from what we've learned about GF's choices and actions in the past, it's much more likely to be that way than any other.

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>>27341327
>mfw heel tiger is debunked but litten still becomes fire/fighting

>>27341314
Holy fuck forgot flaming rings and performing big cats, weird feeling both validated and retarded simultaneously

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>>27341298
I'm also playing on my 3DS at the same time just as I said before babe.

>>27341297
>doubly so because it's a pattern based on one move that is opposite to what occurs for most other moves
What do you mean with this? Rollout/Peck/Crunch/etc. all have patterns that work just the same way.

> No stranger anon to call you pet names babe, honey, or darling

why even live

>>27341323
Gno :^)

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>>27341348
>>27341326
>>27341281
>>27341198
>>27341102
>>27340939

>>27341236
And popplio has vocal chords

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>>27341387
Almost all Pokemon have vocal cords.

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>>27340724

You seem to have this misconception that everyone that likes Poppmaid just wants to fap to it. Says more about you than anyone else, really.

>>27340825
Shit taste confirmed.

Anyone that likes these designs over the ones in the OP can fuck right back to plebbit.

No one gives a shit about your ugly meme clown

>>27340819
>if i call you a shitposter it invalidates what you are saying!

nice try, but no

>>27341447
No argument at all.
Fake apologists are getting desperate.

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>>27341447

>>27341399
Yep so add cute and by your logic it can have disarming voice regardless of typing
Like Pichu

>>27341408
This. Not everyone is a furfag. I like Sirens (in mythology) and the style that Poppmaid/Entermaid follow.

>>27340144
exactly, no mid evos, shitty designs.

>>27341199
>muh stats
>meaning anything

>>27341135
He looks like a villain because he's a "heel" wrestler. He is meant to look like a villain on purpose which confirms dark typing.

>>27341472
>muh moves
>meaning anything

>>27341476
I don't think that was his point

>>27341469
Since when does GF leak the entire evolutionary line at once? The last few generations we've had some evos leaked for the starters, but never both the mid and final evos.

>>27341496
>GF
>leak

>>27341472
Stats are actually a pretty good indication of what the design of it's evolutions will look like, for the most part

>>27341482
Probably not. I'm just saying that it's scary how deep these go even if they're fake. I don't want them to be real either because rowlet was cool until they added glasses and shit.

>>27341460

No one is going to waste their time trying to change your worthless opinion

>>27341496
>implying GF decides what gets leaked

>>27341496
GF doesn't intentionally leak anything

>>27341522
You're defending fakes regardless.
You have no room to talk about other people's opinions.

>>27341510
Not... really. It might work like 70% of the time or something but yeah.

>>27341480

pulling arguments out of thin air, I see.

>>27341538
>70%
Then it already works more than any kind of rationalisation people have to use to believe the ones in the OP are real.

>>27340825
>Balliofags still mad about their dumb fakemon

>>27341545
?

>>27341514
If you look at starter evolutions, the ones that start out the fastest usually get the the lightweight evolution. In the case of the Alola starters, Litten is the fastest. But Rowlet is the one that evolves into a lightweight ninja-archer-owl, which seems odd.

>>27341270
Miltank learns Rollout. This does not apply to fairy type moves being learned through level up. Most of them turns out to be psychic and/or fairy.

>>27341536

Where's the evidence that these are fake? Oh, wait... :^)

>>27341565
looking for patterns.. let the designs speak.

>>27341585
Where's the evidence that they're real?

>OH WAIT

>>27341585
>evidence
That's not how this works.
They're 100% fake until proven real.

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>>27341602
>They're 100% fake until proven real.

Nope.

>>27341565
Sometimes I wish they wouldn't show anything and we have no idea what pokemon we're getting until the day we start up the game.
Life with the internet kinda fucks that up though.

>>27341587
I'm not looking for patterns, I'm referring to the relation between design and stats. GF may not emphasize this with all Pokemon, but I'd say they put the most thought into the starters and their evolutions.

>>27341585
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

They're neither real nor fake until the artist comes forward or TPC officially reveals them.

>>27341602
nope not how it works in pokemon fanbase. all are real until proven fake.

>>27341570
GF doesn't have a separate philosophy for individual moves, just because this one particular move is fairly consistent doesn't mean it always will be regardless of all the other bullshit movepools

>>27341585
>>27341607
Can you show me proof that I haven't fucked your mum? Until you can it is a fact that I have

>>27341565
Not him, but Litten being faster than other pokemon at level 5 has way too many variables and a too broad stat range to mean anything.
If we could see the actual stat numbers we would have something to go by, but at that low level there could be a one point difference or even a tie in speed thanks to natures or whatever.

Stat growths upon evolving are also different. Piplup has more hp than Mudkip, but Swampert has more hp than Empoleon.

>>27341619
nope fairy and psychic moves are more than often exclusive to their typings. name a pokemon that learns disarming voice that's not a psychic or fairy type.. probably less than 5.

>>27341650
I see where you're coming from but I disagree. Without even looking at Littens stats, you can tell from its design that it is most likely the fastest. Outspeeding the others in gameplay only proved the obvious.

>>27341663
7 non fairy typed pokémon learn it. 10 have the fairy type or dual type.

>>27341619
>>27341663
this isn't how it works. moves are handed out based on a pokemon's design (has a beak? peck! can curl up into a ball? rollout! has huge sharp claws? slash!). typing plays next to no role.

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>>27340128
Oh YASS!! They're so beautiful!!

>>27341663
Skitty
Swablu
Altaria
Milotic
Audino
Pichu
Whismur
Pansage
Pansear
Panpour

>>27341694

Not the same anom but he meant naturally.

>>27341694
Though the later 5 get it via egg moves, not leveling up as gameplay would suggest Popplio does.

>>27341715
Skitty
Swablu
Altaria
Milotic
Audino

5 exactly! So can you people fuck off now?

>>27340128
Nope those are fakes... See this here:https://youtu.be/nOcxsg22x1E

>>27341698
>Stamps
Easy to replicate
>Artstyle
Has been replicated
>Three Bs
Haha no
>The last 4
Don't count as evidence

>>27341552
That's not how it works

>>27341690
definitely backs up the theory that Popbro will evolve into a sirenfur based on what you said that moves are handed out to their designs. Why would they give disarming voice to a freakin' sealion? unless it evolves into a sirenfur that uses her beautiful voice to lure sailors in.

>>27341698
This is not how evidence works. This is dumb, and you are dumb for posting it.

>>27341743
and oh look all of them are cute and feminine. :D

>>27341789
Popplio is cute too, your point?

>>27341789
Swablu/altaria and audino gain Fairy typing after Mega evolving, thus they slapped random Fairy moves on them. Skitty and Milotic got it too for no real reason.
>cute and feminine!
Yes just like how things without hands do not learn Fire punch

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>>27341693
>Still Shilling

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>>27341803

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>>27341823
that's kind of how it works, yes

>>27340825
>ballio
>better than popmaid
Shit taste.

>>27341825
What is this meme?

>>27341859
Muscular Strongman Clown> Sweet Singing Siren

I'll take em both but still.

>>27341878
The degenerate duty.
also a donut.

>>27341803
it turns into a feminine pokemon duh! don't be dumb.

>>27341749

They're the exact same stamps, if they're fake, then the artist probably guessed correctly.

True.

Brains, Brawn, and Beauty is a good trio.

It's more so strange that the official artist hasn't come forward.

Any other site has more credibility.

There are more pictures in the images and no one knows why but they're being expressive and Masuda said they wanted to make them more expressive.

No one can debunk them without bias and shit and not saying "durr too feminine and people just want to fap to it"

>>27341913
I believe in patterns but I don't think this one is as strong as you think

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>>27341922
AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!!

>concept art shows various expressions of the evos.
This is before Masuda confirmed that they made the pokemon more expressive.

>>27341945
Why not baby? That is clearly part of the pattern.

>>27341837
I wasnt being sarcastic. Things have to be cute to use Disarming Voice.
Things have to have hands to use Fire Punch. its not a coincidence, they just gave it to a few cute things. And they slapped Fairy type on a ton of cute things.

>>27341922
>the exact same stamps shown in the Sun/moon reveal trailer
Gee, the artist is such a lucky guesser!

>>27341786

They're just theories. Stop being on edge.

If these are real the most important thing to ask is who leaked them?

>>27341975
Gamefreak did. Just like gen v. they want to create buzz and keep fans interested.

>>27341922
This is coming from a believerfag but jesus christ don't do this to yourself

- The stamps weren't "guessed", they were know about way before this leak surfaced and can be reproduced in MS paint in mere seconds. They don't mean anything other than that if these were fabricated the creator paid good attention.
- A good trio is an opinion, not evidence. An artist not coming forward is not evidence. The art *were* posted on /vp/ first.
- Masuda making an off hand comment about expressiveness and a sheet displaying expressions is not related. Something not being debunkable at this moment doesn't not imply it's 100% true.

There is no actual evidence supporting any of this to be true, there are only external factors that to a very minor extent support them. That is all.

>>27341922
You can replicate the stamps with photoshop.

Three Bs is not an evident theme in Litten Rowlet and Popplio. Circus is more likely.

The artist could still be waiting.

The credibility of a claimed leak is not determined by the site it was posted on.

Yes they're expressive, but that could easily be a coincidence.

It can be argued against without bias by referring to the stats of the actual starters.

>>27341636
>lol ur mum

>>27340144
Dubs confirm

>>27341975
The website Pokéjungle had leaked it first I beleive, though who they got it from is not really known. Some people, like Cresselia~~ on smogon says something about a competitive Honk Kong based trainer? Again, don't quote me on it.

>>27341964
The pattern has been around for only one generation. It's not firmly established.

>>27342009
two different leaks. tony the tiger was posted on /vp/. chinese leak were posted on a chinese forum and screencapped by a hong kong vgc player

>>27340975

closet furfag spotted.

>>27342029
Thus why I said don't quote me on it. I'll stand by Pokéjungle having leaked the Poppmaid/Entermaid though. I'm fairly certain that's where it originated and then spread around like wildfire place to place.

>>27341461
Is this Litten's final evo? I like it

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>>27340128
>I don't know about ya'll
>Screencap this ya'll
pokemon are not for niggers

>>27341992
>Three Bs is not an evident theme in Litten Rowlet and Popplio. Circus is more likely.
This is absurd. How the fuck were you supposed to guess the theme of Gen 6's starters were RPG classes or that Gen V was supposed to be kinds of royalty based on the first forms? Why are people so attached to this circus thing?

>>27341469

your point is?

>>27342075
>all people who say ya'll are niggers

I'm a racist white male from the south ya'll. Plus I'm redneck and we say ya'll too.

>>27340128
I honestly hate them all, and it's the first time it ever happened. I sure hope they are not real.

>>27342081
they're still in denial that these are fakes. Too attached to the circus theme that is stupid.

>>27342081
Litten is a fire tiger/cat. In the circus, tigers jump through flaming hoops.

Popplio is a seal, a popular animal, with obvious clown influence.

Rowlet has a bowtie... Yeah, that one doesn't really connect to the theme, except for maybe the ringmaster.

I'm not saying circus is the confirmed theme, but it certainly has more evidence than Brains Brawns Beauty.

>>27341987
>>27341992

I know they can be replicated but I'm saying that someone must have had a lucky guess or they paid attention to the truck concepts.

The three Bs is what the concepts seem to take after, hell, Rowlet is an owl, something known for wisdom. Its bow tie can also be the start of a hood.

But almost two months? The closest thing we have is DevilDman getting one of the images from a guy who gave a first name.

4chan has a lot of fake leaks so I guess that effects it.

Yeah, but it's TOO coincidental.

Don't stats change for starters? Rowlet has the same HP range as Piplup (apparently). Torchic substituted Sp. Attack for Attack, Piplup had more HP than Mudkip but their evos were vice versa.

>>27342129
I meant to say popular *circus animal when I referred to Popplio

>>27342118
OP, you're a faggot

>>27342096
>thinks Game Freak can do better if these are fake

top kek

>>27342081
see >>27341314
They're not 100% confirmed to be based on a circus, but don't act like there's no reason to believe they are. There's more there to support circus than there is to support 3B.

>>27342129
Yeah I've seen the fucking expressed justification a billion fucking times, why the fuck did you feel like reiterating it again would somehow make it make fucking sense? Do you think I'm a fucking idiot? The question was why the fuck do people think that's the case, especially the hoops you have to jump through to make Rowlet work, when the previous 2 gens with confirmed themes in the third forms weren't actually fucking established until at least the second form? The only one who even sort of implied it was Oshawott using its scalchop as a blade. Did Tepig look like it was going turn into fucking Lu Bu? What about Fennekin into a wizard?

Considering these pics get more traffic than ANY OTHER "evo" leaks for the past two months is beyond me. There must be something in there that some people are still missing. I'm more leaning to these being real.

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>>27342133
Popplio is extremely slow and has very high special stats.
Rowlet is very fast, and fat.
Litten is even faster.

Pic related is the best theorycrafting available based on what we know for a FACT, by seeing in-game stats

>>27340825
fire cat looking real good, don't like the later water evolutions. looks creepy

>>27342171
>ANY OTHER
Reddit

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>>27340871
>gardevoir is one of the most popular pokemon
>feminine pokemon are very popular in general (sylveon, diance, mew, braxien/delphox, ect)

>"BOYS WILL LITERALLY SHUT OFF THE GAME THE MOMENT ONE OF THEIR POKEMON LOOKS TOO GIRLY"

>>27342184
talking about here. i don't go on reddit for pokemon.

>>27342176
>That Rowlet stat spread
just
you actually made it worse than serperior

>>27342133
The thing is, confirming something and "not disproving" something are not the same thing.

If you tally things up, there are a lot of things that "don't disprove" the leaks, from stamps checking out to no artist coming out to Popplio learning Disarming Voice, but they do not in any way or shape confirm anything.

The only winning move is to remain skeptical and wait for more bits and pieces of info that blatantly either disprove or confirm them, which likely won't happen until middle evos are publicized.

>>27342176

We haven't seen Rowlet's stats and we know it's bulky but it can also have high speed and other things.

We know Litten is fast that's it.

>>27340128
I can at least address this...
>Popbro learn disarming voice during level up?
Why would Chespin learn Rollout during level up?
Why would Torchic learn Peck?
Why would Piplup learn Peck?
Why would Oshawott learn Fury Cutter?

Newsflash: Pokemon learn moves with typings that aren't their own.

>>27342185
gardevoir is my pokewaifu

>>27342201
OP is talking about design wise not typing wise.

>Chespin learns rollout because mid evo is a ball
>Birds learn peck because they have beaks
>Oshawott learns fury cutter because evo is a samurai

Same for Popbro. He learns Disarming Voice because final evo design is a siren which uses voice to lure sailors.

>>27342176
What is this based on? Is it based on the old theory that Rowlet has 65 base HP (which doesn't account for trailer mons having 31+100 IVs and EVs)? Does it account for us not knowing Popplio's nature in the e3 footage? Where are you pulling Litten's stats from?

>>27342133
3 B's has a lot less evidence then the circus theme.

And you can't forget that stats also connect to designs. All starters have appearances that correspond with certain aspects of their stats. Rowlet having high HP corresponds to Rowlet being round. Litten having high Speed corresponds to it being a slender cat.

>>27340128
Not fucking Grass/Steel or Grass/Poison

Give me those x4 everyday pls.

Damn, it seems like none of pop's "evos" look good.

This should have just been a random, out of the way, shitmon. Not a starter.

>>27342161
>previous two gens
So because they didn't have the themes hinted at in the first forms in the last two gens that means they can't do it this gen? They didn't always do themes for starters, I could easily have just said "there is no theme because previous gens didn't do it" during gen 4 or 5 or whichever started the themed starters trend.
>The question was why the fuck do people think that's the case
And he explained it by listing evidence that supports it, you moron.
>especially the hoops you have to jump through to make Rowlet work
He forgot to mention that Rowlet throws leaf blades, which could easily be a reference to knife throwers. The bowtie is like Popplio's nose; not evidence on its own, but holds more water when coupled with other things that are present.

>>27342201
It's also based on design as someone e above said some time back. Because they have beaks is why Piplup and Torching can learn it, Oshawott cuts with a shell, thus learning the move Fury CUTTER, and Chespin learns it because of what it's design. And 2nd evo design are. Quilladin is literally a ball. Rollout. Damn, to have Disarming Voice it would need to be either cute or feminine like all the other pokemon that can learn it.

>>27342223
Maybe because he's a Sea Lion and barking is their thing.

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>>27340128
ahaha these are fucking fake as fuck

>>27342197
Litten is faster than Rowlet. Their designs express that and so should their evolution lines.

>>27342187
Theyre talked about because Reddit posted them, so people think theyre fact and people from Reddit keep regurgitating it here.

At least 60% of /vp/ cross-boards with /r/Pokemon

>>27342192
Not my spreads. Also, its closer to a bad!Meganium. It could be way off, as Rowlett is the one we have the least info on statswise but, its generally accurate.

>>27342224
Completely guessing, anon. Based on what we've seen of it, its typing, etc.
Im not saying these are going to end up remotely close. Popplio's, however, I wouldnt be surprised if its all but dead on being that we have actual stat growth measurements between levels 5 and 8 for it.

>>27340128
>>27340622
So which are real? I like >>27340622's fire type but prefer >>27340128's water and grass types.

>>27342227

Owl's are known for wisdom.

Tigers are strong.

Sea Lions are cute.

I'll go die now.

>>27340128
I agree they are real, as Rowlet's eco IS a confirmed archer. ArROW+owlet = arowlet. It is shaped like an apple, which famous archer William Tell shot off his son's head. It shoots feathers. And William Tell shot that Apple on November 18th, the game's release date. No denying this

>>27342253
see >>27341182 and >>27341231

>>27342223
>>27342252
Exploud and the elemental monkies also get it. They aren't exactly feminine.

>>27342247
You can't fucking use something as "evidence" when we have absolutely 0 "evidence" like it before. Don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say they couldn't do it this gen, but the entire fucking point is that we have been given absolute zero reason to believe that they have when the only one is expressly circus related is Popplio, and the logic makes no god damn sense given the knowledge that these themes haven't been present in first forms previously on top of the fact that Popplio plays it straight while the other two you have to do some mental gymnastics to make it make sense. I don't give a shit if the theme "makes more sense" than whatever theme these fakes have, that isn't the motherfucking point. There is no reason for the circus theme to have any fucking weight given to it period.

>>27342290

Not through level up.

>>27342201
But these moves all make thematic sense. It's not so much the fairy typing of the move, but that it IS a magical voice move. A siren move, not a circus move.

>>27342235

Poppmaid does look good. Literally the only people who hate it are triggered by feminine things.

>>27342259
I didn't say it was like Serperior's stat spread, just that you managed to make it even worse than his

>>27342261
Again, circus is more evident. And you're reaching with Popplio.

>>27342290
And again based on their concept design they can learn this (not through level up tho)

>>27342290
Notice the words cute as well before responding. The only time exploud can have it is when it is kept on a Whismur that was bred to have it as an egg move. What is whismur? Cute. Exactly.

>>27342269
>Seal
>Dugong
>Walrus
>Sea Lion
These are not rhe same thing. Popplio is the first and only actiual Sea Lion.

>>27342319
>And you're reaching with Popplio.
I'd sooner believe they wanted popplio to be cute sooner than rowlet is supposed to be a ring master or a knife thrower or whatever the fuck people are saying it is now to make it fit the circus shit people have pulled out of their ass.

>>27342295
>getting THIS worked up over it

>>27342309
No, I'm a filthy pokefucker and I hate the thing.

>>27342338
Dewgong is a not a dugong you imbecile, and Walrein's line was previously a sea lion before turning into a walrus

>>27342350

I don't believe you

Wait guts what if the concepts ARE circus themed? Think about it.

Litten is a tiger, in concept art, it's shown shooting RINGS OF FIRE.

Popplio is an entertainer.

Rowlet's is a bit harder to figure out but archers are common at circus's.

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>>27342343
So you'd sooner believe Popplio is supposed to be a beautiful mermaid than a clown? Which it is clearly based on?

>>27342368
That isn't what I said, was it? I don't think I said that. Can you quote me where I said that so I can see just how wrong I was?

>>27342368
The siren duh. Since the other evo leak is disproven by actual artist already. The only legitimate pic that can be analyzed is the one OP posted.

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>>27342295
It may not be concrete evidence, but it's something that actually hints at it.
>these themes haven't been present in first forms previously
Stop bringing this up, It's literally just "muh patterns."
>mental gymnastics
Not really. They're pretty easy connections to make. Like I said, some of the "evidence" doesn't hold well on their own, but together they do. Rowlet has a bowtie AND throws blades, but somehow it's completely unrelated to circuses of any kind where there's bowtie wearing ring leaders and knife throwers. I think I can give you Litten here, but it's still pretty easy to make the connection between a lion jumping through flaming hoops and a fire cat. Popplio is pretty blatant and I honestly don't see how anyone can deny it.

Also, pic related is you right now. Calm the fuck down, dude.

>>27342357
Believe what you want. I know what my dick responds to, and it's giving me a no for this.
My usual go to's are mismagius and milotic.

>>27342382
That's not what you said, but it's what I felt was implied.

>>27342368
Yeah Popplio does look like he had that goofy clownish personality

>>27342384
I'm not defending Ballio, I know it's fake. I'm saying Popplio is more likely to evolve into a clown, which it is clearly based on, than a mermaid.

And for all intensive purposes, the OP picture should be considered fake until proven otherwise.

>>27342394
There is no fucking hints. YOU are being the fucking patternfag seeing connections between things that have none. You people are seeing shit that is not there. I'm saying we have no fucking reason to believe there are hints. What reason do I have to think any of them besides Popplio, who was actively presented as a sea lion with showmanship, are related to the circus? Reducing what I said to "M-M-MUH PATTERNS" is such a fucking shit argument and that you have to do that is telling, only made more apparent by ending with YOU MAD????

>>27342343
>Rowlet throws feathers like knives
>Knife throwing evo is an asspull

>>27342354
Leave it to me to be retarded. Spheal, and Sealeo are all seals, which are not Seal Lions. But the Seel line are indeed sea lion pokemon.

>>27342401
Oh, then your post just makes no fucking sense and is totally irrelevant then.

>>27342446
it's not a mermaid, it's a siren... also it's opposite. treat everything real until proven false

>>27342465
>treat everything real until proven false
That's fucking retarded

>>27342465
Sirens and mermaids are the same thing. And that logic is retarded.

>>27342465
>I can't into burden of proof
Leaks bring out the absolute worst of this board.

COLD HARD STATS:

>Rowlet:
>HP: 52-61
Assuming 31 IVs and 100 EVs, as has consistently been used in old trailers showing off player-vs-player battles.

>Popplio:
>HP: 47-68
>ATT: 22-43 (16-37) (35-56)
>DEF: 47-68 (41-62) (60-81)
>SPA: 47-68 (41-62) (60-81)
>SPD: 47-68 (41-62) (60-81)
>SPE: 29-49 (22-43) (41-62)
Based on the e3 footage and assuming 0 EVs (basically negligible at that early in the game) and the full 0-31 IV range.
The first parenthesis is with a beneficial (+) nature, the second with a hindering (-) nature. We do not know which nature Popplio had in the e3 footage.

As for Litten, we don't know anything aside from that it attacked earlier than both Rowlet and Popplio in the Battle Royal trailer, which means its speed could be higher than or tied with them. We also do not know what nature it had.

>>27342465
>treat everything real until proven false
What the fuck?

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You gotta sit down and appreciate the amount of autism that is born during times like these. I love these threads.

Litten is either based on a circus cannon or on the tiger/hoop of fire trope. Personally, my money is on Litten's design following a circus cannon--First because tail is made to look like a wick or a fuse. Second his name is literally Lit Kitten, referencing the first stage in the process of firing the circus cannon, lighting the fuse or wick. The wrestler is a ridiculous break with this apparent design direction and is completely unfounded.

Rowlet is pretty clearly going to be based on a sideshow knife-thrower. Knife-throwers are usually presented as 'gentlemanly' types; well-dressed, and charismatic. Rowlet can be seen using his feathers as thrown projectiles in the concept art as well, which enforces this idea. The archer has nothing to do with the circus theme, and his thrown projectile being exaggerated into a bow/arrow is completely unfounded.

Popplio is quite obviously based on a performing seal, and is informed by clown tropes. Popplio is the only one who doesnt seem to have a clear developmental progression, but it stands to reason that his evolution line will preserve the tropes of a performing seal and circus clown affects. The mermaid quite simply eschews both the clown direction and the performance/circus direction, becoming a very odd siren/fairy mashup that has nothing to do with Popplio's design philosophy. The mermaid is completely unfounded.

Not to mention, the concept art on all of these is like, elementary school-child tier. These are fake. These are so fake it hurts, and all the apologetics for these fakes on /vp/ only serves to show how big the reddit crossposting audience actually is.

There's no "evidence" proving that they're real or fake you autistic fucks. The people saying they're 100% fake are worse than the ones who want them to be real. Anyone who believes they're 100% real with 0 evidence should be shot
Popplio learns disarming voice, this is a fact, and the only pokemon that learn it through lvl up are feminine or cute designs.
"B-but seals bwark!" Why the fuck doesn't Seel or Spheal learn it then? Do all the pokemon that learn it beark too?
"I-it's a new move" Old Pokemon can learn it, if being a seal is a valid reason to learn it, then the old seal mons would be able to do it
This doesn't imply that Popplio is a Fairy, just that the evolution could be feminine. The "leaked" evolution has no confirmed typing either.

On the other hand, we know the base stats of the first evos, and they don't fit at all. I'm having a hard time believing that they would change so much after evolving. But I won't ignore the coincidences of these leaks, and if I didn't know their base stats, I would find them more believable.

tl;dr
Stop arguing about this stupid shit, either you like them or you don't, you don't know if they're real or fake yet. The OP was obviosuly baiting, and it worked.