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Which gen had the worst designs?

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I'm gonna say black/white
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>>27331200
X/Y
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Definitely Gen3
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>>27331200
Probably gen and also don't forget /vp/ rule 4
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>>27331200
Sun/Moon

Bunch of overdesigned shits from what we have seen so far. Followed by X/Y. Other than starters B/W had great designs mostly.
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BW was the only gen along DPt that didn't bore me to death after 100h.
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Gee I dunno
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Gen III and from the looks of it Gen VII
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>>27331200
Gen VII the epitome of laziness and good concepts wasted in shitty designs
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In Gen 5 there are more than enough new Pokemon to make a team of 6 you really like, even if half the dex is junk.

Gen 2 is hard to make a team of 6 brand new Pokemon you like, particularly if you exclude new evolutions of Gen 1 Pokemon. Gen 4 is also difficult to ignore new evolutions.

I'd pick Gen 2 as my most disliked but that's only because it has my personal least amount of favourites
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No Gen has bad designs, but if I have to pick it's gonna be Gen 2. Not because of any bad designs, but because it was full of single stages and babies.
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Gen 6.
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Gen 5
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Gen 4 - 6
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>>27331200
Gen 7 is looking to take the torch from Gen 5 at the moment.
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>>27331305
>>27331232

>gen 3

Has to be bait
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2, I love 5 dearly
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Black and White. 5th gen had some of the worst designs but it also had some of the best designs in the entire franchise. A very mixed bag
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>>27331381
>No Gen has bad designs

Unless it improves this is 0/10 so far.
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Gen III
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>people will defend this
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>>27331606
What's wrong with it?
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>>27331606
What's wrong with it?
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Gen 1
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>>27331709
>>27331791
What is right/evenfuckingdecent about it?
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>>27331200
It's always gen 4.
Most designs were a clusterfuck of zigzags that made no sense at all and they were an offense to the eyes.

Gen 1 is a close second because the designs are so horribly bland and uninteresting.
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>>27331606
One of my favorites from gen 5, and I hate most of that gen's designs.
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>>27331838
How its markings are a hi-vis jacket.

Also what's wrong with it?
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>>27331555
>Hoennshitter can't possibly believe people have different views than him
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>>27331200
i think you mean best.
anyways, gen 1.
>literal fucking bird
>literal fucking bird 2: electric boogaloo
>sludge
>sludge 2
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>>27331555
>thinking designs in gen III were anything decent
I'm sorry I hurt your fragile feelings Hoennchan pls forgive me ;_;
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>>27331840
Agreed.
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>>27331929
Nah, he's right.
Gen 3 is the balance between the horrendous designs of gen 4 and the dull as fuck gen 1 and 2.
Gen 5 and 6 are runner ups though as they learned their mistake with gen 4.
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Sun/Moon, for now
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>>27331972
)':
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>>27331200
X and Y. No contest.
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>>27332199
This isn't a best design thread anon.
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>>27332224
I know. It's a worst designed thread. That's why I chose X and Y. The generation with the worst designed pokemon.
Because 80% of them are hideous and Megas where a mistake.
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>>27331200
I agree.
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Gen II/IV
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>>27332267
Interesting, I don't think you know what these words mean anon.
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>>27332311
Oh I'm quite sure I do anon.
A cool panda and lucha bird don't make up for everything else.
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Gen 7 is shaping up to be by far the worst. It definitely has the worst starters.
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Gen 1 or 4. 1 Because those designs are so obviously out of place compared to any other gen and it bugs the shit out of me, and 4 because it has some of the worst originals as well as extremely tryhard evo's for older Pokemon
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>>27331200
Gen 1 BY FAR. Sure, the starters are great and Pikachu, Mew, Ninetales and Arcanine are GOAT, but with shit like Magneton, Voltorb, Electrode, Grimer, Muk, Diglett, Dugtrio, Krabby, Mr. Mime, Jynx and so on, it simply cannot be rated as anything but the objectively worst generation in the franchise. Gen 5 had like 10 objectively bad designs, but Gen 1 has 20+.
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>>27332394
>objectivity
Anon please. You're an adult.
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Gen I
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>>27332418
Eh, they are the worst designs of the whole series to be honest.
I mean, Magnemite is just an ball bearing with magnets and a screw attached that evolves into the same thing multiplied by 3.

Voltorb was a failed attempt at a mimic that didn't grasp the central concept of a mimic which is mimicking and Electrode was just a bigger version

Grimer was just a slime, that's it and Muk was the bigger version.

Diglett was supposed to be a mole of some sort but looks like some kind of odd dildo and it's evolution isn't so much an evolution as it is three of them sticking together which unlike Magnemite doesn't even have the Magnetic field excuse.

Krabby and Kingler are just boiled crabs that survived.
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>>27331200
3 had the worst.
5 was better than average.
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>>27332394
>I literally let /vp/ dictate my opinions 100%: The Post
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>>27331200
all of them have good and bad desings so guess all of them
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>>27331200
Hey OP want to hear a joke?
a ice cream and a garbage Pokemon
Gen 1 designs are the best.
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>>27331200
Inavia dex
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>>27332606
but why are the ice crean pokemon bad.
and why hate the ground pollution pokemon while loving the water pollution and air pollution pokemon
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>27332606
You don't even deserve a (You).
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>>27331200
4 by a fucking mile. This board is swarmed with people that started out with that one, though, so none of them will admit it.
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For starters, either gen 5 or 6.
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>>27331871
It looks like shit.
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>>27332394
>hating muk

That's my fav Pokemon tho
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>>27331200
4
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1, 3, and 5 had the weakest designs. 3 had the most that irked me.
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>>27331200
They all have their own flaws to make them arguably bad imo. Gen 1 had mostly simple designs. Gen 2 and 4 were lacking in numbers so each bad one stuck out like a sore thumb. Gen 3 was water types. Gen 5 only consists of Garbador, Vanillux, and the starters so it is shit in the minds of genwunners. Gen 6 lacked anything memorable.
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>>27332394
>le contrarian meme
Cringe.
It doesn't hold up against 2 or 5 IMO, but 1 is still good.
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>>27332753
did you just call fucking FERALIGATOR edgy?

holy fuck i need to get off this site im done
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>>27332871
>Contrarian
You do realize that people can recover from nostalgia sickness right?
Just look at them, they're barely monsters.
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>>27332893
Anything remotely cool or ferocious looking is edgy and tryhard. If you don't realize this, maybe you don't belong here.
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>>27332692
The ice cream and the garbage Pokemon shows that Game Freak ran out of ideas. They can never outclass the designs in Gen 1.
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>>27331200
Gen 4
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>>27332926
>The ice cream and the garbage Pokemon shows that Game Freak ran out of ideas
In that case GF never had any ideas to begin with because there are much less inspired Pokemon in the series.
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>>27331200
easily gen5. so many garbage designs
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>>27332893
Looks like you missed the identifying edgy Pokemon 101 meme.

>Is it based on a carnivorous animal?
>Does it have sharp teeth?
>Bonus points if Dark type.

If it has at least two of these traits, it's an edgy Pokemon.
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>>27332958
that skeleton looks dope though
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>>27331200
gen4+
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>>27332960
No to mention "running out" would mean every single mon afterwards would logically be even worse.
But you're replying to weak bait anyway. There are considerably more retards riding the GO craze to shitpost than actual genwunners in this board.
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>>27332958
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>>27332753
>torterra
>boring
it's a fucking world turtle what is boring about that
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>>27331273
>le overdesigned maymay
>one of them is a literal box with eyes

>>27331200
B/W, yes. The starters are all ass, the elemental monkeys suck, so does the pink thing with fucking flowers on it and especially the fucking genies. Fuck Gen 5.
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>>27332753
>Typhlosion is edgy
Explain
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>sunflora and it's pre-evo
>stantler
>we put a face on this
>the 26 formes of unown
>girafarig
>babies
>canned beta monsters: the gen

I caught the sunflora baby in the bug catching contest and was pissed.

At least it had only 100 mons so there's less waste and unnecessary evolutions like gen 5, where everyone had two evolutions just to take up dex space.
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>>27332753
>World Turtle = Boring
>Big Turtle with canons = Perfect
Yeah sure
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>>27331200
Gen 4. Mostly consisted of lazily designed evos for existing pokemon and a complete lack of originality on the new ones.

Gen 5 had the next best designs of any gen after gen 2, what is wrong with you
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>>27333123
>gen 2
>good
What's wrong with YOU?
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>>27333123
>Gen 5 had the best design
>Archeops, Zorua, the Cubchoo line, Druddigon, Bouffalant, and every single Legendary are somehow seen as not fucking garbage
>mfw
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>>27333210
>Any of those except Druddigon
>garbage
I bet you think Gen 4 is good don't you.
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>>27331200
Gen 5 is the worst offender.
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>>27333123
>gen 2
>good
>gen 4
>bad
but I agree on gen5, it's bretty gud.
Porygon-Z is the best, how could you insult near-perfection
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>>27333210
>not taking a jab at Garbrodor
this is a guy who knows what hes talking about
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>>27331200
About half of all Pokemon have realtivley shitty designs so you can go from there
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>>27333210
>Fucking garbage
>Not listing Oshawatt line
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>>27333123
Several of the gen 4 crossgen evos are among my favourites and it baffles me that I'm supposed to hate them for some reason. And no, gen 4 wasn't my first gen before that one fag pipes up trying to force his meme.
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>>27331200
everything from gen 4+
I'll point out the worst ones:
>conbee - a fucking honeycomb
>ambipom - it can now jack off with two hands
>bronzgong - it's a bell
>drapion - shitty design
>magnezone - magneton was enough
>almost all previous gens' evolutions
>probopass - it grew a moustache
>watchog
>woobat/swoobat
>krookodile - lame name + sunglasses
>cofagrigus
>trubbish/gardbodor
>gothorita/gothitelle
>vanilluxe
>klink & co
>chandelure
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>>27333210
Archeops grew on me, and vanilla Kyurem is great IMO but I agree with the rest.
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>>27333340
>it baffles me that I'm supposed to hate them for some reason.
You can like them but it's not that hard to figure out.
>random lines
>going away from the design aspects of the originals
>odd proportions
And so on.
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>>27333210
>Archeops is shit because of its dumb 3d model

Don't post a nigger mon with that attitude
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>>27333369
Not that guy but the 3D model literally redeemed Archeops you dumb Unovabortion cunt.
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Gen 5 by far. The legendaries are especially bad, they all look like they have cerebral palsy or some other muscular handicap. The starters where also absolute shit.

The only good looking pokemons in gen 5 are:
>Scolipede
>Krokodile
>Carracosta
>Archeops
>Reuniclus
>Electross
>Chandelure
>Haxorus
>Volcarona

That's it, 9 pokemon out of 150 look good. Worst gen by far, followed by gens 2 unremarkable designs.

The best is Gen 4, fantastic starters and legendaries (the box trio is kinda iffy though, not great or terrible just odd). The only bad designs in this gen are:
>Kriketune
>Shellos
>Gastrodon
>Tangrowth
>Rhyperior
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>>27333363
>>random lines
>>odd proportions
This isn't at all a particular problem withe the crossgen evos anymore than it is with later Pokemon in general.
>>going away from the design aspects of the originals
I mean, I guess certain ones like Magnezone and Honchkrow changed a lot either visually or thematically but honestly to me they look a lot better. As far as I'm concerned the only potentially shitty Sinnoh crossgen evo was Rhyperior. The others range from good to GOAT and are a step above the majority of Pokemon designs.
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There's not a single pokemon in gen 6 I even come close to liking. Most of them actually hurt to look at. 4 is probably second worst. I think 3 is the best.
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>>27332606
A slime and a ball pokemon.
What was that about gen 1?
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>>27333409
>no Darmanitan, Hydreigon, Zekrom, Kyurem and White Kyurem, Golurk, Excadrill, Escavalier, Lilligant, Bisharp, Garbodor, Accelgor for gen 5

>No Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Phione, Bibarel, Drifblim, Drapion, Lickilicky, Magmortar, Happiny, Mamoswine, Bronzong, Togekiss, Ambipom, Mantyke, Wormadam, Torterra, Probopass and Dusknoir for Gen 4
Gen 4 had the highest percentage of shit pokemon.
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Gen 4 was easily the worst. All it had going for it was a bunch of cross-gen evolutions, and even a handful of those were ass.
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>>27332753
>pokemon can't ever be humanoid
There's literally an egg group for that you retard.
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>>27333316
garbador is awesome.
it doesn't deserve the hate it gets
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>>27333477
i liked fennekin just not any of his evos

but ya, this list is awful http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon.shtml
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>>27333500
Not that guy but that's a clusterfuck of atrocious taste famalam.
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>>27331962
At least they served a purpose to be a bird or a pile of sludge, meanwhile there's a fucking ice cream cone out of nowhere.

>>27331200
The worst Pokemon designs come from B/W, but had the best gameplay.
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>>27333409
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>>27333579
>started the trend of meme abilities that now dominates the game
>best gameplay
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>>27333593
I actually agree with Gen 5's list(though it's missing out Leavanny and a few handful I can't remember), but Gastrodon was top tier.
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Every gen had their fair share of good designs, but gen 6 probably had the least (and not just because there were so few pokes).

These are the only designs I can consider good from gen 6 (not counting their prevos). And even then, I'm really grasping at straws because shit like Aegislash are just "acceptable" at best.
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>>27333463
>This isn't at all a particular problem withe the crossgen evos anymore than it is with later Pokemon in general.

Not really, If you compare gen 3, 4 and 5 Pokemon you can really tell that they really went overboard with the lines and such to the point where the designs became too busy or cluttered. For example Electivire, Lickilicky, Magmortar and Rhyperior. Some just made no sense like Ambipom where the hands lose dexterity upon evolution.
I think the only design as of the last two gens that has excessive zig zags is Sigiliyph and even then it plays into the design.
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>>27333606
I don't know man, to each to their own, I find any Pokemon game besides X/Y to be enjoyable.
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>>27333571
I know right?
How someone could like the majority of Gen 4 designs while hating the majority of Gen 5 quite frankly disgusts me.
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>>27333629
I don't even particularly like Lickilicky but this is literally the opposite of "busy" or "cluttered", even with the lines. I don't really see how any of those guys are cluttered, they've all got simple patterns and morphology. Rhyperior maybe, but I've already said he's kind of shitty. The art for Ambipom is kind of shitty but the gen 6 models give a much better idea of what they were going for with his tail hands since it actually looks like it can grab stuff now. Overall it's a straight upgrade from Aipom.
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>>27331200
gen 7
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>>27331555
>III didn't have bad designs
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>>27333836
What the FUCK is wrong with Shiftry, Surskit or Dustox? I mean, the others are forgettable at worst but mostly albeit not offensively terrible, but those guys are great.
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>>27333836
not the same anon but all generations have bad desings
>shiftry
>bad
its really cool to have a tengu pokemon
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>>27333900
Forget "but mostly", I changed my wording mid sentence and didn't get rid of the remnants.
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>>27333900
>>27333903
>more butthurt gen III fags
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>>27333923
u sure trololold me xD
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Red/Blue/Yellow for sure.

So much underdesigned boring garbage among a few gems like Scyther, Gyarados, and Zapdos
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that would be 4
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>>27333836
Wtf? Shiftry and Huntail are GOAT. The rest aren't even bad, just kind of boring.
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>>27331200
Gen 4. I can deal with Gen 5 and 6, gen 4 is just fucking stupid
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>>27333836
>>27333923
>Think Shiftry, Dustox, Volbeat, and Huntail are bad designs
>Get called out on not knowing what is bad
>Get butthurt and call people defending good designed mons gen III fags
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>>27333923
i said that all generations have bad desings in then and that includes gen 3 and gen 3 is not even my favorite favorite is a tie between gen V, IV and II
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>>27332353
Chikorita is so bad despite the greatness that is Totodile Gen 2 has by average, the worst starters.
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>>27333939
>underdesigned
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>>27334036
The designs are so boring and uninspired, they don't feel like "monsters" like they're supposed to be.
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>>27333836
>Beautifly
>Bad

Also surskit isn't bad either.
The rest I sort of agree, I wouldn't say they are bad but they are kinda meh
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>>27334079
If you had a Pidgeot or a Fearow flying towards you, you'd shit yourself. They're far more fearsome or monstrous than, say, Unfezant, or Swanna. You can't even accuse me of cherrypicking here because I'm picking the ultimate "My mom's x" Pokemon that you fags love memeing about.
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>>27331200
unova was trash
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>>27333836
>Barboach
>Surskit
>bad
i'll fukkin fite u
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>>27331200
Everything that wasn't gen 1 and 2
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>>27334137
They look like scary birds, but not monsters.

They don't look like something that couldn't be dealt with, using firearms like say a Scizor,

Scizor looks like a monster.

IF something looks like a gun could kill it, it doesn't look like a monster.
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>>27334188
So you're unironically stating that all Pokemon should be immune to fucking bullets?
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>>27334184
while i dissagree with you i'll want to see your reasoning for that
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In all objective honesty, Gen 5 had a decent set of mons. Did it have the weirdest and dumbest looking Pokemon in the series? Sure, I can admit that. But as far as I see it the good stuff way outweighs the bad shit. Said bad shit is just so noticeable kids can't help but associate the majority of the dex with those few bad eggs.
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>>27334212
Yes.
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>>27334223
All the Pokemons after gen 2 was over convoluted designed shit
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6

3 and 5 had some shitty ones but they at least had the balls to put a ton of new ones in

6 barely added anything and most of them sucked
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>>27334224
>In all objective honesty
Stopped reading there tbqh.
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>>27334224
i still can't understand how people dislike gen 5 so much
it may be because i barely dislike any pokemons from every gen, but i really like almost all of gen 5 designs
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>>27334224
>objective
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>>27334284
Are you the same assblasted gen 3 fag?
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>>27334365
What?
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>>27334352
Genwunners, thats how.
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>>27334256
you are still vague in your complaint, pokemon desing aren't that complex in general not even the new gen, its only more complex compared to gen 1 which is the simplest desings, while i don't mean that simple is bad, you don't need to say complexity is bad either.
i guess i'm just acustumed to complex desing because of shin megami tensei
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>>27331200
6<5<1<4<2<3

6 had shit fairy designs and some megas were awful. Also having more fairies after 1 gen than ghosts after 6 gens is simply dissapointing. the only good thing is that there are only 70 of them.

5 was just plain bad, but didn't shit on older mons, denying them a real evolution nor had pink fluffy balls for pkm as 6 did. The first gen I haven't played, because of the designs

In addition I don't like any ghost type pkm from the last two gens, inanimate objects do not make good ghost pkm

1 was great (as the last three), but had some really bad designs, especially making the evolution only bigger or adding multiple heads, therefore only no. 4 on my list

4 was kinda nostalgic, I liked most evolutions and the original pkm were fine as well, a few were terrible though.

2 introduced 2 new types, evolutions for the 1. gen and their designs are among the best I've seen

3 is the best of them imo, so many good pkm designs, even without a nostalgia effect. Really don't know why it's hated by the majority of people

If I had to to gen 7 somewhere in there, I'm guessing it'd be no. 2 or 3, depending on the other pkm, but so far it looks great!
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>>27332353
gen 7 looks awesome, except for the starters, but we don't know their evolutions yet
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>>27332692
ice cream sucks as a pkm design, because it's fucking ice cream. the garbage thing has an awful face imo, so I dislike it. Also a ripped trash bag isn't helping it either.

I like the purple one from gen III though I don't know its english name. German is Schluckwech iirc
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>>27334184
>>27334256
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>>27332753
man, I love humanoid pkm. Fighting is among my favorite types because of that alone.
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>>27334622
Swalot.
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>>27334224
Just for you, I squared every mon from gen V that I really like. 9 pkm aren't nearly enough for me to call black/white decent
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>>27334719
So because you don't really like a mon it is immediately less then decent?
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>>27334373
2 or so, years ago, /vp/ roasted and doxxed a kid that didn't like Gen 3.
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>>27334753
It's just easier than to colour the rest red
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>>27334373
>>27334785
I have a picture too.
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>>27334719
holy shit, you have shit fucking taste
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>>27334753
>say it's good
>"oh i agree with you so that's ok"
>say it's bad
>"FUCK OFF WITH UR OPINYUNS BUDDY"
Suck my dick buddy, he can post what he likes.
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>>27334804
epic raid /b/ro.
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>>27334828
Fuck off Braden
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>>27334812
Someone is triggered
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I realized i dont like gen 3
There are based designs in gen 3 but overall is the worst generation for me
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>>27332756
Cool
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>>27334540
>inanimate objects do not make good ghost Pokemon
How the fuck do you think not? It's a common act for ghosts to manipulate and possess mundane objects.
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>>27332771
I don't understand the hate for grimer/muk whatsoever.
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>>27334719
Well that's just you. I can name dozens of Gen V Pokemon I like solely based on design/concept.
And you just have shit taste in general
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Gen 1 and I've been to the GB era, just so you know
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When you have a pokedex of over 151 no shit your going to nitpick a lot of designs

But Gen 1 has nostalgia glass
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>>27335196
It's fine as a concept for one (or even a few) pkm, like rotom, they shouldn't make every piece of furniture a fucking ghost though
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>>27331200
The thing about Pokemon designs to me is that as the generations go, they've tweeked and improved on the general style of the Pokemon themselves.

I can't help but feel that the 'worst designs' would honestly be the Gen I Pokemon, but this doesn't mean that the designs are bad at all. The only problem is that they're a product of the technology capabilities of the time. They're memorable because they are the first and original Pokemon.

As technology has advanced, we've been able to have Pokemon that are more complex and varied. The artists themselves have had time to practice and mess around with the design possibilities. You can easily see this as the generations go.

From Gen I's take on giving many Pokemon more of a 'realistic' feel and old '90's anime style', to Gen VII's cartoony and stylistic interpretation. It's clear the artists have had more and more fun with the designs.

I can only say that designs have improved since Gen I. Granted, style is rather subjective, so it varies from person to person. I doubt I'll ever really understand how people can dislike ___ Gen designs fully. I'll never understand the mentality for that.

So to me, Gen I is on the lower scale of Pokemon designs due to tech and the series itself testing the waters. There are many great Pokemon designs in Gen I still, but it does kind of suffer from the newer possibilities.
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>Gen 1
Suffers from a lot of repetition. Lines such as Poliwag, Diglett, Doduo, Magnemite and Voltorb have very simplistic evolutions with little to no change in appearance and aesthetic but this in no means makes them bad designs except possibly Poliwrath and Magneton.

>Gen 2
It continues the simplicity of design introduced from Gen 1 as well as expands some evolutionary lines from gen 1. A number of great designs. Not a single overall bad design in my opinion.

>Gen 3
Pokemon ditches simplicity and begins getting detailed and eye catching. No pokemon is offensively bad except possibly Blaziken who I feel has a good design but there are an incredible number of forgettable pokemon.

>Gen 4
Flashy and cool remains the look but now there are some questionable designs thrown in such as Drapion and Kricketune. The abundance of expanded evolutionary lines is a real hit and miss. Weavile, Roserade, Porygon Z, and Porbopass (fight me) are the better of them. Worst offenders are Rhypherior, Lickilicky and Ambipom. The main legendaries and Arceus are incredibly overdesigned compared to previous ones but it fits them. The Lake Trio however look incredibly boring and samey.

>Gen 5
They got pretty bold with the patterns and flashiness and even decided to emulate Gen 1 pokemon. The starters are regal and proud looking but Emboar is all over the place. Samurott gets a lot of slack but I like his design. The Elemental Monkey evos, the Klink line, and the Cubchoo line are just bad and mons like Alomomola are incredibly forgetable. The legendaries look very out of place except vanilla Kyurem and the genies are just awful. Keldeo is probably the ugliest shit in all regions and Cobalion is the only garbage musketeer. Everything else is fine.

>Gen 6
Very small and rather unimpressive save for some gems. Worst starter designs and 3D models did not help. Diggersby, Aromatisse, the Pyroar line and Goodra are just awful. The legendaries aren't bad but Hoopa is literally who.
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gen 1 by far
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>>27332753
>Gamefreak still haven't fixed Feraligatr's name
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>>27335452
>Cubchoo
>Bad
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