ITT: ____ can learn THAT move?

>ITT: Gen 1 mons

Machamp can learn fire blast

>>27295976
>Cyndaquil and Treecko can learn Crush Claw

>>27295997
>Nidoking, Wigglytuff, Clefable, Slowbro, Chansey can all learn Fire Blast

Lopunny can learn Rototiller!

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>>27295976
These threads never got me before, but why on earth can Pangoro learn Dragon Claw?

>Mew can learn crabhammer

>Pachirisu learns Gunk Shot
>Sneasel learns Surf
>Heatran learns Bug Bite

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>Heliolisk can learn surf

>>27295976
>Rhydon learns Surf
HOW DOES IT NOT DIE

>>27296101
As can Tauros and Gogoat and Aggron(?!).

>>27296123
>inb4 le kaijuu mon meme

>>27296064
no it can't

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>Golurk used fly

Dusclops can learn Hyperbeam and Giga Impact.

>>27295976

>Crawdant can learn Dragon Dance
>Garchomp cant

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>>27296156

>>27295976
Hhahahaha, that MUST be a reference to Kung Fu Panda. The 'Dragon Warrior', unless dragons are regularly compared to pandas in Japan and I'm unaware of it.

weavile learns surf
Weavile, the tiny speedy glass canon weasel

Gliscor learns sky upercut, with its thin arms and claw hands

Sableye learns the elemental punches

Scrafty learns head smash

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>Aggron can learn Surf AND Thunderbolt
what???

>>27296199
thats because it used to be considered a fully evolved mon dummy

>>27296101

Makes sense since it can be argued it's based on these jesus walking-on-water lizard.

>>27296614
Scrafty and Head Smash makes sense though

>>27296123
Being in water =/= getting blasted in the face with high pressure water.

You encounter Wooper in the grass, anon.

>>27296614
>Sableye learns the elemental punches

basically anything that has arms, or may eventually receive arms, learns the elemental punches

wooper learns ice punch

>>27296763
Tangential sense though, scrafty learning headbut makes sense, scrafty learning one of the strongest moves in the game under the excuse "it hits its head" doesn't make too much sense since snorlax doesn't get slack off even when he's lazy

>>27296614
>Gliscor learns sky upercut, with its thin arms and claw hands
First time I've been actually surprised.

>Ducknoir can know Mega Kick

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>>27296840
its not even an egg move, its just natural to this fucker. Gliscor has a weird movepool, things like X-scizzor, earthquake and sky attack make sense, and then you get to sky uppercut, Aqua tail, steel wing and struggle bug. I mean, wtf was GF thinking, Gliscor's movepool is like a gen 1 mon because of all of the weird shit it can learn

>>27296888
i don't see how any of those don't make sense.


also sky uppercut was in the anime so it seems fine to me

>Infestation
>Magcargo
>Quagsire
>Pangoro
>Huntail
>Gorebyss
>Mr. Mime

>>27296915
Sky uppercut was already explained. After reading the entry for aqua tail it seems more believable, since its literaly just swinging the tail around, but how could gliscor realisticaly attack with its damn wings? and struggle bug has the vaguest description ever, but I'm asuming this is literaly a bug struggling, and scorpions aren't bugs

>>27296985
watch the anime, it shows it using steel wing, just attacks on a turn, or hits to the side of the opponent

also its claws are bigger than the rest of its body parts, sky uppercut looks like a fit

>>27296123
>>27296724
Water attacks by fellow Pokemon =/= regular everyday water.
The anime lied.

>>27297018
I'd like to see the sense in gliscor's delicate arms ever successfully punching anybody.

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Hammer Arm

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Tail Whip

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>>27297137
>>>>Hammer Arm
>>>>Ice beam
>>>>Blizzard
>>>>Fire blast
>>>>Flame thrower
>>>>Thunder
>>>>Thunderbolt
>>>>Dragon pulse
WTF GF, HIS SPECIAL MOVEPOOL IS BETTER THAN HIS PHYSICAL MOVEPOOL, WHY?!

>>27296738
Yeah but it's not anymore dummy.

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Ice Beam

>>27297452

almost every water type can learn ice beam

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>>27297485
This one I don't get.
>Sp.Atk of 60

>>27297485
"almost"

>>27296985
They are bugs. They are not insects.

>>27297882
...no, scorpions are arachnids, not bugs

>>27297386
its not like they can take away those moves now though

>>27297917
What's classified as a bug? Cause arachnids follow under my definition of bugs

>>27296100
>heatran learns bug bite
W-wait, really? Well I'll be damned.

>>27297452
Fuck you, man. That's a sore subject.

>>27297485
Went right over your head.

>>27297452
kek

>>27298080
Bugs have 6 legs

>Emboar can learn Scald
>Gyarados can learn Fire Blast

Everything having Earthquake is nonsense, only the most legendary of legendary ground pokemon should be able to do that shit.

>>27297049

What is this fucking idiotic meme? Plenty of fighting types have similar arms, like Breloom, Hitmontop, Gallade, Medicham. Punching is about body strength anyway, not arm strength.

>Victreebel learns Teeter Dance
>Galvantula learns Magnet Rise
>Flygon learns Solar Beam (but then, so do a LOT of Pokémon)
>Charizard learns Ancient Power
>Beedrill learns Electroweb
>Dragalge learns Icy Wind

>>27296054
Dragon-style kung fu + Pangoro's claws?

>>27296471
China, not Japan. Refer to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Dragon_Kung_Fu

>>27296614
Scrafty knowing Head Smash makes sense; headbutting things is a big part of its pre-evolution's overall schtick. For example:

WHITE DEX ENTRY: It immediately headbutts anyone that makes eye contact with it. Its skull is massively thick.

They also have access to Headbutt, Zen Headbutt, and Iron Head

>>27298230
don't scorpions have six legs? Or do the claws also count?

>>27296985
Gliscor probably glides into the person to wing attack

>>27298745

Scorpions have eight legs. The "arms" are forelegs.

>>27298713
I mean the relative size when compared to its arms. Hitmontop and brelom have small hands, which means they can more easily swing them around and apply controled momentum to them, same thing with gallade and medicham. Gliscor's claws are huge, bigger than its head; being that big wont let it move them easily, and so it wont apply enough strength to actualy cause damage when punching.

Think about it like this: what would hurt more, someone hitting you with a small iron ball in their hand, or someone pushing you with a giant boulder

>>27298887

it's almost like Kingler, Crawdaunt and Scizor are exactly the same in that regard. in fact Mega Scizor loses its elbows and its claws are the size of its body.

>>27298230
Insects have six legs. Arthropods that live above water can be considered bugs, albeit informally

Arcanine can learn solar beam

>>27299338
That's as much of a stretch as saying gliscor is a scorpionfly

>>27296724
Lullaby?
Arrgon is one of my favorites, I didn't know this. Thanks for the tip

Tauros gets whirlpool

>>27296281
my sides

I'm still confused by Natu learning Giga Drain by TM

>>27295976
>Togekiss, Clefable, Slurpluff, and Gloom get Drain Punch

>>27297211
Not to mention it also learns earth power, ancient power (although that one makes more sense), focus blast, incinerate, shock wave, surf, whirpool and spite.

Its so funny how most pokemon would kill for a special movepool like rampardos... except for rampardos

>>27296216
I'm sorry, you do like the current meta game, don't you?

>>27299386
I thought it was a scorpionbat, hence the Gligarman episode.

>>27299386
One has six legs, the other has eight. It's not really much of a stretch

>>27296803
Snorlax not having Slack Off is a balance choice, much like Garchomp not having access to DDance.

>>27297452
I don't get it

>>27299583
It is a scorpionbat, not a scorpionfly, google the second one

>>27299587
One is generaly bigger than your hands, the other is often smaller than your eye. Its a mistake made by 1st graders to confuse both

I find it so weird that Golem of all Pokemon that gets Steamroller, a move that is otherwise exclusive to the Venipede line. What makes Golem able to use it over Pokemon like Donphan? It just seems strange to me.

>>27299918
It's spherical.

>>27299918
Its litteraly a round boulder, rolling is the one thing it can do better than any other rock type

>>27299759
What are you on about? They both come in different sizes, some huge some small. Maybe read a book before you start arguing about biology

>>27299918
better yet, whats up with steamroller being bug type? it really should be rock.

>>27299937
>>27299938
I get that, I'm not saying it doesn't make sense for him to have it, just for him to have it and other Pokemon not have it. Also he gets the move at level 18 in B/W, 11 in X/Y, and 10 OR/AS. Only Golem gets it, not the pre-evolutions. Why is he programmed to get the move at a level that's before you can even obtain him? Why not make it a level 1 move?

meowth learns petal dance

>>27299759
Also websters dictionary defenition:
An insect or other creeping or crawling invertebrate (as a spider or centipede)

>>27299983
Yes, but I was talking about the average. It doens't matter any ways, Gliscor is not a bug

>>27299989
And why do they keep changing the level if it doesn't matter anyway? None of this makes sense to me.

>>27297917
Bug=arthropod
insect=six legged arthopod

>>27299991
bullshit
it does learn gunk shot tho

>>27296216
DD Garchomp would destroy the metagame

>>27300013
Shut the fuck up, you weren't talking about the average. You're just trying to bullshit your way out of the argument

>>27300098
Ice shard

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>Doduo, Dodrio, Elgyem, Beheeyem and Leavanny can all learn Steel Wing

???

>>27300132
elgyem and beheeyem are aliens. steel wing is TM51.
they crash their ufo in you

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>>27300077
i do admit its a bit cheaty to count event moves
kinda like octazooka sableye

>>27299991
No it can't.

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>>27300107
Yeah, because I think all arachnids are gigantic and that all insects are the size of fleas. I'll give you credit where credit is due >>27300076 is right and I'm wrong, I guess gliscor is a bug by the textbook definition. But I'm not bullshiting my way out of anything. Most arachnids are big, and most insects are small. There are esceptions like small spiders and the big stick insects, but on average thats the rule. Now calm down, jeez.

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>>27300269

>>27295976
Mew can learn Crabhammer?

>>27297197
I forget that chansey has a really long tail.

>>27300168
>elgyem and beheeyem are aliens. steel wing is TM51.
that's both clever and retarded.

>nidoking
>nidoqueen
>lickitung
>tauros
>rhydon
>kangaskhan
>snorlax
>furret
>sneasel
>miltank
>linoone
>exploud
>hariyama
>aggron
>lati@s
>rayquaza
>rampardos
>garchomp
>stoutland
>audino
>haxorus
>bouffalant
>Hydreigon
>diggersby
>Gogoat
>pangoro
>furfrou
>slurpuff
>Heliolisk

every single one of these pokemon can learn surf

>>27299987
Steamrollers are made of metal

>>27300420
It's neither; it's an oversight from TM51 being Ally Switch in gen V

Primape learns Overheat and Thunderbolt.

>>27295976
On that note, Pangoro learns Infestation. ... Why?

>>27302572
Primape is a hothead so overheat is a given, but I don't know why it can learn thunderbolt.

Hariyama can learn Brine via move tutor.
you get attacked by sumo sweat how horrifying

>>27302582
A sack of fleas?

>>27296100
>thought you meant heatmor instead of heatran
>look it up
>heatran can in fact learn bug bite

well shit

That one Japanese event Sableye that knows Octazooka

>>27298230
insects have 6 legs. all creepy crawlies are bugs.

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>Bubble Beam
>Water Gun
>Ice Beam
>Blizzard
>Icy Wind
>Flamethrower
>Fire Blast
>Incenerate
>Aerial Ace
Seriously, how does Marowak/Cubone even do most of these moves

>>27302897
>Water/Ice types
All of it's pent up tears from crying as a Cubone
>Fire types
The rage of having a dead mother
>Aerial Ace
You got me there

>>27299987
Steamroller was made with Scolipede in mind, just like Rollout was made with Golem in mind.

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>>27302865
OK I GET IT GLISCOR IS A BUG, I WAS WRONG, SORRY

>>27295976
Empoleon learning Grass Knot. I thought it was a bug when I first saw it

>>27295976
Aggron: Surf, Aerial Ace
^That made me WTF enough to make me want to keep it on my Emerald team.

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>>27302897
>>27302929
Aerial Ace is a legendary samurai slash that cuts three different places in a split second to prevent even a bird from evading getting cut. Marowak just uses its bone as a sword.

>>27303067
It uses a blunt weapon to make precise cuts?
I guess they're tiny edges on the bone that we don't see.

Is it really true TM06 can be taught to almost any pokemon?

Why?

>>27303234
its just farting or throwing up

Lucario can learn Heal Pulse.

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>>27295976

>>27303410
He's the aura pokemon, of course he can

>>27303067
>Aerial Ace is a legendary samurai slash
>60bp

>>27296101
linoone as well. strange.

>>27295976
Speaking of Dragon Claw, Chesnaught learns it.
>>27303894
The Japanese name fits. It's a translation team fuck up.

Lapras can learn Tickle

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>>27297452
>doesn't get ice beam
>doesn't get waterfall or any other physical water attack either
Can't run a physical set without its water STAB or have Ice Beam for coverage on a special one...

>>27297038
err what

all of water attacks from the anime come from the pokemon itself, not "regular everyday water"

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>>27299466
It's cannon, by the way.

>>27305633
Watching Golurk fly for the first time was some of the coolest shit ever. Who the fuck expected that.

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>pidgey can't learn peck

>>27306143
This combined with the fact Gust was normal type for some reason in gen 1 is why Spearow was a better choice early game.

>>27298799
Fun trivia of the day! Arachnids have twelve limbs. Eight legs, two feelers (re-purposed into claws on scorpions), and two... jaw, limb, thingies. Like, how spiders can knead their teeth, and how scorpions actually have a tiny pair of claws in there.

Diglett can learn Aerial Ace.

Regice learns Zap Cannon.
Not sure about the other Regis.

It's a pretty rare move, even among electric types

>>27306286
This is the craziest one so far to me

>>27306286
>>27306477
In such an instance, I imagine it being shot out it's hole at an extreme speed and disappearing into the sky, only for it to appear from its hole again.

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>>27296139

>>27306107
It's partly based on a giant mecha. Why wouldn't it fly?

>>27307336
I just don't think many expected the solemn ghost giant to become a badass rocketship the first time it happened.

Nidoking's moveset

It looks more like a physical attacker. Not a special attacker.

It even has more special moves than Delphox.

>>27306286
See >>27303067

It's canon from many of Diglett's other moves that it has sharp claws (that aren't depicted in its sprite). It learns stuff like Slash and IIRC Metal Claw.

Sharpedo learns earthquake

>>27295997
>Meowth can learn Water Gun and Bubble Beam

>>27307068
I need a webm of this please

Drain punch Togekiss

>>27303968
>Swallow Return
>fits

Seaking can learn SURF and HYDROPUMP

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Take a look at who can learn Teleport in Gen 1

>>27309025
>abra
WHAT THE FUCK

>>27307444
It is supposed to be a physical attacker. Look at its Attack Stat.

>>27309087
That doesn't matter. Special attacking nidoking does more damage, isn't crippled by burns and is walled by less things.

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Gastly, Shuppet, Huntail, Bonsly, Spiritomb, Ekans, Misdreavus, Voltorb and Seviper can all learn Sucker Punch (despite not having arms).

It makes sense since it only means "Surprise attack" in japanese but it still surprises me when I see one of them using it.

Diglett nasty plot

>>27300278
>most aracghnids are big and most insects are small

This isn't true, they're both usually pretty small. Giant scorpions and tarantulas are popular because they're cool, but keep in mind that there are many types of spiders the size of a pen ball and there are even arachnids that live in human skin pores. The same thing goes for insects since there are some small enough to eat dead skin particles from your bed while others are giant rhinoceros beetles and New Zealand's weta.

I've also read somewhere that only insects within the order 'Hemiptera' are considered to be true bugs. Google says this group contains: cicadas, aphids, planthoppers, leafhoppers, and shield bugs

>>27296018
And I do fucking enjoy using it.
Focus blast
Fireblast
Power Trick
Rest

Miltank is the only pokemon that can learn Heart Stamp by breeding.

>>27309974
>arachnids that live in your pores
Welp, there goes any chance at sleeping.

>>27308969
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasaki_Kojir%C5%8D#Swallow_Cut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasaki_Kojir%C5%8D#Sasaki_Kojir.C5.8D_in_fiction

Shit fits, yo.

>>27295976
Fighting/Dragon mega when?

Dragon warrior...

>>27295976
Oddish learns moon blast

>>27310868
that makes sense, considering the pokedex says it's only active at nighttime
a weird one is slowpoke learning incinerate

>>27299542
>Slurpuff gets drain punch
>it doesn't get the elemental punches
For what fucking purpose?

>>27296101
Heliolisk, Rhydon, Tauros, Aggron, Pangoro, and Furfrou can all learn surf

>>27298080
most people (and gamefreak) use the term "bug" to describe all varieties of creepy crawlies. In real life, TRUE bugs (hemiptera) are a special group of insects that all have sucking mouth parts. This group includes aphids, cicadas, leaf hoppers, etc

>>27300132
>>27300168
oh the thing about that is that TM 51 in gen 5 is Ally Switch, but in gen 6 it became Steel Wing, and they forgot remove it for Elgyem and Beheeyem. So yeah, aliens have metal wings. I wonder if they'll ever fix that...

>>27309025
>teleporting bivalves

Emboar having access to both Scald and Grass Knot always confused me...

>>27311978
Literally 90% of fully evolved mons can learn Grass Knot.
Scald is just scorching-hot water, makes sense for some Fire types to learn it.

>>27312040
I understand the scald one to some extent (other than where the fuck the water is coming from), but why is grass knot to accessable?

>>27312066
You make a knot with grass you found around and attempt to trip the opponent with it.

>>27303918
Linoone also has retardedly high density (It's tiny and weighs, like, 70 lb.) and is more dene than some metals. How does it even float?

>>27306254
Spearow was always the better choice. Fearow was a beast and could learn Drill Peck, best flying move in the game back then (because who wants to waste a turn charging up for Sky Attack?). Pidgeot could never learn Drill Peck.

>>27302615
>hothead

>>27300132
Leavanny has wings and is pretty mich based on a tailor too, so it is justified.

Can't tell much about Doduo and Dodrio.

Worst part that Elgyem has a tail for no reason and cannot learn Iron Tail but then learns Steel Wing upon evolving.

>inb4someoneforcestheA51headcanonmeme

>>27299645
Slack Off is objectively a worse competitive choice for it compared to Rest.

>>27312276
>healing then waking up
>worse than healing and not waking up
???

>>27298732
Teeter Dance comes from Bellsprout, I mean you do not need explanation for this.

>>27298390
Yet Unova shitty legendaries cannot learn it. Worst. Legendaries. Ever.

>>27298127
It's has some obscure background partially based on a "fire" bug.

>>27309845
You could say you got sucker punched by that result

>>27309025
If Teleport acted like a nerfed Baton Pass it woud be so much better.

>>27312295
>wisp
>toxic
>scald
Ebin.

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>>27312482
>not using Immunity Snorlax
....wyd?

>>27309025
>we'll be able to use Teleportdog in S/M

>>27309845
A sucker punch is also a generic term for a surprising blow that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with fists.

>>27310868
Despite the "Weed Pokemon" name Oddish is clearly based on a mandragora.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandrake#Folklore

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandragora_(genus)

Baby aspect like body, poisonous, nocturnal, etc. I think it only misses cry based attacks.

The fact it learns Moonlight instead of Synthesis by level up also hints a lot at how it has a witchcraft related origin too, some Wicca but witchcraft rituals are dne at full moon and such.

Also a reason Vileplume is used in Karen's team which is obviously based on the witchcraft theme, she's like a some sort of femme fatale witch that uses a crow, black cat, spirit, hellhound and madragora (tfw some folk stories say you require a dog sacrifice in order to collect a mandragora). Also third E4 in order like Agatha that had a horror and detective like team theme based on classics literature and generic spooky stories about haunted places.

Moonblast is just a Moonlight sequel.

>>27312248
Area 51. Also, UFOs. It drives its ship into the foe.

>>27312518
>situational single status immunity vs resistance to flare blitz, ice beam and common special fire attacks

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>>27312578
It makes sense on Diglett/Dugtrio once you give it a little more thought, little moles which are hidden in the ground and can just pop out of nowhere are likely to just strike you without notice. You don't know where them claws or its head will come from with how fast it can move.

>>27312592
That was just an Ally Switch mistake.
If they wanted the UFO meme reference they would let it learn Flash Cannot, thing that Aromatisse and Reuniclus can learn instead.

>>27312610
>common status which is used to wear down bulky mons
>situational on a bulky mon like Snorlax
>implying Snorlax doesn't have solid enough special defense + HP to take on common special attacks like Ice Beam and Fire Blast
uhhh

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Tauros learning steel wing. Truly an American Spirit

>>27311891
its their ufo
>>27300168

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>Zangoose learns Giga Drain
>Zangoose STILL can't learn Cut

>>27312661
>wasting your ability to block status instead of using a RestTalk set