HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHERE'S YOUR BREEDING NOW?

>>27264854
In egg moves+natures

also ballism

What do you mean, are they removing breeding in Sun and Moon?

Still needed for little cup

>>27264886
They are obsoleting it.

>>27264886
You can now train and raise IVs so now no need for breeding for that?

Still need it for nature, moves and shines though.

>>27264854

Only Pokemon that already lvl 100 can use Hyper Training.

Breeding is still much faster.

>>27264875
Fpbp

>>27264943
Especially since EXP scaling is back.

It's good for imperfect Pokemon that you're already attached to, though.

http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/mudsdale/

>Now, with Hyper Training, Pokémon that have grown to Lv. 100 will be able to increase their individual strengths, which has never been possible before.

>With Hyper Training, you can increase the strength of the Lv. 100 Pokémon you’ve been adventuring with!

>Lv. 100 Pokémon you’ve been adventuring with

>Lv. 100 Pokemon

Super Training is slower than EV training, and Hyper Training is slower than IV breeding

>>27264943
Only if you already have a hacked Ditto, and breeding for hundreds of hours is a lot more boring than battling for two or three hours per team

>>27264925
>>27264930
Raising a Pokémon to 100 takes longer than breeding a 5 perfect iv Pokémon. Bike simulator is still better.

Bike simulator is still a thing though. just waaaaaay easier in theory.

>>27264991

Yeah this is more for Pokemon transferred from older gens

Remember, we'll able to transfer Gen 1 Pokemon to Sun/Moon via Pokebank and breeding didn't exist in Gen 1

>>27265015
Perfect IV fissure no guard machamp

>>27264997
Breeding gets exponentially faster the more you do it. I could breed up 2 or 3 pokemon in the time it would take to level up 1 to 100 by grinding the E4.

Bike sim also takes next to none of your attention so you can just watch TV and shit. Grinding battles you need to pay attention.

>>27264997
But you won't need hacked Dittos anymore, just get one of each good nature to level 100

>>27265105
>>27264997
>>27264943
I could insert literally a 1000 (thousand) competitive ready pokemon in several minutes and actually enjoy the game instead

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Surely they'll have rematch-able trainers with a team of level 100 Blisseys in game, right? And surely there will be a device that'll allow to check the natures of wild Pokemon, right??

You can get legit good IV shiny Pokemon without killing yourself

>>27265171
With all the gimmick abilities there probably will be some fortune teller hand shaped Pokemon who can see opposing Pokemon natures.

>still can't get Fake Out or Ice Shard on my old Weavile

>>27264854
>tfw i already have 2 boxes of perfectly bred level 100 mons

>>27265225
Or you can get pokemon with various natures and synchronize to get them more easily.

>have to get to 100 and grind bottle caps
What's the point? Only useful for legendaries.

>>27265007
But you can train 2-6 pokemon at once, depending on how the EXP Share is handled, while you can only breed one at a time.

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>>27264996
Why can't they do anything right?!

>>27265771
what do you mean?
this is right

now breeders have a way of buffing up those shiny mons that they hatched with the right natures/egg moves but just got unlucky with the IVs on and gay babies who are too lazy/stupid to breed still get shit on

its LITERALLY perfect

>>27265805
Until it's as easy as injecting it's never right.

>>27265861
>if its not as easy as cheating then its not worth playing

this isn't the game for you friend
you should probably find a different hobby

>>27265007
Think bigger, your old playthrough teams can now be stronk.

>>27265171
I'd like to think we'll get a Dex-Nav feature that now shows Nature as well as Ability and first move.

If we have all this then breeding has met it's match

>>27265885

Watch out, you're gonna start a shitstorm of people ganging up on you calling you a faggot for not cheating.

>>27266022
>if we have the ability to walk around in the grass forever and hope that RNG blesses us with a pokemon with the right nature and ability then breeding has met its match... until we need egg moves...and situations where we don't need 31 IVs... not to mention that getting the right nature and ability out of an egg is as simple as just putting one and one togeather and takes all of 10 min when the grass could take god knows how long... then I have to level that pokemon up to 100... and then I have to get bottlecaps....

meanwhile the guy breeding was done 3 hours ago and is already doing battle on wifi

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WHERE THE FUCK IS NATURE CHANGER

FUCK

>>27266136
hopefully never

stop crying about making things so fucking easy and just use the mechanics the game gives you

holy shit

>>27266170
then my wild shinies are useless, good stuff anon

And guess what it's gonna come eventually if it's not already there

>>27264875
>balltism
>implying you can't just use synchronize and the pokeball of your choice during capture, then max out the ivs

>>27266093
the guy breeding still needs to raise to at least level 50, not to mention having to breed over and over to get those 5 IVs.

Breeding still has its place for non-31 IVs, and for pokemon that need egg moves, but otherwise Hyper Training is a very good alternative, especially if gen 6's EXP Share returns and you can easily get 5-6 pokemon to level 100 at once.

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>>27266215
When the fuck are we gonna get the cap back to 100.
There's barely a reason to train to 100 anymore because of game freak stupid shit.

>>27266136
Sold right along side the hidden Ability Capsule at the Battle Frontier ;)

>>27266093
For people who don't have 31 IV dittos in every nature and boxes of pokemon it's a huge time saver. It's shit for you because you've already got all your breeding stock.

>>27264854
Have fun grinding 1 bottlecaps.

>>27266198
>wild shinies

are those still like 1/50k? or are they even rarer than that

also if you are chaining just use synchronize the mechanic already exists

>>27266215
right but getting to level 50 takes even less than half the time of getting to 100 and breeding a whole team of 6IVs will probably take less time than going out, catching them all individually with the right nature and ability, leveling them to 100, and grinding an absurd number of bottlecaps in order to increase all their IVs

besides XP share benefits both of them
its just one has to level to 50 as his end step and the other has to level to 100 just to begin

breeding is still, hopefully, gonna be WAY WAY faster


>>27266294
first thing I did when I wanted to get into endgame pokemon was invest time in getting an army of dittos
will never understand why everyone didn't do this
it has saved probably hundreds of hours and has made breeding the easiest thing in the world
I understand why people complain about breeding but they only complain because they literally are too stupid to look at the bigger picture and get everything setup properly. They seem to think that breeding is catching Pokemon X male and female and then throwing them into the daycare for 10,000 cycles when in reality it is throwing one pokemon in with 1 ditto and getting your 6IV child in like 10 cycles or less

>>27266261
because the power spike at 100 favors some pokemon over others while the vast majority of pokemon are able to compete at the 50 mark

I am just wondering when 6v6 team battle is going to be the default online battling method and on this shit 3v3 pick your team crap that we have today

>>27265015
>Remember, we'll able to transfer Gen 1 Pokemon to Sun/Moon via Pokebank
source? I only came here to talk about the pokemon revealed today

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>>27266401
Was announced a while back

>>27266584
that's fucking great

>>27266601
More info
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/#pokemon-sun-pokemon-moon

>>27264886
You can customize IVs. Or rather, increase any level 100 Pokemon's IVs ("Base stats").

Doing the calculation though, it seems the example Pikachu had EVs. In Sp. Defense, I think, because the calculator said the numbers were too high for a Pikachu to have.
Im hoping for IVs to stay random but the base stats themselves can be upped if theyre below a certain amount/total (So that everything can be as strong as a legendary, with or without megas, but without giving legends/fucking Slaking a boost)

>>27266204
>Implying Apricots are coming back to Alola
Don't toy with me like that faggot.

I dont get why people don't just inject it or go on showdown.

>>27267018
>Showdown
commit seppuku

>>27265805
>that WORD again

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>Injectors win again

>>27266350
>are those still like 1/50k? or are they even rarer than that
they're like 1/800 in gen 6

>>27265137
>cheating in a children's game
>enjoying cheating
Bet your boyfriend cheats on you and you love it.

>>27266350
>>27267140
in gens 3-5 it was 1/8192
In gen 5 with the shiny charm it was 1/2731
In gen 6 it is 1/4096, or 1/1365 with the shiny charm
These are standard wild chances and do not take things like Masuda Method, Chain Fishing, Friend Safari, or Hordes into account.

>>27267209
>he enjoys grinding 1000 hours for a mon he will use for only 3 battles until he quits because he realizes he is a sub 1000 shitter for get bored of battling kiddies with their ingame team in wifi

>>27267341
sounds like some projection anon

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>>27267341
>1000 hours
nigga I can get like three shinies per day just from horde hunting