Why are fire types always the most popular starter?

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>>27239680
is that the exact same cat?

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>>27239745
Yes

Probably because fire types are hard to find in the actual game (at least for 4ish gyms). And good water types are fucking everywhere, there are so many good water types, there's never a reason to pick a water starter.

Grass is irrelevant, also.

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>when she pick water type

>>27239794
this, especially in early gens

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>>27239794
I wish I could defend my favorite starter lineup but I cant

>>27239794
Pretty sure you're overthinking it there. Most Pokemon players are kids who go into the game without that kind of knowledge. I'd say it's because the Fire starter is usually the most tough/fearsome/ferocious/"cool"-looking, and therefore the most appealing to little boys.

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>Mfw other people are now posting kot

But anyways, would you say that tepig was more popular than snivy? Also, froakie/greninja makes a case against that.

>>27239680
>feraligatr
>empoleon
>serperior
>greninja

?

>>27240194
You are delusional if you think Feraligatr is more popular then Typhlosion.

>>27239680
a few reasons:

1) fire starters (up to gen 5) consistently looked cool/dynamic
2) fire is a rarer typing than both water and grass
3) fire, as a theme, is far easier to understand than water or grass, and it's easier to attribute power, destructiveness, etc. to it
4) grass types are the thinking-man's pokemon, and little kids don't like to think

Emboar and Delphox certainly aren't the most popular.
Infernape and Typhlosion are debatable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_rnJgaWiMw

Aside from Charizard, Water and Grass seem to be much more popular. Of all my friends, I'm the only person who picks Fire most of the time.

>>27239680
Regions where Fire starters are picked the most:
>Kanto
>Johto
>Hoenn
>Possibly Sinnoh(?)
That's at most 4 regions out of 6, and gen 7 is shaping up to having Rowlet as the most Popular, so in that case, Fire is only the most popular about half the time.

fire is cool
water is ok
grass is lame

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>>27240166
I love based kot. Im collecting his photos

>>27240299
4 out of 6 (66%) isn't bad, particularly when you consider there are three types to choose from.

(I'm not going to make predictions re: gen VII based on meme-owl's meme status at this point)

>>27240238
>Delphox
>not furpular
Because of narutoad being naruto with shurukens and shit. But still the 2th.

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more cute russian cat

>>27239843
Neither can I. Meganium is just shit but I love it

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>>27241659

>>27239680
Because they are hot.

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litten's my pick

>>27239680

Actually, Grass, Water and Fire type are all popular.

>>27239680
>always
Gen 5 had grass and Gens 2 and 6 had water as the most popular

>>27240231
>skinny snorlax
>more popular than Gojira

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>>27240166
>he doesn't have a kot folder

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>>27242423
Kot is kyut

>>27239921
explain why torchic is the most popular RSE starter despite treeko's line being way cooler to the typical little boy.

Fire is pretty OP. It hits like 6 types super effectively while having equally as many resistances. Plus they're usually fast and have great special attack, with lots of over 100 damage moves. Now that fire types can learn solar beam, water, ground and rock aren't as much of a threat.

>hitting your opponent with grass
>hitting your opponent with water
>hitting your opponent with fire

I dunno

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>>27242723
>despite treeko's line being way cooler to the typical little boy
Source? Fire itself as a type is viewed as strong anyways.

>>27242723
I chose torchic cos it was the first one to pop up and I had no idea what I was doing

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>>27242423
>implying

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They're usually the most useful and the coolest looking. Duh.

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Why is Fire the best type?

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>>27239680
>not picking fire every game

Because They are mainly Red

That's why, and people think Fire is Cool
They are idiots

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>>27239680
>tfw kot folder is filling up
i love kot

>Charizard
So original...

>Typhlosion
Good

>Blaziken
Literally a fucking chicken

>Infernape
Good

>Emboar
*puke*

>Delphox
Yeah... no

>Wrestler Litten
You gonna choose him? You can choose the fucking badass owl archer

Cuz their retards, only good fire type is that black half-assed salamander who I can't remember the name of right now because it's a Fire/Poison with a new unique ability and it's also Hitler's favorite

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Because according to numerous polls, fire is the most popular type in the game.

God knows why that is tho. Fkn shit type.

>>27245711
>good both offensively and defensively
>resists fairy
>kills steel
>immune to burn
>has heatran,volcorona and edgezard
Wow terrible

>>27240194
>Empoleon more popular than Infernape
HAHAHAHA

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>>27241814
>I love Bulbasaur.
>Venusaaur looks like shit.
>I love Chikorita.
>It gets its bones broken by every fucking breeze that blows in Johto.
>Everybody likes Treecko so whatever.
>I love Turtwig.
>Nobody likes Sinnoh for some reason.
>Snivy is my favorite starter in the series.
>It not learning that many great offensive moves automatically makes it shit, according to faggots.
>I like Chespin.
>People hate Quilladin and Chesnaught, and I, preferring Greninja and the entire Fennekin line over Chespin, see no fucking problem with the hedgies whatsoever.

Can we be friends?

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>>27246403
Hush now child, let us grass starters weep in sorrow until we see if rowlett is any good

>>27241814
Meganium is one of my favourite gen 2 Pokemon. I don't get why so many people hate it ;_;

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Fire type appeals to the ~9-12 year old demographic who also thinks big edgy mons like T-Tar are cool, this is why they pander the maximum edge blue flames Mega Charizard over the more standard looking one. Lucario also appeals to this same demographic.

A peek inside any fire type related thread looks more like a youtube comment section and is filled with people like >>27243450 or >>27240310.

Tl;dr, if someone repeatedly picks fire types, there's a high likelyhood they're either underage, or their taste in Pokemon hasn't advanced in several years.

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>>27246490
I don't care whether Rowlet becomes the most popular starter or the most despised. It will be part of our family.

>>27246403
Weirdly enough I don't like Sinnoh. Something about it was just weird for me. Idunno, I went back and tried to play it again and it was just... boring.

>>27246502
I speculate that people who get really engrossed in competitive play kind of forget the wonders of playing through the single player game with Pokemon as friends. Not saying competitive folk are heartless, but I think playing that way makes you look at Pokemon strictly in terms of battle capability, and little more. Compare that to how I, for example, play Pokemon games. I chose the Pokemon I like the most, be it because of their design, concept, moves, or whatever. But I play with Pokemon I like, and I never have to think about them sucking unless I'm just not used to that kind of Pokemon's strengths. The core campaign is consistently designed in such a way that you can beat it with any number and kinds of Pokemon, no matter how weak they may actually be.

>>27245794
>weak to common types like water, rock and ground
Wow, so powerful.

>>27239794
>Grass is irrelevant, also.
I don't know about that. Sceptile is fairly popular considering it got into Pokken.

>>27240231
Feraligatr got to star in a Pokemon movie while Typhlosion's last anime appearance was over a decade ago.

>>27246622
That's what I love about Pokemon. You aren't forced to use the stronger Pokemon on your adventures if you don't want to use them. If your new best friend is weak then that's okay, if it works hard then it can be just as good as anyone else. You can still beat the E4 and champion and continue going from there. I mean, sure, it would be nice if some Pokemon received slight BST boosts and/or movepool changes. But it isn't as if they're completely unusable or something.

>>27239680
No one likes Delphox or Emboar, though.

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>>27247053
>no one likes delphox
fuck you
still mad they didn't went full witch and made it a ghost/fire
that's the best pairing

>>27239921
this

i was that little boy

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>>27239680
>Totodile
>Treecko arguably
>Snivy
>Froakie
>Rowlett

>>27247362
As much as I LOVE the Treecko line, Blaziken is easily more popular due to appearing in the anime early and getting a Mega first. Still better than Shitpert though.

because theyre "cool" "badass" normie bait.

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>>27240166
>kot
>not кoшкa

>>27239680
little kids like the color red

>>27245349
i consistently did that until oras

>>27239794
This.
Fire is rare, while water is common. Further, many fire types have major flaws (Numel and Slugma spring instantly to mind), while the starter has a certain guarantee of quality. Even if you find a fire type, there is no guarantee it will be good.

Water does have the benefit of not needing to look for a Surfer later, but that is about it. The single biggest argument against most water starters is Gyarados. Gyarados is almost always available, and available early, and is fucking awesome. Oshawott was the only starter to not have this disadvantage, and sure enough, Oshawot is considered the least of three evils.

Grass tends to be between the two, but Grass Type starters are awful for playthroughs, mostly because of Grass Type Movepool Syndrome. The Grass starters tend to be on the better end of the spectrum of Grass types, but they are still pretty bad. If there is any of the three starter types you can ignore in-game, it's most certainly Grass.

>>27246622
I agree with this, but Meganium is awful in-game as well. Johto was stacked against it, Chuck's Poliwrath is literally the first major fight it has an advantage in, followed by Will's Slowbro. That's it, two fucking pokemon in an entire region. Three if you count Pryce's Piloswine, who has an advantage itself. It is weak to Team Rocket, Silver has a team full of things strong against it, and Body Slam is the only notable move it learns. Plus, it only gets Poison Powder, which sucks. No Sleep Powder, no Leech Seed(without breeding), just poison. Meganium gets Earthquake via TM, which is fucking awesome, but by that point it's too little too late.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but for a kid who picked Chikorita, it's a major letdown to have your partner be so unreliable. I should know. In a straight comparison of playthrough viability, Meganium isn't even the worst starter. Serperior is worse, but Unova was less punishing to Grass types.

>>27239680
Because prepubescence hyperactive boys are all over the color red. Amirite valor?

pls post more kot
i love kot
kot is so kyoot
continue your discussion but post kot along with it

Obviously because they are fire/fighting half of the time. People like that.

>>27248108
Fuck off, Serperior was good ingame even without contrary, it has access to Coil to set up, tank and sweep and has a decent support movepool and the speed to use it. I love grass types and Meganium is fucking awful.

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>>27248179
>implying Mystic isn't home of the "different from the average" girls

>>27249138
How did he imply that?

>>27239680
Fire is the hottest choice among people.

>>27239763
>>27239745
Is it that fucking hard to clean the fucking grout?

>>27246403
I'd be your friend, but I like Venusaur.

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>>27246502
/vp/ has a lot of people who play the remakes and not the GBC games for gen 2. In the GBC games Meganium is a little bit weaker than the others but is still a good pokemon and one of the best of its type. In the DS games the mechanic changes to the series indirectly buff Feraligatr by adding Physical water type moves as well as other useful new moves like ice fang, agility, and superpower by level up. Typhlosion is also significantly buffed in the remakes since it learns Lava Plume at level 35 and doesn't have to use a TM or wait till level 60 to have a good fire move anymore. On top of that while the Chikorita line is also given some buffs like access to Petal Dance, it is actually nerfed early game since instead of learning Reflect at level 12 it learns it at level 17. Also, with new items offensive pokemon became much more powerful than defensive pokemon.

The objective truth is

>Charizard
>Typhlosion
>Blaziken
>Empoleon
>Samurott
>Greninja

By the Japanese poll. 3 gens of fire in a row followed by 3 gens of water.

Will Rowlet start grass's turn?

>>27247851
but kot is a boy, not a girl, Toвapищ

>>27249906
I'm pretty sure Litten will be the most popular in japan, based on the first stages at least.

>>27246502
>;_;
>>27246503
>T-T
Stop that

>>27239680
While I tend to go with the water starter, I think I have an idea as to why some people go for fire.
They're children, the thing that has vines and shoots leaves isn't as cool as the thing that shoots water hard enough to punch through steel, which still isn't as cool as something that breathes fire and evolves into a dragon/something with fire on its body. Kids pick the 'coolest' one.

>>27239680
because Red has always been the leader.
Red Ranger for example

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I'm not a firefag but

>Good offense
>Good speed
>Good movepool
>Fire as a type is generally rare in game
>Fire (and/or its subtypes) as a type is generally useful in game
>Pleasant aesthetics

Charizard, Typhlosion, Blaziken and Infernape all fulfill these conditions (Typhlosion had thunderpunch TM in gen 2), while the latter 2 fire starters fall short of their senpais. There's also the issue of Gen V having horrible starters (Serperior had great design but horrible everything else) and Gen VI being the age of Narutofrog because Delphox failed as a waifu character and the grass starter final evo is literally who tier.

Like someone else mentioned earlier useful/good water types are abundant to choose from while grass offers little in the pve campaign. The only grass starter I favoured was Bulbasaur and that was solely for the sleep power/leech seed combination.

Venusaur
Feraligatr
Swampert
Empoleon
Lilligant (first game I actually ditched my starter)
Greninja

are my choices.

>>27246503
>If someone repeatedly picks the same kind of starter, their taste probably hasn't advanced in years

You must be really smart, anon

>>27247053
Delphox is great though. Emboar is shit.

>>27254050
Any idea why Delphox is "hated" or thought to have "failed?" it's typing is one of the most interesting for any starter Pokemon in fucking AGES, and i thought its design was really nice and exhibited the sort of reservation that Pokemon really fucking needs right now. (looking at faggots like chesnaught and other digimon). Frankly Finnekin was the worst part about the line; it's head was oddly sized for its body and had a weirdly human remnant about it for a quad-ped to my eye.

As for retrospective, i get that Venusaur isn't well liked but I always liked it and still do. They could have done a different direction from fattening it up to bloated size but it works really well with the flavor of going grass/poison to chase the bloated thing. That and the design contiguity with the flower is nice. Blastoises cannons bother me more and more the older I get. Charizard is a classic but also looks a bit lamer and lamer as time passes. They abandoned the reptilian thing really hard with Charmeleon for some reason, and never really got it back with Charizard. I know he's a dragon but there's not a whole lot of salamander+ going on with him. Super generic. Venusaur is my vote for the best Genwun starter design.

Cyndaquil always bugged me because his design didn't really change at all throughout the line. Quilava is just cyndaquil scaled 200%, and Typhlosion is just Quilava standing up. No color scheme changes (like Wartortle or Charmeleon), no real crescendo at all. There's a weird amount of design thought that's just missing from Cyndaquil. Meganium feels like a crescendo just fine but i never understood what it was, a dinosaur line? The lack of texture on chikorita et. al's body; the lack of animalistic influence, the unclear design direction; it's like someone drew up a generic "Pokemon" shape, colored it green and stuck leaves and flowers on it. Feraligatr was a fine line but croconaw got weirdly fat and feraligatr retained that tubbiness for some reason...

>>27255615
Gen III was close to having an all-star cast, but torchic ruined it for me. The chicken's design was really odd; weird head-shape and all and fire/fighting was really lackluster typing for my tastes. (little did I know what the next fucking nineteen games had in store). Then Blaziken happens and it turns into a chicken-headed man complete with a hairdo wearing FLAME PANTS. Absolutely set into the trash. Shame too, fire is usually the type I was most excited about because grass is hardly more useful than something else and niche water types like Milotic are frequent. Not to mention fire is usually rare, and when there are fire types their design is fucking wat-tier like Magmar or Camerupt, or they have some horrible weakness like Slugma or Torkoal's abysmal speed stats. Alas.

Treecko and Grovyle are sweet but Sceptile is weirdly over-designed. The pustules on his back are odd, his fern tail is way too much, and he lost the thin/fast look of Grovyle. Sort of like Croconaw and Feraligatr, sceptile looks too large to be agile. too many things going on, too many colors adding yellow, too much irrelevant grass details that weren't grounded in the gecko theme like the enormous frond tail.

I like Mudkips line. The typing is interesting (for once), the design feels like a proper crescendo, it's animalistic and the color scheme isn't overblown, great move set, well detailed. Good shit.

>>27242723
Blaziken defeated Charizard in the anime

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>>27239794
>tfw you mostly pick water types
I know there's so many of them, but they just appeal. I'm not going Popplio though, I prefer the owl.

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So people tend to pick Fire types because its a rare type? I mean, i've got nothing against fire types but you could just slap some fire moves about here and there if need be, you make it seem like every and any is almost essential.

>>27245349
I do

>>27245349
Honestly, I only picked fire for Johto. Cyndaquil got me like none of the others did.