What went wrong

>>27167659
Nothing.

>>27167659
nothing like >>27167691 said
But when your parents ask that about you, it can be summed up as everything

>>27167659
>hey venusaur was pretty cool right? what if we made a similar creature, but instead of a flower, let's put a city park on his back!
>these kids are gonna love bidoof!
>lets make all the cool pokemon from gen 1 evolve into slightly different version of themselves!
>legendaries should be more epic, let's add lots of spikes and stripes and buttons!

>>27167659
They started designing fascinating and original Pokemon

Only birds are a starter, a weak gimmickmon, two cross gen evos and the mandatory early route bird.

>>27168113
The mandatory bird was great though

Most of them look like shit.
The starters and most ground types are pretty cool though

>>27167659
People like you were born

>>27168233
>most look like shit
electivire, starters, froslass, mamoswine, mismagius, honchcrow, dusknoir are all top 25 designs ever.

>>27167659
>Torterra
>Infernape
>Empoleon
>Staraptor
>Luxray
>Roserade
>Bastiodon
>Vespiquen
>Floatzel
>Cherrim's Sunshine forme
>East Sea Gastrodon
>Drifblim
>Mismagius
>Honchkrow
>Skuntank
>Bronzong
>Chatot
>Garchomp
>Hippowdon
>Drapion
>Toxicroak
>Abomasnow
>Weavile
>Magnezone
>Electivire
>Togekiss
>Yanmega
>Glaceon
>Gliscor
>Mamoswine
>Porygon-Z
>Gallade
>Rotom
Nothing at all. Definitely most underappreciated dex.
Doesn't help the first versions locked many of them to post game.

>>27168261
thats like your opinion man, luxray is rad tho

>>27168261

>Electivire
It's okay

>Starters
I said I liked them already

>Mamoswine
I said that I liked the ground types too

>Mismagius
Shit. Ruined Misdreavus

>Honchkrow
It's okay

>Dusknoir
Meh

That's my problem with the Gen IV pokémon. Very few are good while the rest is either okay,bad or horrible.

>>27168233
>starters
>Gastrodon
>Vespiquen
>Drapion
>Hippowdon
>Obama
>Magnezone
>Honchkrow
>Mismagius
>Porygon-Z
>Mamoswine
>Froslass
>Weavile
>Yanmega
>Togekiss
>Tangrowth
>Dusknoir
>Gliscor
>Rotom
>Heatran
>Regigigas
>Darkrai
>Shaymin
None of these are shit. The peoblem is most of the shit ones were super common early game and the only things you could find in D/P. Thank god for Platinum.

>>27169372
I also forgot to mention Bronzong and Toxicroak, which are other good designs this gen. I always tend to associate the latter with Gen V. Probably because I pair it up with Scrafty in my mind.

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>>27167659

Too many cross gen evos and legendaries. Barring that, it's a pretty great dex imo

>Great selection of starters, including BASED Torterra
>Best early route bird
>Best HM Slave
>Best pseudo legendary

>>27167659
I don't see anything out of order.
In fact I'm glad they added evolutions to older gen pokes

>>27167659
Too many legendaries and too many evolutions or pre-evolutions of previous gen mons.

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Literally nothing
Only one I dislike is gastrodon and it probably has the worst legendaries - except perhaps the lake trio.

4th gen happened and pokémon began his fall

>>27168098

Do you not know what a world turtle is?

>>27168098
>i don't know what world tortoises are
lovable and derpy, yes many including i love it
what's wrong with this honestly
>literally gen 3

>>27168359
>Shit. Ruined Misdreavus
looks exactly like it lmao

>>27167659
I keep forgetting the yanma line is a thing

>>27167659
>>27168098
>doesn't like Torterra
Opinion discarded

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Skorupi/Drapion should have been a second pseudo-family line.

Platinum was a good game. Diamond/Pearl are dated like hot garbage is rancid.

>>27167659

Half the fucking dex is made up of legendaries and pre-evos and evos of old Pokemon. And most of the new lines are either garbage shitmons like Kricktune, Cherrim, Carnivine, Wormadam and Lumineon or ouright hideous like Skuntank, Toxicroak, Hippopotas and Bastiodon.

>>27167659
>a lot of cross-gen evos (I like most of them)
>TONS of useless legends
>Most of the original lines are either edgy as fuck (Lucario, Staraptor, Luxray) or have shitty gimmicks (Vespiquen, Cherrim, Burmy)
>STRIPES AND SPIKES, LOL
>lots of reused body shapes (i.e. Bonsly, Budew, Happinny)
>Started Lucario Shilling
>SPACE PENIS DRAGON LOL

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>>27167659
How horryfying

>>27167659
Almost everything.
The starters are all shit, we have a lot of bad rehashes (luxray a shit LOL PACHIRISU), a fucking lot of legendaries (that are also shit), there are like 10 really new pokémon that are good.
And what most pisses me off: 1/3 of them are evos or pre evos that are really shit and unecessary. There are like 5 good ones and some of them are really dumb to be evolutions. Gliscor and Mamoswine, for example, are not bad designs, but being evolutions fucks them up. They should be new lines, and I'm glad they didn't repeat this error with Bouffalant and Alomomola.

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>>27171699

>>27171746
I actually like Cherri, but not only this mon is shit, but the cool form needs Sunny Day to be on, this means you almost never see the good Cherrim.

>>27171699

Shouldn't the obligatory fossils and pseudo be crossed out too?

>>27167659
everything.

>>27172248
Arguably the early electric type (mareep, manectric, blitzle) should be too.

>>27171699
You forgot to circle based rotom

>>27167659
>Best fossil pokemon
>Garchomp and Lucario
>Leafeon and Glaceon
>Neat starters
>Magnezone and Yanmega
>Interesting legendary Pokemon
Personally, I think nothing went wrong.