/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon General

Only ever played Blue Rescue Team, I was Machop/Machoke, partner was Squirtle/Wartortle.

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Saw this on Miiverse. Does this mean it'd be possible to mod starters soon, or was this done with Powersaves or something like that?

Also Totodile a cute

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I'm too lazy to make another account, sorry

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>>27087434
>didn't include the updated .zip
https://mega.nz/#!Pt9GQZgR!KWFSUTYSh3ylhXFpbjozzzuAcC2-GaFhNaOuq67q1RM

Now comes with .wads of the three Adventure Squad games! Patched by me to be region free, if you want to put it on a wii.

>>27088105
I forgot about that. If I make the next one I'll make sure it's there.

Is Wiiware's tower system supposed to be a prototype to the combo attacks in Super or something? They feel really weird to use.
>switch leaders from half health Poochyena to Electrike
>he jumps on Electrike's head immediately afterwards and forms a tower
It's better than the old Run Away system, at least

>>27088238
How do you switch leaders in that? Is it in a menu?

>>27088319
I'm using the GC controller, so I tap the C-Stick to switch leaders. For Classic Controllers, I'd assume it'd be the right analog stick. Dunno about any other controller's button combo, but I'll read through the control menus if you want me to.

>>27088390
>For Classic Controllers, I'd assume it'd be the right analog stick.
It's + if I remember correctly.

>>27088463
Yeah, just checked. C-Stick for GC, 1 for Nunchuck, + for Classic, and Start for the DS systems.
Everything else is pretty much the standard control scheme unless you're using the Nunchuck which is a bit weird at times.

>>27088525
Start on the DS? I'll probably use that then, since i'd think it controls like the other games that way

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Evolution happens in Wiiware right when you meet the requirements for it. It asks you for a prompt beforehand, and after evolving will then ask if you want to give it a nickname, though I'd assume that option doesn't show up if it already has one, like in Sky.
The IQ skill "しんかしない" (Don't Evolve) is the first in the IQ skill list and prevents the prompt from showing up at all when enabled.

>>27089336
Is that the one that's unchecked from the beginning? How big is the stat increase, if any? Is there an item like Gummis and Vitamins that boost stats?

>>27089374
Haven't exactly looked at Shinx's stats specifically before he evolved, but both of his offensive stats were in the 30s range at level 14, and now they're both 43. Can't say for certain how big the increase is, but it does exist.
Because Spinda's Cafe is no longer a thing, Gummis are far less reliable when it comes to stat boosting, since they only give a slight chance of boosting in dungeons, like when using them in Sky's dungeons. Still have no luck finding any stat boosters; only on the 5th dungeon. As of right now, everyone on my team but Luxio's not so great right now stat-wise.

I did find the TM for Wide Slash in the 5th dungeon though, it's called "すいへいぎり".

Still going through Wiiware PMD, just unlocked the chocolate dungeon, and used a password to get the shiny Hoppip. Her Belly stat is doubled, which is pretty nice.
Most of the problems I've been facing were with tower enemies, but throwing sticks and Geo Pebbles/Gravelerocks forces them to seperate and damages both of the tower enemies, making things a lot easier.

>>27091264
hey you reached the point i'm at, maybe i'll get back to play it again tomorrow

Playing through Blue Rescue team again, trying to put together a Kanto all stars team
So far got Marowak and Snorlax

So I am still finishing up Super's post-game, and I am not getting requests from Pokemon anymore despite having a few unconnected Pokemon left like Muk, Pawniard, and Ambipom. Are these mostly travelling Pokemon? The last two requests I have in my journal are for Zygarde and Cresselia at the moment.
>>27093903
Put in Exeggutor dude.

>>27093811
Swirlix best girl, Archen best boy, and Ampharos best sleeve.

>>27094938
S-sleeve?

>>27095108
Ampharos would be a better Guild master than Wigglytuff if we had his theme play more often while woolysheep styles over even Megaman.
But it doesn't so he's good for pretty much one thing.
Coitus.

>>27094938
>Waifu tier

Espurr
Mawile

>GAR tier

Buizel

>This nigga tier

Jirachi
Swirlix
Partner
Pancham

>Useless fuck tier

Dedenne
Sheldon
Ampharos
Archen

>The Man Who Was Cucked To Death tier

Krookodile
Beheeyem

>>27095375
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>>27095375
Anyone else notice how Krookodile basically just looking for a job is what made the events of the game take place?

>>27095375
>no sign of Bunnelby
Understandable.
>Archen
>Ampharos
>useless
Now THIS is bullshit. Both of them stopped the MC/partner from dying at least once.

>>27095455
I can name at least 2 instances where Ampharos getting lost very nearly cost his friends their lives.

Archen was just boring. At least Dedenne had a phone sown into her head, Archen had nothing. He's not even strong.

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>>27095375
>Ampharos
>useless

you shut your mouth

>>27095496
>He's not even strong.
You're right. He's not strong physically, but he is brave. He also has the "why does this have to happen to me" thing going on and that's always a fun trait to give a character.

Both of them were there when it mattered.

>>27095547
Meanwhile Mawile could solo every motherfucker on the planet with both her arms tied behind her mouth yet spends all day sitting around reading books.

And who isn't brave? This isn't Explorers of Sky, most everyone seemed ready to give their lives by the end.

You know, SMD is a rare example of a game whose postgame is much easier than the main story. Anyone agree?

>>27095496
>implying amp didn't do shit, unlike half the society

Bunnelby and Swirlix were the useless ones.

>>27095615
Do you mean just the epilogue? It depends on who you play as. I heard Fennekin has a tough time in Sand Dune, but Chespin has no problem.

On the whole, I don't think so. For me, it's not so much that one game's post-game was easy, but that Rescue Team's was actually difficult. All the other games get super boring but Rescue Team remains tough and I still haven't even beaten the post-game story.

>>27095615
Is you smoking crack? I died so many times in the first room of Mystery Jungle that I had to restart four times in a row. Haunters with Sucker Punch and Spite, Vileplumes with Hp for days and Stun Spore/Poison Powder, Venomoths that spam Silver Wind and so on. And Sand Dune with all that goddamn Rock Polish everywhere.

>>27095615
With the exception of Sacred Ruins. I'm still pretty bitter about how that place turned out

Is it possible to pause an expedition you are doing in meowth theater? Can they see the 3DS home screen? Putting 3ds in sleep mode?

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>Damn, I'm surrounded by enemies
>Let me just move next to this item for a better posit-

Making preparations for Mt. Faraway (gathering a Key or 2) will I be able to recruit Ho-oh on the first go?

Is SMD fun?

>>27097688
no, but get the friend bow

>>27097725
yeah

>>27095615
Fuck off, Mystery Jungle and the Sand place were painful.

>>27087513
powersaves, this is what happens when abnormal starters try to evolve
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VOybTespBSI

So if I use the water looplet to throw power up items through 2 partners, am I doing it right?

>>27098869
>Void Arceus and Void Celebi when.

>>27099604
next game, when a totally-not-Dark-Matter possesses both of them

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>>27100256
>totally-not-Dark-Matter
Are Bittercold rehashes going to be a series staple? Dialga being the final boss because he got corrupted due to time stopping was pretty unique compared to Gates and Super's crap

>>27101141
Super probably only did it because Gates did., I doubt it's gonna be a series thing.

Now I am done with SPMD's story and my life is empty once more. I don't know how they did it, but after 20 hours of "meh":ing, that ending and post-game broke down my defenses.

Bravo, Chunsoft, I know literally every reviewer on the planet hates your guts but please don't let the franchise end.

>>27101195
Super felt more or less like a homage to the previous games, the first half being like rescue team in that you mostly just hang around a village and save those in need, the second half being like explorers in that you join an elite society and go on expeditions, and the end is basically just bittercold again. Then it finally does its own thing for the far too short but oh so excellent post-game

>>27102215
Hopefully they don't listen to western reviewers.

>>27102215
Yeah, I saw it like that as well, but given the tagline "definitive PMD experience" I wasn't expecting anything else. The scenarios had similar structures but they were different enough in my eyes.
>please don't let this franchise end
My dad is Chunsoft, I'll talk it over with him.

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>>27102461
Sales have been tanking pretty hard. RT was around 7 mil, Explorers around 10 mil, then GTI dropped to 1 mil and it looks as if SMD isn't even going to beat that.

Now that the phone garbage is an unparalleled success we can always hope for a visual novel android exclusive.

>>27102465
He wouldn't happen to look like this, no?

>>27102658
Where are you getting those numbers? Super has already outsold Gates, and those DS game sales look horribly inflated.

One thing bothers me. Did anyone else notice how your partner's reaction was rather... Subdued in the Purification Cave? And didn't really act like him/herself? Meanwhile Mew was still acting like usual, I.E. exactly like your partner used to (MC even comments on this) before going back to the jungle.

Is your partner even the same person anymore? Being brought back from literal non-existence seems pretty far-fetched even by PMD standards.

>>27103021
>Being brought back from literal non-existence seems pretty far-fetched even by PMD standards.
The Explorers MC went through the same thing. I just assumed it was because it was a tiring ordeal since the partner was lying on the ground for the whole thing IIRC. I thought they pepped back up when they returned to HQ.

>>27103087
Just repeats the same phrase over and over again like an automaton. I've never seen a more underwhelming comeback, I can't even tell if s/he remembers his/her past life as Mew.

>>27103213
>Just repeats the same phrase over and over again like an automaton
But anon... Literally every NPC in every game does this. Not saying it isn't a problem, but it's (unfortunately) nothing new.

>>27103240
Maybe Nuzleaf hit the MC a little too hard on the head? This whole thing seems extremely fishy.

>>27099343
yes

>Darkrai's original plan was to paralyze the planet
>a few days afterwards, Treasure Town is stuck with everyone doing and saying the same thing every day, with time never flowing
>by defeating Darkrai you actually fulfilled his plan

>>27102658
And the 3DS, despite being the best selling console of this gen, is the worst selling portable Nintendo console if you exclude the Virtual Boy. On the other hand, the DS is one of the best selling videogame consoles ever. Actually, the best selling one if you count the 3DS. You could say the GBA is if you go by this logic, but GBA games aren't as easily accessible as DS games are.

>visual novel
Not going to happen, not by the "Mystery Dungeon" name at least.

>>27103518
>Super comes along
>Turns out life kept going for everyone except you and your partner

At least it's not as unnerving as Hydregion recognizing you.

Like what. You mean I'm seriously playing as the same character being transported from continent to continent?

>>27103598
Nah, he knows that it's just a videogame

>>27102761
Where are YOU getting THOSE numbers?

>>27103675
I asked you first but whatever. For Super:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-reports-revenue-decline-and-expects-wii-u/1100-6439250/

>In terms of key performers for the reported financial year, Nintendo highlighted Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer and Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon, which sold 3.4 million and 1.2 million units respectively on the 3DS.

I don't have anything for the DS games (since VGChartz a shit), but you seem to forget that Rescue Team is two games and Explorers is three. Also, they've been out for years (Rescue Team is 10 years old).

>>27105119
Dedenne lying on the bottom of the ocean I assume. Hard to swim when you have no arms.

>>27105145
Dedenne gets to take up space at the base.

>>27105145
If anything, Dedenne's most likely stuck tending to the base and making sure that Jirachi doesn't kill all of Lively Town in his sleep.

>>27105225
She can't handle him. Though I like how both scenarios end up with Dedenne dead.

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So who's your're Pokéwaifu?

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>>27105407

>>27105407
My partner.

>>27105629
God dammit anon, use spoiler tags

>>27105407
Best character ever. I got so mad at her betrayal that I nearly threw the 3DS against the wall, had me completely duped.

Weird how literally everybody else in Serene falls off the planet the instant you leave.

>Treasure Island Path
>enemy Nidoking are able to oneshot me because Double Kick deals 40 damage each
>enemy Manectric exist even though my Electrike still has 5 levels until evolving
Help

>>27105407
Explorers partner. That whole Manaphy segment was pretty weird though.

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>>27105713
>"Yes... Mr. Nuzleaf."

>>27105985
It's not cuckoldry if you both raise someone else's baby.

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>>27106061
Literally Ruse Cruise: the Game

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>>27105407
Super Partner (Feraligatr)
Well, I am the waifu in this case

>>27105985
The was pretty much saying we are couple and this is our addopted baby

What is the cutest main character/partner pair in super mystery dungeon?

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>>27106604
I played Totodile(partner) and he was the cutest thing. The model might be a tad bit weird but I loved it regarless.

As for the MC, I played Charmander. I though it was cute when he tried to calm the other down and explain things

>>27106604
Piplup and Riolu

>>27106604
inb4 Snivy/Fennekin

>>27106604
>Riolu/Eevee
except there's not Eevee, so I have to choose Pikachu

>>27106604
Riolu/Fennekin

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Welcome to the Wigglytuff Club, how tough are ya?

>>27107739
I beat Sacred Ruins with fucking Hitmonchan.

>>27107739
How tough am I? I got the Tight Belt legit.

>>27107739
I evolve all my starters

>>27107739
In Pokemon Red I left my Charmander in the PC for the whole of the run.

>>27107739
I wrote most of the guides in the OP

I remember Blue Rescue Team and Explorers of Time, such good games, and really introduced me to dungeon crawl type games. The stories are amazing and you actually feel for the pokemon characters.

Just bought a 2DS with OR, and will be buying this game soon to check it out. The nostalgia of going through 99 floors to get Lugia and Mewtwo makes me wanna get this.

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>>27107739
I beat Destiny Tower without using Drifblim

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>>27108672
me too

>>27108709
>smoochum
That's not as cool.

>>27109058
I dunno, you can't get much cooler than an Ice-type.

>>27107739
I beat your whole guild withouth Discharge

>>27105407
my partner, bidoof, grovyle

>>27105407
i dont have waifus

>>27108672
Why use Driflumb?

>>27111495
Drifblim has an overpowered ability that lets them attack twice provided they're not holding an item, and their Level 1 moveset includes Astonish, which has STAB and has a chance of flinching, and Minimize, raising Evasion to avoid getting killed.
Smoochum's also a good choice, since she has Forewarn, evading attacks sometimes, and has access to Powder Snow and Sweet Kiss.

Compared to those two, Poochyena's a really poor choice, starting with only Tackle and doesn't get much useful moves, and his stats don't make up for it.

>>27111495
PMD Drifblim's the most overpowered pokemon in series history, Unburden is god tier in pmd

>>27111495
Unburden is ridiculously broken in PMD

>>27109134
Yes you can.
All you need to do is kill yourself.
It actually works.

>Waifu Espurr
>She ruses you
>Waifu Mawile
>She ruses you
>Wafiu Mew
>She ruses you
>Waifu Partner
>She ruses you

What the fuck is wrong with all the women in this game

The Japanese just call this spin-off series Pokeden. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is such a mouthful, we need to make up a catchy name for it. Any suggestions?

>>27118337
Pokeden
Or, you know, PMD

>>27118337
Hold on, Pokeden? Not Pokedun?

>>27118337
PMD is just fine.

>>27118400
ポケダン, just one hiragana different. I think Den means Story, sort of how Mario RPG is Mario Story.

>>27118842
Yeah but why would it be den?

>>27118889
Because it rolls of the tongue

>>27118443
Looks hideous. But more importantly, the Mystery Dungeon subtitle makes it seems like just another spinoff series while Pokéden almost puts it on the same level as the main series.

Which it is, I mean that's where they revealed Lucario, it got its own anime series, you're not seeing that shit in Rangers.

>>27118925
The kana you posted reads as Pokedan, not Pokeden. It should then become Pokedun, because Dungeon's just spelt as Danjyon in Japan, and it just combined the first parts of Pokemon and Dungeon.
Team Pokepals (the default team name in Explorers)'s Japanese name is also Pokedans.

Either way, why does this matter to you, though?

>>27119145
It doesn't? I'm not the same guy

>>27119068
Rangers tries to be canon with the games, so you get Rangers specials in the main anime instead.

>Looks hideous.
I think it's good.

>But more importantly, the Mystery Dungeon subtitle makes it seems like just another spinoff series while Pokéden almost puts it on the same level as the main series.
Well, it is a spinoff. If anything it's MD that's its own series.
It's just that PMD has been as consistent as the main series since the first game.

>>27119145
>Team Pokepals (the default team name in Explorers)'s Japanese name is also Pokedans.
I had noticed it as well, but I wasn't sure if they were referencing that on purpose. If it is it's really a nice little thing.

>>27119145
The official japanese websites use "pokedun" though

>>27119303
It's MonHan and MonHun all over again.

>>27116388
You didn't waifu Swirlix, Kangaskhan, or Miltank.
Or stick to the boys like you're supposed to.

>>27120871
I want Buizel to become unreasonably angry at me
I also want the constant GO and leak threads to stop fucking flooding /vp/.

My smeargle has:
-transform
-lock on
-perish song

What should 4th slot be?

>>27123536
Something useful probably.

>>27123809
Like what.
>inb4 "an attack"
It's a bad joke to be vague.

>>27117875
why do they all have noses

>>27124056
Well, you probably should put an attack on him, so he can properly defend himself. If you don't want vague answers you should give us more info. Are you running smeargle solo, or do you have teammates? What game is this for, so we know what moves are available?
Perish song is normal type right? So it shouldn't affect ghosts. It also hits everyone including the leader and teamates doesn't it? You should probably consider switching that out for something less suicidal, unless you wanted it for a specific purpose. The suicidal aspect might not be an issue, though, if you have a teamate with heal bell or something similar.
I'm fond of health draining moves myself, and always put them on my team members if I can, so you could try one of those. Being able to attack and heal at the same time is always nice.
You could try a move that can cause a status effect like paralysis or sleep.
There really isn't really a specific right answer that can be given, so you'll probably only really get vague answers.

Who is the best Explorers partner and why is it Treecko

>that ghost Pikachu
Guess we found our dindu nuffin character for the next game.
>"I-I just wanted everyone to love me..."

>>27123536
Teleport is goat
Or heat wave for easy leveling

>>27124678
>>"I-I just wanted everyone to love me..."
>implying that doesn't fit the bear more
"People in Alola are scared of Kiteruguma to the point of having warning signs about it. It is really strong and can break anytthing in two. It likes to hug its trainers but is strong. Raising one puts your life in danger."

>>27124465
Playing PSMD.
I have transform on it, so I thought it was clear I'm just using it to have fun. Either that or something that's really OP like lock on paired with perish song. And yes, I only play it on teams with a refresher. I was thinking of maybe just putting on Sheer Cold once I got the accuracy up on the move.
>>27124695
Teleport sounds cool. Would work best when playing solo dungeons though. Which does come around. I can always switch it out too.

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>>27124465
Nah, Perish Song only affects enemies in PMD. However, I assume Lock-On is in there to counteract the OHKO level base accuracy it has.

Been doing a lot of missions after beating EoS's story, but I still haven't unlocked Star Cave or the prompts to fight the legendary beasts. Am I doing something wrong?

>>27125952
As long as you've got Secret Rank and the required dungeons unlocked (or cleared Bidoof's Wish in Jirachi's case), you're on the right track.

>>27126518
Did all the special episodes and got to Master 3 star, so I think I'm good for all but one of the beasts.
Do the job notices to unlock these dungeons only show up in Spinda's Cafe? Been checking every day but it's usually just a mon asking for an escort or to fetch an item for them.

>>27126811
Yeah, you only get them from Spinda's Café. If you really get tired of waiting you can always generate the missions with the WM generator, but otherwise it's completely random.

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>"I'M FUCKIN' INVINCIBLE!"

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Super evolution was a mistake

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Gameplay:
Super>>Explorers>Gates=Rescue Team

Story:
Gates>>Explorers>Super>Rescue Team

Discuss

>>27128407
Haha, holy shit.

>>27128422
I'd say Gates is better than RT in the gameplay department. Even though Gates was kinda simple, RT was a little rough around the edges since Explorers is such an improvement by comparison. And I don't really agree with the story ranking (I don't really have a solid ranking myself, just that RT is the least best), but it's a respectable ranking nonetheless.

You did good, anon.

>>27128569
Thinking about it, I'd agree with you on the Gates and RT gameplay thing. The move selection on the DS games, taking a lot longer to get the team mates you want from the friend areas as opposed to a simple menu, only having a bag space of 20 and the assness of having pokemon with only a chance of recruiting were pretty big drawbacks.

Gates's gameplay took a kick to the face in terms of content, but what was there was still pretty smooth (aside from only one mission at a time, that was inexcusable), and paradise was fun working with.

>>27128338
AWD is literally the best, only because Weavile

I want Archen to bend over for me.

How exactly does transformation work in this game? Items can transform into sentient Pokemon, and vice versa. Not to mention the protagonist in the games is a human turned Pokemon. Are all items Pokemon, and can Pokemon become human under the right conditions?

>>27130048
Plot.
And Ditto can transform and ruse people.
Don't make it more complicated than that.

How much replayability does Super have? It seems like there wouldn't be much unless you restarted and did a second playthrough, because the missions aren't randomized this time around.

Also why is the starter roster so shit, where's the Normal types

You get to design a Pokémon levelups, moves and abilities specifically for level 1 dungeon. It can be an already existing Pokémon, one from the currently announced gen7 Pokémon or an hypothetical one. How would you do it?

>>27132356
unburden

fury swipes
minimize
powerup punch
ominous wind

Should I only play Super after finishing Sky? I hear it's five times as harder.

>>27133500
You don't have to play Sky first. The switch between the two is gonna be a bit jarring no matter which one you play first.

>>27133561
I'm playing Sky right now, actually. I'd be more prepared I guess, maybe playing both at the same time wouldn't be a good idea.

>>27133589
Yeah, it might be weird going back and forth because you almost have to be in two different mindsets when playing them. Super really isn't too difficult, but playing it like it's Sky will probably make the experience more challenging than it has to be (I should know, it's what I did on my first playthrough).

>>27132417
Unburden can now fail, multihit moves stop after missing once, Power Up Punch now only has a random chance to increase both attack and special attack, and Ominous Wind is nerfed in accuracy.

>>27118390
>>27118400
>>27118842
they say pokedan, not den

I went through the soundtrack and noticed that they had named the track for Mystery Jungle as Purifying Cave and vice versa. Shrugged it off at first but then I started thinking.

Maybe they screwed up? Why does a regular stroll through the forest have this bombastic epic final dungeon song while the biggest climax in the game has this sort of somber, quiet music? I think the programmers misread the compser's notes and switched them up.

>>27128422
Gameplay:
Super>Irrelevant because the gameplay wasn't all that

Story:
Explorers>Super>Gateway>Rescue Team

Gates' story is only good because all the highlights come early on. After the amazing twist it's just boredom while Super does the opposite, which despite its flaws leads to a far more reasonable buildup and conclusion. I mean Gates basically just goes "What, save the world? Yeah I guess we mentioned that at the start" and make up some shit about bittercold. Pokemon turning to stone/world paralysis/world breaking apart had been a looming threat for a long time in the other games

>>27106680
I play Totodile main and Charmander partner, we'd be like the perfect pair!

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>>27139349
I guess we could have some fun together

>>27124901
>perish song still affects entire floor
jesus christ

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So now that the MC is not you since he has a backstory which is clearly not yours, what do you think he looked like?

>>27139907
>So now that the MC is not you since he has a backstory which is clearly not yours

the hell you talking about? also spoiler that shit

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Underrated OTP

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How will this mon work in the next pmd?

>>27139227
I thought Gates had the best story since it was the only one to make a group of characters that I cared about. Explorers's cast was weak outside of the episodes and while I like the school kids in Super, they end up vanishing from the story entirely at roughly a third of the way in.

>>27141927
Super focuses on quality instead of quantity, no character in Gates even comes close to the complexity of your partner, espurr etc. And they achieved it during the story's natural progression without giving them their own dedicated episodes.

So has anyone else done the Chatot quest pm Sunny Spot Hill?

Wigglytuff is female? THE Wigglytuff? Bull-fucking-shit, someone explain this to me

>>27141979
The partner may have easily been the most developed character in the entire series, but it came at the expense of his likeability. Besides, a lot of the development felt a bit off aside from learning to not be so afraid of ghosts. Revelations come right out of the blue The whole accepting Dark Matter thing was by far the worst offender of this and I felt it was more the story adapting to the partner rather than the partner adapting to the story.

As petty as it seems, Super's entire story fell apart on the premise that I just never liked the partner's personality. Being the sole main character, the story lives and dies by him, and for me, it died. Still, the stretch between Escaping the voidlands up to the prehistoric ruins was excellent for the partner.

>>27141993
Presumably a translation error. I think another guild member refers him a male.

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>>27142089
Maybe Chatot knows something we don't? nudge nudge wink wink

>>27142076
I didn't like the partner too much either, but the ending sequence and post-game is easily the hypest I've ever felt playing these games because it felt like you were actually struggling to accomplish something you wanted to accomplish, instead of just being tugged along.

Am I making myself clear? As in, you don't even need to do the post-game, but you do it anyway because you're that damn invested in what the hell's going on and you want to save your partner.

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>>27139907
>Player character came from ancient times

>Fought Dark Matter, and presumably other pokemon

I say he looked like this

>>27142211
I'm not disagreeing with that, the parts from Voidlands to finish were pretty damn hype, but come Primeval forest, it went by way too fast for a lot of it so sink in, with a lot of exposition dumps. The ending scene especially was horrendous for this, and when the story ended on such a spectacular shit note, it really soured my views on Super's story.

Super's highs were the highest of the entire series, but its lows were the lowest. Compare that to Explorers, which was just a flat decent from start to finish, picking up when the dead future comes in.

>>27142251
Read a fanfiction like that once

>>27142305
>Ancient soldiers fighting pokemon with armour and swords.
That's actually kind of cool in a really cheesy way.

>>27142287
I think keeping all the exposition for the end scene worked in it's favor, if they had gradually built up you-know-who as a bigger character then it would've been obvious who it was. It felt like a passing remark which came back to haunt you, like when they talk about Lucario in the first game which amounts to exactly nothing.

SMD's ending is shocking, unpredictable and surprisingly cruel. I mean, the credits roll over the main character collapsed on the ground in complete despair. It's so brilliant, you can't take issue with that, you just can't.

And I doubt you can get lower than Gates post-twist. The writer realized that, oh shit, we're 90% through the game and have yet to establish a villain and you get this long weird exposition dump by the fireplace. Whatever Super did, there were still stakes, characters you like were basically stuck in hell, the villains are about to get away with everything and you wanted to win and save the day. In Gates I couldn't care less because it never felt like anybody was ever in any real danger.

>>27142392
The main problem with an exposition dump ending is that it never gave me a chance to really feel anything other than 'huh?'

The shocking, unpredictable and surprisingly cruel thing about Super's ending was how spectacularly it failed for me. The twists were either poorly used, poorly explained, or just straight up bullshit. Mew who? The partner might as well have been a resurrected turnip from Saturm and it'd have the same effect since we knew absolutely nothing about Mew. By the logic of the partner disappearing, shouldn't everyone also disappear to since negativity's part of everyone? Might have missed something, but the explanation was really weak. Also, the amnesia twist was inexcusably horrible. We had a pretty great one explaining how Nuzleaf gave you amnesia so you'd trust him and break the barrier, but nope, that didn't happen! Instead you CHOSE to get amnesia because...remembering your past mistakes somehow makes you make the same mistakes again. It's so damn counter logic.

The ending with the player character crying also showed me why the ending just works better with the player vanishing. I liked that they tried something different, but, assuming that the player character is a stand-in for the player, having him act in a way that's vastly different to how I'd feel was really jarring (Super's story would have worked much better if the PC was its own character instead of a player-stand in). Especially in the epilogue where in the PC's mind, he was risking Dark Matter's return. That probably makes him the most villainous character in the game aside from Dark Matter.

>>27142624
You sound like an angry guy who hates a lot of things. Why do you play these games?

>>27142648
Super's gameplay. Just finished the main story a week ago. The story itself was a huge letdown compared to Gates, but the gameplay's easily the best in the series so far. Having a blast now that the story's done, and I can't say that for the other PMDs.

>>27137182
yeah we figured that out later

>>27139227
>Gateway
what

>>27141993
>its pink so it must be a girl who would have thought there are other games in this series

>>27142392
>this long weird exposition dump by the fireplace
there was nothing wrong with it though
and the bittercold gets hinted at the first time you visit the place

>>27143658
>Paying for Gates

>>27143969
>paying for Gateway
That's way worse.

>>27143969
>he didn't use CFW to have all 4 handheld PMDs on his 3DS
You could even backup your saves to replay the games without losing your old data

>>27144270
>tfw nobody bothered reverse engineering twl_firm

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>tfw I only did Super's postgame for the 100% completion
I think I'm dead inside, and Super's ending killed me.

>>27144270
>not physically owning all of them AND having a CFW
I actually regret not stealing EoD and buying RRT when I had the chance.

>>27144489
As much as I love these games, once the story is over I quit. It's just jarring to see everyone treat you like just anybody.

>>27144973
As shittily as Super ended, I have to admit that it was the first PMD I had fun playing to completion. In any other game in the series I would've done the same and stopped after all the story was over.

>>27145529
I agree with you there. I think the recruitment and the motivation/absent pokemon system gave a satisfying sense of progression and a good incentive to use a variety of pokemon respectively. The old recruitment system was pretty garbage and while the IQ system is good in theory, it takes way too long to get just one pokemon's IQ up.

Super is easily the best PMD for me, in spite of the story being a failure, in spite of its great moments here and there.

>>27142251
>the ancient language that the partner can read is actually Latin.

>>27146629
But then wouldn't the MC be able to read it too?

Probably a dumb question, but in Sky's Adventure Log, the first point lists Pokemon that joined your team. Does that mean total Pokemon, or does it only count different species? Kinda lost count on who's on my team, but I know there's some doubles.

>>27147369
This was a plothole I never got.

Would have also helped the player character have a bit more of a presence. I think having the partner be the main character was actually a good idea since it's easier to characterise a character who's not a player stand-in, but the player character has less impact than half of the side cast. It's bizarre to see a character with the most screen time having such little impact in the story

>>27148464
What plothole? Mew's the legendary, the MC was literally just a regular-ass human. They probably couldn't even communicate and he sure as hell didn't have any special abilities. That's why she made him into a Pokémon, so he wouldn't suck so hard.

>>27148567
Figured that if there was ancient text, both of them could read it since they were both from ancient times.

>>27148464
Add that to the pile.
Yeah, I agree. Being the Super MC sucked. Even as a bland self-insert, everything they did was so against what I would've done that they might as well have been an entirely different character. The only time I ever felt in sync with them was telling the partner that they were annoying.

>>27148599
Reminder that we will never find out about the Pokemon world's past, and we will never get closure on human involvement in said past.

>>27149213
>we will never know about what the Explorers MC was like in the future besides being best friends with Grovyle
SE5 added quite a bit of background to the future, yet we barely know a thing about MC despite being one of the only humans that lived in the Pokemon world

>>27149213
There's literally no reason why Xerneas can't tell you. Guess he's just a dick then.

>>27149207
Same here. I think Super's story as a whole would have been better if they made the player character their own character with distinct personality and characteristics instead of trying to be a player stand-in while also acting in a particular way. Ends up getting the worst of both worlds.

In hind sight, I think the exposition dump scene at Primeval Forest was a big missed opportunity. We could have actually seen what happened back there since Celebi can time travel instead of just being told about it. Would have also made the whole Resurrection stuff actually matter

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>>27149343
>Pink Celebi in Explorers
>kawaii as fuck and tsundere for Grovy
>her time-travel powers are well-used and her short-distance teleportation ability is explained by the fact that she's skipping through time a la King Crimson

>Celebi in Super
>shows up to just teleport you to an entirely different island and spout exposition, something literally any other Psychic-type can do
Super Celebi was a waste. It just felt like the game going "Hey, here's Celebi! Remember them from that one good game? You do? ...Okay."

>>27149763
What other psychic types can time travel?

>>27149885
Did Super's Celebi do any time travel?

>>27150060
He went back in time to see what happened in the past.

>>27149763
The trio of Mew Celebi and Jirachi feels a lot more fitting than having Manaphy in the middle.

>>27150060
Yes? To the past in order to spout the exposition. Do you not remember what that scene was about? Celebi went to the past, saw the human and Mew fighting Dark Matter, and saw them fail . Then told them about it.

>>27150187
>>27150202
Oh yeah. It's been months since I finished super. I completely forgot why Celebi was even there.

>>27150288
Good chance for them to show that this timeline has a Celebi too. Considering that every legendary in the whole franchise got involved in the final battle his absence would've been too obvious.

>>27148106
Total times pokemon have joined.

Goddamn, this OST. They really outdid themselves, I listen to it every day.

Post your top 5 favorite songs from SPMD

1. Mystery Jungle
2. Fire island Volcano
3. Calm Craggy Area
4. Sheer Mountain Range
5. Baram Town

>>27150948
something about them looks...off. Like i can't help but think they draw porn

>>27150749
Needs more Noe Town

>1351 items in EoS
>many of them are items that can only be gotten through Swap Shop trades and are useless to most members, while others are from locked areas or Zero Isle exclusive, like the Tight Belt
>storage only holds 1000 items max
Geting 100% in this game's going to take a while.

>>27150749
1. Lush Forest
2. Fire Island Volcano
3. Sahra Town
4. Road to Primeval Forest
5. Reverse Mountain

>In the United States copyright filings for the games, the titles of the games are translated twice. The first set of names are literal translations: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Keep Going! Blazing Adventure Squad, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Let's Go! Stormy Adventure Squad, and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Go For It! Light Adventure Squad. The second set of names are written in the same way as Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky with the element written last: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Forward! Adventurers of Flame, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Let's Go! Adventurers of Storm, and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Aspire! Adventurers of Light.
>The Ancient Treasure collection in Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon, which features Looplets named after previous games in the series, translates the ほのおのリングル Blazing Looplet, あらしのリングル Stormy Looplet, and ひかりのリングル Light Looplet as the Wildfire Looplet, Tempest Looplet, and Radiance Looplet, respectively.

>>27150749
1. Tree of Life: Trunk
2. Fire Island Volcano
3. Sheer Mountain Range
4. Tree of Life: Roots
5. Lush Forest

>>27150749
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyRfc58SYFA
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5jpdiv1718
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS3c5TsOGfk
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo5IRUjNaEA
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-wnimqMoYc
5b :^). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV00mBEaAvo

hey guys soundcloud guy here
working on a collab with someone on a PSMD piece
https://instaud.io/sTQ

and considering saying that this one's finished
https://soundcloud.com/lotias/040-northern-desert-final

thoughts?

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>>27157677

>>27158596
Things got messed up, here's what was supposed to be there:

I like them, anon. That second one does indeed sound finished, but I don't "know" music so I can't really say anything else other than "I like it a lot."

>>27157677
I really like the first one; wish it was longer.

Second feels a little empty.

>>27159354
the first one's a wip so it's gonna be longer
on the second one 'feeling empty,' i don't hear it
plus if i add more instruments it just gets worse

>>27150749
I almost never had the sound turned on.

>tfw feel like I'm the only one left who prefers Explorers' gameplay

>>27159604
You're not alone

>>27157677
ND is my favorite song from the game, I dig it. Adding instruments would ruin it but you can still let it pick up in intensity during the second half, for reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqiNVWJtg8c

>>27159583
That's how I played Rescue Team, man did the GBA had an awful soundchip. SMD's something else though.

>>27159604
I'm a masochist, I just like whichever has me dying more often. Fuck those dungeons which pairs you up with like 5 overpowered allies though, what I really is want a game where they drop the partner altogether like in the post-game

>>27159604
I like IQ and killing shit with the standard A attack and not being expected to use items all the time.

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Considering how popular this shit is on pixiv, you'd think it would've sold better.

Should I keep chronically checking every continent out there? I'm only at Chapter 13 right now.

>>27150749
1. Reverse Mountain
2. Tree of Life: Trunk
3. Final Boss Phase 2
4. Time to Set Out
5. Mystery Jungle


>>27160054
Just check them whenever you're there for a mission. You shouldn't be missing anything.

>>27160054
No, but the village you are in changes after ever mission so you'll want to talk to everyone. There's some funny shit to be seen.

>watchog's "psychic abilities"
top fucking kek
I'm only a couple hours in to PSMD but I think it has made me laugh more than any other game I have played before. Please tell me the entire game is this funny.

>>27150749
1. Prehistoric Ruins
2. Mystery Jungle
3. Tree of Life: Roots
4. Reverse Mountain
5. Revelation Mountain

>>27162644
As you get closer to the end and the game starts getting more serious the funny starts trailing off a little but it doesn't go away.

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I want to get some Mystery dungeon.

Skyfags say to get Sky. SMD is allegedly alright. Is this true?

Should I play Sky before SMD? I have never played any MD game.

>>27163449
Sky is treated like the second coming of Christ for some reason.

Get Super, it's got much better gameplay.

>>27163449
Honestly you can flip a coin, you can't go wrong with either. Sky is easily emulated but I liked Super more. You don't have to play one before the other. They're all at least good, you should play the one you don't play after you finish whichever one you choose.

>>27163449
Get super, mate. It's fantastic.

>>27163449
Best gameplay in the series, but the worst story. Gates is the reverse of this. Sky is in the middle. Rescue Team isn't bad, but Sky's better in every meaningful way.

The only mystery dungeon game I've played was Red Rescue Team, where do I start if I wan't a new one to play?

>>27163449
Sky has a slightly better story.
Super surpasses it in everything else.

>>27163606
Super

>>27163449
Sky, then Super. Super fixes absolutely everything wrong with Sky, from being able to cheese bosses with status effects to items being bloat.

The stories are equally good for different reasons, but Sky's might come off as a bit lacking if you don't play that first.

>>27163449
Play Blue Rescue Team first.
Then play Explorers of Sky.
Then play Super.

>>27163932
I don't think Rescue Team holds up that well, I really shouldn't recommend it to someone when the other two options are basically the same but much better.

>>27163972
I think it's still good enough to be recommended, despite not having Sky's improvements. It's not going to take them much to play it as well, particularly if they don't complete the postgame.

>>27164053
But why? What's there to see or do? The best part of the story returns in Sky, sort of wish I had started there so the ending would've got me even harder.

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>>27141624
It will be as predictable as they always are.

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>>27164182
Fucker blindsided me in Gates.

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>>27164221
>Narrator of the game replaced by a lying impostor while you're naming your character and shows you a fake cutscene

I shat ten bricks.

>>27164114
>What's there to see or do?
Mainly the postgame. The story is also different from Explorers/GtI/Super and I hope the next game doesn't try to be Explorers again.

>The best part of the story returns in Sky
The fugitives part? Not really.

>sort of wish I had started there so the ending would've got me even harder
Oh, so you mean the ending. Well it's executed better in Explorers, I can see where you're coming with it, but I'd say it still has some problems. Like Dialga being able to do that, or that they wait for a few months.
Even then, it would still be personal preference. Ignoring the common points all games have, Explorers still has a lot of new stuff, particularly if you compare it to RT rather than GtI/Super.
Again, both GtI and Super are nice and the "let's copy explorers!" thing doesn't really feel wrong in them, but I wish they would do something different for the next game.

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>>27164251
Also, this wonderfully pleasant scene

Darkrai is in Pokken. Clearly this is of no concern to us.

>game has Sceptile and not Groovyle

JUST

>>27164281
I replayed Gates a few times and that scene still surprises the fuck out of me every time. Brutal af

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>>27164697
>Still no fightan weasel

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>THIS close to recruiting everything
>too burned out to continue
help

>>27166787
>Satanic Vileplume
>Celederp
>Jirachi sees dead people

Were they even tying?

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>>27167136
No

>>27164053
Blue Rescue Team is refreshingly simple and doesn't have slight lag when moving tiles when there are a lot of enemies on the floor. And it doesn't have a shitton of black screens when you go where you need to go (travelling through the guild EVERY DAY is a pain in the ass). It just feels more polished, if more simple.

>>27166787
man, you do not like psychic types, do you?

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Not to get autistic but there's got to be at least one Lapras for every harbor, so clearly this isn't the same one as from EoS.

>>27163649
>Super surpasses it in everything else.
5 damage normal attack.

>>27166787
That's at least 3 Wish Cave runs right there, and have fun with purity forest

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>>27166787
>>27168135
If that's Red/Blue Rescue Team, I feel you. All of those Pokemon can only be found in/obtained by 99F dungeons. Purity Forest for Celebi, Wish Cave for Jirachi (and you don't get to bring a Wish Stone if you're recruiting), and Joyous Tower for Chansey and all the others (you can only get Eevee in there which you need for Espeon). On top of that, your level gets reset which makes those dungeons even more of a pain in the ass to clear/recruit in.

I recruited Jirachi and Celebi before I got Mew but I gave up on Joyous Tower because you have to go in SO MANY TIMES to get everything.

>>27169431
I really miss this from the DS games. Trying to decide whether to save PP with a weak, but usable basic attack or whether to use a move to help make sure an enemy dies was always one of the more interesting choices to make when going through dungeons.

>>27169628
Dungeons are shorter and elixirs more frequent so PP isn't really an issue.

Survival is though and even if normal attacks did 15 damage you'd be a complete arse using that ever.

>>27170109
Normal attacks should be at least somewhat usable. I'm not asking for 300+ damage mind you, i'm asking for something reasonable.

>>27087434
Is something up with that blue and sky emulator? I couldn't export the zip and now I can't download anything.

>>27171015
Is Mega bugging out?

>>27171076
The download went fine, but when I tried to export it it said the file or destination is corrupted. I get the same message when I try to download anything else.

>>27171113
Sounds like a problem on your end, anybody else want to try downloading it? I'd do it if i weren't the uploader of it.

>>27171113
I just tried it an everything went fine. Don't know where your problem could be coming from.

>>27095427
remember kids, stay unemployed or you will petrify god.

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American, could I get a rescue?

>>27171353
>can't get in because i haven't been in floor 9
Crap.

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>>27157677
What program are you using to make these? I always loved Northern Desert, and I have heard many renditions, but yours is the only one that seems to have kept what are basically the same sounds as the original, minus that Explorers-patented funky synth bass. I have to say that you did a great job.
As for the piano piece, I'm not sure what you're going for, but it seems like a nice melody. Final Fantasy-esque, or maybe a relaxing town theme in Pokemon.
Are you planning on making another in the future?

>>27156436
Fucking hell I never realized how good the horn is in the opening to the Tree of Life Roots.

>>27171353
I'm on my way over.

>>27172349
If you fail I can help

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>>27171353
>>27172349
Done. Cape of Wonders is definitely one of the higher level dungeons in the game, and if I recall right, a bunch of missions want you to go there too. You're on the last floor, though.

>>27172533
Thanks, but it says the reviver mail is for someone else, am I doing something wrong?

>>27172665
Did you try turning it off and back on again?

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>>27172665
Maybe I fucked up, then. I had done another rescue on Miiverse that someone else had got to first, so I didn't bother sending the Revive Mail, so maybe I sent that one here by accident. Does this one work?

>>27173024
That one works, thanks!

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>>27173024
Here's the thank-you mail (didn't attach an item, sorry)

>>27100256
For a second I thought you were talking about dark matter from.

>>27174588
From kirby*

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>>27106604
my test ended up with totodile, wich of course i like, and then choosed the prevo of fav aura pkmn
when it was time to choose a team name i just couldnt think any other thing than blue team

Halo reference intented

>>27106604

I went Charmander/Chikorita, and if nothing else, Chikorita's expressions are absolutely adorable.

I've heard Pikachu actually makes for a very good partner character-wise, though I'm still a little leery on how an entire species can match a personality.

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>>27106604
Chespin is mandatory, since it's the cutest starter

Which mystery dungeon games will let me play as cubone?

>>27180408
....nice

>>27181714
Blue/Red, but even then you can play as anyone after the credits roll. The starter you used before that though gets a nice looking house modeled after their head.
You can also do custom starters in Sky to play as anyone.

>>27181793
custom starters are the way to go, if only they had animations

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I can NOT stop listening to this song. Like, goddamn it, it has to be the catchiest theme I've ever heard.

Dananana NA na na NA na na da na na na na

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>... So I says, "Well I didn't destroy my whole world to come here and get questioned by a blue fucking fairy." The nerve of these ungrateful little shits

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