What went wrong

Absolutely nothing.
Best Pokédex until Unova came along.

>>27035941
Nothing?

Too many are only available postgame. I still sort of believe that Slugma is a Gen III Pokemon.

>>27035961
>I still sort of believe that Slugma is a Gen III Pokemon.
So you're a massive retard that can't accept reality?

Reply to this if your team never had a member of the Mareep line on it.

>>27035941
Too few mons, most of which aren't even available until postgame (Slugma, Houndoor, and, ifI'm not mistaken, Larvitar)

>>27035941
>What went wrong
unsolicited baby/pre-evolutions

>>27035941
Can someone check how many Gen II pokemon are seen in a playthrough, assuming it ends with Lance( so no Kanto) and all Jotho trainers are fought?

>>27035941
Some of the pokemon being available post Johto League was incredibly bad of a decision.

Some awesome designs but filled with shitmon

I literally played pokemon Silver 24/7 when it came out as a kid. Never saw a slugma until I played gen 3

>>27035961
This is the only bad thing about the gen2 dex, and even then it's more of an issue with the games than it is the dex itself.

The starters.

The rest is fine, and Umbreon, Espeon, Gligar and Smeargle made me enjoy Silver. <3

The contraceptive

>>27035941

Most of them had either a shit stat distriution or shit movepool. Like Gligar couldn't learn a STAB ground or flying move unless you had Pokemon Stadium 2. What kind of dumbass designed Gligar's gen 2 moveset?

>>27035941
Your mother didn't swallow you.

Babymons

Imagine that if instead of the 6 babymon we got, we instead got two new lines of 3 stage Pokemon. Or evolutions for otherwise useless Pokemon (Stantler, Girafarig)

>>27035955
this

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>>27035941
Everything in red, basically.

>>27036533
>Crobat
Shit taste confirmed. Crobat is a 10/10 design as well as boss as fuck in the meta.

>>27036533
Fuck you, Murkrow is cool as shit.

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>>27035966
Accept it? I'm listening to it right now

>>27036553
Meta is retarded, as is Crobat. Get out of here with that weak ass shit, Davos.

>>27036565
Given your opinion differs from mine... you are wrong.

When it's good, it's amazing.Typhlosion, Crobat, Lanturn, Ampharos, Umbreon, Foretress, Dunsparce, Scizor, Kingdra, and Quagsire are some of the absolute best mons and absolute staples of nearly every team.

But the amount of shitmons is overwhelming and mostly just creates busywork in evolving them. Baby pokemon, ugh.

>>27036060
All can be found pre-E4 minus Houndour line, Slugma line, Larvitar line, Sneasel, Misdreavus, and Murkrow. (Ignoring Legendaries because I think the opposite of box legend is the only one you have to wait until Kanto to get)
LMK if I forgot any but I don't think I did.

>>27035941
Wow there's a lot more shit mon's than I thought

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>>27035955
this x 100

>>27036533
>Dissing chinchou
Kys

>>27036533
Shuckle? Really? You don't like shuckle? Gtfo.

>>27036533
Chinchou is infinitely better than the shapeless boring fish that is Lanturn.

>>27036474
The fact that Gamefreak needed to put in 7 babymon (don't forget Tyroge) means that Gamefreak probably didn't have two Ampharos-quality three-stage lines in them at the time.

Too many babies, too many single stagers.

Chinchou's biggest issue is that it didn't evolve into a proper angler fish and instead became Lanturn.

>>27036598
>kys
And you're telling others to do it?

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>>27035955
THIS

>>27036533
There's so much wrong with your choices I got bored listing them and just decided to call you a faggot instead.

>>27036634
Good.
Ampharos ruined Mareep and Flaaffy.

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>>27035955
>unova pokedex
>good

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>>27036533
>Murkrow
>crobat
here's your (you)

>>27036565
You know it, buddy

>>27036533
hey buddy
eat a peter

>>27035941

Gen II was basically just the sloppy, boring leftovers of all the Pokemon that weren't included in Gen I. There are a few good standouts (Tyranitar, Sudowoodo, Heracross, Octillery), but most of the dex was pretty boring.

Girafarig not evolving into a Dark/Psychic Giraffe with each side being a fully formed head.

Seriously, Giraffes are cool, visually-distinct, inherently-recognizable animals and all we got from Pokemon was Girafarig. Even then they had a decent concept with it that just didn't go anywhere.

>>27036533

>Liking Lanturn, but not Chinchou.

What the actual fuck.

>>27036723
>>27036714
>>27036698
>>27036628
>>27036610
>>27036598
This salt. Ya'll niggas got shit taste.

What went wrong?

Shit BabyMon
Worse starters than Gen 1 (and worst in series to date)
Everything is a round fucking blob with eyes.
Too many single stage shit mon.

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>>27036676
Black/White 2 is actually my favorite game

Get rid of:
Cleffa
Igglybuff
Smoochum
Elekid
Magby

Give evolutions to:
Stantler
Girafarig
Gligar
Quilfish
Yanma

That solves both the baby pokemon and the too many single-stage pokemon problems without changing the number of pokemon.

>>27036702
Can you read?

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I can think of a few.

A chunk weren't available til you beat Johto and burn through Kanto like >>27035985 said, including stuff like Murkrow and Misdreavus or appeared lategame by the 8th gym like Phanpy, Teddiursa, Skarmory, Gligar, Swinub, Delibird.

Most evolutions to previous gen mons required you to trade with an item you got pretty much after the E4.

Babymons were made but not available in the wild, you could find a Magmar in burned tower but not a Magby. It may as well have not existed.

I think what is sort of worse though is that a good chunk of mons didn't exactly have good stats to use either compared to how it was in gen 1, especially most that didn't evolve. e.g. Qwilfish, Murkrow, Sudowoodo, Aipom, Corsola, Aipom, Yanma, Delibird, Dunsparce, Smeargle, etc.
You couldn't really take those so far without it seeming off. At least in gen 1 you had mons like Tauros, Magmar, Electabuzz, Pinsir, Snorlax, Aerodactyl, the hitmons and so on which were pretty useful all round.

Not to mention there were a few gimmickmons like Wobbufett, Shuckle, Smeargle, Unown and Delibird.


TL;DR: We got new mons, but only a handful were there for us early on like Hoppip, Wooper, Mareep, Heracross and early route bugs, they're seen as more popular between people because they were available pretty early to players without bullshit.

So much forgettable cuckmon:
>Hoothoot, Noctowl
>Ledyba, Ledian
>Spinarak, Ariados
>Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff
>Natu, Xatu
>Bellossom
>Marrill, Azumarill
>Politoed
>Hoppip, Jumpluff, Skiploom
>Sunkern, Sunflora (weakest mons ever)
>Yanma
>Wooper, Quagsire
>Slowking
>Unown (pointless)
>Wobbuffet (no stab)
>Dunsparce (a fucking dead fish)
>Qwilfish
>Slugma, Magcargo
>Corsola
>Remoraid
>Delibird (literally the cuck pokemon)
>Porygon-2 (worthless)
>Smeargle (ditto 2.0)
>Smoochum (WTF)
>Elekid, Magby

Babymons were a mistake.

Though Johto introduced some of my favourite mons so I don't hate it that much.

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>>27036929
>Porygon-2 (worthless)
You fucked up, underage. Porygon2 is actually pretty good.

>>27036942
It's not bait when most people outside this contrarian board dislike it too.

>>27036851
>Mienshao
>ayy lmao
>Stouland
>bad

2/10 made me reply.

>>27036929
>Quagsire
>Forgettable

Pick one

>>27036953
>Source: my ass

>>27036851
To think this level of shit taste actually exists.

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Design wise? Nothing. Half of them are literally Gen 1 Pokémon that couldn't fit into the original games, so if you're going to somehow bitch about a non-existent quality drop, then fuck off. Some of the best Pokémon (Tyranitar, Espeon, Mareep, Wooper) are from Gen 2.

In-Game usability wise? It's... Debatable. See, Gen 2 was not even considered a Generation by Game Freak. People meme about Gen 6.5, but Gold & Silver was literally Gen 1.5, which is why there was so many Kanto Pokémon prevalent still.

MOST of the Gen 2 Pokémon DO still show up before the Elite 4. The best ones are even pretty early on too. If you skipped Wooper and Mareep, then it's on you, pal.

You also have to remember that G/S had a huge Post-Game, an entire region (>inb4 "b-but Kanto was too empty!") with the most content of any Pokémon game until Emerald. So when you get to Kanto and still find new Pokémon? That's because you have 8 more Badges, and a final boss to get through, and they fully expected players to consider switching out Pokémon for new ones.

This was an honest mistake on the Developers part, because honestly, most people are not going to switch out their Team Members by this point, especially when wild Pokémon are so low leveled.

>>27036595
I'm fairly sure Larvitar, Sneasel and Misdreavus can be found before E4, depending on the version, but I may be wrong. I seem to remember Sneasel in Ice Path?

>>27037026
In HGSS, only Houndour/Houndoom can't be found before the E4 because of the Safari Zone and Primo eggs(for Slugma).

>>27036942
>literally a remake of gen1 pokedex
It couldn't be less original even if it wanted. Even if it has a couple good mons there, it is the gen that gave us the genies and the ponies.

>>27037045
I kind of like how Safari Zone in HG/SS at least gave you the chance to find gen 2 mons that were found much later on at an earlier convenience, but it didn't really fix it 100% for me.

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>>27037067
>literally a remake of gen1 pokedex
It couldn't be less original even if it wanted.

Nice meme. These are only the ones that are "ripoffs" and a few of these are even debatable. Roughly 19 out of 150+ Pokemon is nothing to whine about.

>Even if it has a couple good mons there, it is the gen that gave us the genies and the ponies.
>letting a few bad Pokemon spoil everything for you

Wew lad.

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>>27036533
>crobat
>murkrow
Worst taste of the century

>>27037184
See, I don't even think those are ripoffs

Woobat is incredibly different. It'd be like comparing Litten to Meowth.

The only true rip-offs there are Sawk/Throw IMO. They were the only ones that were so painfully similar and uninspired that I rolled my eyes at. But I am sure some expert could probably explain that they're based on different fighting styles or something.

Just because two Pokémon are loosely based on the same thing, doesn't mean one is a rip off. Hoopa isn't a Tornadus rip off, now is he?

Gen 5 added so many Pokémon, that statistically, most of your least favorite Pokémon are going to be Gen 5. This also however means that statistically, many Gen 5 Pokémon will also be in your favorable side.

just best gen

>>27035955
Exquisite taste

>>27037184
>19
There is 19 only on your pic anon, you need to count their evos and pre too which would give around 20 more. And there are still some that you are missing, like Chansey/Audino, Drillbur/Sandshrew, Persian/Liepard.
Ghastly line counterpart is Reuniclus, not litwick.

>>27037255
>Gen 5 added so many Pokémon, that statistically, most of your least favorite Pokémon are going to be Gen 5. This also however means that statistically, many Gen 5 Pokémon will also be in your favorable side.
The problem is that only the former is true for gen 5, instead of the usual dozen or two that I like, in gen 5 I only like 5 pokemons, it is not even enough to fill a party.

>>Just because two Pokémon are loosely based on the same thing, doesn't mean one is a rip off.
It's a rip off when one of them is based on the other, not when both are based on the same thing.

>>27036748

>I dislike Brussels sprouts

>I think brussel sprouts are okay
>me too I think they alright
>me 3

>you're all salty

???

>>27035974
Magneton is true electric johto bro

>>27035974
Crystal player here, Mareep was never available to me ;_;

>>27038150
My condolences

>>27035974
Never understood why Mareep was on everybody's team, honestly. Never cared for it.

>>27036929
>Slowking
>Porygon2
>forgettable

>>27035941
Too many shitmons.

There are like five Pokemon even worth using from this gen before the postgame, which is why anybody who plays through GSC/HGSS usually ends up with the same plain vanilla team.

>>27036533
Horrible taste.

>>27038904
>caught early on and can be useful to the end unlike most other mons
>electric which is a nice type and isn't too common unless you wait for something like Magnemite or Chinchou by the 4th gym
>nice bulk and special attack especially as Ampharos
>actual gen 2 mon in a gen 2 game
>pretty cute design
I mean its not too tough to see, but you take what you can get. Can't even get something like a Jolteon from your Eevee you get from Bill unless you earn a thunderstone from Bills gramps in Kanto much like most other evolution stones in gen 2, in HG/SS its a bit easier to get but you still need to grind/rely on RNG for it.