VGC US Nationals Day 2

>>26944327
What time does vgc start

>>26944369
both streams have it right now

that lunatone

>>26944431
that most unlucky lunatone

>>26944431
I mied the first 2 games, what are its other 2 moves?

>>26944504
>mied
the fuck, missed*

>>26944504
Hi didn't get to use them

>>26944504
Here's the set:

Lunatone @ ???
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: ???
- Icy Wind
- ???
- ???
- ???

>>26944431
Fucking cuck won even though its too dumb to understand what Lunatone does. These people wont even get above the 1200s in Pokemon Showdown desu.

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>literally no one has used a Lunatone in the last 2 months
Damn if he gets top 8 he'll be famous

>>26944569
It also used Earth Power

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which one do you think has the most potential for vgc17?

>>26944733
Hopefully the whole terrain ability thing will be good

>>26944785
yeah, I hope they make an ability for each terrain

or even better, the four guardians having different terrain abilities

>>26944869
I just learned there are two different "official" seeming, commented-on streams.

>boosted smeargle getting rekt
Good

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Bravest bird strikes again. Hurry up Bruxish

>>26945052
The Pokemon stream does VGC for half the day and TCG for the other half.

>>26944869

The OPPO GANGMAN STYLE

>>26945065
Thanks.

>Smogon shirt
Nintendo's going to fucking waterboard him

>>26945229
Nintendo/The Pokemon Company should just destroy them

>>26945229
Who had the Smogon shirt?

Which stream are you guys using? The /pokemonvgc just shows a clock for me now. The others are people talking

>>26945297
I'm watching VGC, next match should beginn soonish.

>both streams have one asian and one white guy commenting

>that interview with the autistic kid in his pokemon shirt

Straight outta /vp/

When will VGC not be mirror matches

>>26945402
It was better yesterday, most of the time anyways.
> That one guy with Venusaur and friggin' non-mega Mewtwo

>>26944327
>box legendaries
barf

>>26945347
>pokken stream has a nigger talking

>>26945402
2017

>>26945410
LO/sash mewtwo is way better than any mega mewtwo anyway

nice crits Josh

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>"competitive" Pokemon

>All these legendaries

What's the point?

>>26945429
Might be. Although I imagine that Mega X' Low Kick would do nicely against primals, at least Kyogre

why dont they just use wobbuffet. EZ wins

ResidentSleeper P Groudon ResidentSleeper P Kyogre ResidentSleeper Megamom ResidentSleeper Megamence ResidentSleeper genies ResidentSleeper

>>26945508
>genies
>s

What's the difference between VGC and other championship?

Can anybody explain why Chase didn't mega his Kangashkhan on turn 1? No ghosts around, so scrappy wouldn't be of use anyway.

>>26945501
Wobbuffet is taunt bait and a poor choice in VGC in general

>>26945539
It's official

>>26945543
Inner Focus

>>26945539
it's the official format and the only one that gets support from TPCi

My God, was Pokemon ever this competitive? I wouldn't last 3 turns against these dudes.

>>26945539
other championship?

>>26945568
It gets that? Wow, now I feel silly. Thanks

>>26945567
>>26945576
So one makes you the real champion and the other just makes you into a fake champion?

Why even hold the two then

Watching the VGC on twitch is comfy af
Wish there wasn't so much downtime between matches though.

>>26945595
Two?

Are you talking about the streams?

One's for the video game and the other's for the TCG.

clutchogre

That Bronzong was interesting: Trick Room, Gravity, Gyro Ball and Hypnosis

>>26945598
They have to wait all matches in a sigle swiss round to end to stream the next match.

>>26945595
Both streams are of the same tournament. They just have 3 matches to choose from on their main stage.

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>when you forget Smeargle got the defense boosts

>>26945598
K dumbass
there is an empty place here, maybe a 4th starter.

>>26945706
Get fucked nigger

>>26945683
I see. So each stream is one battle and they ignore some other people because fuck them

Thanks!

>>26945727
what, it's impossible to stream every match and player

Who is this semen demon doing the interview?

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What the fuck

>the guy with a cat shirt and cat ears
for what purpose

>>26945841
nyaa~

>>26945841
>winks at camera ;)

is this nigga a furry

>>26945841
Can I fuck it?

>>26945863
I don't think that would be a good idea. It might have rabies.

>>26945863
a cat is fine too

>>26945858
>plays pokemon
Most likely yes

What do you need to be an official pokemon judge?

>>26945795
A former Miss America contestant who doesn't play competitive Pokemon

I'm praying for you weavile my boy

How do you do that pen spin thing

Why do they both get notebooks? Is it for calcs?

>>26946052
Calcs and making notes like speed, moves, and boosts

>>26946045
read up on the technique, don't move your thumb, flip it with middle finger, drop the pen for a few hours practicing, done

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>Mega Gengar with Hidden Power Water

>letting Kanga get burned AGAIN
Why is this guy so fucking retarded

>>26946161
it's common on electrics too

>>26946173
He tried to make a hard read, it's understandable since I would have expected him to predict Kang to switch

Conan is fucking tiny, jesus

>smogon shirt guy wins

>>26946286
>he doesn't get interviewed

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>Psych Up Kyogre

>this bullshit hax

WHAT THE FUCK TRIPLE PROTECT

NOT LIKE THIS

Jesus christ that triple protect was bullshit.

kyogre guy looks mad

I don't use smogon much but one thing I've learnt from playing singles is to not get too focused on your boosts

that kyogre should've switched out a long time ago, the weather war is more important than a few boosts

>>26946472
>>26946476
>bullshit
>an actual mechanic from the game
stay mad :^)

>check it out
>chat disabled
>progamer headsets
>turnbased game
lmaoing

>triple protect
>hypnosis hit twice
Outplayed

>Greedy with Psych Up boost
>Triple Protect
>3x Hypnosis hit
wow.

Conan is a qt =3

OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED

>>26946489
Yeah, he got greedy. The other guy instead got lucky with the triple protect

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>>26944327
>Legendary Pokemon are allowed
>Mythical Pokemon with BST's of 600 are banned

>>26946489
Switching out would have been riskier, Ice Beam is 100% accurate and guaranteed the KO on Groudon with the boosts. He played the odds and just got retarded unlucky.

>>26946520
TRIPLE PROTECT
R
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P
L
E

P
R
O
T
E
C
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>>26946498
>implying gamefreak is beyond reproach

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>>26946507
Hypnosis hit 3 times

>>26946538
It's not about stats, it's because they're events

>>26946538
Mythical pokemons are not allowed because of their powers but because they are only available with events so not everyone can obtain them legitimately (even though everyone hack their pokemons).

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>>26946538
More like:
>Legendaries with event ability are allowed
>Mythical with 600 BST are banned

>>26946573
Nah I'm sure people legitimately reset 10,000 times for a perfect 31 IV spread Groudon.

>>26946542
He should've spored the bronzong

>1 in 1 thousand chance
Luck is kind of a skill too.

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>this team is really paying off
Except you'd be 2-2 without that surge of crazy luck

>>26946574
>pokemon with mythical-exclusive move is allowed
>the mythical-exclusve mon is banned

>>26944733
>Electric Terrain prevents Sleep
rip in peace, Smeargle

>Whimsicott
Based

oh neat a Kyurem Gravity team

>>26946655
RIP Kyurem

>>26946635
Yea that seems bullshit to me. Especially since most global link tourneys have dark void banned.

>>26946678
No PGL tourney has ever banned Dark Void in gen 6

So these Pokémon are all legit right? :^)

>>26946759
Of course. ;^)

This fucking guy

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>all these references to "killing" and death" in the post-game interviews

If there's even the slightest hint of autism in these interviews I hit that mute button immediately

What's wrong with his voice, /vp/?

>>26946555
Except Deoxys

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>um, actually I only have 2 megas
>(actually has 3 megas like Cybertron said)

>>26947032
benzos to squelch any issues from the spergin, know that voice anywhere

>I'm going to not attack the SD Groudon

What did he mean by this?

>>26947354
PRO PLAYS
R
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P
L
A
Y
S

>>26947354
Trying to predict protect

>>26947354
He meant that is happy with the new Stats screen in Gen VII

That was a very nice match.

Can't imagine how these guys lost 2. They seem pretty skilled.

WHOA!

Didn't see that coming!

>requiring conversation between autistic-ass commentators and even more autistic-ass VGC players
Literally who thought the interview portion was necessary?

>older woman's favourite Pokemon is Aggron
Why did I find this funny

too bad my man bopper lost, but he did really was outplayed.
any fun teams still running?

I'm watching the tcg as I have just started playing online.

So much better than the actual games, like holy fuck it's the same Pokemon all the time.

>>26947806
I think the guy with Mewtwo and Venusaur is in top cut

when does top cut start?

>>26947817
I can't keep up with the tcg anymore. What the hell happened? I know I haven't played since gen 3, but I didn't expect it to change that drastically.

where are the matches reeeeee

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left or right

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>Frozen

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>>26948173
This. What the fuck is going on

>>26948247
right of course. anybody knows who's that girl?
also, as an yveltalfag, remove xerneas

>>26948247
Middle

>>26948247
I want to meet the Xerneas girl, fall in love with her and then marry her

>>26948173
>>26948260
It's already over.

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>>26948312

alright it's back

Why do they allow two legendaries? Was last year only one legend only?

>>26948495
Last year didn't have any

>>26948495
VGC rules change once every year. Last year no legendaries were allowed. This year 2 per team allowed.

>>26948507
>>26948515
I quit for a long time, but I remember there was a VGC where they allowed one legendary per team around when ORAS came out. I may have remembered wrong

>>26948547
You did. The last time these legendaries were allowed was back in 2010.
Genies and heatran and so on were allowed in 2015, 2012, and 2013.
2014 was kalos dex only.

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I ADAPTED NIGGA

What round is next? How many are left?

>>26948723
Currently doing top 12, then top 4 is tomorrow

So is Mega Ray S tier in VGC like all the smogtards claimed?

>>26948853
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/vgc-2016-viability-rankings.3558929/

>>26948853
Not really. Ray stays in normal form most of the time.

>>26948878
Yeah I noticed but many people were fear mongering about Mega Ray being in VGC.


Time to repeal the AG ban maybe?

>>26948897
Only retards who don't play doubles claimed Ray would dominate VGC16

>>26948853
It's really good, but quite Xernas or Groudon, or not even Kyogre level. It's much less threatening than in singles. The people who were claiming it would be broken weren't vgc players most likely.
Also since there are other megas that one would rather use most of the time like Kanga, Mence or Gengar, Rayquaza often is used without megaevolving

Mewtwo is a meme, guys.

RIP team Mewtwo and Venusaur

I think that's the last of any unique teams left

>>26948897
No. Singles is a vastly different meta than doubles.

In singles ray just has to come in on something that can't do much to it, get a free dragon dance, and press dragon ascent/extremespeed to win.

In doubles, ray doesn't have any spread moves (besides the shitty earthquake) so it can only attack one thing at a time. Protect also makes it so if the ray attacks the wrong target, it leaves it open to be attacked by the other enemy.

One of the big reasons to use it in vgc16 is for weather control, like letting kyogre get off water spouts in the sun, or for random hidden power waters.

>>26948988
Bad prediction in the last match. Shame, it was a cool team

Who's /grant/ here?

>>26949132
He seems autistic

>>26949132
I hate him. Fuck him.
And fuck Unreality too.

>>26949132
I prefered chicken-chan

Cringe as fuck interview desu

>>26949162
Unreality is alright.

>>26949148
>>26949162
>>26949170

Well, fuck you guys too.

>Believe in your pokemon, just use the top 6.
Thanks.

>>26949162
>Unreality
Who?

>>26949225
If you are Unreality, fuck you again.

>>26949220
No, fuck him.

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>aaron cybertron zheng here xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
when will this meme end

Who /leonard/ here?

>>26949371
He has a stupid name, going for the normal looking guy

>>26949386
He could have put a fucking shirt on at least

>pokemon is a skill-based game

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>>26949386
He's literally the only one that doesn't look/act like he has the highest grade autism known to man.

>let's make these super powerful signature moves but give them trolly non-perfect accuracy
Everything about primals were a mistake

>your dad will never organize tcg tournaments so you can play with others

Why live?

>>26949371
Leonard is based. I like his damage calcs and EV optimizations. A shame that he lost.

Oh shit there's a Suicune left

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any of you guys gonna do pic related when the top teams come out?

>>26949646
watch the NB blogs section, that's where it'll be posted

>thunder in the sun

absolute mad man

>suicune ice beaming the kyogre
for what purpose

>>26949598
He was awesome. I want to be that kind of dad one day

>>26949810

Trying to freeze it so it couldn't attack the Rayquaza, I think.

>>26949832
You can't freeze things in the sun.

So Ray is pretty much a air lock + extreme speed bot in this meta?

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>>26945229

>>26949886
not at all

Anything cool happen since the Triple Protecting Groudon? Been at work, heard a guy was using Mewtwo and Venusaur, what was their team?

>>26949935
mewtwo and venusaur guy's out

not much else exciting, though there's an HP ice groudon on stream right now

Why is special Groudon so bad?

>rng

>>26949646
How is groundoun better than mfug in doubles?

>>26949949
because precipice blades is an amazing move and it also works in the rain

eruption does not, and earth power is weak

>speed ties
>dude with Suicune loses
rip

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>they doubted based grant

Grant haters btfo

>yfw Grant wins the natty

>>26949980
salamence is basically mega fug lite, and then you can also use another legendary as well

>>26949993
>gets crit
>gets speed tie
>b-based grant

>>26949980
Groudon is just as powerful but can control weather, is bulky as fuck and has ridiculous spread attacks

>>26949980
see >>26948995

>>26944869
>uh yeah we totally both bred for the same pokemon with the same natures and ivs and shiny

So, I was only half looking, did he seriously forget what type his Hidden Power was, or did he just not have any other attacking moves except for Thunderbolt? The latter, right?

>>26950033
Latter, obviously

>>26950033
the latter

standard thundy is protect, tbolt, twave, and either taunt or HP water/ice

HP water is used on teams that have a ray or kyogre, so you can switch it in and donk groudons

>>26950018
Nature of the game :^)

>>26949980
groudon is just as strong as ray, a little slower, but can hit both opponents and doesn't lose to xerneas. also can completely negate kyogre if played correctly.
ray is strong, but has only single target attacks, is weak to xerneas, and fast but not that fast. pairs up well with kyogre to fuck groudon, but most of the time you'd rather use a different mega so you don't mega it.
still quite good, just not as great as smogonfags seem to think.

>>26950032
Verlis stop

Verlis it's not worth it

>>26950046
>>26950047
Alright, thought so.

>>26948691
>>26948714
it's time

thanks smeargle

I just want king autismo Alan to lose. Guy is too sperg on camera interview

Why does everyone bring plushies to the stream? I get it being a lucky charm thing, but why ALWAYS plushies?

>>26950329
there isn't much other pokemon merch that's easy to get a hold of and is visible

>literally getting swept by Crobat + Gengar
How do you fuck up this bad

>>26950329
Not everyone can be Colin Heier with their Mega bracelet.

>>26950377
Terrible leads

>>26950377
> He taunt baited my smergle round 1
Guess I'm leading smergle!

>what could be considered his prime
Why the fuck would you consider any year someone's Pokemon prime?
Age doesn't matter AT ALL in playing pokemon

>>26950329
>>26950383
Eh, fair enough. It just seems like everyone brings at least one nowadays.

>>26950309
Whelp, I feel for you, dude.

>>26950377
My question is why did he Xerneas when he had Groudon. Bringing it out on 2 poison was borderline retarded

The viewers count on twitch is at a new low this year, what's going on? Is the currect VGC too cancerous or something? The US nationals usually get decent viewers.

>>26950416
Who looks to be the oldest player we've seen. Most don't look over 25.

>>26950442
This year's VGC rules are uninteresting. 2 Legends is just weather war switches. I don't blame the low numbers.

>>26950442
It's been a lot better than last year, IMO. Seems people just lost interest. Yesterday it barely broke 2000.

>>26950432
My guess is that he wanted to bait Alan into doubling into it before it sets up and with two poisons its an easy target, so protecting would give him a free turn. But Alan saw through this and didnt fall for it.

>>26950377
>implying crobat gengar isn't a powerful lead
he still got overly rekt, but it's a pretty good anti big6 lead
>>26950432
I don't think it would have made much of a difference, Kyogre Ray in the back win against either as long as he got rid of mence.

>>26950442
That's more to do with it being on a separate channel rather than the main Pokemon channel

Even Pokken has more viewers right now because of that

>>26950032
That image is bait. One of the salamence was a ditto.

>>26950442
because the matches are pretty uninteresting for new viewers. much like last year, seeing the same mons all the time is boring, even the novelty of legendary pokemon washes out pretty fast.
the only interesting thing to me is that most top players got btfo early

How does a top 4 player not keep track of his own Tailwind turns?

>>26950670
Nervousness maybe.

Great Grand Finals for Pokken. Suicune Master is a beast.

>>26950670
Because being top whatever doesn't mean jack like always. Man can't count

>>26950709
I'll watch that instead of more groudon vs groudon

>Suicune won pokken
I hate it and Chandelure so much
good games though, very convincing

Is there any major difference between Junior and Master divisions in the TCG besides age brackets? Like, is the deck meta any different?

Is tanktop Chad still in the vcg or did he lose?

Going to Nationals tomorrow and beat the winner.

watching all these smeargle and their dead inside gen 6 animation is suffering

>>26950442
Doubles are cancer + shitty rules = no one cares

>>26950897
><> J
Not surprised shitters cannot adapt or bother to do actual mindgames and plays.

>>26950897
>Doubles are cancer
I sure do love playing 30+min hazard games. It's so good, anon.

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>>26950951
>>26950897
>there will never be a triples or rotations vgc
rotations is fucking great
it's like a weird mishmash of singles and doubles, and relies on making crazy predictions every single turn

>playing through time

Why don't people run stall and just win by having more HP when the time runs out?

>>26950846
He is still in. He'll play the sperg with the RayOgre.

>>26951025
Fucking hell, this is terrible. VGC is pure cancer.

>>26951030
>8 minutes of nothing on all battles
No

>40yo man baby crying over a victory in a children game in front of kids
>hillary schill as commentator
>disgusting smogon shirts

these vgc nats are brazil 2016 tier cringe

>>26951030
>Toxic
>Protect
>Heal move
>coverage/STAB
with a heal item. Do this for a whole team. Sounds annoying/boring.

>>26950976
>Set up a sweeper
>Rotate it out until lategame
There's your format.

>>26950951
Are you seriously bashing singles? Because then you should probably stop playing Pokemon all together.

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>>26951030
Where were you when anon created a new metagame?

>>26951030
Because stall isn't as effective in doubles as it is in singles.

>>26951049
>>26951053
Are you playing to win or to have fun?

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>autismo winning through time
He'll do just fine in UFC

Aaron is showing maximum power levels.
Cringey aaron

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>>26951077
Singles aren't even the recognized format.

>>26951090
>Are you playing to win or to have fun?
Silly anon, winning IS fun :>)

>>26951077
>pokémon is meta only

Ingame singles are fine. When you go competitive, Doubles are a lot less boring.

this is cute grill

>>26951030
because you'd lose almost all battles

Is the Dream Ball faggot there as commentator?
Gross.

>>26951128
Go away, Furlis.

>>26951128
commentating is what all the old washed up players go do

>>26951144
And random youtubers, apparently.

They DO tend to be a lot less spergy.

>>26950913
Like you? Doubles are braindead

>>26951107
And your point is...?

>>26951077
Just you wait until they announce a doubles mode for SM, where you get the Rock Doggy in addition to your starter.

>>26951178
>can't even explain why because has no actual arguments
there goes that (You) ;^)

>>26951077
colosseum is one of the best and most fun pokemon games. also claiming doubles are cancer and saying singles isn't is retarded. they are both shit metas

>tfw asked around if bronzong would be a good choice for a trick room team when the new meta began and people talked shit about it

>>26951582
>asking shitters

>>26951200
>because has no actual arguments
Neither do you. :D

>>26951757
There are infinite EVs distrubution combinations, dual cores, more attack varities, less stall trash and hyper offensive buttons and so on unlike with muh smogon. You perfectly know it by yourself, otherwise you wouldn't be here baiting like a retard.

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So why the fuck is Ray Rizzo a commentator now?
>Blatantly cheat in Worlds 2014
>get called out on stream
>Judges let the match continue anyway
>Online reputation is only being a cheater, people talk about it for the rest of that season
>Now he comes back to get paid to commentate

Does The Pokemon Company International think this isn't bad publicity at all?

>>26953940
At least he's better than
>will it connect
>it will pick up the KO
>it WILL connect
>and it will pick up the KO on Groudon

>>26950722
>>26950709
>Hardest hitting zoner in the game
>Give him the most HP/defense in the game

Great job Namco.

>>26953940
>people talk about it for the rest of that season
only autists do, most people don't care and the top circlejerk still defends him.
Also they are desperate to make better streams, and since the format is shit they have to put people that knows about the game to make it better and easier for newcommers. I mean, if the options are Poketubers and a 3 times world champion, there is really no contest.
At least this year they got Cybertron which can comment on the teams and the plays and explain what the fuck is going on instead of having somebody just reading the screen and pointing out which pokemon fainted in an overly exagerated demeanor.
Speaking of the stream, as a vgc fag didn't check out the pokken stream, was it good?

>>26953940
verlis I...

Is there any sort of chat stream for this autism?

>>26951107
Battlespot Singles is the most played format on cart. VGC never gets close to it.

Are they only playing TCG right now?

Next VGC could be Terrain Wars if Tapu Koko is anything to go by. Maybe even evolite Charjabug on every team.

And i'd still take that over this shit.

I don't really care about competitive, but I like watching these tournaments.

>>26957444
yeah, VGC isn't on for a while I don't think

>>26957486
For terrains to have the same impact as weather, they're really going to need to distribute some new abilities to abuse them like a Chlorophyll/Swift Swim equivalent. I think it will happen

>>26957588
Maybe something like
> Rest
> Switch in Tapu Koko next turn for instant wake-up

Does electric terrain work like this or does it only prevent falling asleep in the first place?

>>26957603
I'm pretty sure Rest just fails, the same way it fails when an Insomnia uses it. Though, new gen means mechanics can change.

>>26957603
It works like that, yes.

>>26957654
That's not what I meant. You use Rest without electric terrain being active. Then the next turn you activate it via switching in Tapukoko. --> Mon wakes up due to terrain being there.

If it works like that you could also counter being spored by just switching in the next turn, would be nice.

>>26957685
Dont forget the terrain last 5 turns when Tapu koko is sent in.
Good against Dark Void or Spore in opponent's team and it's one-time gimmick for your team because how fast the double is.

>>26957727
Yeah, it's a big "Fuck you" to Smeargle and Amoongus.

>>26957685
I can't find much about the exact mechanics but someone did claim it won't cure sleep like that. I'm tempted to try it ingame myself

Terrains only work on grounded pokemon. If you want to abuse them to a decent degree you're opening yourself up to Landorus/Garchomp/Excadrill sweeps.

>>26957745
If you use Worry Seed in a sleeping pokemon, it will wake up instantly.
I used that for a small gimmick in Free Battle Spot doubles.

>>26957745
>>26957762
Just tried it with electric terrain, and it doesn't wake them up, only prevents it

>>26957814
That's a shame. Any other ideas how to abuse terrain?

>>26957846
discharge my shit up feat. sonichu and friends

also grassy terrain halves ground type damage, at least eq, but it ends healing every grounded mon on the field

What time is the VGC final today?

/thread

>>26958159
All depends on how quickly TCG finishes I think

>>26958159
Official schedule here:
http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/nationals/2016/video-game-schedule/

>Senior finals is two children

>>26958285
Seniors used to be the highest age division, then they decided that having 14 year olds play with 28 year olds was weird or some shit like that. Now it's something like juniors (9 and younger), seniors (10 to 16) and, the new group, Masters as everything older.

>my brother made my team
lmao

>Brother made his team
>Doesn't know how to make his own team
HACK

did vgc finals happen already? Just got home

>>26960518
just juniors, doing seniors now and then the good stuff,

>>26958285
>children's division finals is two children
what a shock

The fuck is he doing with his arms

>weavile
>hitmontop
>togekiss
This will be interesting

Thread's about to die

>>26960346
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